Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 211

Change the "Use in article" field for a fair use image
I incorrectly set the article a fair use image would be used in, how can I change it? DaemonBreed (talk) 18:14, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey DaemonBreed, and welcome to the Teahouse - all you have to do is edit the file page and change the page name in the  parameter, which by the looks of it, you've already taken care of. I noticed you tried to use the file in the Divinity (album) article, but the file wasn't showing up. I've gone ahead and fixed it in accordance to Template:Infobox album's specifications. Unfortunately the exact parameter names vary from infobox to infobox, so you should always check an infobox's documentation to see how to add images, descriptions, etc.
 * Seeing that your file was also tagged for deletion for being orphaned, I've also gone ahead and removed that tag from your file. For future reference, once you've added an orphaned fair use image to an article, you are free to remove the tag. Cheers, ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 18:43, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks

DaemonBreed (talk) 18:47, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Chromatic aberration
In this article there is a picture with a .svg extension which has an error. It has "abberation" instead of "aberration". Whenever I've come across similar errors in .jpg files it has been a simple matter to refer the error to a file mover but with .svg files it's not so easy, in fact it's impossible. Could it be something to do with browsers. It doesn't seem likely, I have several at my disposal and none of them seem to allow me to access the source of files with an .svg extension. Jodosma (talk) 18:36, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Jodosma, in this case a file move isn't needed as the spelling error has been identified previously so File:Chromatic abberration lens diagram.svg is a redirect to File:Chromatic aberration lens diagram.svg, I've bypassed the redirect by changing the link. Nthep (talk) 18:47, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The file was actually moved by Jakec four minutes after OP's post, so I'm assuming that was a result of this convo :) ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 18:59, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Article declined
I have an article on Evolve Manufacturing Technologies that was declined but am not understanding why. There are generic suggestions posted on my account for how to edit to make it better, but these give me little direction. Can anyone help? Thanks!

71.119.182.92 (talk) 20:31, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi IP address and welcome to the Teahouse! I checked your contributions and your only contribution was asking this question. Maybe you forgot to log in. And to answer the 2nd question, the reason why the suggestions were generic is just because its an introduction. You could click on the links there which will lead you to a page that is more specific. Or you can go to List_of_guidelines and click the links there. If you have anything specific to ask about the guidelines, you can always ask here again. Cheers,   TheQ Editor     (Talk) 21:58, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I assume the submission in question is Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Evolve_Manufacturing_Technologies. The reviewer should have pointed you towards the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies rather than the general notability guideline. --LukeSurlt c 23:11, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

where to use citations
I have been looking at high-quality wikipedia articles, and it looks like the introductory section doesn't usually have citations -- they are in the body of the article. The introductory paragraphs are just a summary of what appears later. Is that correct?Ngriffeth (talk) 16:49, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse. Broadly you are correct, see WP:LEDE, & more specifically WP:CITELEAD. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:55, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks David Biddulph, those are very helpful pointers!Ngriffeth (talk) 17:09, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello, . I agree that a well-structured, well-referenced article normally does not need references in the lead section, as long as the claims there are fully referenced in the body of the article. I can think of a couple of exceptions: If the lead contains a quotation, it should be referenced. In my view, the requirement to reference a quotation overrides the stylistic preference to avoid references in the lead. The second exception would be a highly contentious assertion, such as that a living person is a convicted felon or something equivalent. Our policy on biographies of living people is so important that I believe a reference in the lead is justified in such cases.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  05:05, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Huggle Update
Hi!, Some days ago, when was logging in at Huggle, I got a notification for an update from Version 2.1.22 to 2.1.23. I went ahead and all appeared fine until the next time, when the update notification came again. Could somebody tell how could I permanently update it? Zince 34'   09:15, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse! You might want to post your question over at the official Huggle feedback page. They know a lot more about Huggle than we do.  Whispe ring  16:13, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Great! I'll post it there. ! Zince  34'   09:30, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Abusive posts
Apologies if this is an easy answer. we have noticed a user is posting abusive posts (with regard to our organisation and partner organisation) and we need to talk with someone to block this user StokeOnTrentCollege (talk) 11:41, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * You can warn them on their user talk page, then if the vandalism continues you can report them at WP:AIV. Note that your usr name is not acceptable, as it implies that it represents an organisation, not an individual.  Please read WP:CORPNAME, and then choose a new user name to represent you as an individual. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:51, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ay up Duck. Vandalism to articles can be controlled to a greater or lesser extent by the use of Page protection or simply by undoing the edits.  I don't see anything on the article on the college or the one on the sixth form, so you going to have to be more specific about which article if you feel more action than simply undoing the edits is required.  If you think the article or articles need more protection than that and the undesired content is coming from more than one user, you can request it at Requests for page protection. Nthep (talk) 11:58, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

First edit - what's the correct process please?
Hi there, I just joined yesterday and want to do my first edit. My question is: do I just add my edit "suggestion" to the talk page & wait for someone to action it? Do I set out the reasons why I believe a particular section should be edited & how long should I wait for a response? OR do I just edit the article?

