Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Vincebethel

User:Vincebethel

 * Suspected sock puppeteer


 * Suspected sock puppets


 * Report submission by
 * Mr. Vernon (talk) 04:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Evidence
 * 1) User:Vincebethel is actually Vince Palamara - the contributions page Special:Contributions/Vincebethel for this article states as such.
 * 2) Vince Palamara is currently undergoing an AfD: Articles_for_deletion/Vince_Palamara.
 * 3) Mr. Palamara posted several times to the AfD, pleading for the article to be kept, but the majority was still in favor of deletion.  This included suggestions on how to make the article acceptable - admitting his ego, offering to reduce the article to one much smaller, and justifying notability by offering a laundry list of other works that referenced him.
 * 4) Mr. Palamara's MySpace page indicates he lives in Bethel Park, Pennsylvania and South Park, Pennsylvania, both suburbs to the south of Pittsburgh.
 * 5) Two new users became involved in the conversation.  User:Davejz and User:Jessica120.
 * 6) Davejz has only contributed to three articles: Vince Palamara, the AfD, and a single change to an article on Jerry Reuss ref
 * 7) The change to the Jerry Reuss in question concerns Reuss's time as a player in the Pittsburgh Pirates organization.  As mentioned, Mr. Palamara lives near Pittsburgh.
 * 8) Jessica120 has only contributed to either the Vince Palamara article or the AfD.
 * 9) Jessica120's changes to Vince Palamara have echoed the ones that Mr. Palamara suggested.
 * 10) Jessica120's case to keep Vince Palamara have echoed Palamara's suggestions - including admitting ego.
 * 11) Jessica120 made two edits when logged out, resulting in an IP address being shown: 1 and 2.  Both were made shortly after Jessica120's previous edit; the one made to the AfD was made 11 minutes after her last edit, and the one made to Vince Palamara was made 5 minutes after her last edit - with the description of "me again :-)"
 * 12) The IP address in question, 216.183.185.133, is associated with the Mount Lebanon, Pennsylvania library.
 * 13) All of these cities are suburbs to the south of Pittsburgh.  Bethel Park is 5 miles away from Mount Lebanon 1 and Bethel Park a bit over 8 miles 2.

Seeing as both users came on only when the article was nominated for deletion, have only commented on Vince Palamara or his AfD (with one exception), both live in or near the same geographical location as vincebethel, and have made similar comments as Mr. Palamara on his AfD, these are almost certainly sock puppets.


 * Comments

I closed the AfD as Delete, given the broad consensus that the subject did not meet our notability guidelines. Even prior to a review of the above facts, it was clear from the RfA that the three accounts in favor of keeping the article (listed above) were the same individual. UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 18:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The contributions all look the same and all around the AFD, Users sound the same also. I Think CU would make this 100%.  ·Add§hore·  T alk /C ont 15:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Conclusions
 * Blocked socks indef, master two weeks. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 00:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)