Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Seth hilton

User:Seth hilton

 * Suspected sock puppeteer


 * Suspected sock puppets


 * Report submission by
 *  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 01:58, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Evidence
 * All three are single-purpose accounts devoted to writing articles about a non-notable New Zealand singer, Seth Hilton. All but one have already been blocked for spamming, and the latest incarnation, the only one not yet blocked, also created an apparent hoax about a movie Hilton is allegedly in. The username refers to the name of an alleged TV show in which Hilton plays a title role.
 * I just added, although all edits are in his own userspace, because all edits are related to Seth Hilton and were done in the same time frame. These user pages are all identical to articles created by the other users reported here. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 02:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * I have no connection whatsoever with the other accounts mentioned.
 * I am a contributor on the fr.wikipedia.org and have been for a while.
 * Seth Hilton is a signed singer under contract to the Lollystickrecords label.
 * He is a managed actor who has been an extra on many shows.
 * Be aware that you are asking personal informations about a minor, certain procedures must be followed.
 * Any proof sought will be handled in a quick and professional manner. DrVince (talk) 03:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Greetings. Which part of Montreal do you live in? I see that your English has improved quite a lot since your last contribution to the French Wikipedia. Voulez-vous poursuivre cette enquête en français? Peut-être ce sera plus facile pour vous. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 04:30, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * En effet, le fran&ccedil;ais m'est plus confortable. Et j'habite coin St-Hubert et St-Zotique.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrVince (talk • contribs) 05:49, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * D'accord. Sachez que ce n'est pas par certitude de votre culpabilité que je vous ai impliqué dans cette enquête, mais il semble que les trois autres utilisateurs nommés ici tirent des pages de votre espace utilisateur et les copient sur l'espace article, où, comme vous l'avez peut-être constaté, leur espérance de vie est de l'ordre de quelques minutes à peine. Aussi, je trouve qu'il est tout de même bizarre qu'un souverainiste québécois s'intéresse à la carrière d'un obscur chanteur néo-zélandais pour lequel les seules références sur le Web sont des pages maintenues par le sujet lui-même (du genre MySpace). Mais j'aimerais savoir, pour ce qui est des positions atteintes aux divers palmarès par l'album Face to Face, d'où viennent vos chiffres? --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 06:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Après avoir questionné Seth Hilton, je n'ai toujours aucune preuve tangible. Je ne connais pas la provenance des chiffres.  Je ne peux obtenir de moyen de communication avec Lollystickrecords.  Je n'ai pas non plus de communication avec son agent, s'il en a un.  De plus, les relations d'affaire entre lui et moi ont changé.  Je ne contribuerai plus à ses pages.  Je crois que quelqu'un d'autre prendra le flambeau.  Moi, je me dissocie. DrVince (talk) 00:35, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, what was said here by DrVince convinced me that he's probably no sockpuppet. First, his edit patterns here in the English Wikipedia are quite consistent with what I saw in the French Wikipedia, that is, all edits are done on talk pages, project pages, and user subpages. Second, the reason I conducted this investigation in French was to verify his claim that he's a regular contributor to the French Wikipedia (that username had not been used there for nearly two years). The quality of his French is satisfactory. Since this user never received a warning about an edit in the article namespace (never even made such an edit), while the other three users listed here made all their edits there, I must conclude that DrVince was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. He can't even be accused of conflict of interest, even though he did have a business relationship with Seth Hilton, since he limited his edits to his own user space. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 05:26, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree that DrVince should be dropped from this report. It looks to me that User:Thenewzzshow could easily be blocked as a spam/advertising-only account. What to do about that editor seems to be the last open issue. I wonder how it happens that Thenewzzshow was editing sub-pages in DrVince's user space unless they know each other somehow? Consider if any scrutiny is needed of 70.73.158.100, a Toronto-based IP that has also been editing the Seth Hilton article. EdJohnston (talk) 20:25, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * DrVince did imply that he knows Seth Hilton in his reply to me, by claiming a (now past) business relationship with him. Given the other three usernames listed here, one would think that the sockpuppeteer is either Seth Hilton himself or someone closely related to him. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 03:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Conclusions
 * Blocked newsshow indef and it's very likely he's "seth" per deleted contribs. Don't know about the discog guy as that account's tendencies are slightly different (i.e. capitalisation is different in article titles); poss. CU? Good job on the French investigation btw, Blanchard. Scarian  Call me Pat!  05:27, 7 January 2009 (UTC)