Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 191

my article

 * Note: Transferred from the Teahouse talk page; consider using a ping to alert the editor when answering given age.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:25, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

I made a article Blocks when i did a infobox but it didn't work so i was wondering can u help me. Other issue the infobox has not been appearing so is it a bug or do i need to do something — Preceding unsigned comment added by HelperUset (talk • contribs) 14:58, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, HelperUset. I apologize for the delay in answering; your question sat in the wrong spot for a while.


 * An infobox is a template. For your draft article, I suggest Template:Infobox video game.  Infoboxes summarize the content of articles in a standardized way.  Most articles about video games use the same infobox to make it easy for readers to see key information.  You shouldn't generally create a new infobox if one already exists for a topic.  For more information, see Wikiproject: Infoboxes.


 * Make your draft in your sandbox. To use the infobox, copy the template and paste it into your draft at the very top.  Then follow the instructions on the template page to fill in the blanks.  Use your preview button to see it it looks OK, then save the page.


 * Hope this helps. DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·ʇuoɔ) Join WER 17:16, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

How to update an Article for submission
I wrote an article and had feedback that it needed to be more encyclopedic, which I have now rewritten as such (I think) and cut the previous article and pasted the new one in, but I am not sure how to submit it now. Any feedback would be great!Realstonesquared (talk) 22:39, 14 March 2014 (UTC)


 * You removed the  and   code from the top; I've restored it. There is now a "Resubmit" button you can click to request another review.   Anon 126   (talk - contribs) 00:22, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Asking a company for its logo
Hi! I'm working on improving an article about a company. The only logo I found on the company's website is blurry because of its small size. Can I ask the company to send a logo via email with a higher revolution? However, how would I fit that into the fair use rationale considering its source wouldn't be directly public? Thanks, Bananasoldier (talk) 00:20, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello . According to our guideline on use of logos, "Logos uploaded to Wikipedia must be low-resolution and no larger than necessary." Accordingly, I recommend against trying to use a higher resolution logo than the company itself uses on its own website.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  02:11, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

hijaking and displaying of article on other sites
can u please tell me that why my article is hijacked by some people and displayed with different site addresses — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hero3524 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the teahouse, . This is quite normal; in fact thousands of sites do this. Due to Wikipedia's free license, it's explicitly perimtted for other sites to copy articles as long as they provide attribution and redistribute under the same license. See here for more. --Jakob (talk) 16:23, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * But if they are claiming copyright of the content let someone know. It happens more often than people think.--Mark Miller (talk) 03:14, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

how can I join a WikiProject?
Hi, I am currently trying to help out with pages related to science fiction novels. I found out that there is a WikiProject related to science fiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Science_Fiction

Is it appropriate for me to join this WikiProject? If so, how do I join this WikiProject? Are there specific requirements for joining a WikiProject? Transcendentalist01 (talk) 04:58, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Just add your user name here and you will be a member! I just did myself!--Mark Miller (talk) 05:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Close account
1. If I add retired to my usertalk page does my work/edits get removed or do they stay. 2. Can I retire my current account & start a new account?

 Sarah   1971  05:11, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately no, you cannot delete the work you have already done and you cannot close the account or it would lose attribution to your contributions. Please see Changing username for more information. Thanks and happy editing.--Mark Miller (talk) 05:17, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Mark :) I don't want to delete the work I have done, I want to know if Im allowed to retire a user account & allowed to start a new one.  Sarah   1971  05:27, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello . Please read about making a clean start. If you stop all use of an existing account, and start a new one in good faith, then that is fine. Please be aware that you will be expected to avoid all articles and topic areas where you have had disputes. So you may want to consider modifying your behavior, learning from your experiences as a newcomer, and continuing with your existing account. The decision is yours.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  05:31, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Sarah, it is important to note though that WP:CLEANSTART does not apply to editors whose behavior is currently under discussion. Do not create a new account while the current sockpuppetry investigation is underway as this would likely result in both accounts being blocked. VQuakr (talk) 06:33, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

how to apply customize signature
I have customizes my signature but dont know how to apply it. Each time I type four tides, the same old simple signature appears Aftab Banoori 05:37, 15 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aftabbanoori (talk • contribs)

Please also tell me why this remark appears after I sign?--->Preceding unsigned comment added by


 * The reason that SineBot is putting the "Preceding unsigned comment ..." comment is that your signature does not include a link to either your user page or your user talk page, so it does not meet the requirements of WP:signature. I don't know how you have tried to customize your signature, but it is possible that you have erroneously ticked the " Treat the above as wiki markup" box in your preferences at Special:Preferences.  If you are not sure how to customize correctly, it is safer to stick with the default signature. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:16, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

report user
Hello, My work/edits are being attacked by another Wiki user. Is there a page I can report this person. Sarah1971 (talk) 16:39, 14 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Sarah, welcome to the teahouse. If an editor is changing edits that you have made, the first place to discuss that is on the talk page of the article concerned. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 16:44, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply :) I have been talking to the user on many pages but nothing gets resolved so now I need to report this to someone who can look in to this more & hopefully take action. Sarah1971 (talk) 16:50, 14 March 2014 (UTC)