ALSO is there any way I can check whether my edit is acceptable before I post it? Thanks for your help. Kolahana (talk) 13:10, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Kolahana. You're encouraged to be bold in editing Wikipedia. The worst case scenario is that another user disagrees with your edits and reverts them - at which point, you can have a discussion with them over the best way to present the information. Generally, though, as long as you back up your changes with reliable sources, you should have no difficulties. Happy editing! Yunshui 雲 水 13:14, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Another aspect of editing, Kolahana, is to write a brief edit summary explaining your edit. For article edits, you could write something like "Adding new information to infobox", "Correcting inaccuracy", "Fixing a table", "Typo", "Copyediting", "Adding a source to a statement", etc. Then, if someone has a question about your edits, you've left a justification for your change. Sometimes edits can be reverted because, to the next editor, it's not clear why the change was made so leaving an explanation helps them see why you made the edit.
 * If you look at the edit history of a page, you can see the variety of edit summaries other editors have provided so you can get an idea of what would be appropriate. Liz  Read! Talk! 13:43, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

My article was declined
Baloydi Lloydi 02:29, 22 May 2014 (UTC) My article was declined. Your guidance is great help. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jinisys_Software_Inc.

Thanks --Baloydi Lloydi 03:42, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Baloydi Lloydi 02:29, 22 May 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordzden (talk • contribs)


 * Your article has no references (sources). References are needed on Wikipedia to backup statements and information. If you can find some sources that give you information, then add them along with the information! See Help:Referencing for beginners for help with adding references, I've added some links to find sources at the end of this message.   Acalycine ( talk / contribs ) 06:17, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse, this is probably your first submission and the reason it is declined is because you have not provided any sources to your article. Thus the reviewer is not able to verify the notability of the organisation you written about. Gather secondary references for all the claims made in the article and resubmit it so that the reviewer can verify it. Read WP:ORG for details of what makes an organisation notable. Read Help:Referencing for beginners too for help in referencing.Abhinav0908 (talk) 06:24, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for welcoming, I will post my update soon. --Baloydi Lloydi 08:02, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * , : hello, can you check if these references can be accepted. I gathered them deep on the web. Sources from an education site, newspaper, government websites and SAP and Cisco sites. Thanks --Baloydi Lloydi 08:26, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, i have added references to your draft. What i found was mostly primary sources, though i have added a secondary sources which covers a lot of claims you have made in your draft. Try to find a few more sources and add it inside the article, take a look at Help:Referencing for beginners again.Abhinav0908 (talk) 14:44, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Just found that you are SEO at Jinsys so you are not allowed to edit the draft or submit it. Read Conflict of Interest for further details.Abhinav0908 (talk) 14:49, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Article deleted
Hi all, I recently tried to create an article for BlueMountain.com and it was deleted (for A7, a website not meeting the notability guidelines). I do believe it meets the wikipedia standard (it played an integral role in the early internet, had multiple corporate mergers with evaluations and is still very popular). I sourced every fact (with both internal and very reputable external references) and it is from a neutral perspective. I haven't been able to get any feedback from the editor who removed it (I left a a comment on his talk page) and was wondering if you could provide some guidance. I have a draft in my sandbox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lgrabowski/sandbox, if you would like to take a look. Lgrabowski (talk) 14:28, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You've done a nice job gathering sources and formatting the article. /But we don't use dot com in our titles or text unless the sources specify that so take that out of the text. Personally I don't think it qualifies for speedy deletion under A7 but its notability is marginal. I think your text belongs in the Blue Mountain Arts article, which as deleted in 2009.   . I suggest you create a more expansive article on Blue Mountain Arts and include the Blue Mountain subsidiary in that context. Leave me a message on my talk page if you want more guidance.-- — Keithbob •  Talk  • 19:25, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

citations and copy written material?
I really don't understand what is wrong with my draft - it asks for a citation... which I provided Mimi208.250.65.157 (talk) 13:53, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure I understand your question. Your only contributions appear to be to Corcoran Gallery of Art, and aside from a small error in formatting the reference (which I have now fixed), I don't see any problem.  Philg88 ♦talk 14:03, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Mimi, are you registered under another name? If so, were you just not signed in? Or does your IP address change? By that I mean are you always 208.250.65.157 when you edit? I make edits from libraries sometimes and this means my IP address is different for each edit if I am not signed in.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:34, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

My all edit was deleted.
Hi, I edited the article of some IT devices and I found all my edit was deleted by Andy. I understand what he's saying. SO, I also erased the website link from picture description of wekimedia.

In this situation, Can't I edit with some image (with article)? I wanna show some examples about batteries for specific IT devices. If I edit like I said, this case also be counted as advertisement?

And I saw some companies make an article regarding their companies or products, like CR2032 from button cell(<- CR2032 is Panasonic product). So, I just edited PD2032 like their format.

I don't know what is difference with mine.

Please answer what is the precise rule of Wikipedia.Betty Jeong (talk) 01:09, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. When you mention an editor named "Andy", please be aware that we have several active editors with "Andy" as part of their user name. Please mention editors by their complete usernames, at least the first time you mention them. You seem to be here mostly to insert images of Route JD batteries in as many articles as possible. That would be widely considered as promotional or spam activity. You don't have to answer, but many people would wonder if you work for that company or a PR company it has hired. If I am wrong in raising this suspicion, I apologize. If I am correct, please read about conflict of interest, and do your best to comply with those ethical standards.


