Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Sabian220

User:Sabian220

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets

[Tyler] (talk/contribs) 06:10, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
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It doesn't make sense that we're being accused of sockpuppeteering. Now that the page that I authored is finally deleted, it would make sense to also remove these discussions about it. Styxmahler 00:14, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment

Styxmahler posted a question on this page and blanked it after he found out how to put something up for AfD, also Sabian posted on just about everything Styx did.
 * Evidence

1. Styxmahler has been around much longer than I have, so if anything, he should be the suspected puppeteer, and I should be the suspected puppet, not the other way around. 2. Styxmahler (a.k.a. Nolan Stolz) posted a question on my talk page and blanked it later. So what? Wouldn't you suspect that if I were his puppet, I would blank it myself? (I have replaced the question since I referenced it in my comments in the Nolan Stolz entry of AfD). Furthermore, user:Tyler Warren should know as well as anyone that user:Styxmahler has been deleting his and others' comments left and right. (I have not deleted anyone's comments on any discussion pages, articles, AfD entries, etc.) 3. Neither I nor Styxmahler nominated the article Nolan Stolz for deletion. This was done by user:SingCal. 4. Regarding your accusation that "Sabian posted on just about everything Styx did" - Styxmahler and I have posted in a few of the same areas because I wish to see Nolan Stolz deleted, and Styxmahler is not only the author of Nolan Stolz, but he is Nolan Stolz. (user:Tyler Warren has plenty of evidence to prove this.)
 * Comments
 * Additionally, our reasons for supporting the deletion of Nolan Stolz are completely different. I have argued (on the article's discussion page and its AfD entry) that the subject of the article does not meet the criteria set forth in the notability guidelines and that there is a serious conflict of interest because the author of the article Nolan Stolz IS Nolan Stolz (user:Styxmahler). user:Styxmahler initially opposed deletion of this article! It was not until several users, including me, made irrefutable arguments about the COI and notability that user:Styxmahler conceded that the article should be deleted. However, even upon this concession, user:Styxmahler maintained that the article was well-sourced but that it had become too difficult to maintain, and thus he wished for it to be deleted. (See his comments on the AfD entry for Nolan Stolz).

5. I don't know if there are any admin who can compare our IP's (maybe that's what happens in the CheckUser process), but I welcome and encourage such a comparison, if at all possible, so this matter can be resolved. Sabian220 10:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC) P.S. I agree with user:Tyler Warren that user:Styxmahler should be banned for authoring and editing pages about himself, vandalism, and the deliberate removal of any evidence of his wrongdoing from multiple talk pages. I realize that this may not be the best forum to discuss this, but perhaps someone reading this will know the proper steps to take to open an inquiry into the wrongdoings of user:Styxmahler. Sabian220 10:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Conclusions