 * There is a checkuser investigation in progress at Sockpuppet investigations/TimeQueen32, so that's probably the best next step at this point. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 16:58, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

The checkuser investigation has not been proven, or any other claim of being involved with anything else, but yet a user is attacking my work because of this. As in the reason for edit box this user keeps saying its because I being checked? or part of a paid group? is that a good enough reason for undoing my work, surely this needs to be proven first. Is there a page I can go and report a user please. Sarah1971 (talk) 17:20, 14 March 2014 (UTC)


 * You could report them at ANI if you wish, but your description of an experienced editor as "attacking" your work merely because they and other editors believe that material is not appropriate to be added to an article, sounds rather like a BATTLEGROUND attitude and is thus unlikely to receive much sympathy there. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 17:33, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your help really. Sarah1971 (talk) 17:40, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

If I believe that a user is getting other users to gang up on another user is there a page to report this? Wikipedia must have 100,000s of editors but I find it suspect that a certain small number of users are always around to edit posts by another user & to help give support when there's a complaint towards one of their fellow friends, very strange seeing as my work has been untouched for ages, but out of the blue its boom boom boom withing days of being called names.  Sarah   1971  11:53, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Page content
Hello, Im adding text to a Wiki page, is it OK to add text to the Wiki page taken from the personal website of the Wiki subject I'm working on.  Sarah   1971  14:58, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, so long as the website owner has met the requirements of WP:DCM. However, whether the copied material stays on Wikipedia would subsequently be decided by consensus. For example, many people's websites about themselves are written in a promotional tone not an encyclopedic one. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:09, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Web links
Would a certified youtube page of say a big brand like Nokia or Sony be OK to use as a reference link on a wiki page.  Sarah   1971  15:04, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Only for what the brand says about themselves and matters related to them. For example, information from Sony's youtube page about an environmental charity that they're working with or promoting or sponsoring, for example, would neither be of use for proving the notability of Sony, nor of the charity.


 * You would also need to format the reference to make clear what it is. Bare links alone are of little use. So for example:


 * Nokia markets a range of smartphones, some of which Nokia says can be used to run Android applications.


 * --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:22, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Expanding on what Demiurge said, self-published sources should usually be used as a last resort. For example: if you'd like to mention the specs of the upcoming Samsung Galaxy S5, using a reliable news article that lists the phone's specs should be used over a promotional commercial Samsung published on their Youtube channel. If an alternative like that doesn't exist though, then there shouldn't be a problem using a self-published source (like the Youtube video) as described above. ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 16:28, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

How to add nformation under the profile photo?
Hello, Please help me with the following problem, I know how the profile photo information should be added. But now as I try to do it, I face with a problem. The photo is added, but the information under it appears in tha main text space. Please help me to solve it. Thanks Heghvan (talk) 13:32, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Heghvan, welcome to the Teahouse. I guess you refer to Vahan Artsruni where you earlier added  although it's not currently there. Code like that can add an isolated image with a caption but no other text. It sounds like you want to add an infobox instead like for example in Daron Malakian. The code for that is completely different. You can use Template:Infobox musical artist. See the documentation there and note you can only use the documented parameter names. You can also click the "Edit" tab on another article to see how it did it. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:01, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Help please
I'm trying to learn like everyone else new & using a subject I know about (street art), I'm not linked to the subjects I'm working on, I'm just trying to make good of my edits that are being taken down. I'm trying to walk before I run, rather than editing/messing up many other pages. The page I'm working on Graffiti Kings was up for deletion for 3 weeks & was just approved as OK. Now the page content has been ripped to shreds days after it was approved as OK. Surely if the content was wrong then people would of said this when it was up for deletion. I have since tried to follow advice & ask for advice but keep getting knocked down or no replies. Can someone please help with this page please. Is the new edits after the page was OK called for when the page was granted OK. again: Surely if the content was wrong then people would of said this when it was up for deletion. If the edits are OK then fine, as I said I'm learning.  Sarah   1971  18:07, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Sarah, welcome back to the teahouse. This question has been answered at WP:ANI where you also posted it. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:13, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Is it okay to use an online database as a source?
For a class assignment, I have to make additions to a current Wikipedia page. I was wondering, is it okay to use an online database as a resource for my information? Thanks! Gina at Stockton College (talk) 14:55, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Gina! I assume by database, you mean academic databases that contain papers, articles, etc. Academic databases are often a great place to get reliable sources for articles, so yes, as long as the source you wish to use meets the guidelines laid out at Identifying reliable sources. There is no requirement for sources to be easily accessible for free, as long as they can be accessed by the general public in one way or another (such as a book in a library, a news article that has been archived in a pay-to-use database, etc.). ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 16:49, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much! Gina at Stockton College (talk) 19:39, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Citing Web Sources/Correct Code
Hello everyone

I submitted my article to be reviewed and I've been knocked back because of poor sourcing. I've tried to correct my errors to show the website publisher and the date of retrieval. I keep getting errors,specifically a CS1 error. What is the correct syntax to solve this? Thanks.:)Wyliecoyote1990 (talk) 22:51, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, welcome to the Teahouse! The CS1 error was caused by a vertical bar (|) where there should've been an equals sign (=). The correct code is "publisher=Publisher's Name"; I've fixed this already. I'll also leave some additional comments on the article.  Anon 126   (talk - contribs) 22:59, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks:)Wyliecoyote1990 (talk) 23:11, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

A few questions
I have a few questions. First off, how do i add an photo to an article. Second, how do, for an example, add an infobox to like an Eminem album or a Book.