 * Why are you here editing Wikipedia? If your sincere goal is to improve the encyclopedia, then you will have many friends to help you learn about editing. I hope that is the case. If you are here to promote your employer's interests, then I am afraid that the road ahead may well be tough for you.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  04:33, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You said "some companies make an article regarding their companies or products". They are not supposed to. All articles about notable companies are supposed to be created by people with no connection with the companies.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:45, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I think I see the problem. Your company's product might need its own article, though you wouldn't be able to edit that either if you are connected with the company. But then the product might not meet the requirements. Instead, you were adding to other articles where you thought it might be a worthwhile edit, but User:Andy Dingley seemed to disagree, and he was probably right because by doing this on so many articles, what you were doing was seen as promoting. I'm not sure why one (CR2032) is allowed but not the other (PD2032).— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:58, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Editing James Le Jeune
Hello, Please can you help with editing James Le Jeune, there are a couple of links attributed to Paul Henry, another artist that need to be taken out and Le Jeunes Birthday is 24th not 25th. I changed this but it was unchanged and now I can't do it. Thank you. Enuejel (talk) 08:46, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, Enuejel, and welcome to The Teahouse. I don't know what you mean by Paul Henry and another artist needing to be taken out. The birth date, though, I can explain. You need to find a reliable source that says the 24th, and Who's Who does not qualify since the people who are in it pay to be there.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 21:25, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Vchimpanzee, Ok the date needs verifying,.  Also links 7 and 8 refer to another Artist, Paul Henry, which I feel is totally irrelevant. I think they need taking out. Thanks for your help.Enuejel (talk) 21:49, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Submitted Article
Hi, I recently submitted a new article with a lot of sources. However, it says that it could take up to a month to review. I was wondering if there's any way to get this approved quicker.

Link to the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Berkeley_Forum

Thanks in advance!

Sergeymann (talk) 23:36, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . I took a look and saw some glaring problems with your draft. The higher quality sources, like the major newspapers you've cited, give no significant coverage to the Berkeley Forum. Instead, they either don't mention the group at all, or mention it only in passing in connection with a speech by Rand Paul. Other references include coverage in the Daily Californian. There is general agreement here that coverage in college newspapers does not establish notability of topics related to that college/university. This group is only about 14 months old, and unless sourcing to establish notability is outstanding, I think that many editors would conclude that it is too soon for a Wikipedia article about this group.  Cullen <sup style="color:purple;">328  Let's discuss it  04:49, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Sergeymann, it looks like you chose to move your draft article into the main space of the encyclopedia and bypass the AfC review. I don't think it will be marked for speedy deletion, but realize that it is now subject to evaluation and editing by any and all editors. Please continue to work on it to improve it. Liz  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 14:19, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Liz, I apologize for the confusion here but I was not the one that moved it into the article space – I in no way bypassed the AfC review. Someone else (User:JustBerry) moved it. I have no connection to this user and I just assumed that it had been approved by a different editor. In regards to the comments posted on this thread earlier (especially about the "glaring problems"), I disagree with them. The newspaper articles do not mention the group simply 'in passing' but instead have entire articles about an event that the group put together – in fact, the group's logo was featured on the New York Times' cover (links 13 & 14).--Sergeymann (talk) 14:33, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, there is some good news there. I know that JustBerry reviews AfC submissions so I'm guessing he thought the article was ready. I would think you'd get a notice but I guess that doesn't always happen. Hopefully, he'll see the pings and reply here. Liz  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 15:08, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, I should have left a reply on the last ping; sorry, I forgot. Is there an issue? --JustBerry (talk) 15:09, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The New York Times article in question is about a speech at Berkeley given by Ron Paul. It is not about the group sponsoring the speech, . Yes, the group's logo is on the podium but the subject of the photo is Paul not the group. The group is mentioned in passing once, without any description whatsover. A reader doesn't know if it is a new or an old group, and on-campus or an off-campus group, student led or not. Nothing. The New York Times article contributes nothing to the notability of the group, as that requires significant coverage. The other major newspaper articles are much the same, in that they are about the Paul speech, not the group. The group does not inherit notability from its brief association with Paul.  Cullen <sup style="color:purple;">328  Let's discuss it  01:55, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Copyright checker tools
Are there any tools like Reflink or Checklink that will check an article for plagiarism? EvergreenFir (talk) 03:24, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. You can use the WMF Duplication detector, which will compare two pages for copyright problems, i.e. the source page and the Wikipedia article.  Philg88 ♦talk 04:25, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you! EvergreenFir (talk) 04:26, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Submission of an article about Meerut Heroes
I have to post an article about the Award named Meerut Heroes for the one who have done a great deed for their fellow citizens but have never been given their due. I have already written an article named 'Meerut Heroes'. If this is correct then let me write something more about it. 14.102.54.59 (talk) 04:26, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. I can't find any trace of an article that you have created on Wikipedia, so I cannot comment on its suitability. Please create the article either in your sandbox or visit the articles for creation page and click the "Click here to create an article now!" button. Once you have done that please post another message here. Good luck!  Philg88 ♦talk 05:41, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Table within a template contains a bug that has found a good hiding spot
I'm still learning how to do this well. I've created a Template:MLLCareerStats to present career statistics for players in Major League Lacrosse. Unfortunately, the template produces a series of 50 pipes followed by zeroes above the table. I entered a very simple set of data in my sandbox. Instead of 50 pipes and zeroes, I got 2 pipes and zeroes, followed by 4 pipes without zeroes, followed by 44 pipes and zeroes. The sum remains 50 which is a bit of a magic number in the template. Each statistical category can have up to 50 different values - 25 seasons of regular-season values and 25 seasons of playoff values. So, I am fairly certain it has something to do with an error I made with regard to one of those statistical categories. However, two days of searching for the error has proven fruitless. So, I hope someone better at this than me can find it. Thank you in advance for your help. Taxman1913 (talk) 03:28, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Update: I added another set of data to my sandbox. It produced 4 pipes followed by zeroes, followed by 6 pipes without zeroes, followed by 40 pipes followed by zeroes. Again, the pattern doesn't reveal to me where the error might be. Comparing the two outputs with the two data sets doesn't help either. Taxman1913 (talk) 04:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Update: I entered a third set of data. I think I may have found the pattern. It may be two different statistical categories both of which are playoff categories. Taxman1913 (talk) 04:15, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Update: Two of my statistical categories are being printed above the table and not included in the table itself. I now know which two they are. I didn't notice them right away, because they were both zeroes in the first few data sets I tested. I just need to figure out what I did differently for those two variables than for all the others. I think I can figure this out. I'll post again either with a victory or surrender. Taxman1913 (talk) 05:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Update: VICTORY!!! Maybe I just needed to use this space to help me organize my thoughts and solve the problem. Taxman1913 (talk) 05:46, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

