Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Watchdogb

User:Watchdogb

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 * Suspected sockpuppeteer


 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Report submission by -- ♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪  walkie-talkie  18:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Evidence


 * Both of these users are from Toronto, Ontario and suspected to be from the Greater Toronto Area. Both are from the same ISP and within the same operational area of that ISP.


 * User:Sinhala freedom -
 * IP - 99.245.165.28
 * ISP - Rogers Cable Communications Inc.
 * Location - Canada [City: Richmond Hill, Ontario](Greater Toronto Area)


 * User:Watchdogb -
 * IP - 74.102.154.231
 * ISP - Rogers Cable Communications Inc.
 * Location - Canada [City: Toronto, Ontario]


 * User:Sinhala freedom has been editing with an apperant anti-LTTE bias, and even accusing to the Norwegian Minister of International Development. However he accidentally made an edit without logging in, therby revealing his actual IP address. Once he realized that he was not logged in he directly went and blanked the IP talk page. As a matter of fact, this IP was previously used (as little as 6 days before) to make blatently pro-LTTE edits., pretty much proving the meatpuppet suspicions.


 * In order to evade WP:3RR on the LTTE article, he made sure he didn't revert the same content more than 3 times. After he reached to the reversion limit of 3, he started to leave atotally-disputed tag on top of the article. When he reached to the maximum reversion limit of 3 on the tag, User:Watchdogb came to the support of User:Sinhala freedom and added the tag himself. When a dispute existed User:Sinhala Freedom directly added a Request for page protection while other newbies were leaving their talk page messages without even signing in. Not only he was evading, this user was also commenting 17 times when User:Snowolfd4 was reported by User:Watchdogb and reporting to the behavior of editors to the WP:ANI.


 * User:Sinhala Freedom has been commenting in Peer review/Parâkramabâhu I, where User:Snowolfd4 and I were working on a peer review, User:Sinhala Freedom kept a negative comment which I categorize as stalking. After we revert his edits as trolling he repeatedly adding the same comment which was gone into an editwar. On July 24, 2007 User:Snowolfd4 removed the comment made by User:Sinhala Freedom saying Trolling. One minute later User:Taprobanus reverted that and after one hour it was reverted by me. After that User:Sinhala Freedom joined to the revert war and he/she made 4 reversions by violating WP:3RR. 15 minutes after he made the 4th revert he reverted his own last revert to get away from the WP:3RR violation.


 * User:Sinhala freedom also followed me and User:Snowolfd4 on Featured article candidates/Karnataka and made a comment. Even before we two made our decisions there another two Sri Lanka centric wikipedians (User:Iwazaki and User:Netmonger) have been there. But clearlying further more my suspicions of stalking my edits, User:Sinhala freedom made his decision after we two vote there.


 * On July 25, 2007 User:Ulflarsen kept a message on Talk:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam saying [..]Regarding user Sinhala Freedom; I have received an email that states that the said user is writing under a fake position to undermine the arguments of sinhala editiors active on this article, that is admin Blinguyen, snowolfd4, lahiru_k and Iwazaki. I have warned the user that we have rules against such, telling the user to stop using the account and I have also reported it to admin Circeus.[..]


 * On July 26, 2007 User:Ulflarsen posted the e mail which sent by the User:Sinhala freedom to him.
 * It contains [..]Sorry for the recent criticizing of Norway effort on the LTTE page. I am not who I claim to be and this is intended to break and demoralize sinhala nationalists who have ransacked many SL and tamil related pages. I want you to keep this a complete secret and not reflect this in any of your comments to me or any other page. I hope your intervene in helping to force that neutrality disputed tag. This whole account is a cover to try to get the neutrality disputed tag on that page and the master plan obviously is to launch RFCs on snowolfd4 and lahiru_k. We have evidence to believe these guys are sharing accounts and using sockpuppets.[..]


 * Comments
 * LOL very pathetic. Richmondhill is atleast a 30 minutes drive from where I live (Toronto (North York)). I do not know how I can be at two places at the same time. Watchdogb 19:15, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Evidence I am NOT Sinhala freedom

MY Contrib : 22:45, 24 July 2007 (hist) (diff) Wikipedia:Administrators noticeboard/3RR (New report on 3rr violation)

MY Contibs: 22:46, 24 July 2007 (hist) (diff) Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR (→User:Snowolfd4 reported by User:watchdogb (result))

Sinhala Freedom's contrib: 22:46, 24 July 2007 (hist) (diff) Talk:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (→Regarding the proposed section about external support)

Seems like I can be at 2 different places at same time. Or mabe I can travel closer to the speed of sound and get from one spot to another (more than 10-15 km away) and contribute less than a minut later. Watchdogb 19:32, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Watchdog's evidence does indeeed check out, in addition to the fact that Sinhala made another edit the same minute. I don't think there's any way he could switch accounts that fast. -Amarkov moo! 22:25, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, most of this report is irrelevant to Watchdog; the only connection actuall made is that he supported Sinhala once on one article. I'm really not even seeing plausible sockpuppetry here. -Amarkov moo! 22:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't care whether he is lives in Richmondhill or Toronto, North York or what so ever since todays technology have been developed and anyone can do multiple edits within one minute using multiple accounts. confused? Those are called anonymous proxy servers and remote accessing. And this is what happens when bad hands learn to use them, as I suspects.
 * Connections between those two users doesn't make any sense since case about trolling, stalking and disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate their pathetic points. By reading Ulflarsen's message on his talkpage can get a full understanding about this incident. I know that in here Wikipedia we don't take any emails as evidence, but I know Ulf have no any reason for lying or protect someone else. -- ♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪  walkie-talkie  23:59, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * How can I use anonymous proxy and still be detected by DSN ? Also how can anaonymous proxy let me have connections to a whole different city's IP ? Further, there is no way that anonymous proxy can be used from the same place and have another IP. This is impossible. Your type of accusation is very laughable because this way we can accuse every single wikipedia user of using sockpuppet. Watchdogb 00:11, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * What Lahiru_k doesn't mention is that UlfLarsen confirms that he doesn't know who sent the email message "User Sinhala Freedom is right in that I do not know who sent it, however I think its approriate to mention it" .  It also evident there is no motive for me to ask for support from UlfLarsen (who is evidently not an administrator) which he posted after, when the page was already protected and already had a content dispute tag by 05:20 25 July 2007.  As I had mentioned earlier on the LTTE talk page, I believe the email was a hoax, since someone posted that UlfLarsen and admin FayssalIf had already wanted the content dispute tag on the page (this was posted on July 24th). Sinhala freedom 00:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC).
 * As for 3RR violations, I had got a warning from Nick on my talk page during the dispute on the LTTE page not to revert more than 3 times within a 24h time period (this was after my 3rd revert of  ), which is what I followed.  Sinhala freedom 00:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC).
 * My comments regarding the Parâkramabâhu I article were well intentioned. That king after all is Sri Lanka's greatest and I felt the article could be much improved to reflect the greatness of this individual and therefore I made suggestions as to how to improve the article.  Another user, Taprobanus also supported my comment on that page Peer review/Parâkramabâhu I.  I am deeply saddened that the accuser wrongly interprets the comments as stalking  .  Sinhala freedom 01:09, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * My vote for Featured article candidates/Karnataka I thought was well deserved. The article was superbly written and inspiration for everyone else on wikipedia. I don't how I could be stalking anyone there.  I didn't argue with anyone.  The accuser and myself both supported Feature Article status for the article ? How is that stalking ??  Sinhala freedom 02:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Almost no connection has been demonstrated between the two accounts. The complaints of trolling, harassment, etc. by Sinhala freedom may be valid, but there's not enough evidence to conclude that he is abusing sockpuppets. -Amarkov moo! 00:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It may be possible that they are sockpuppets, although it would take enough work to do what's necessary that I highly doubt it. (You are right that locations mean nothing, of course.) But you've only shown one connection between the two. That's not enough to base a sockpuppetry accusation off of, sorry. -Amarkov moo! 03:17, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Conclusions