CFP2016 (talk) 23:16, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi, welcome to the teahouse. Try Template:Infobox album or Template:Infobox book.


 * Regarding adding photos, who took the photo, and what article? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:25, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks... The Article is Angry Blonde (Eminem book) and it is an article i made i need help finding a picture that isn't copyrighted thats of the cover to put on there.

CFP2016 (talk) 01:40, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello . Any image of a copyrighted book cover will be covered by that copyright. However, the fair use exception to copyright law allows such use for certain purposes. Please refer to WP:NFCI which allows for usage on Wikipedia of "Cover art from various items, for visual identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item (not for identification without critical commentary)". The article Angry Blonde includes critical commentary, so I think that uploading a low-resolution image of the cover to Wikipedia (not Wikimedia Commons), for use only in that article, is acceptable.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  01:51, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Invite to help add content to 2 Wiki pages.
Hello :) over the last few days I have tried to add content to 2 pages & withing minutes the edits are taken down by users that just love to ruin pages rather than help them?. Rather than me still trying to edit & still getting my work taken down would any nice users like to help a newbie out by adding content to the 2 pages. On both talk pages I have added a list of web links for you to source, some links are good some are poor, another area I'm no good at :( If these link should disappear then they are added on my user page.

The 2 pages are: graffiti artist Darren Cullen & hes graffiti art company Graffiti Kings

Before anyone asks or leaves a comment: I'm trying to learn like everyone else new & using a subject I know about (street art), I'm not linked to the subjects I'm working on, I'm just trying to make good of my edits that are being taken down. I'm trying to walk before I run, rather than editing/messing up many other pages.

Thanks in advance really.

 Sarah   1971  22:46, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Sarah, welcome back to the teahouse! In answer to your question, no the editors in question do not love to "ruin" pages.


