Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Raveonpraghga


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User:Raveonpraghga

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets

--Alonso 07:07, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
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Since the last two months there have been several heated discussions in both Monterrey and Guadalajara articles as some users claim that one city is more important than the other. It seems they were especially concerned with the title Second city or "second most important city of Mexico". User:Raveonpraghga, who claims to be Roberto B. Maya from Guadalajara, had participated in the Talk:Second city discussion. He has a history of violating Etiquette both here and in the Spanish wikipedia (es:Usuario:Raveonpraghga). I have been insulted by him on several occasions, and so has User:Hseldon10. He vandalized my Spanish wiki User page once (we had a similar long argument at the es:Guadalajara Talk page.
 * Evidence

He has insisted on providing undocumented changes and preposterous claims in the Guadalajara, Jalisco and Second city articles (like proposing a "flag" for Guadalajara, even though Mexican municipalities do not have flags but only coats of arms). After a long, long discussion, and when we had finally reached an consensus on Talk:Second city (in spite of this lack of etiquette), in which we agreed to state the (proven) facts about the importance of the two aforementioned cities, he suddenly changed his mind and said he didn't want to participate in the discussion anymore. A couple of days later, a "new" user (User:Regiabeauty)shows up making the same ridiculous arguments and reopening the debate once again.

IP address 68.229.63.236 first signed as Regiabeauty as shown here. (Regia is a nickname for the residents of Monterey; that is, this user is pretending to be from Monterrey, and pretending to be a girl). Then, he actually created the account User:Regiabeauty to continue the discussion pretending to be an "external observer" that happens to make the same preposterous and unhistorical claims Raveonpraghga was making.

By clicking on 68.229.63.236 contibutions, you can clearly see that this anonymous IP address first introduced himself as Roberto Maya (and then Robert Mayan, since he was, presumably, using an automatic translator) here. Keep in mind that Raveonpraghga's real name (according to his User Page) is Roberto B. Maya. Then 68.229.63.236 edited Raveonpraghga's User page adding personal information about himself. Finally, and more obviously, 68.229.63.236 had signed explicitly as Raveonpraghga and here.

IP 68.229.63.236 happens to sign as Raveonpraghga at the Spanish Wiki as shown here. On one occasion I had asked es:Raveonpraghga to stop his repeated ad hominem attacks and to provide reliable sources to his preposterous claims. It was IP 68.229.63.236 who responded to my petition at my talkpage in the Catalan Wikipedia (of which I am an administrator) and signed as, you guessed it right, Raveonpraghga.

It is plain to see that 68.229.63.236 (probably a static IP address) is Raveonpraghga which happens to be the same IP address used in Regiabeauty's first intervention. He has a long history of ad hominem attacks, and unwillingness to cooperate in discussions both here and in the Spanish wikipedia. Now, he pretends to be another user to restart a long discussion. --Alonso 06:51, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I also had the same suspicion as J Alonso, and back the accusation that Ravaeonpragha and "Regiabeauty" are sockpuppets. Hari Seldon 16:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Conclusions

They don't get much clearer than this. On Dec 2, 68.229.63.236 signs a post as Raveonpragha, and on  Dec 14, 68.229.63.236 signs a post as Regiabeauty. Regiabeauty blocked, Raveonpragha strongly warned. -- AnonEMouse (squeak) 14:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)