upload picture with new article
Hello, Im about to upload a new article but would like to upload it with a photo and am struggling to figure out how! Can anyone offer some assistance? Thanks :)Ecyossef1 (talk) 11:15, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ecyossef1, can you be more specific about what you mean by "uploading" an article? Do you mean you have been writing a draft of an article and you want to cut and paste it to Wikipedia and submit it as a new article? Because, unlike files like photographs or illustrations, articles are not uploaded.
 * There are two options for uploading files; you can decide which works best. If the image is being used under fair use guidelines, then you must use the File Upload Wizard. If you own the image, you can upload it either through the file upload wizard or to The Wikimedia Commons, a database of freely usable media files to which anyone can contribute. Be sure to review the information concerning image copyright. Once you have uploaded the image, you go to the page you want to add it to, and click the little picture icon in the edit wizard, and follow the template there. Liz  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 13:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Liz,

Thanks for your reply. Yes I have been working on a draft article and just tried the link you posted but its saying im an unconfirmed user. From my research I have to make 10 edits before I can upload images - is this accurate? Thanks again, Emily Ecyossef1 (talk) 06:12, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Template spelling/linking help
I'm trying to update pages involving mass transit in Seoul. One of the problems is the official spelling of a line is different than what was used on Wikipedia for some time. I fixed the main article page (long time ago) and am back going through the "pages that link to" with the incorrect spelling. The brick wall I have run into (of possibly several) involves templates. This page Jeongja Station is a great example. The infobox and a template at the bottom link to "Sinbundang Line" when the spelling is "Shinbundang Line".
 * Edit One of my 3 template issues was fixed.  Woohoo~

The Infobox is "Infobox SMS station" and the line of code is "line_2 = sbd" template at the bottom is s-line|system=SMS|line=Sinbundang Line|previous=Pangyo

I did edit Template:Seoul Metropolitan Subway stations and now that template page shows the correct spelling, but refreshing Jeongja Station isn't showing the correct spelling.

Any help would be appreciated and thank you in advance :) ₪Rick n Asia₪ 06:54, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse. Have a look again at Jeongja Station, as I purged it using this link. Although Template:Seoul Metropolitan Subway stations is displaying the later spelling, two places still use the old one, including the link on to Template:SMS color.  If you want to change everything to be consistent, you'll need to be careful to change other places that call up each template.  With some, such as Template:SMS color, you may be able to do the changes a stage at a time by including both alternatives as a temporary measure until all the pages which call the template have been updated.  For other changes you would need to address things like Template:S-line/SMS left/Sinbundang Line and Template:S-line/SMS right/Sinbundang Line, but again you might be able to tackle the transition by including templates for the 2 names in parallel as a temporary measure. Template changes need to be tackled with caution, as they can upset many pages.  Be careful to use the "What links here" facility to check each case where you are changing things. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:37, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. I was able to add a new entry to Template:SMS color but will not delete the old one: as you mentioned the cascade of pages that could be affected. I might go to all the pages and update the code, but as the old spelling isn't shown to readers it is low priority for me now. Basically finished.


 * I made new pages for Template:S-line/SMS left/Sinbundang Line and Template:S-line/SMS right/Sinbundang Line with the correct spelling and updated all pages that used those two templates. Finished.