 * I hope this helps. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:10, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Well they don't like to help a newbie & know how to make a newbie feel welcome. Sorry but my impression is that there's nothing but 99% hate on here & sticking up for other fellow experienced users. If you go through my history your see maybe only 5 people have actually said hello or Hi & give advice. Sad really.  Sarah   1971  23:29, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Sarah, welcome back to the teahouse. If your statistic of "99% hate" is correct, that is certainly very alarming! And we should all do all we can to improve that statistic. Having reviewed your contributions and talk page, I agree that at least five people have greeted you with salutations like "hi" or "hello". --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:15, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Edits and creations
Hello I am new to Wikipedia and I need help on how to make links in a page that I had made and also how to cite sources on my page. also, please visit my new page calledblitz brigade. I have made that page and please format it for me. Also, please teach me how to format an article. Thank you Callmehellor (talk) 10:19, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * According to what I have read on "help", my page (Blitz brigade) might have been already deleted due to lack of links and sourcesCallmehellor (talk) 10:27, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse. I have added a number of useful links to your user talk page, including to WP:Your first article.  Read that, & other articles linked.  Note that in your question  blitz brigade appears as a red link because Wikipedia page names are case-sensitive.  You presumably intended to link to Blitz Brigade.  In general as a new editor it may be advisable to use the article for creation process, which gives the opportunity to have your draft reviewed before it is published. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:36, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot David. But I still don't understand why some links that I write comes up as red and says (This page does not exist} when my mouse hovers over it. Please clarify.Callmehellor (talk) 10:47, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * @Callmehellor:  Hey Callmehellor. Case-sensitivity that David told you about above refers to the case of letters –   vs.  . So   b litz  b rigade  will not result in a working link to   B litz  B rigade  (unless the lowercase version is made into a redirect to the uppercase version). Does that help clarify?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:36, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah yes. Thank you, that does clarify. let me try : Blitz BrigadeCallmehellor (talk) 01:46, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Yes that link now works. But the page is likely to get deleted very soon unless you add the references that show it is notable (I realise that that is what you are asking). This is why it is usually better to create new pages using the articles for creation process, because they do not go straight into main article space, so you get more of a chance to get them into a fit state. I would move your into one of the draft spaces, but I don't know whether you need to do anything more than just moving it - any other teahouse hosts more up on this than I am? In answer to your question, please see referencing for beginners. --ColinFine (talk) 10:38, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Articles for creation
I am the son of Dimitri Papadimos (1st May 1918 - 3rd May 1994) who was a Greek photographer. Over time I have contributed some of his work to WIKIPEDIA via Wikimedia Commons (https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListFiles&limit=250&user=Yani+papadimos). I have also contributed to Austen Harrison and to el:Δημήτρης_Παπαδήμος. In 2013 I created the article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dimitri Papadimos that was deleted and I dont know the reason especially since articles were created using items from this project to create cs:Dimitris_Papadimos and ru:Пападимос, Димитрис. Thank you for your time in explaining to me the mater 89.210.185.207 (talk) 17:11, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, Yani. (I've converted the URL's in your question to wikilinks, to make it easier to read). The draft was not deleted, but was declined by as not being sufficiently referenced to establish notability: you can ask that user on their talk page for more information. But looking at the draft article as it stands, I see that most of the references are to works by Papadimos: these do nothing to establish notability (in the special Wikipedia sense) which requires substantial writing about the subject. The National Bank of Greece Cultural Foundation is the right sort of thing - but it is quite short. Can you find places where reliable sources (such as major newspapers, or books published by reputable publishers) with no connection to Papadimos have published longer writing about him and his work? Those would be ideal (they don't have to be in English or online, though it's preferable if they are). It looks likely that he is notable in Wikipedia's sense - but the article has to establish this by reference to specific reliable sources that talk about him.
 * The Czech and Russian articles may or may not be relevant. It is acceptable to translate text from one Wikipedia to another, but it is important to note that you have done so, so that the text is properly attributed: see translation for how to do this. But different Wikipedias have different rules, and just because a subject is suitable for an article in one doesn't automatically mean that it is acceptable in another. Similarly, references in an article in one language may be useful in an article in another language, but will not necessarily meet the criteria for another language Wikipedia.
 * One final point: you have said that you are his son. This means that you have a conflict of interest which may make it hard for you to write about him in the neutral way that is required. You are doing the right thing by going through the Articles for creation process, but I wanted to make sure that you understood Wikipedia's recommendations on this issue (which is why I have linked to a page discussing it). --ColinFine (talk) 11:05, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Current state cross channel
How is he getting on, is he figuring out that the closest across channel 1914 100 years ago, might not of been the right reasons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.147.84.144 (talk) 11:12, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, 81.147. I don't know what you are asking about, but this is a page for asking for help in editing Wikipedia, so your question does not fit here at all. You might like to ask it at the Wikipedia reference desk; but if you do, please give some more context, so that people can tell what your question relates to. --ColinFine (talk) 11:17, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Not able to see the last part
I'm not able to see what is posted after the, "No basis for RAW Sponsership" section on the discussion page of Talk:Terrorism in Pakistan, so someone please fix it.—Khabboos (talk) 13:44, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Khabboos, thanks for reporting this. Fixed in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Terrorism_in_Pakistan&diff=599861717&oldid=599743021] Somebody had accidentally deleted the end marker from an undisplayed comment so the rest of the page became part of the comment. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:02, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Person is notable enough for own article if they are the subject of an artist/musician?
I nominated an article for deletion because the person failed Notability (people) and Notability (people) mentions nothing about inclusion if the person is the muse or subject for a famous person's songs, paintings, poems, etc. The only reasonable criteria that other editors in the debate give is that the person is a very important muse for her husband, the very famous musician. Is this correct reasoning and does Notability (people) need an additional line explaining how this is a basis for notable? It seems the only basis for articles such as Marie-Thérèse Walter and Fernande Olivier (since her memoirs were squelched). Alatari (talk) 02:16, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. To answer that question, it is simply...no. Notability is not a matter of being inspiration but much more.--Mark Miller (talk) 02:35, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . In my opinion, we do not need to add language covering every single eventuality. "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." That coverage does not need to be a book length biography focusing on that person to be significant. When you say that the person in question "failed" the mentioned notability guidelines, you are expressing your own opinion, not an established fact. In the relevant debate, Articles for deletion/Sara Dylan, other experienced editors disagreed with you quite strongly, and some have also praised your work improving the article. In just a minute of searching, I found a New York Times story that says that Bob Dylan's 1965 marriage to Sara Lowndes was one of the two most important factors that led to his eight year withdrawal from touring, during a time that they had four children together. It can certainly be argued that the ex-spouse of a marginally notable musician is not notable. But in the case of the ex-spouse of a musician of such enduring fame who has been the subject of intensive biographical coverage for over half a century, the conclusion may well be different, depending on the range of coverage in reliable sources. Also worthy of note is that she is the mother of another highly notable musician, Jakob Dylan.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  02:49, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * To be clear, all of those taking part in the debate are expressing opinions about how they interpret Notability (people). I did not introduce the specific case I was dealing with and am not sure why you found it important to do so, but since you brought it up one of the editors expressing strong disagreement already crossed a line by accusing me of sexism in my AfD.  That also is an opinion . Per WP:NOTINHERITED her being the mother of, or wife of a musician, no matter how famous, is not allowed as criteria in a debate of notable inclusion.  Level of notability is simply not inherited.
 * Anyway, there are two different answers to my originally posed question now. Alatari (talk) 03:16, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Well then....I believe that is "much more". ;-)--Mark Miller (talk) 03:11, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * As an experienced Teahouse host, I believe that it is almost always more productive and instructive to discuss specific cases than to discuss generalities. As to WP:NOTINHERITED and your interpretation thereof,, that is not a policy and not even an established guideline but rather an essay. I happen to consider it a useful essay in many cases but to say that something is "not allowed as criteria" based on an essay is to attribute far more strength to a section of an essay than is deserved, in my opinion. By the way, I disagree with the accusation of sexism against you in this case.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  04:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't want to take sides so I kept my answer really simple. My bad.--Mark Miller (talk) 05:21, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I see that now and realize my mistake there: This essay contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors on Wikipedia:Deletion policy. Essays may represent widespread norms or minority viewpoints. Consider these views with discretion. Essays are not Wikipedia policies or guidelines.. Thanks for pointing it out.  I may have been editing since 2007 sporadically but this is my first AfD and a learning experience.  I'm going to end up being the one doing all the repairs to the article even though I'm the one with the least interest. Alatari (talk) 04:06, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * If so, you deserve great credit for improving the encyclopedia,, and I thank you for it.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  04:23, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I have substantially re-written the Sara Dylan article with new cites since Alatari launched his AFD on this article. Mick gold (talk) 14:39, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Uncertainty Reduction Theory
Hello everyone. I am doing my University assignment on Charles Berger's Uncertainty Reduction Theory, asking for some help. I would like to edit Defense section and add some information about Berger's term 'hedging'. Will it be fine if I will quote Berger from the book? or should I do add something else(reliable source)?

