Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Reisender

User:Reisender

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets

JdeJ 22:42, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
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The two accounts are used for targeting pages related to the former Yugoslavia and people from that region. Both accounts routinely replace the nationality of various people with the nationality Yugoslav. Neither of them engage in discussions about the edits, and both have frequently removed sourced statements without any explanation being given. The page on Marija_%C5%A0erifovi%C4%87 is a typical example. Reisender removed a well-sourced statement about her nationality 13 times, despite being told by various users that this was vandalism. When he was blocked for the second time, 24.151.129.28 immediately appeared and started repeating the very same deletion of the sourced statement on nationality, doing so 6 times. Both accounts have been used to make similar edits to many other pages, usually changing peoples' nationalities to Yugoslavs, showing the identical pattern of not hesitating to remove sourced statements, or to removed fact-tags without adding any facts or even any explanations, as both have recently done on the page Yugoslavs. The identical behaviour of removing sourced statements, chaning peoples' nationalities, refusing to take part in discussions and the consant Yugoslav POV-pushing all suggest that this is the same user.JdeJ 22:42, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Evidence

To add further evidence, both accounts are now being used to vandalise the page Black Hand, once again by inserting a sentence involving Yugoslavs. This is perhaps the most obvious evidence, since the sentence is incorrect but 'both' users seem to be unaware of it. The original sentence read tells how the Black Hand had the the intention of uniting all of the territories containing Serb populations (notably Bosnia and Herzegovina, annexed by Austria-Hungary in October 1908). Not only is this correct, it is also correct English. Both accounts repeatedly change this sentence into telling how the Black Hand had the intention of uniting all of the territories containing Yugoslav populations (Croats, Serbs, Slovenes, etc) annexed by Austria-Hungary in October 1908). Bosnia and Herzegovina were annexed by Austria-Hungary in 1908, just as the original version claims. When the user pushes his Yugoslav-agenda, he seems to be unaware of the result of his change - a sentence clearly stating that the areas annexed in 1908 contained, among others, Slovenes. Not only is this incorrect, the user himself has acknowledged that such a claim would be incorrect but seems to be unable to see that his own statement says so. That two users, both vandalising pages by inserting Yugoslav POV-pushing, both would target exactly the same pages and make exactly the same error seems highly unlikely. Both accounts also display the same habit of never signing their comments. , JdeJ 19:15, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments
 * Conclusions
 * Pretty clearly the same person, but I don't see evidence of a violation of WP:SOCK, so no action will be taken at this time. --Akhilleus (talk) 22:36, 6 June 2007 (UTC)