 * I tried to update "sbd" within Template:Infobox_SMS_station but it looks like I only updated the documentation. Do I need to have special privileges to edit that template? Ideas? ₪Rick n Asia₪ 08:28, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hopefully to Template:Infobox SMS station/line will have cured it without upsetting anything, but you might want to check. It's often a case of having to look at the template code to see which other templates it calls up. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:39, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * That did it. Thank you very much!  ₪Rick n Asia₪ 06:22, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Help!
I started writing this article last year. I did research on what other law firms had written and submitted in December. I quickly found that I had no idea what I was getting myself into. The article was denied and I began my research on how to make it work. I spent several months finding resources and fixing my document. I reached out several times for help - with the help of a few very helpful editors on wiki, finally resubmitted. I was given a very vague reason for decline "readability" so I took out some of the narrative and added line breaks and resubmitted. I was declined again with the same general response as the first time. Neutral Party and Resources. I went to several law firm pages and put in information they had listed and used several of their resources (best lawyers, lawyers.com, Martindale Hubbel, google books, law school publications, etc.) I could really use some help! I am happy to hand this off to someone else to write if you can tell me how to get in touch with such a person, as I understand I can not "pay" someone to do it. I am willing to do whatever it takes. I just need more direction and help. Thanks in advance! My draft can be viewed here. Draft:Shuttleworth & Ingersoll, P.L.C. EpiphanyVP (talk) 18:27, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I'm afraid you are under a misapprehension. "Other law firms" did not create articles about themselves in Wikipedia (or if they did, they were equally misguided), and you are strongly advised not to do so about your company. The draft has been rejected for reading like an advertisement, and I wholly agree with that judgment - if you cannot see this, that is precisely why editors are discouraged from editing articles where they have a conflict of interest. I do realise that you are asking for help, but the way you express your question above still sounds to me as if you are thinking of it as "your" article that you are getting somebody to help with, and that we should have such an article because other law firms have articles, so you want one; in other words, for promotional purposes. I am not sure what to advise you. I have neither the knowledge nor the interest in working on such an article, Your draft will not get deleted just because it has failed review, and perhaps asking here is the best chance of finding somebody who will be willing to work on it. But I would advise you to back off from it, and remember that there is no deadline on Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 18:58, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I think EpiphanyVP is making a good faith plea for help. I don't see any bad faith or ownership issues based on what he has written above. He/she is new to WP processes and they are reaching out for help. EVP, drop me a note on my talk page and we'll work together on the article. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#085;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 19:10, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Even if he is expressing a real please for help. There is a problem. "I currently work at Shuttleworth & Ingersoll PLC" from his profile. He needs to back of from the article right now as he does have a conflict of interest. NathanWubs (talk) 05:59, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Current practice is that it is acceptable for editors with a conflict of interest to submit articles to the Articles for Creation draft process; they are only strongly discouraged from editing the page directly once it is accepted as a Wikipedia article. This does not mean that the draft should be accepted while it has promotional wording, of course - it is the task of the reviewer to only accept it when it does not have promotional wording, undue emphasis or any other problems. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:31, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Article decilined
Hello everyone. An article form mine, titled "Welcome Chinese" has been rejected with two different meassages from two different people. Is this the right place to ask for more detailed explaination? So I will try to improve the article with a clear mind HeavyRiff (talk) 08:19, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. The problem with your article is that nearly all the references you cite are not about the company but about how the hotel/travel industry is welcoming visitors from China. Your article needs to cite independent reliable sources that provide in depth coverage of Welcome Chinese and therefore show why it is notable. Unless you can do that, I'm afraid the article will not be accepted.  Philg88 ♦talk 08:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Proof Read
Hello Everyone, Thank you again for your support before on my previous questions- Now, if anyone has time would you proof read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cynthia_Coffman_Politician and let me know if I should submit this article for review? Any feedback would be really appreciated!! JSOR11 (talk) 00:57, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi JSOR11, and welcome to the Teahouse. Your draft looks great with some minor problems with the references.It isn't formatted correctly but it could be fixed easily. Once you click edit, click cite at the top right corner. Press templates and choose cite web. Fill in the blanks and the computer will take over. Cheers,   TheQ Editor     (Talk) 02:24, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * It looks fine to me. Go ahead and submit it for review, although it may take some time to get processed as there is currently a significant backlog of articles awaiting review. Philg88 ♦talk 05:46, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi JSOR11, the draft seems prepared for submission according to me. You can submit it and it shall be approved when reviewed.Abhinav0908 (talk) 08:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your help everyone! JSOR11 (talk) 14:33, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Basics, Just Getting Started
I am new to wikipedia and I am looking to create a wikipedia page for a publishing company. Do you have any advice or guidance on how to begin (other than what is already found on the linked pages)? Thanks! Rdbhakta (talk) 17:57, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Rdbhakta, welcome to the Teahouse! Three pieces of advice:
 * Look at other Wikipedia articles on publishing companies and see how they're structured.
 * Make sure the publishing company you want to write about meets our notability guidelines
 * Use Article wizard to guide you through the steps of creating an article.
 * Hope this helps a bit! -- Neil N  <sup style="color:blue;">talk to me  19:04, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

What does "Move to draft space" mean?
Move to draft space

I can't find anything to explain what that means. Thanks for your help!

58chevy (talk) 17:53, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse. Your draft was previously at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/California Innocence Project, which was the appropriate location under the old system for AFC drafts, but it was moved to Draft:California Innocence Project, as the Draft: namespace is the intended future location for such drafts.  Note that there is a redirect from the old location. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:06, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

title change
I'm trying to remove my middle name from title of my article from Douglas Richard Ferguson to Douglas Ferguson, how do I do this? thank you - Douglas Ferguson Douglas Ferguson (talk) 12:17, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Douglas. There are a number of other notable Douglas Fergusons on Wikipedia, so unfortunately the title "Douglas Ferguson" has to remain a disambiguation page. What we can do is rename your article Douglas Ferguson (artist) and add it to the list at the disambiguation page; this gives anyone searching Wikipedia for your name an easy way to loacte the article about you. I'll go and make these changes now. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 12:22, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm a little concerned about the photograph used in the article [] it says that it is "© Anne Deniau" ? Theroadislong (talk) 12:24, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I've reported the magazine images in this article for copyright investigation. Douglas Ferguson, if these turn out to be unsuitable, I'm sure that you must have some pictures of your work which you have taken yourself or to which you own the copyright, and may be willing to donate. Please also note that a large amount of unverified and non-neutrally written material was removed from the draft of this article before it was accepted; if you plan to continue editing this article yourself (which is not recommended, since it's a conflict of interest), be sure to back up every addition with an independent, reliable source. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 12:33, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * thank you for changing the title to Douglas Ferguson (artist) Douglas Ferguson (talk) 12:53, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * hi Yunshi, the photo of me was taken by the photographer Anne Deniau, so, by adding the copyright to her name I am merely trying to honor her and respect her work. thank you! Douglas Ferguson (talk) 12:55, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * yes, I noticed the Avedon Revlon photo was removed? am not sure why? otherwise, there should be no copyright issues with magazine photos, if so, am happy to provide with photos of my own.... thank you Douglas Ferguson (talk) 12:57, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * actually, I noticed this block of text somehow has replaced the box image for the Avedon Revon ad "[[File:DouglasFerguson RichardAvedon Revlon,1985.jpg|thumb|alt=Example alt text|Models including Iman and Jerry Hall wearing Ferguson's hand-enameled chainmail in a Revlon advertisement."


 * forgive me, I'm a bit slow at figuring all of this out, thank you, DF Douglas Ferguson (talk) 12:59, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Douglas. The Anne Deniau image has now been deleted. Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons can only accept textual additions or images that are free for reuse. By uploading a copyrighted image to Wikimedia Commons, you are effectively saying, "Anyone can reuse, alter or sell this image, for any purpose, in perpetuity." Since you are not the copyright holder, doing so is a violation of the photographer's copyright, even if you credit her on the File description page. Unless Anne Deniau has explicity released the copyright to you (in which case, see WP:DCM for details of how to donate it to Wikipedia) or has released it under a CC-BY-SA free licence (in which you will need to get her to email WP:OTRS to confirm it), you cannot upload it, either here or at Wikimedia Commons. Sorry to be so officious about it, but copyright violations have real-life legal ramifications, and so have to be dealt with correctly. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 13:50, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Douglas Ferguson! As Anne has mentioned, it would be awesome if you could provide some photographs of your work for use in the article. There are some lovely shots of your designs on your website that I'm assuming you own the rights to, and could be used without concerns in the article if you are happy to release them to Wikipedia images. I enjoyed working on your article and learned so much about your work from it. Mabalu (talk) 20:51, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

RFA
hello, I am trying to submit a RFA for another Person, But I can not seem to Get all the Templates (Like Subst:SUBUSERPAGE, etc. ), How should I do it?

Happy Attack Dog ( Bark! Bark! ) 12:34, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi HAD. If you create the page via the automated process at Requests for adminship/Nominate, it will fill in the template information for you. Just follow the instructions there. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 12:41, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Please do not create an RfA for someone else. If you do, and they accept, they will probably be opposed for poor judgement.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  23:27, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Requesting mediation on errant review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Paul Julian (meteorologist)
The draft article I came onto, to assist in its improvement, is here:. It appears from the Talk at that location, that the most recent rejecting Administrator reviewed not this, the latest revision (the only one that I have worked on), but rather re-reviewed an earlier twice-rejected draft. He was likely and understandably angered by being asked to re-review a shabby piece of work. (The earlier had three citations, one a dead URL, and was rejected for these citation issues.) ''But the recent and valid draft for review (that hasn't been reviewed) has 16 citations, an added infobox, sections and TOC, etc., see the link provided. This submission has to be good enough for a starting stub, is it not?'' (It was patterned after long-standing meteorologist articles that are already in place.). How do I get a timely objective review of this draft article, that actually looks at the full review-ready draft (at the link)? Please, editor/administrators, facilitate in any way that you can, including by pressing the correct button to prompt a review. I am a content expert, not a wikitech person. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 23:53, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

how do you create titles for articles and categories for articles?
I've read through lots of the Wikipedia editing pages and I can't figure out these two questions. I've just posted an article for review through my sandbox and I have several others that I've written in Word and would like to get on Wikipedia - but I'm stumped when it comes to creating titles in Wiki and categories in Wiki.

Thanks for any help.

KXF (talk) 16:10, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello, KXF! You can create a second sandbox to start working on another article by typing this in the search box at the top of the page: User:KFX/Sandbox2 and press enter. Then you'll see an option to start the page. Select it, type some text,  add an edit summary something like "starting a draft about (your topic)", and save the page. Also, you can create user pages that are not called "sandbox" the same way if you already have a title in mind; for example, User:KXF/The answer to Life, the Universe and Everything. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 23:58, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * PS - I wouldn't worry about categories for now for your drafts, because they are not added until the draft is in the main encyclopedia. Also, there are "New page patrollers" who come along and add categories to these new pages.  To add them to articles, click the little plus sign at the end of the list of categories (if any). The start  typing what you think would  be a good category.  However, you have to pick from the list that comes up as you type - don't invent your own, because many hours of discussion have gone into the categorization system. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 00:07, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Inappropriate responses to appropriate edits
For the first time recently, I edited a Wikipedia article which I knew by personal experience and from officially recorded information, contained an important inaccuracy. I believe I used the correct process allowed by Wikipedia to make an edit. I have today noticed two messages which I assume were directed to me, and which state that I am or will be barred from editing (presumably due to some failure on my part in my sole edit). Given the content of those messages I found them not just to be inappropriate but genuinely offensive and I regard the matter as unwarranted personal attack given that the edit I made is demonstrably correct and done using what I believe to be the correct method. Has anyone else had this experience, and if so, is there by any way that a bullying response to a proper edit can be given proper and remedial attention in order to maintain the integrity and reputation of this website - or is it another where anonymous online thugs have come to rule? 92.19.8.116 (talk) 09:51, 18 May 2014 (UTC)


 * You've received two warnings on your talk page, because you added poorly referenced or unsourced information onto the biography of a living person. We don't tolerate doing that at Wikipedia and so you were blocked after receiving the warnings. I really don't see these as personal attacks. You can appeal the block but read this guide first. Acalycine ( talk / contribs ) 11:02, 18 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Acalycine I suspect that he is on another ip, then he normally uses. Or another account. Else he made this topic a year after the incident occurred. Check the dates. So if that is the case I would like to know the ip or his username that he normally uses. So that we could look into it. NathanWubs (talk) 11:12, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Damnit, I'm an idiot. It's so close to today's date so I thought it was recent. They aren't much of a personal attack though. Sorry for the misunderstanding and thanks. Acalycine ( talk / contribs ) 12:13, 18 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, person posting from . If you look at the bottom of your talk page User Talk:92.19.8.116, you'll see it says "This is the discussion page for an IP user, identified by the user's numerical IP address. Some IP addresses change periodically, and may be shared by several users. If you are an IP user, you may create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other IP users. Registering also hides your IP address".
 * As NathanWubs points out, those messages on your talk page are from a year ago, and aimed at another person who then had the IP address that you are now editing from (since you say you've only just started editing it can't have been you). So you can safely ignore them; and if you want to avoid such an experience in the future, you could create an account. --ColinFine (talk) 11:34, 18 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The computer may be from an Internet café or it may be hacked by an unknown editor, and I told Materialscientist about it already. -- Nahnah4 |  Any thoughts? Pen 'em down here!  09:24, 20 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Am I missing something, or were we—apart from Colin—chatting among ourselves, and ignoring the person, at the IP, that is posting? Were we expressing bias against an IP editor unnecessarily? (And against clear WP policy?) And were we casting AGF to the wind? The whole tone of this, early, was not what I would expect at a Teahouse, and I find it disturbing. Le Prof  Leprof 7272 (talk) 00:16, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Badges
Hi everyone, I was wondering what a Wikipedia Adventure badge would do ? Thanks a lot for answering me. picapicacuckoo (talk) 00:32, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Totally overwhelmed with the process
I need help with my submission (Tlaxcalteca Nation and Affiliated Tribes) and would appreciate a simple explanation of what I need to correct.

Sincerely

TeddyVenado55 (talk) 22:52, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * @Venado55:  Hi Teddy. The page was a copy and paste of the content at this site and thus was required to be deleted as a copyright violation. It is important to understand that articles should be verifiable to reliable sources but they must not copy the content of those sources (although short quotes in quotation marks are allowed if you cite the source). In short, you must write content in your own words. When I say "cite" I am taking about providing evidence of sources that verify the information. Lack of citations to reliable sources was one of the main reasons the reviewers provided for not accepting the article. So if you start the article again I suggest you read first Help:Referencing for beginners, which explains how to cite sources. One further suggestion is to refrain from writing the content and then try to find sources for it, but rather to find sources first, see what they say, and then write the content (in your own words) that the sources verify. I know you feel overwhelmed and I know it can be discouraging to see the article zapped, but you can do this.  The subject seems worthy of an article and people were pitching in to help your prior submission, and they will again. I will too, if you contact me. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:44, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Unresearched proposals
People are discussing blocking me from editing based on my unresearched proposals but I keep on writing in the proposals section when ever I don't see how a modification to that idea could be made and it seems worthy of consensus polling so it didn't seem to make sense to tell me to put all my future ideas into the idea lab here. I'm wondering if there would have been nothing wrong with this proposal if I hadn't steated my unresearched good reasons for that feature and only stated that some people just want a specific project page as a reason. I'm afraid that once I get a topic ban, it could end up permanent if after the ban, I can't find a way to learn how to judge whether an edit is likely enough to be a bad edit that I shouldn't make that edit. How can I learn that? Where can I find the discussion about blocking me to see why I'm discussed being blocked? Blackbombchu (talk) 17:58, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello . If there was a formal discussion about a topic ban or a block, then you would have received a notice on your talk page. What I see is one editor expressing concern and mentioning a topic ban as a possibility. What I recommend is that you try to take to heart the criticisms that have been offered and in particular, stop creating unreferenced articles. If your proposals aren't getting support, perhaps it would be wise to do much more research before bringing them forward for discussion.  Cullen <sup style="color:purple;">328  Let's discuss it  19:55, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I already learned not to create unreferenced articles. Only the first and third article of all 8 I created were unreferenced when I created them. I think my real problem is creating unresearched proposals, articles on non-notable topics, and articles with only unreliable sources. Blackbombchu (talk) 20:17, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, then,, here are some additional recommendations: do not put forward any more "unresearched proposals". Spend a lot of time studying about notability, until you gain the confidence about what qualifies a topic as notable here on Wikipedia. You may find the more lengthy debates at Articles for Deletion useful to read, as the question of notability is often the central issue there. Do not begin any articles unless you are highly confident that the topic is notable. Study how Wikipedia defines a reliable source until you are confident that you can identify a reliable source and distinguish between a reliable source and one that is marginal. Reading a large number of threads on the Reliable sources noticeboard may prove worthwhile. You will see how stringent experienced editors can be about the quality of sources.  Cullen <sup style="color:purple;">328  Let's discuss it  04:17, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

I have a website that I copied the about us page of and was rejected by the wiki bot.
Is there anyway to get around this?

I could rewrite the content, but I actually like the content drafted, and want to use it.

Sami

Sshaban (talk) 13:38, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Absolutely not, I'm afraid. Wikipedia can only accept free or original content; it is technically illegal to add copyrighted text like this to Wikipedia. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 13:44, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * To be clear, I own the website that I copied the information from.

Rather than retype what I have on my own website, I copy and pasted it into wiki. Is that not allowed?

Sshaban (talk) 14:15, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Not when your website hosts a clear copyright message at the bottom of each page. If you want to reuse the text on Wikipedia, the best way to do so is to update your site with a clear CC-BY-SA licence notice. Bear in mind though, that this allows anybody to reuse the content of that page, even sell it, as long as they attribute it back to you. Releasing something under CC-BY-SA is also not something you can retract, so once it's done, anybody can reuse and alter your work in perpetuity.
 * It's also worth noting that since you have a conflict of interest, you probably shouldn't be writing this article anyway. If you are determined to persist, you will need to adhere closely to the best practice guidelines for conflicted editors. Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 14:32, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Also the content here is very promotional in tone and would be likely to be deleted again as advertising, unless you can re write it and provide WP:Reliable sources Theroadislong (talk) 14:36, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * This is illegal.Even if is not rejected by a bot,someone can tag it with copyvio.106.38.250.210 (talk) 05:03, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Better source request for .Jpg (?)
I posted a picture of myself on my page for my bio and I am beiing asked for a better source. The source in from my website and I own the picture taken by my assistant. What can I do to provide a better source? There is no Copyright. Brendon Myles Carroll (talk) 05:29, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Why do you say that there is "no copyright"? Every photo posted online is copyrighted unless there is a specific written release of the photo into the public domain. If your website is copyrighted, then any photo that appears on your website is copyrighted unless your website explicitly releases images into the public domain. Does it? Do you have a written contract with your assistant that states that person gives up copyright to any photos taken while in your employment? If so, how do we know that's true? Copyright law is complex, and we expect that releases into the public domain, or releases under an acceptable Creative Commons license, be done in writing and in an open and transparent way. Feel free to ask a followup question.  Cullen <sup style="color:purple;">328  Let's discuss it  05:42, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * On another matter, your user page is written in a style that simulates an encyclopedia article about you. This is not appropriate. Your user page is a place for you to describe yourself as a Wikipedia editor including your plans and accomplishments related to the encyclopedia. It is not supposed to be a general autobiography, as this is widely seen as self-promotional.  Cullen <sup style="color:purple;">328  Let's discuss it  05:48, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

WHO WILL/CAN COMPLETE MY EFFORT TO EDIT A SECTION OF "WILD WEASEL'?76.7.106.210 (talk) 21:45, 23 May 2014 (UTC)plumalley
I am a valid source of 50 year old events. I have tried to edit a section of "Wild Weasel"

lacking, really, all knowledge of your procedures. No, it a too old to make a "thing " of this76.7.106.210 (talk) 21:45, 23 May 2014 (UTC)plumalley) 76.7.106.210 (talk) 21:45, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately, no one is allowed to cite personal knowledge as a source. Since all but a few editors are anonymous, there would be no way to verify whether they are truly an expert or just someone adding in hoaxes and pretending to be an expert. It's also impossible for anyone to fact-check personal knowledge. So it's best just to find a source that could be verified with reasonable ease or leave the info out if there isn't one. --Jakob (talk) (my editor review) 21:56, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Adding to the previous answer, I recommend that you read our explanation of why original research is not acceptable on Wikipedia.  Cullen <sup style="color:purple;">328  Let's discuss it  06:16, 24 May 2014 (UTC)