Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 483

Translation
Hello Teahouse i recently tried - and failed - to create a wiki page, subject Michael Bolus Sculptor. I have just found a page: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bolus It's in German and seems short of references etc Is it possible to translate this page to the english wiki pages and then build on it with additional information? Greensaulberg (talk) 13:11, 9 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse.. The advice is at Translation. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:19, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, . If that article was translated and no sources added, it would be deleted as an unsourced biography of a living person. If you found and added sources to it, then it would be acceptable, provided that the subject meets our notability requirements. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:19, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks Cordless. Subject is dead, 2013. How would i go about adding sources to the article if not reading German? If i understand you correctly then translating and moving it to english wiki, would immediately prompt it's deletion giving no time for citation adding etc Could it be translated to a sandbox maybe? Greensaulberg (talk) 08:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I suggest you translate it to a draft Draft:Michael Bolus (that's red because it doesn't exist yet). As long as it is not an attack page or a copyright infringement, nobody will interfere with it there, and you can work on the language and the references. You might get some assistance at WP:WikiProject Germany or WP:WikiProject Sculpture. --ColinFine (talk) 08:49, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Citation
I'm creating a new page with the help of the artist. This may well mean that elements in the text can't be cited as they've never been published before, I have however provided these where I can. The material is accurate though as I have a pretty authoritative source. I've never submitted for review before but will in the next week or 2 when I'll include much more of the material sourced from the interview with Ross, but I imagine that the citations (or lack of) may be challenged. Is there a way round this? It's a draft page called Blue Rose Code (a Scots musician called Ross Wilson) if it helps to look... Draft:Blue Rose Code Weirydad (talk) 07:33, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Material sourced to an unpublished interview should not be included. Stick to material which is referenced to published reliable sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:55, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Yes, it's always helpful to include a link to an article you are asking about; and somebody has changed your URL to a Wikilink for clarity.
 * In answer to your question, I'm afraid not. A keystone of Wikipedia is Verifiability: if it hasn't been (reliably) published, then it doesn't go into a Wikipedia article. Period.
 * Another way of looking at this is to realise that Wikipedia has almost no interest in what anybody says about themselves (or what their friends, relatives, associates, employees etc say about them). It is only interested in what people who have no connection to a subject have (reliably) published about the subject. So to write an article you first need to assemble independent reliably published sources (and if you can't find any, the subject is not notable in Wikipedia's special sense, and no article will be accepted however it is written), and then forget anything you may know about the subject and write an article based wholly on those sources (though in your own words, not plagiarising).
 * On which subject, if you are working with the help of the artist, it is likely that you have a conflict of interest, and you should be aware of our policies and advice on that subject. You are not forbidden from creating the article (and working on a draft, as you are doing, is the best way to proceed). But you should declare your COI as recommended in that link, and be careful about keeping your language neutral and not promotional. --ColinFine (talk) 09:01, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, I don't know if you reviewed the article but I have tried to be impartial about the document what's stated are facts. I've cited where these exist. When I say I'm working with the artist I'm not connected to him in any way but he has provided facts (DOB, area of Edinburgh, name of original label) but before I provide any more I wanted to ensure that I could do this reasonably and it sounds like I cant. I don't believe there is any conflict of interest but I'll read the article you reference. I believe the artist is notable given the work he's done and the fact that articles exist for many of his contemporaries. Weirydad (talk) 11:51, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Make an Article
There is a semi-popular social media/"meme sharing" app that I want to work together with other users of the the app to make a Wikipedia article about it. The app is called Pictophile. Would it be an ok thing to make a new article about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.31.67.122 (talk) 11:46, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, IP editor. The answer is "possibly". If you read Your first article, you will see that the whole process starts with finding sources: places where people who have no connection with the app have published substantial writing about it (not just passing mentions), in reliable places. That does not include social media, wikis, or most blogs, and it also doesn't include anything based on a press release or an interview with the people who made the app. We need to know that several people have thought the App worth writing about, in places like reputable magazines or books (websites are OK as long as they have a reputation for editorial control and fact checking).
 * If you cannot find any sources like this, then the app is not currently Notable in Wikipedia's special sense, and you shouldn't spend any time working on it because an article is not going to be accepted however you write it. If you can find sources, then use the articles for creation process to make a draft. Forget everything you know about the app (and especially any opinions or evaluations you have) and write your draft entirely based on what the reliable independent sources say (but in your own words, not just copying the text).
 * Writing a new article from scratch is not easy, and it baffles me why so many people that come here want to do that as the first thing they do; but if you understand the links I've given, and find your sources, there is no reason why you can't create a good article. --ColinFine (talk) 13:34, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

articles
Can I simply copy and paste a whole copyright-free articles and add it to Wikipedia or not? shorouq★kadair 👱 (talk) 15:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Probably not, . It won't be a copyright infringement (assuming it is indeed released under a suitable free licence), but it is unlikely to be suitable in content. Wikipedia articles are required to be neutrally written, and based entirely on published information, with the sources cited online. Unless your source is one which has very similar criteria to Wikipedia, it won't be suitable. --ColinFine (talk) 15:42, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Riaz Ali Shah
Draft:Riaz Ali Shah was not acepted. I will tone it down and be nuetral but i think i have cited enough references to show notabiliuty. pleasze tel me how its not a notable person. i mean read the facts in it. in what world is a personal doctor of the founder of a country and a person who eradicates TB not notable? i fail to understand. i thought wkiapedia was made up of sterner stuff. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legends2016 (talk • contribs) 15:28, 10 May 2016‎ (UTC)


