Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Tube bar

User:Tube bar

 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by

--Marty Goldberg (talk) 18:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

This user is the previously indefinitely blocked user Stonic. He has begun spamming links to Digital Press again:
 * Evidence

08:37, 23 January 2008 (hist) (diff) Easter egg‎ (→External links)

Likewise, in trying to continually push for recreation of the twice deleted Digital Press page, he has identified himself via the Digital Press forums:

"the trouble with Wikipedia", where he is also trying to incite people regarding the issue.


 * Comments

Disagree First of all, there doesn't seem to be a crystal-clear connection between the IP and the user Stonic. Discussion on a talk page are highly appropriate for such an item. While the desire of such a user to add material to Wikipedia is certainly valid, his use of a different account doesn't meet the criteria of a sockpuppet (Please note that all users are explicitly allowed to start over). He has not spammed links, but only one link; such a categorization is misleading. The provided web-based link does not link to a page the general populous has access to or has been deleted from the website. Combined with the lack of diffs or other clear evidence I do not see a violation of WP:SOCK at this time. Please feel free to add more information if you have it (see other nominations for examples). — BQZip01 — talk 00:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Clean start only applies if they do not repeat past disruption. If they come back and repeat spamming they were warned not to do before, they do not get a clean start.  They can be blocked as a scrutiny-avoiding sock puppet. Jehochman  Talk 05:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Concur, but at the time this was not very clear. It has certainly become more apparent. — BQZip01 —  talk 05:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

A) The link he added was the exact reason he was blocked indefinitely the last time - he was spamming links to that site. What's the very first thing he does creating the new account?  Adds another link to that site.  That's hardly misleading.  B) As far as what's on the page, I'm including a copy of the post here (the website forum is free and open to the general populace, you just have to register, there is no fee). The first is where he identifies himself as the same previously blocked person:


 * 01-23-2008, 11:00 AM
 * stonic


 * This morning I noticed the Wiki page for DP was removed. The page was originally created back in 2005. I can't imagine why it would
 * have been removed, so I attempted to recreate it, and it was *immediately* removed again! Why? Read on....
 * Wiki comments in read; DP in blue

(proceeds to copy argument from his wiki talk page)


 * Clearly, Wiki has changed its policy regarding how pages are created because proving 'notability' was never required before. And I
 * still don't know why it was removed to begin with. If anyone wants to take up the torch here, feel free. I'd had my fill of blimeys
 * for one morning.

Then there's this post where he states his intent to keep the pattern of adding those links here:


 * Yesterday, 08:05 AM 
 * stonic


 * Quote:
 * Originally Posted by Nebagram View Post
 * The irony of course is the amount of times wikipedia uses DP for references.


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._th...8Atari_2600%29
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Qube
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobal_2


 * That last one in particular is a corker of a reference.


 * edit: no, those aren't the only three.


 * Nice, huh? If links to DP on other pages are ok, then we'll just do that ;)

--Marty Goldberg (talk) 02:12, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


 * And now he just did it under yet another account, Special:Contributions/Rockgardenmagic. Spamming more Digital Press easter egg links, vandalizing AtariAge related links, atariprotos.com links, and other content. It should also be noted that he (Stonic) runs that easter egg link he keeps spamming.  --Marty Goldberg (talk) 06:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Agree Confirmed. It's him. StagParty (talk) 22:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Agree I think these latest edits prove a pattern of disruption. Any users that perpetuate this disruption (whether intentional or unintentional) should share the fate of the primary user. Indef blocks all around... — BQZip01 — talk 05:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Please contact Wikiproject Spam and ask them whether the domain that is being spammed can be blacklisted. This will end the sock puppetry by depriving the motive. Jehochman Talk 05:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Conclusions

Not convinced of the IP, but did tag him. Indef blocks on all named accounts. Notified spam project. The master is Stonic, not Tube bar. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 22:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)