Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Taharqa

User:Taharqa

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by Urthogie 19:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Evidence
 * An earlier RFCU came up with "inconclusive" for Mahmud II and Taharqa. Inconclusive does not mean false, though.  Here I will show that it is approaching statistically impossible that Mahmud II is not either a sockpuppet or meatpuppet of Taharqa.
 * Mahmud II has around 50 edits and has been editing for about a week. Their account was created while Taharqa was under a 5 day block for breaking the 3 revert rule.
 * Throughout their 1 week stay at Wikipedia, Mahumud II has only edited subjects Taharqa is interested in-- subjects related to racial politics and Oakland, California and the bay area of california.
 * Of course, it can be argued that Mahmud II edits outside of Taharqa's repitoire by editing non-race articles about Oakland. However, this point is easily countered by observing that Taharqa's email address, as indicated on this talk page is northsideoakland@yahoo.com.
 * Here is alias "Huey P Newton" with email northsideoakland@yahoo.com and location Oakland talking about hyphy on a rap forum.
 * Here is northsideoakland@yahoo.com with username "sonofisis" talking about West Coast Bay area hip hop/hyphy on a yahoo forum
 * Here is "sonofisis" talking about race and ancient Egypt on a history channel forum, using links that Taharqa frequently cites to express opinions that Taharqa frequently cites.
 * Here is Mahmud II editing Huey P. Newton
 * Here is Mahmud II editing Oakland, Cali related articles
 * Here is Mahmud II editing Talk:Hyphy


 * The link from User:Mahmud II's user page is this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mWW6kRITEY . That video happens to also have been a favorite of "sonofisis" (location specified as Oakland).  What are the chances of that?!  There are only 10 favorites on sonofisis's favorites list, and there are millions of videos on youtube.  What are the chances that the one linked from Mahmud II's user page would be one of them??


 * And of course, we can't forget the ancient Egypt and race connection between the two. Anytime Taharqa has been blocked or unable to revert again because of 3rr, Mahmud II has strangely appeared on the scene in agreement, reverting to her version.  Race and ancient Egypt is the best example of this, because Mahmud II has reverted to Taharqa's prefered version a total of 5 times as far as I can count (it may be more).  The following 3 diffs are reversions to Taharqa's version:
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 * These two edits are the most most egregious of all, because in them, the puppet Mahmud II is used to revert me to Taharqa's version despite the fact that Taharqa is blocked at the time and that we are in intensive mediation over this conflicted diff.
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 * Taharqa has been blocked for three different sockpuppets in the past.
 * Now, add all these facts together, and how is it not possible that Mahmud II is either a sockpuppet or meatpuppet of Taharqa? Add it all together and its a statistical chance of about 1 in a million that Mahmud II would overlap in regards to interests, location, reverts, subjects, and activity on other websites.
 * Comments
 * This may be a meatpuppet, specifically a family member/brother, but I am confident that it is a sockpuppet or a meatpuppet of some sort either way.
 * Taharqa should be blocked for a long time (along with her puppet) if this turns out to be a meatpuppet or sockpuppet. After all, she uses it to break 3RR on pages she cant revert on for several reasons such as being blocked at the time, not being able to break 3rr, or not to look bad for the ongoing mediation.  In addition, Taharqa has been blocked for sockpuppets in the past.  Taharqa should be blocked for a long time if this checks through.  She has had plenty of warnings.*
 * Inconclusive means it's not very clear if they are socks or not. It could mean that they all edit from the same geographic location but use different computers, or something similar. But regardless of the outcome of the RFCU I filed, there is no doubt in my mind at all that they are either used by the same person or are meatpuppets, and I am almost as certainly convinced that they are all connected to this once active user, who before becoming inactive was as obsessed with this topic, used the same sources and even wrote the same prose. Here is an edit from each , . I indicated this when I reverted the second edit . Most of this material has been reassembled by an obvious sock into this fork after it was deleted from the Race and ancient Egypt article (because of a consensus that it read too much like a personal essay or something like that). Also, while it may have proven convenient for this user to be mistaken for one, he is not "she"! "She" would not have chosen a name like Taharqa if that were the aim in the first place, so I wish that charade would stop as well. — Zerida 00:55, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Even if Taharqa is found to be within the same general area as Mahmud II this would seem to indicate that they are either sock or meatpuppets. What are the chances that a user from the same area is created when Taharqa is blocked, and overlaps in 3 chance ways-- Egypt, oakland, and hyphy, and also happens to revert at convenient times?  And how does one erxplain that all of these accounts which edit in line with Taharqa at convenient times are from the bay area?--Urthogie 01:03, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Conclusions
 * Possible, but not conclusive. Please note that the off-wiki evidence was not taken into account, and will not be; we're here to scrutinize on-wiki behavior. --Akhilleus (talk) 16:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)