Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Totophi

User:Totophi

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer

- added by Yechiel (Shalom)
 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

Nrswanson (talk) 19:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

All of these editors are arguing the same point on the Talk:C (musical note) page which is in contest because of concerns of false claims/original research. They all also have a similar hostile conversational tone which result in direct personal attacks on editor nrswanson based on his personal background (found on user pages) such as education and religion. They also have very short edit histories and appeared right around the same time. The liklihood that three such individuals would appear simultaneously on an article that is not edited often is too much of a coincidence.
 * Evidence

We have here a case of WP:NPA, WP:COI and WP:SOCK violations. I would like to see a permenant ban on Totophi and the various 142.167.*.* accounts that he uses.
 * Comments
 * I cannot determine for certain whether the IP addresses are Totophi, but based on their tone of voice I think they are different people. For the record, I think the three IP addresses are one person, but Totophi is a second person.  That doesn't mean Totophi's side should "win" by majority; KieferSkunk's comment in mediation seems to prefer Nrswanson's side of the content dispute. (I am unfamiliar with the subject so I cannot evaluate the content dispute.)  If I thought it would help, I might request a checkuser, but I think the solution is roughly the same whether or not they are the same user.  Basically, the normal rules of dispute resolution apply.


 * That being said, comments such as this are completely unacceptable:


 * Totophi wrote at 10:17 on 12 June: "My respect for you and your accomplishments has come to an end. Do you realize how deluded your own statement is? The issue of contention does NOT concern finer points of music theory! In addition, you pompously accuse me of insults where I have stated none. You, on the other hand, are revealing more and more the fine talent of talking a lot while saying little. Do you still claim to uphold the values on which Wikipedia is based? Give it up, you miserable hypocrite. Oh, and that's not an insult, by the way." Et cetera.

That should earn him a block for incivility, but not for sockpuppetry. I'll ask KieferSkunk about that. Yechiel (Shalom) 21:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The comments were uncivil, but as with most civility disputes, we would prefer to see you guys work it out amongst yourselves, and I do not believe that a good-faith effort to resolve the dispute has occurred yet. Please refer to WP:DR for help on dispute resolution methods.  The content dispute earlier did lead to incivility, which I will officially warn Totophi for, but I do not see evidence of a long-standing history of abuse on his/her part that would warrant a block at this time.


 * I also do not agree that there is compelling evidence of Totophi and the IP addresses are one in the same. This doesn't necessarily validate Totophi's arguments or attitude, but I do believe that this is not a case of sockpuppetry. &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash; 05:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Checkuser filed by Nrswanson: Requests for checkuser/Case/Totophi. Yechiel (Shalom) 21:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Conclusions

It is ✅ by Thatcher that Totophi and the anon are the same user. For incivility and abusive socking (see my comment at the RFCU), Totophi should be blocked for a month. Maybe that's harsh, but I think it's justified. Yechiel (Shalom) 14:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll leave the blocking action up to another admin, then. I've already given Totophi a civility warning and asked him to work constructively on the article, and to try to work things out with Nrswanson.  If another admin believes that a block is still warranted, I will let him/her override my actions. &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash; 15:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

We have proven socking and gross incivility here. I can see both actions, block and leave as warned. Tough call here given the circumstances. But I going with a one week block on the master and all three IPs. Tagged all too. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 10:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)