J.podolski (talk) 17:50, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . A brief quote from the originator of the theory is fine, as long as it is enclosed in quotation marks, and cited properly. When I look at that article, though, I have strong suspicions that much of the content may have been cut and pasted directly from the original sources without proper attribution, rather than properly paraphrased and summarized by earlier Wikipedia editors. Please be aware that I am unfamiliar with the topic, and can't say with 100% certainty. However, if my suspicions are correct, then you are dealing with possible copyright violations and your first and most important task will be to remove all violating content and completely rewrite those sections.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  18:11, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much User:Cullen328, I will take your advice and will try to come with best suitable solutions J.podolski (talk) 18:24, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Wording of this notice is confusing
On Dependency Injection I see this: Does "Please add a reason or a talk parameter" just mean use the talk page? What "template" is it talking about? Do I need WikiProjects blessing before I do anything?

I've added some thoughts to the talk page but I'm reluctant to touch the main page until I know what this notice is trying to say. I am an expert on dependency injection and agree the page needs attention.

Any sort of guidance would be welcome. Galhalee (talk) 04:21, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. What that means is a suggestion to edit the template to something like, so that what is displayed on the page gives more information about what the problem is. But it is not essential, and putting a discussion on the talk page is fine. --ColinFine (talk) 11:15, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, thank you! That makes so much more sense now.  I've joined the project.  I'll update the notice simply because I don't want to be the only expert updating the page.  Is it OK to give more than one reason?  It has a number of issues.  Would also appreciate an experienced Wikipedian checking up on the page as it changes.  Galhalee (talk) 18:37, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

How do you find history on a large page?
View history is chronological. On a large page how do I find where a particular line was edited? Is there a way to search history? Even narrowing View History down to a section would be helpful. The summaries are not reliable for this. Galhalee (talk) 18:33, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * At the top of the history page is a link "Revision history search" which you can use to find when a particular word or phrase was added to the article. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:49, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Is there a tutorial for creating a page ?
Is there a tutorial for creating a page ? Eliforme (talk) 18:26, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . You may find Your first article and A Primer for newcomers to be useful.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  19:18, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Notability Tag
Hello :) a company page I'm working on has got a Notability Box attached to the top of its page Graffiti Kings. Its asking for more reliable, secondary sources about the topic to be added.

My question is: where on the page do I add these reliable secondary web links & how

Thanks in advance  Sarah   1971  16:24, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, welcome back to the Teahouse! A good way to do this is to simply add more information and cite reliable secondary sources. (See the introduction to referencing if you need help with this.)  Anon 126   (talk - contribs) 22:36, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Article for publishing: unclear reliability
Hi, I wrote this article and submitted it for the review in order to publish it. But it was rejected with the following words: "Comment: press releases and reviews of unclear reliability dont establish notability here." But if you go to References section you'll see that it has several links to reviews on prominent Russian sites. The program is mostly popular in Russian speaking countries, but WP rules don't forbid the links to non-English sites. It has at least 4 links to reliable sites: IXBT.com, Habrahabr, Tom's Hardware and ITC.ua. All of them are quite popular in Russia and other Russian speaking countries. IXBT has a page in ruWP, Habragabr has a page in enWP, Tom's Hardware has a page in enWP, ITC.ua doesn't have a page in neither WP, but it is a project of the ITC Publishing House which published several computer magazines including the "Home PC" magazine that has a page in ruWP and which had a circulation of 40 000 copies per month. Now, how those links cannot be reliable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dante1717mx (talk • contribs) 16:32, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Just because a website is popular and has an article on English Wikipedia or Russian Wikipedia does not mean that the site is generally reliable for use as a reference here on Wikipedia. Examples include the vast majority of the content on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter. Conversely, a source can be of interest to only a few people and lack a Wikipedia article about it and be highly reliable. Examples might be historical journals published by regional universities. Almost all blogs are not considered reliable sources, and the English articles indicate that these sites incorporate blogs and user submitted content. We want sources with professional editorial control and a reputation for accuracy and fact checking. Please review WP:RS for a more detailed description.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  17:41, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * But they are! They have "editorial control and a reputation for accuracy and fact checking", except Habrahabr. Here I found the Wikipedia:Notability (software) article in Russian WP, which clearly states that those three sites are reliable. Now I hope the question is solved and someone can properly review the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dante1717mx (talk • contribs) 19:39, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Each language version of Wikipedia is administered separately, so a source judged reliable by the standards of Russian Wikipedia may or may not be accepted here. Please remove the non-compliant source from your draft and discuss the matter with the AfC reviewer.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  20:34, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Please also note,, that the Russian guideline does not allow press releases from the software company for showing notability, and English Wikipedia also excludes use of press releases for that purpose. Press releases are not independent sources, and neither is a "cut and paste" reprint on other sites.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  20:47, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but why do you consider that link as a reliable source? I mean it is there for proving certain aspects of the software, in this case the release date of the Windows and Mac OS versions and the total number of word entries. What other source can prove such info? Not all reference links are there to prove notability. The one that prove it are the three reviews. The Resident Evil 5 article has 3 links to Capcom's press release (titled "Announcing Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition" in the Reference section) and it poses no problem.Dante1717mx (talk) 21:56, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:THIRDPARTY. Press releases do not help in establishing notability, and their use should be quite limited. Without looking at the Resident Evil article, I would like to say that just because Article A has a certain problem, that does not justify creating Article B with a similar problem. Instead Article A should be fixed, and Article B written properly from the beginning.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  23:22, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Meaning of message at bottom of User Page and why is User page live?
Hi - please help me with my User Page draft for Marisa Lankester - there is a message at the bottom and I am not sure how to get rid of it. Also, why did my User page draft go "live' immediately yesterday while I was composing the first draft (I save it intermittently)and when I click 'preview' - I got a notice yesterday the draft would be deleted without references despite the fact I had just started entering text and was about to put my references in... HELP.KHBibby (talk) 23:21, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi KHBibby, welcome to the Teahouse. Click "Contributions" at top of any page to see your edits. Special:Contributions/KHBibby shows you have created three pages: User:KHBibby/Marisa Lank /draft article, User:KHBibby/sandbox and Marisa Lankester . The last was created yesterday and is not a user page draft. You created it as a live article in the encyclopedia. It sounds like this was not your intention. Would you like it to be moved to a user page where you can work on it in peace until you feel ready to submit it? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:43, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I guess you first referred to the "Cite error" message at the bottom of [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marisa_Lankester&oldid=599900187]. It was there because you used <ref ></ref> after reflist. This is not allowed so I have fixed it.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marisa_Lankester&diff=599935005&oldid=599900187] PrimeHunter (talk) 23:52, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

What Happens If You Forget Dates Of Retrieval When Correcting Sources?
Hello everyone

So i'm finally getting around to correcting my sources. Some of the sources go back a while. What happens if you can't remember the exact date when you retrieved a source?

Thanks Wyliecoyote1990 (talk) 19:21, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Wyliecoyote1990. It's just meant to be a date where an online source contained the referenced content. It doesn't have to be when the source was originally added. If the source contains the content today then put today's date. Or are you referring to sources which are no longer online or have changed content? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm referring to the date when i collected the source for my article. Wyliecoyote1990 (talk) 20:28, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * But does the source still exist at the same url, assuming we are talking about Internet sources? If it still exists then it doesn't matter when you first saw it. Simply place today's date as accessdate. If the source doesn't exist anymore then there are different options depending on circumstances, and we need to know which source it was and what you used it for. And what do you mean by "correcting my sources"? Are you saying the sources had false content, were unreliable, were represented incorrectly, or do you just mean improve formatting of the sources with details like dates, or is it about something else? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:24, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * It's mainly to do with formatting of the sources with dates.Wyliecoyote1990 (talk) 22:32, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry I keep asking but it's critical to the answer: Do the sources still exist, i.e. can they still be accessed today? If you are unable to answer for some reason then can you give an example? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:51, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

The sources still exist and i can still access them. First time creating an actual article you see. Still learning Wyliecoyote1990 (talk) 23:04, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * OK. As mentioned, you can simply ignore when the sources were originally accessed or added and just add today's date as accessdate. The main purpose of the accessdate for online sources is helping editors track down the source if it goes offline, for example enabling the editor to look at an archive from the time. That's also why there should be no accessdate for offline sources like printed books. Any editor can add an accessdate to an existing reference. It doesn't have to be the editor who added the source or somebody who knows when it was. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:31, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks that's solved it. Wyliecoyote1990 (talk) 00:01, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

adding links to support my edit
Hello, I have been making edits on pages but they get taken off due to the links being classed as spam? How else do I support my edits if I can not add links? here is 1 edit that has been refused HERE

I'm trying to learn like everyone else new & using a subject I know about, I'm not close to this company or person, I'm trying to make good of what edits are being taken down. No one can argue that the links are bad and the press coverage is poor as this person & company is very covered world wide in what they do. I feel the pages I'm editing are very key to this info. Its not personal, I'm trying to walk before I run using a subject with great links but not covered on Wikipedia.

The 2 subjects I'm learning on are: Graffiti Kings & artist Darren Cullen please help me somebody.

Sarah1971 (talk) 01:42, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I replied on your talk page and one of the article talk pages. VQuakr (talk) 03:05, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I removed your edit here because it was promotional in tone and the citation link was a dead link. Theroadislong (talk) 08:41, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Theroadislong :) firstly thanks for helping with my 2 subjects xxx. OK regarding edit, will rewording it be OK, less promotional. I think Graffiti Kings really have a place on that page being a commercial graffiti art company, & would give the reader a good idea of what a commercial graffiti art company is, especially as they are the only graffiti art company on Wikipedia. The 2 go hand in hand, fits like a glove. Thanks  Sarah   1971  00:54, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Format for listing references and sources
I've read all the text regarding Wikipedia's preferred method for writing out the sources and references, but it's very confusing to me. Is there a simple sample of this I can go to? Thanks, LukeKenasnow (talk) 06:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello . Please read Referencing for beginners, which explains it all, and even shows you how to test the procedures on your own user talk page, or your sandbox page. Another way to learn is to study the wikicode for a brief article that has a couple of references properly formatted. Among the things to remember is that the code has to be exactly right. For example, opening reference tags are slightly different than closing tags. If you mix them up, your references won't display properly. Also, you need to have a "References" section toward the end of the article, with a proper template in order to display the references.  Cullen <sup style="color:purple;">328  Let's discuss it  06:47, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

I want to make my sandbox into a new encyclopedia page.
Hello, experienced editors. It's nice to communicate you. First of all, I'm a Japanese native writer, so may sometimes write incorrect English. If so, please forgive me.

Anyway, I translated a Wikipedia Japanese page into English in my sandbox. Then I did 1. I made a new article titled "Funassyi (mascot)", and 2. I tried to move from my sandbox to the new "Funassyi (mascot)" page. But something wrong happened. I can see (Redirected from User:Akiko718atWiki) under the title "Wikipedia:Funassyi (mascot)".

I'm stuck. Is this check-mate? I'm panicked a little. I just love Funassyi. I just want to create its English page, and link the page to the Japanese page. Could you please show me how to solve this problem, if there is a solution. Thank you very much in advance. Akiko718atWiki (talk) 07:14, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ I moved it to "article space" at Funassyi (mascot). Before it was in the "project space" where things like this teahouse and our policies are kept. Welcome! If you get a chance, can you post the link to the Japanese language version of this article here or on the article talk page so they can be linked? Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 08:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Choosing submitted articles to review
If at some time in the future I offer to help with reviewing submitted articles, is there a quick way of finding articles in the queue that are on subjects that I can claim expertise in? RoachPeter (talk) 19:24, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Classification of draft articles is possible in the new Draft-space but it isn't implemented yet. We are working on moving the whole AfC process there as soon as possible. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:30, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Referencing
Hi, How do you reference a Journal or PDF file ?? Thank You Aliciaag93 (talk) 10:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse. {{tl|cite web}] works for a PDF if it's online and cite journal should work for a journal. --Jakob (talk) 12:12, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Aliciaag93. For a simple introduction to citing references generally, see this essay. For journals, you can use - click on the link for details. If the journal is online and has a DOI, you can use, which is much quicker and easier (the same goes for journals on JSTOR; use ). Depending on their content, PDFs can be cited in a similar way; if it's a PDF of a journal, use the  template and link to the PDF's URL, if it's a PDF of a newspaper use  etc. Hope this helps. Yunshui  雲 &zwj; 水  12:17, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the help, the journals were very useful -- Aliciaag93 (talk) 13:18, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Viewing images before uploading them to the page
Hello, Is the way of uploading an image and getting feedback about the image first, before submitting it to the page? like being able to put the image in your sandbox first? Natbrock (talk) 09:17, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * @Natbrock:  Hey Natbrock. It depends on whether the image bears a compatible free copyright license (or is public domain), verses a  non-free image intended to be used under a claim of fair use.  A non-free image is not allowed to be displayed anywhere but in the article its fair use is claimed for, once that article actually resides in the article mainspace. In other words, you can't use such an image in a sandbox draft, in an articles for creation draft, or in any other page that starts with a prefix, e.g., "user:", "user talk:", "talk:", "Wikipedia:", etc. You can, however link to such an image without it displaying, and ask people to look at it through the link. A link to an image is made by prefixing a colon inside the brackets, like so:   Note that if the question you want to ask is about the copyright of the image, you can ask such questions at Media copyright questions. However, please note also that it's not a good idea to upload a non-free image until the article its intended to be used in is already in the article mainspace. If the image you intend to upload is online, you could always ask a question about its upload and provide an external link to the outside page where it resides. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:01, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Thankyou very much for your help, I will use the Media copyright questions before uploading the image to the page first Natbrock (talk) 13:25, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

How do I upload from the sandox?
I have an article in my sandbox. I'm not sure if I have tried to upload it, or not, or if there's a waiting time, etc. I's been written for about a week. TIA AlexMcCallum (talk) 14:10, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Alex, welcome to the Teahouse. Put at the top of your sandbox article submission, and eventually it will be reviewed to become an article. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 14:37, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

AFC
Hello, I have recently been interested in Articles for creation, but the thing is, how to review a AFC is confusing. How do you review a AFC on Wikipedia?

