Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/TVC 15

User:TVC 15

 * Suspected sock puppeteer


 * Suspected sock puppets


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 * Tool2Die4 (talk) 02:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

My suspicions arose from reading the talk page at Anderson Cooper, regarding his homosexuality (and the obvious BLP implications therein). Elphie13 had zero edits outside of the Anderson Cooper talk page. Elphie13 always agrees with what TVC 15 has to say. TVC 15 came to several different pages to defend himself, displaying obvious nervousness after the accusation.
 * Evidence
 * Elphie's first edit. Says she is new to Wikipedia, yet automatically grasps NPOV and the concept of reliable sources.
 * Elphie addresses TVC directly, agreeing with him.
 * Elphie addresses TVC directly again, agreeing with him.
 * I make an accusation of sock-puppetry at 15:09, and at 15:19, TVC refutes. Then, at 15:26, Elphie shows up to refute.
 * Elphie then comes to my talk page to defend her immediate understanding of Wikipedia policies from her first post.
 * TVC immediately gets defensive.
 * TVC now brings his defense to E-man's RFA.
 * User:Scarian agrees there are concerns about sock-puppetry. Scarian later said a CU came up negative for the two users.
 * TVC goes out of his way to make sure everyone knows Scarian's CU came up negative.

Contrary to Tool2Die4's assertion above, it was Tool2Die4 who linked the issue to an unrelated RfA. Instead of making the accusation through the WP:SSP channel, Tool2Die4 offered an express "Quid Pro Quo" involving the unrelated RfA to Scarian in exchange for "help" with this false accusation. In my opinion, this conduct shows Tool2Die4's awareness that the false accusation had no chance of succeeding on its own.
 * Comments

This false accusation is part of a pattern of bullying by Tool2Die4, who even acknowledges that I was already cleared. At Scarian's suggestion, I have placed a notice on WP:AIN concerning what I believe to be Tool2Die4's inappropriate activity (including false statements against me).TVC 15 (talk) 05:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, I suspect the pattern may include Tool2Die4 possibly using an anonymous IP as a sock puppet to 'corroborate' this false accusation of sock puppetry against me, so I have requested a WP:CHECKUSER:.

Lastly, Tool2Die4 filed this WP:SSP without notifying Elphie13 or me. I found it and have since notified Elphie13. signed TVC 15 (talk) 07:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Copied from the BLP noticeboard: "I explained this already in my post there, the assumption that I'd used WP before while saying I hadn't was based on me using NPOV in a sentence in my first post. [T2D4, you're right about Elphie13 being someone who has edited Wikipedia before (see [2] - see "I really hope I'm doing this right", and then scroll down to see use of "NPOV" - Strange). - scarian] Only, if you read the part I wrote he based that on, I didn't use NPOV, I was actually quoting that sentence in response to somebody else who said it before me up the thread, and I didn't cite NPOV or respond to the NPOV part at all myself. Meanwhile found out what it means. Other than that it's based on nothing else than me agreeing with someone, and the CheckUser search turned up unrelated. Elphie13 (talk) 06:59, 15 January 2009 (UTC) " (The 'there' I was talking about would be the talkpage of Tool2die4, linked to above.) Reliable sources I used in what I assume the term would mean, and I asked a question about it, I didn't use it in an argument.

The only other reason Tool2Die4 has for accusing me is agreeing with another poster, and defending myself against his accusation. After the Checkuser came back negative, I assumed good faith and we went on with discussing, and Tool2Die4 accuses us again without further evidence, which is all he has brought to the conversation so far. Elphie13 (talk) 08:08, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

❌. --Deskana (talk) 16:12, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions