Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 274

HOW DO I REPORT VANDALISM?
Hi,

I've just experienced what i think is vandalism on a page I've been contributing to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Wonderful_World_(1956_film)

I've just cleaned it all up, but late this afternoon (as I was using the Zhaofeng Li reflinks tool), all the brackets on the page, and some of the full stops had been changed to # symbols. Who would I report this to - is there a procedure for reporting, etc?

Beryl reid fan (talk) 18:06, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . This diff shows that you made the edit that caused the problem. Perhaps the Zhaofeng Li reflinks tool has a bug. I am not familiar with that tool, so I recommend you look into it, and double check your work when using it. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  19:28, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
 * For vandalism, go to WP:AIV if the problem persists. For bugs, report them to WP:VPT, and they may send you elsewhere if it's not a Wikipedia-specific problem, but that's a start.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  20:16, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cullen328, thank you. I was working from a library computer as well. Maybe that had something to do with it. But thanks, anyway. Beryl reid fan (talk) 20:15, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that, Vchimpanzee. Beryl reid fan (talk) 20:35, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

How to view newest articles of a project
Hello. Is there a way to view recently created articles belonging to a particular WikiProject (e.g. Insects, Mexico, etc.) or, alternatively, newly created articles within a Category or recent changes within a category? I imagine this would be some sort of external tool. Thanks. --Animalparty-- (talk) 03:44, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * hello and welcome to The Teahouse. If there is a tool, those who would know can be found at WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  21:05, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

how do i move a picture that Ive uploaded into the article?
Ive been able to upload the pic but dont know how to get it into the article. Help please. Thanks.Palisades1 20:02, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi, Palisades1. To place an image, write the following, replacing "Example.png" with the name of your image, and adding your own caption.
 * Almost always, this is all you need. For a description of other options, you could see Picture tutorial. – Margin1522 (talk) 21:19, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Almost always, this is all you need. For a description of other options, you could see Picture tutorial. – Margin1522 (talk) 21:19, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

When is it ok to remove (and replace) citations?
I want to edit some text with three citations. Two are dead links, and the third is irrelevant to the text; I imagine it was relevant in some previous state.

I've easily found three other sources that substantiate the claims much better. Is it ok to simply remove the old links and insert my three new ones?

To clarify, I'm not changing the text, just the sources. sudo people  19:46, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * welcome back to The Teahouse. It sounds like what you are doing is fine. If you are certain that you are adding links to sources that cover all of the material, you can add them. A link to a source that is irrelevant should probably be removed. We do not remove dead links just because they no longer work because they may help in finding where the information is archived, but if you are certain all the material will still be sourced when you add your links, go ahead.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  21:20, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Awesome, you've address my concerns perfectly. The idea that we don't remove dead links is the primary reason for my inquiry. Thanks very much. sudo  people  21:31, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Can I remove a false warning?
Recently I made an edit on an article, as I thought consensus was against the current state. I then got an edit war warning, even though I only made 1 edit (one revert rule?).

The issue is cleared up now, but I don't want that warning lingering on my talk page, making me look like some sort of troublemaker.

Can I remove it?

Weegeerunner (talk) 21:33, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi, Weegeerunner, welcome to the Teahouse! In most cases, yes, you can remove the warnings, or you can archive them.  Anon 126   (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 21:45, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

New users to move existing page
Is it possible for new users (who are not auto-confirmed yet) to move an existing page? I am working on changing the content of a page that belongs to a professional dancer.. basically remove outdated information and make updates. One important edit is her name... which is also the Wiki Page name that needs to be changed.

Neha.vignesh (talk) 21:07, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Yes, please follow the procedure described at Requested moves. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  21:12, 12 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you Cullen. I did take a look at the the page before posting the question... could not find any "requested move" process for non auto confirmed users for an existing page. Is it even possible? or do I have to ensure I become an auto-confirmed user first?

Neha.vignesh (talk) 21:21, 12 November 2014 (UTC)


 * The requested move process is the same for everybody. The difference for autoconfirmed users is that they can perform a move themselves without making a request. Your account cannot do this yet. Note that Wikipedia has a policy of using the common name and not necessarily the official name or the name preferred by the subject. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:25, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
 * , the specific issue is moot as the article has been moved to Joyce K. Paul. As a general principle, though, it is easy to become autoconfirmed as it requires just ten edits over four days. The requested move process is backlogged and may take over a week. So, in most cases, doing it yourself is the easiest and quickest. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  01:31, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
 * If this qualified (I have not looked), uncontroversial move requests can be made at the technical moves section of the requested moves project page. Most moves listed there are carried out within minutes to hours, rather than after a seven day discussion process. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:45, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you guys! this helps

67.182.147.11 (talk) 23:08, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Image uploads
Technical question: I am bringing the article Camas pocket gopher up to speed (GA or maybe FA status). I don't like the current image of the animal, because it is a taxidermy specimen labeled "California." This rodent is only found in Oregon. That is all beside the point. I emailed the non-profit here to ask about using their image. The creator of the image emailed me back with 4 excellent photos that I want to use. The email read "Hi xxxxx -- Go for it. I've attached the three good photos I got that day of the animal, plus one of the mounds.  Feel free to use one or more for the wikipedia page, and please credit the Institute for Applied Ecology for the picture(s).   I look forward to checking out the new page when you're done with it.  Thanks, xxx"  My question:  Does this qualify as a license and if so, which one? If not, do I need to email him back and ask that he upload the images himself? I would prefer to take care of this on my own... &mdash; Gaff ταλκ 22:05, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


 * There are replies at the help desk.  Anon 126   (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 23:13, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

is an article about a product suitable
Hi, I would like to create an article that explains what a particular product is. I am not trying to sell the product with this article. I just want to explain that the product formerly known as "A" is not called "B" and it has functionality from products "C" and "D". The goal is to help people who are genuinely confused. As precedent look up the article on "TMG" from Microsoft. Thanks in advance for your help, Jen JenField (talk) 22:34, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


 * You certainly can create an article about a particular product! When writing it you should make sure that all the information you're writing is verifiable by citing it to third party reliable sources of information (instructions for doing so can be found here), and ensure you're writing from a neutral point of view. (as you say, we shouldn't be aiming to sell our article subjects!) WP:TUTORIAL should help you learn the basics and Your First Article provides a guide on creating your first article. Sorry for the huge amount of links but I hope they help! Sam Walton (talk) 22:52, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, . 's answer is good as far as it goes, but what he does not say is that you need to establish that the product is notable (in Wikipedia's special sense). This means that there are reliable sources (such as major newspapers, or websites with a reputation for fact-checking) which are unconnected with the product and its manufacturers which have written at length about the product. So if there are, for example, substantial reviews of the product in reliable organs, then it is notable and may have an article. But if essentially all the information available about the article comes from companies who make or sell it, then it is not notable, and may not have an article. The other part of this is that explaining the difference between things to help people who are confused is, oddly, not part of the function of Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a repository of information which has already been written about in reliable sources, but any conclusion or synthesis from that information counts as original research, and is forbidden. --ColinFine (talk) 00:11, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk page vandalism
Is it OK to delete an entire vandalised talk section INCLUDING non-vandal replies? This is specifically regarding Talk:Philae_(spacecraft) sudo  people  20:27, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Teahouse! Unless it does meets the talk page guidelines, then you are allowed to remove the content. Looking at the link discussion, I don't see anything wrong. The user initiated a discussion with many users disagreed with it, so leave as it. ///Euro Car  GT  21:48, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


 * The problem in this case is his "hoax" is itself a hoax, perpetrated by himself as vandalism. He's now blocked, so that's nice, but I'd still like to know if I can remove the section. Not that it's a huge deal. I mostly want to know for future reference. sudo  people  21:52, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


 * The user is blocked not banned. According to the block log for trolling (WP:NOTHERE). You may remove it by being bold. ///Euro Car  GT  21:58, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I was scolded last time I was bold on a talk page :( Thanks for the encouragement! sudo  people  22:01, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


 * "Unless it does not meet the talk page guidelines, then you are allowed to remove the content." I think that's backward.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  20:45, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oops! And it's the other way around. ///Euro Car  GT  00:53, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

How to find articles that need editing
When I first started an account there was a bar at the top of the screen that showed me random articles that needed editing. How do I access this again? Raphael3988 (talk) 05:29, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Those automated messages stop after you have been here for a while. The menu on the left side of every Wikipedia page contains a link to the Community portal, which is a place to find out about articles needing editing. I can assure you that there are plenty of them. You can be busy pretty much forever if you want. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  07:00, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Greetings . Besides the community portal another way to find articles to edit is to use User:SuggestBot A wp:Bot in Wikipedia is an autonomous program that performs various functions. E.g., if you edit a page and accidentally create a syntax error in Wikicode there is a bot that will notice and will send you a message. SuggestBot is a bot you can ask to give you suggestions for pages to edit. I just used it the other day, here is an example on my talk page of the suggestions I got: User_talk:MadScientistX11 You will notice most of the articles SuggestBot gave to me are fairly nerdy. That's because those are the kind of articles I tend to edit the most. SuggestBot looks at your Wikipedia edit history and tries to find similar kinds of articles. The more you edit the more SuggestBot has to work with and the more likely it can give you articles that match your specific interests and expertise. Here is the section that tells how to ask SuggestBot for ideas, it's very easy: User:SuggestBot --MadScientistX11 (talk) 12:59, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, Raphael. Looking at your contributions up to now, you may be interested in joining the Guild of Copy Editors (GOCE). There's a long list of articles in need of editing there along with guidance and awards for your efforts.  Take care, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·ʇuoɔ) WER 01:01, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Providing material from another source
There is no content on Thodore Dreier. Is it okay to copy and past the New York Times obituary on him?

Ninasfamily (talk) 23:18, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. The answer is no: it is almost never acceptable to copy and paste material from elsewhere into a Wikipedia article, because that would violate the NYT's copyright in the material. An article needs to be entirely based upon published reliable sources, but it must be written in new words. Please see your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 00:13, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello . Is it possible that you mean Theodore Dreiser? We have an article about him. Cullen<sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  00:27, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Please note, Ninasfamily, that in addition to the above, it is illegal (from the perspective of the U.S.) for you to do this anywhere, on or off Wikipedia. While we attempt to police copyright violations more intensively than many other user generated sites, the fact that you would be violating The New York Times' copyright by copying and pasting its content (in a manner that would not constitute fair use) would be true whether the site you did this on policed it or not, or had an express policy on it or not--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:08, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Article always deleted
I have submitted the same article five or six times. And it has been deleted for copyright violation, even though the information I used was provided by the article's subject, a professor at UCBerkeley. She is having the page written because she was asked by UC Berkeley to create it.

The article has been deleted because I am being paid to create it, I have a conflict of interest, I am advertising, there are no external references, etc.

I have researched other pages of professors and don't see any significant differences apart from the amount of material provided. In my first draft I included many external references about the professor. All of my work has been deleted without delay, causing me hours and hours of trying again and again. JB, DRAGA design, Oakland, CA USA 00:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barenose (talk • contribs) 09:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC+9)

(*Note: signature added per WP:TPG - Marchjuly (talk) 00:21, 12 November 2014 (UTC))


 * Hello and welcome to the teahouse. Do you have a question for us? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:16, 12 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, how do I get my article to be accepted? I have repeatedly said that the professor about whom the article is has given me her permission to use the material I have used.

She has repeatedly rewritten the material, hoping to fit into the Wiki guidelines. No success. JB, DRAGA design, Oakland, CA USA 00:42, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Greetings welcome to the teahouse. BTW, please remember to sign all your comments with five tildas rather than just typing your name. That's a convention here so we know who said what. If the professor is trying to write her own page or to get someone to write a page for her that is what Wikipedia defines as a wp:conflict of interest.  Regarding copyright, just because someone says "I give you permission to use this" doesn't necessarily resolve copyright issues. Wikipedia is more rigorous about such things than many other sites on the Internet. It's OK to include quotes of copyrighted material as long as they are identified as quotes and properly sourced. But in general the main text of any Wikipedia article is meant to be original text written by editors. So any text that is found to be copied and pasted from some other source will likely be deleted fairly quickly. Here are some FAQs about Copyright on Wikipedia: FAQ/Copyright As for researching other pages of professors that unfortunately is a common complaint; Wikipedia is a work in progress. The process for reviewing new pages is a bit stricter now than it was in the past. So the bottom line is that you can't pick some arbitrary pages and assume that just because they are published that they are models of a good page. To understand what makes a good Wikipedia article it's much better to use articles like this: The answer to life, the universe, and everything as a guide.   --MadScientistX11 (talk) 01:06, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse,, although you may not be happy with some of my remarks. First of all, as a paid editor, you have been advised to declare your conflict of interest on your user page. You have not done so. Please do so promptly.


 * You state that "she was asked by UC Berkeley to create it" which I find to be an outlandish claim. I have participated in a Wikipedia Edit-a-thon on the Berkeley campus, and have collaborated with several experienced editors with ties to that university. I have never once heard of the university "asking" a faculty member to have a Wikipedia article written about them. I would be astounded if that is true.


 * For three months now, you have been trying over and over again to create an article the wrong way, and consequently, your talk page is full of excellent advice from experienced editors, which you have chosen to ignore. Your determination to build the article on extensive quotations from copyrighted material on the UC Berkeley website is misguided. This professor can't grant permission to freely license content from a copyrighted university website. Only the Regents of the University of California, or their designated representative for copyright issues can do that. Far better for you to loosely paraphrase such content, instead of trying to copy and paste it into an encyclopedia. This type of material isn't written in an encyclopedic style anyway. It is your job to write this article in the style that Wikipedia prefers, not the university style.


 * Your strategy of pointing out that other crappy articles exist and saying that you want to create another similarly crappy article is logically flawed. We delete crappy articles all the time, and this one will be subject to scrutiny, since you have requested such scrutiny yourself. Far better to create an adequate article, an acceptable article, and an article with the potential to become a good article.


 * Your primary job here is to show, conclusively, that this person meets our notability standard WP:ACADEMIC. The vast majority of college and university professors fail that test, and don't have Wikipedia biographies. You must show that this professor is truly notable. You have not yet done so. And complaining about other editors acting in good faith won't get you across that finish line.


 * So my advice to you is to openly declare your obvious COI on your user page, show that this academic is notable, and if you can do that, write a neutral, well-referenced biography that complies with Wikipedia's policies, guidelines and manual of style. In the mean time, please stop complaining. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  04:21, 12 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Some further advice. I wish I had seen this earlier, because I frequently work with bio articles on academics and I perhaps could have clarified this a little for you. The first step in making such an article is to decide if it is reasonably likely that the person is notable--the relevant criteria are WP:PROF   WP:AUTHOR or WP:GNG.  Most often an academic is notable by WP:PROF, which requires evidence of being an authority in their field. As a rule, the way it is interpreted here, Associate professors do not meet this requirement, which normally requires evidence of major prizes or similar distinctions, or very widely cited publications.   As she has written only one book, published by a minor publisher & in few libraries, (the others are her thesis, which doesn't count, and coeditorship rather than authorship of a collective work, which doesn't count either)  she won't meet WP:AUTHOR. Academic rarely meet the GNG, unless their work has attracted widespread public interest as shown by substantial coverage in published sources. In her field this is possible, but there is no evidence of it for her. Therefore, there is no possible way a satisfactory article can be written at this stage in her career.   I have some other comments on your manner of working, which I am adding to your user talk page.  DGG ( talk ) 04:20, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Trying to make minor changes
I apparently succeeded in deletion of an incorrect entry on my brother's page (Jan Nemec, film director).

This was a page of the ENGLISH version of Wikipedia.

I have, apparently, access to the Czech version of Wikipedia as well (I speak and write Czech when needed) but I am not sure whether I succeeded or failed to make a minor change to the Czech Wikipedia that contains much more detailed article about my brother Jan Nemec who recently created a bit of 'controversy' according the Czech press.

Any response will be appreciated, at this point I am bit disoriented. Perhaps just a link to some stuff will do.

Ladislav Nemec, Big Bear, California

Nemeclnemecl (talk) 17:46, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, you have access to the Czech version of wikipedia, as does any registered editor such as myself, who speaks no Czech whatsoever. You can always look at the editing history of a page, in this case look here.  It appears that indeed you made an edit, here.  Congratulations!  I hope that helps.    78.26   (spin me / revolutions) 18:25, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


 * HelloNemeclnemecl thank you for posting your question to the Teahouse page. When you post a question you may benefit other users and help them solve the same problem. Regarding your editing of your brother's article, I would suggest that you post this information on the talk page of the article and reveal your association with the subject. If this is not done, and some one questions your point of view, your change might be deleted. It is always best to be very open about your edits that might be questioned. I really wouldn't worry about it though, since your changes would be unlikely to be reverted.
 * <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkgray 0px 3px 3px;"> Bfpage &#124;leave a message 11:42, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Adding characters
How do I add characters to list of reccuring the simpsons characters look at this list
 * Lugash
 * Chazz Bubsy
 * Leprechaun
 * Dr. Velimirovic
 * Mayor Quimby's Body Guards -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Damncoolyo12$ (talk • contribs) 20:26, 14 November 2014‎
 * Thanks for your question. Let's take the first of your characters for instance.  In the article you would write:


 * Grady
 * Lucius Sweet
 * Space Mutants
 * Jack Marley
 * Surly Duff


 * Try to find reliable sources like reviews in major publications, books, or other articles that talk about these characters. Then, based on that information, write a description of the character in your own words. If no such sources exist, it's probably better to leave that character the article even if they appear in the show.  Let me know if I can help you out with this.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 04:25, 15 November 2014 (UTC)


 * And please note they are recurring characters, not reccuring ones ;-) - Arjayay (talk) 13:37, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Another thing how to I add them without vandalizing

Mork calling Orson... Come in, Orson...
Hello Teahouse! I have some issues at establishing a communication with a new Wikipedia editor. I would like to guide this person to both change her username and to improve the article that she is writing, since it needs a profound reorganization. My problem is: I think that she hasn't noticed any of my replies and maybe she is not aware of the existence of talk pages. After I left an edit summary in the article that she is writing, she contacted me writing on my user page but, again, it seems that my following replies were not noticed. My question is: assuming the worst-case scenario and a person that doesn't notice the notifications nor looks at her (or mine) talk page, is there a way to get her attention? Any suggestion is welcomed. ► LowLevel (talk) 12:47, 15 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Have you tried emailing her? She may pay more attention to her emails than her talk page. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 12:52, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Skamecrazy123, thanks for the suggestion. I think that it could work but I would prefer to use a method of communication internal to Wikipedia. ► LowLevel (talk) 19:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Na-nu na-nu. Given the the orange notification bar when you post to someone's talk page, that persists until checked (albeit, the old system was much better), I think it's reasonable to assume she actually has seen your posts and decided not to respond. Yeah, send an email if hers is enabled, why not, but your time is valuable and there's only so many rabbit holes that can be explored. If the username issue you mentioned is of a blatant sort and meets the criteria do so, reporting to Usernames for administrator attention is a possible indirect way to get attention.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:09, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Fuhghettaboutit, thanks for your reply. The change of username is in my opinion strongly suggested, because it matches with the title of the article that the editor has created. A COI is extremely improbable, though, because the article is about a poet who lived in the 19th century. I'll try to contact the editor one more time in the following days, before giving up and following your suggestions. Thanks! ► LowLevel (talk) 19:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Help with notability
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mandali_Mendrilla

Mandali Mendrilla, is definitely a notable person, and the article has a lot of references. I understand the editor has different ideas, please help me.Madhu Gopal (talk) 02:39, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * hello and welcome to The Teahouse. I took a quick look and Mandali Mendrilla appears notable to me. I'm sure the article could be expanded but the subject does appear to pass the test. It would be helpful to identify the newspaper or source in each case. There are templates that can help you do this, or you can simply identify the newspaper or source between .— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  22:03, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you Vchimpanzee. So how can I get it published... What do I need to do exactly. I am just a beginner, and have not so much experience. Thank you for the help.Madhu Gopal (talk) 13:09, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure. Just keep looking for sources that are independent which have a neutral point of view and a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. The fact that someone disagrees with me on notability indicates that you may have a harder time.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  19:16, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

First submission deleted before I could fix. Issue: copyrighted work. How do I fix?
Hello, I'm very new to Wikipedia as an editor. I wrote my first page and submitted it last week. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:ILLUMAGEAR Unfortunately it was rejected and deleted before I could do anything.

Could someone please assist me in explaining how I can locate the deleted page and edit it? It would also be helpful to understand where the copyright infringement exists.

Thanks! A. A0royal (talk) 18:50, 15 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. According to the message on Draft:ILLUMAGEAR, it was copied from http://illumagear.com/safety-products/the-halo-light, and is therefore an infringement of the copyright on that page. Where a page is deleted for other reasons, an administrator would be able to give you a copy of the deleted material in your user space, to work from; but when it is a copyright violation, we must not keep the text anywhere in Wikipedia. If you want to write an article about Illumagear, you will need to base it on (but not copy directly from) reliable sources unconnected with the company that have written about it. (You may reference basic uncontroversial factual information from the company's own sources, such as dates and locations, but anything with a hint of subjectivity must come from independent sources). I suggest looking at your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 19:17, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * (ec) Welcome to the Teahouse, . Administrator deleted the article, stating that the content was copied from http://illumagear.com/safety-products/the-halo-light). You need to write in your own words. Any specific questions need to be directed to that administrator. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  19:21, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

There is an article I edited to add unbias to an article. However, the edit was removed because of "unreliable sources", when other edits have used articles with similar credibility. What should I do?
There is an article I edited to add unbias to an article. However, the edit was removed because of "unreliable sources", when other edits have used articles with similar credibility. What should I do?QuantumMass (talk) 23:03, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * this appears to be about Brianna Wu, and elated to GamerGate; in the edit, you are adding information about  "allegations" which you say are "not yet confirmed" . This is a particular sensitive thing to add with respect to a living person, and Reditt is not anywhere near a sufficient source for it.  DGG ( talk ) 23:16, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Citing numeration & images
Hi everybody!

I'm a wikipedia rookie and new to the teahouse. So, as You guessed, I struggle with some difficulties with my first article. If someone could help me with those, that would be great!

In the draft, the numbers of the reference list are incoherent with does in the text. I used 3 sources altogether. To 2 of them I'm referencing repeatedly, however, I don't know how to make the right number show up in the little blue brackets.

This is my main problem at the moment. Also, I'm not sure if I should submit my draft without images although I have them. Is this the ordinary way of procedure or did I maybe just overlook where to add images?

Thanks a lot & best Lidanoir (talk) 23:32, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi there! I've fixed up the referencing there now. You can find more information on what I did at WP:NAMEDREFS. As it says there, the first instance of the reference you use the first format (second line of that page). Then when you want to use it anywhere else, just place the second format (fourth line of that page).
 * As for images, they do make the article better, but they're not necessary. If you want to add one, make sure you own the copyright or the image released under a compatible license (see WP:IUP for more)! Stickee (talk) 01:27, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

1st article deleted
Pl help my 1st article has deleted Gullu123 (talk) 02:44, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Do you mean User:Gullu123/sandbox? In which case, it hasn't gone anywhere. -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  04:31, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . I see that your article about a musician named Usha Ranjan Mukherjee was deleted. Please familiarize yourself with our notability guideline for music, which covers musicians, bands, composers, albums, singles, songs and the like. Make sure that the subject of your article meets this guideline, and be sure to demonstrate it by including references to significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. You may find an essay called your first article to be useful. The deleting administrator may possibly be willing to restore the article as a draft in your userspace, if there is any potential for developing an acceptable encyclopedia article. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  04:33, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

President Kennedy speech
i looking for the speech were president kennedy said PRESIDENT KENNEDY SPEECH THE 5 TO 10 PERCENT OF AMERICAN HAVE THE POWER AND THE MONEY TO PROTECT THE INSTRENT IT THE JOB OF THE PRESIDENT TO POTECT THE OTHER 95 PRECENT
 * Hi there. First, just want to suggest you don't type in all caps because it's a little distracting.  Second, I don't know about the speech, unfortunately.  You might consider asking the reference desk, which is intended to help with general knowledge questions.  The Teahouse here is generally used to ask questions about how to edit. Thanks,  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 09:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

how to update the issues for a new article.
I am a beginner. I have written an article and saved it before completion. So, the article came up with multiple issues. But after I completed the article and solved most of the issues, all the issues are still shown on the page. can someone help me with how to update the status of the article. The link to the page is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_methods_for_free_surface_flow Thanks and regards Shubhamsahota93 (talk) 12:38, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Shubhamsahota93 and welcome to the Teahouse. Thanks for adding the intro to the text and citing some sources, but the article still needs more references and inline citations. The article also needs some more text that explain in layman terms what the article is about and maybe some practical applications. I have updated the templates accordingly. Best, <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">w.carter <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">-Talk  14:00, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Talking about Wikipedia with non-Wikipedians
I am recently contacted by a person doing research on a particular event, on which I had started and edited a large portion in Wikipedia. Shall I as a Wikipedian handle the media queries? Or shall I divert it to Wikimedia board? What are the limitations for Wikipedian while talking to media or researchers? - Vatsan34 (talk) 10:24, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the, . I have been interviewed twice in the past year by reporters who wrote daily newspaper profiles of me as a Wikipedia editor. You are free to speak to reporters if you wish, as long as you make it clear to them that you are speaking as an individual volunteer, and not in any official capacity. I recommend doing so by email so that there is a written record. If the matter is at all controversial, be cautious. If you need Wikimedia staff advice, is the communications director there. Good luck. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  17:07, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Cullen. I have requested only e-mail correspondence and let me go through the questions. If at all I find something controversial, I will get the help of Jay. And I will talk as an individual volunteer only. - Vatsan34 (talk) 17:52, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

What if there's no movie poster?
I just created (started) an article about Storm de Hirsch's film, Peyote Queen, and I'd like to supplement it with an image under the "fair use" rule. I understand it's okay to use an image of a movie poster in such cases, but I can't find one. There are a million stills out there, though. Can I upload one of those? --Rosekelleher (talk) 16:09, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your question R. The ins and outs of "fair use" are Byzantine to be sure. You might find some info at WP:MOSFILM. I have also posted a link to this thread Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film in hopes that someone from that project may be able to help you. Good Luck. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 16:19, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Please read our guideline on non-free image use. Item #5 of permitted uses states, "Video screenshots: For critical commentary and discussion of the work in question (i.e., films, television programs, and music videos)." I believe that the use you describe is legitimate. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  17:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help! I wish the rest of the world was as helpful as the people at this site. : ) --Rosekelleher (talk) 17:59, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Rejection of proposed edit to existing article
I submitted a relatively minor edit to an exising article titled "Laser bonding" to provide the proper information regarding the invention, name of inventor, related patents and licensing. I received the following message for this proposed edit.

"This submission provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject matter. Please see the guide to writing better articles for information on how to better format your submission.

Apparently I submitted my minor edit as a new article creation. The current article has been posted (and revised) for a few years now.

I thought I was sending in a minor edit not trying to create a new article. What did I do wrong?

me2paul Me2paul (talk) 19:33, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * , with this edit you added the template asking for the page to treated as a new article for review. You either need to make the edit to Laser bonding of if you feel your edit might be controversial to propose the edit at Talk:Laser bonding with a new section heading like ==Proposed edit== . Nthep (talk) 20:27, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Why is the external (research-based article) link I added considered promotional?
I did a good research on the use of Technology Readiness Levels in the European Union's new 'SME Instrument', which is part of new 'Horizon 2020' framework program. This is a little-researched emerging topic. I thought it would be useful for many people so I linked my research post (http://serkanbolat.com/2014/11/03/technology-readiness-level-trl-math-for-innovative-smes) to relevant Wikipedia articles. But, it was deleted because it was considered to be promotional. I don't sell anything and work for European Commission. In the past, I added some external links for other people, which were appreciated. Should someone else have added my article as an external link? Sbolat (talk) 12:49, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Greetings, welcome to the teahouse. Something can be wp:promotional regardless of who posts it. I assume you are talking about edits like the one you made recently to Small and medium-sized enterprises which was reverted by  If you want to question why another editor reverted your work the best idea is to ask a question by creating a new section on the talk page of the article, in this case that would be here: Talk:Small_and_medium-sized_enterprises or on the Talk page of the other editor. I think in this case the thinking was that regardless of who posted that link, it didn't really add anything useful to the article. There are often a lot of web pages that might be relevant to a given Wikipedia article. Each article would end up being primarily a list of other links if we included every one. A External link needs to meet certain criteria; not just be relevant but add some non-trivial unique value to the article. The other editor thought (and in my very brief look I agree) that the link you added didn't meet those criteria. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 15:44, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


 * People do get concerned if editors link to something they wrote. It is sometimes appropriate,and as MadScientistX11 says discussion on the talk page will help.  I would be concerned seeing "...United Kingdom, Australia, and of course European countries."   and the awful phrase "including but not limited to" in the second paragraph, but overall the article does seem like a good introduction.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:18, 16 November 2014 (UTC).


 * Thank you very much for your guidance. Sbolat (talk) 20:39, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

1st article deleted
Pl help my 1st article has deleted Gullu123 (talk) 02:44, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Do you mean User:Gullu123/sandbox? In which case, it hasn't gone anywhere. -- <sup style="font-weight:normal; color:#00E">t  numbermaniac  <sup style="color:#00E">c  04:31, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . I see that your article about a musician named Usha Ranjan Mukherjee was deleted. Please familiarize yourself with our notability guideline for music, which covers musicians, bands, composers, albums, singles, songs and the like. Make sure that the subject of your article meets this guideline, and be sure to demonstrate it by including references to significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. You may find an essay called your first article to be useful. The deleting administrator may possibly be willing to restore the article as a draft in your userspace, if there is any potential for developing an acceptable encyclopedia article. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  04:33, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

President Kennedy speech
i looking for the speech were president kennedy said PRESIDENT KENNEDY SPEECH THE 5 TO 10 PERCENT OF AMERICAN HAVE THE POWER AND THE MONEY TO PROTECT THE INSTRENT IT THE JOB OF THE PRESIDENT TO POTECT THE OTHER 95 PRECENT
 * Hi there. First, just want to suggest you don't type in all caps because it's a little distracting.  Second, I don't know about the speech, unfortunately.  You might consider asking the reference desk, which is intended to help with general knowledge questions.  The Teahouse here is generally used to ask questions about how to edit. Thanks,  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 09:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

how to update the issues for a new article.
I am a beginner. I have written an article and saved it before completion. So, the article came up with multiple issues. But after I completed the article and solved most of the issues, all the issues are still shown on the page. can someone help me with how to update the status of the article. The link to the page is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_methods_for_free_surface_flow Thanks and regards Shubhamsahota93 (talk) 12:38, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Shubhamsahota93 and welcome to the Teahouse. Thanks for adding the intro to the text and citing some sources, but the article still needs more references and inline citations. The article also needs some more text that explain in layman terms what the article is about and maybe some practical applications. I have updated the templates accordingly. Best, <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">w.carter <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">-Talk  14:00, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Talking about Wikipedia with non-Wikipedians
I am recently contacted by a person doing research on a particular event, on which I had started and edited a large portion in Wikipedia. Shall I as a Wikipedian handle the media queries? Or shall I divert it to Wikimedia board? What are the limitations for Wikipedian while talking to media or researchers? - Vatsan34 (talk) 10:24, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the, . I have been interviewed twice in the past year by reporters who wrote daily newspaper profiles of me as a Wikipedia editor. You are free to speak to reporters if you wish, as long as you make it clear to them that you are speaking as an individual volunteer, and not in any official capacity. I recommend doing so by email so that there is a written record. If the matter is at all controversial, be cautious. If you need Wikimedia staff advice, is the communications director there. Good luck. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  17:07, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Cullen. I have requested only e-mail correspondence and let me go through the questions. If at all I find something controversial, I will get the help of Jay. And I will talk as an individual volunteer only. - Vatsan34 (talk) 17:52, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

What if there's no movie poster?
I just created (started) an article about Storm de Hirsch's film, Peyote Queen, and I'd like to supplement it with an image under the "fair use" rule. I understand it's okay to use an image of a movie poster in such cases, but I can't find one. There are a million stills out there, though. Can I upload one of those? --Rosekelleher (talk) 16:09, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your question R. The ins and outs of "fair use" are Byzantine to be sure. You might find some info at WP:MOSFILM. I have also posted a link to this thread Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film in hopes that someone from that project may be able to help you. Good Luck. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 16:19, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Please read our guideline on non-free image use. Item #5 of permitted uses states, "Video screenshots: For critical commentary and discussion of the work in question (i.e., films, television programs, and music videos)." I believe that the use you describe is legitimate. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  17:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help! I wish the rest of the world was as helpful as the people at this site. : ) --Rosekelleher (talk) 17:59, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Rejection of proposed edit to existing article
I submitted a relatively minor edit to an exising article titled "Laser bonding" to provide the proper information regarding the invention, name of inventor, related patents and licensing. I received the following message for this proposed edit.

"This submission provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject matter. Please see the guide to writing better articles for information on how to better format your submission.

Apparently I submitted my minor edit as a new article creation. The current article has been posted (and revised) for a few years now.

I thought I was sending in a minor edit not trying to create a new article. What did I do wrong?

me2paul Me2paul (talk) 19:33, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * , with this edit you added the template asking for the page to treated as a new article for review. You either need to make the edit to Laser bonding of if you feel your edit might be controversial to propose the edit at Talk:Laser bonding with a new section heading like ==Proposed edit== . Nthep (talk) 20:27, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Why is the external (research-based article) link I added considered promotional?
I did a good research on the use of Technology Readiness Levels in the European Union's new 'SME Instrument', which is part of new 'Horizon 2020' framework program. This is a little-researched emerging topic. I thought it would be useful for many people so I linked my research post (http://serkanbolat.com/2014/11/03/technology-readiness-level-trl-math-for-innovative-smes) to relevant Wikipedia articles. But, it was deleted because it was considered to be promotional. I don't sell anything and work for European Commission. In the past, I added some external links for other people, which were appreciated. Should someone else have added my article as an external link? Sbolat (talk) 12:49, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Greetings, welcome to the teahouse. Something can be wp:promotional regardless of who posts it. I assume you are talking about edits like the one you made recently to Small and medium-sized enterprises which was reverted by  If you want to question why another editor reverted your work the best idea is to ask a question by creating a new section on the talk page of the article, in this case that would be here: Talk:Small_and_medium-sized_enterprises or on the Talk page of the other editor. I think in this case the thinking was that regardless of who posted that link, it didn't really add anything useful to the article. There are often a lot of web pages that might be relevant to a given Wikipedia article. Each article would end up being primarily a list of other links if we included every one. A External link needs to meet certain criteria; not just be relevant but add some non-trivial unique value to the article. The other editor thought (and in my very brief look I agree) that the link you added didn't meet those criteria. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 15:44, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


 * People do get concerned if editors link to something they wrote. It is sometimes appropriate,and as MadScientistX11 says discussion on the talk page will help.  I would be concerned seeing "...United Kingdom, Australia, and of course European countries."   and the awful phrase "including but not limited to" in the second paragraph, but overall the article does seem like a good introduction.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:18, 16 November 2014 (UTC).


 * Thank you very much for your guidance. Sbolat (talk) 20:39, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Translation Rules
The following is listed under the "Communications" heading of "Requested Articles" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Applied_arts_and_sciences#Communications): Eurosignal, A wireless system to broadcast messages using sound signals similar to morse code (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurosignal; http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funkrufnetz#Eurosignal)

I am fluent in both French and English, and I was wondering what the correct procedure would be for translating the French version of the article into English. I found Wikipedia's page on translation rules rather confusing (I'm not sure what is meant by the template, and I'm not sure if I should cite the French sources on the English version of the page, or if English sources are required)

I could really use some help understanding the rules for translating pages. Thanks! Rcoul064 (talk) 01:42, 17 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Rcoul064 and welcome to the Teahouse. I agree that the Wikipedia page about translations is a bit confusing, so I'll try to help you out here. You can translate any article from any language to the English Wikipedia. You can also "transfer" the references from the other language to this WP. It does not matter what language the sources for the references are in, as long as they are reliable independent sources. There are plenty of people with all kinds of language skills here to check them and help out. The template that is mentioned is a "code" that is placed on the talk page of the article which will result in a little note about what page the translation is taken from and when it was inserted in the English article. You can see one of those notes on this talk page.
 * When you translate something and write it in an article here on the English WP, you essentially become "responsible" for checking that it is right. You can not just translate something and "blame" the original editor. The biggest problem with translating, is that the English WP has much higher standards than other WPs. An article which is notable in one language may not always meet the standards of this WP. In the case of the article you mention here, there is another problem. The French article does not have any references at all. It is unfortunately not uncommon that WPs in other languages include articles without references, something that is a must for a new article here. The German article has some references, but not nearly enough. So if you translate this article, you will also have to find sources that supports what is written in the article if you want the article to be accepted here.
 * I also saw that you have created an article here already, so you know something about editing. You should read Help:Referencing for beginners since you so far have only used bare urls. You should also make a Draft instead of entering the article directly into the main area of the WP. I am going to leave some info on your talk page about some more things. Best, <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">w.carter <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:DarkBlue">-Talk  02:35, 17 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much W.carter, your help is much appreciated! Rcoul064 (talk) 02:47, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

bangladesh or bengali is a form of sanskrit
Your site leaves alot to be desired its very difficult to figure out how to add edit something Lisam7 (talk) 05:07, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Welcome to the Teahouse, first of all Wikipedia is not our site. It's a free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Nobody can claim ownership for articles. And you have to tell us what your problem is. Do you want to know how to edit Wikipedia? Then Help:Editing is the best place for you to learn. Please keep in mind that Teahouse isn't a complaint center, It's a place where you can get help from other experienced editors. Cheers!-- Chamith   (talk)  05:19, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Should we sign the vandalism templates?
When we revert vandalism and warn the IP on their talk page, should we sign the template? StewdioMACK (talk) 07:56, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi StewdioMACK. Yes you should sign such templates, and in fact all talk page templates should be signed – I can't even think of one exception. Just place it directly after the template code. For example <tt> --~ </tt> Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:00, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Undoubtedly the wrong place to ask, but I don't know where the right place is:- why aren't these signed automatically, as part of the transclusion? - Arjayay (talk) 16:15, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Pretty much no user warning templates anywhere will auto sign. In case you want to place an additional message after the template before the signature. Stickee (talk) 00:45, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware of that, but we can at least try and improve things, this could easily be accommodated by the transclusion. - Arjayay (talk) 08:34, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Uploading image on Wiki
Hi there! I was just uploading an image to a Wiki entry (on Frances Separovic) but have had the image removed. Why is this so and would you please help me with this?

Thanks so much!Vino nair (talk) 06:18, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . The file in question is and by clicking on that link, you can see the error messages on Wikimedia Commons. We are a separate (although related) website, so the best thing for your to do is to study the error messages and discuss the matter with the administrator there who has raised concerns, It seems that you uploaded the file, but Frances Separovic is listed as the author. That raises the question as to whether you are Frances Separovic? (You don't need to answer here if you don't want to) Is the photo a selfie? If you are not that person, then Wikimedia Commons needs solid evidence that you are authorized to upload the photo, These are the type of questions that need to be answered, at least on the licensing information for the photo. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  08:41, 17 November 2014 (UTC)