Thanks - Happy_Attack_Dog &#34;How`s my reverting? Call 1-800-U-GOT-BLOCKED&#34; (talk) 14:51, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi HA Dog, welcome to the Teahouse. The easiest way to review is to add WikiProject Articles for creation/Helper script. If you want to see exactly what happens to a submission when being accepted or declined, go through the history of such a page - for example you could pick one from Articles for creation/recent and one from Category:Declined AfC submissions.


 * Also read WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions.


 * There are always plenty of submissions awaiting review. Let us know how you get on! Arthur goes shopping (talk) 14:58, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Uploading Company Logo to Wikipedia Page
Hello,

I am interning for a company and trying to upload the company logo on here in order to include it on the Wiki page I am creating. I submitted it to be uploaded a few weeks ago and was denied due to copyright/licensing issues, during which the entire page I created was deleted.

Our logo may be too simple, as I have read on some forums. Here is a link to our company website with the logo at the top (although a bit smaller in size than the version I am trying to upload (which does not exist on the Internet it seems): http://www.hengtiansoft.com/CompanyInfoPage-en-0-5.html. I also read something about using the following two tags when using 'simple' logos:

Anyways, I am very lost, and I really have no idea exactly how to upload this logo.

Thanks,

Ashley

Insigma Hengtian (talk) 08:17, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, welcome to the Teahouse. I am not sure if the logo is in fact too simple to be copyrighted, but if it is, it may be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and tagged with the notices you mentioned.  Anon 126   (talk - contribs) 17:25, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Commercial links
Who do I mention it to if someone has posted 75 references linking to a commercial website on a page? Is this allowed? Jenjhall (talk) 18:36, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Please follow the procedures described in our guideline on spam. Thank you.  Cullen <sup style="color:purple;">328  Let's discuss it  19:26, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

new word
How do I post a definition of a new word? 71.204.137.25 (talk) 20:20, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse. In general, Wikipedia is not the place for neologisms. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:26, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Inserting photographs and infoboxes
Hello to all, I am writing a page on a musician Cypress Grove. All the photographs I have are copyright free because he gave the to me to publish. But I can't seem to make them appear in the draft in my sandbox. I would also like to insert the photograph in an infobox like other musicians have. I would appreciate any help I can get. Athenaathena07 (talk) 12:16, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Athena, welcome to the teahouse. His giving a photograph to you in order for you to publish it on Wikipedia does not make that photograph copyright free.


 * For use on Wikipedia, the copyright status of the photographs can be clarified with the procedure at Donating copyrighted materials and you could upload the images at Wikimedia Commons. They can then be used in articles, including infoboxes. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 12:26, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse. Your problem was that you were trying to use a URL, rather than a wikilink.  If you look at this diff, you will see how I corrected it.  The syntax for images varies between different infoboxes.  If you look at Infobox musical artist, you'll see how that one works. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:29, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. Could you also instruct me on how to place a photograph on the left of the page instead of on the right?Athenaathena07 (talk) 21:04, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Frequent editing/editing in advance
Hello, I’m wondering if there is any policy/guideline in relation to changing the episode numbers for TV show articles on a daily basis for shows that air multiple times per week, and also editing them in advance of their screening date.

The editor in question edits a number of articles every day and usually edits in advance. For example on a Friday he/she will change the episode numbers to include an episode that screens on the following Monday. During the week he/she will change the episode numbers to include an episode that screens the following day. An example of this editing is[| here]. I have asked the editor involved why he/she adopts this practice but I have had no response to date and the editor has made more changes since my query.

I would appreciate any comments on this subject. Thank you Melbourne3163 (talk) 22:14, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . I notice that this is an IP editor without a registered account. Many such editors don't pay much attention to talk page messages. I see no reason why an editor can't update episode numbers daily for a daily show, but I agree that it should not be done in advance of an episode airing. In the grand scheme of things, though, it is a relatively minor quirk, in my opinion.  Cullen <sup style="color:purple;">328  Let's discuss it  06:55, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply and your comments and I do agree this is not an 'earth-shattering' problem. I was mainly concerned about the editing in advance so I have now placed a (visible in edit mode) note in the episode number section of the ten sites the editor changes in advance, asking that the episode count be changed only after the episode has aired. Other than that, I guess it's time to move on. Cheers. Melbourne3163 (talk) 21:40, 17 March 2014 (UTC)