 * It seems nice. Not that I know best, but the piece about his death might be the reason your draft was rejected. "It was not the will of god" and "perhaps for only this reason" do not seem formal. Dr. Gullible (talk) 16:10, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * There are many problems with your draft, I am afraid, . Large parts of it are unsourced, and so it fails our requirement for verifiability. You ask how a personal doctor of a founder of a country can be judged not notable. Notability is not "inherited" from personal or professional relationships, but rather demonstrated by significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. The subject may well be notable, but your draft does not sufficiently demonstrate this with references to such sources. The "Extracts from speeches" section does not belong on Wikipedia and might be better suited to Wikiquote. These are just some of the problems that I spotted from a brief scan. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:17, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Dead links
If an article has dead links that don't lead to other wiki pages, should I remove them, or should I not?Newrunner769 (talk) 16:24, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * If you are talking about internal wikilinks to articles which do not yet exist, see WP:red links. If you are talking about external urls, see WP:dead links. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

categories
how do i add categories, I don't know how to. Newrunner769 (talk) 16:18, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse. You'll find the answers at Categorization. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:20, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * In addition to 's answer, there are a series of Category-specific tips at the WP Tip library. Regards, — JoeHebda • (talk) 17:45, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Imaginary animals
I was just wondering if you can make up imaginary animals on here such as a "Zepard." Username1624 (talk) 20:41, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No. Wikipedia only has articles about topics that have been described by multiple reliable published sources. It has an article unicorn, but only because there is plenty of published material about unicorns. Maproom (talk) 20:50, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Doc Frankenstein
The page Doc Frankenstein is awfully short of tone adequacy and does not give a clear, unbiased tone---it sort of reminds me of a newscast. Should a template be placed? (Epikman) (talk) 20:10, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You could place a cleanup template on top, or, if you're interested in the topic, you could just clean it up yourself. White Arabian Filly  Neigh 21:09, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Neutrogena for animals
It is safe for Neutrogena in animals test! &#60;font color&#61;&#34;sky blue&#34;&#39;&#39;&#39;Gzkefpro&#39;&#39;&#39;&#60;/font&#62; (talk) 21:41, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? Cordless Larry (talk) 21:51, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

On my page how do I post a pic up?
How do I post a image on my page? Bstocker006 (talk) 16:02, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, welcome to the Teahouse! In order to upload images, your account needs to have at least 10 edits and be 4 days old. After 10 edits and 4 days, your account will become autoconfirmed and you can head to Upload to upload your images. Please note that because Wikipedia is built on free content, the images you upload must be either your own work or work that is free to use not just for Wikipedia, but for everybody, with very strict exceptions. Uploading an image that someone else took without their permission may be a copyright violation, which is against Wikipedia policy, so please be careful what images you upload. If you are not sure if your image would be acceptable, feel free to describe your intended use here and we'll be glad to help you. Mz7 (talk) 22:45, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Pi
Can I put all of the digits of Pi into a page? Can you explain to me why or why not, too? Thanks! Username1624 (talk) 20:43, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No. Because there are infinitely many of them. Maproom (talk) 20:47, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * See Pi.--Thnidu (talk) 22:45, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

When to revert an article?
Hello Teahousers,

I am here to ask for your input on the culture of reverting articles. I have found the page telling me how to do it via this page. I know about edit warring and I know about RfCs run amok first hand.

My question is, what is the considerate time frame after one has tried to communicate with an editor about their edits, and about the preferred culture of discussion on a talk page before major edits are done, before one might consider a reversion to a previous version of an article?

Reverting a page seems like an escalation in almost all cases, at least to me. Does it have this sense for the rest of you too?

I want understand more of the culture of page reverting, from your personal experience. Knowledge is useful.

I hesitate to link the article that has me asking, as I don't want to have my questions here seem to be canvassing or pressure or escalation. I am generally looking for brief descriptions of your experience to help me navigate new waters with care and clarity.

Thank you and best wishes, AD64 (talk) 17:02, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Bold, Revert, Discuss is your guide. Added material that's (sensibly) questioned shouldn't be re-added until it's been discussed.  Should that prove difficult, getting a third opinion can break the impasse without it turning into an edit war.  Note that you can still get in trouble for edit warring, even if you're "right".  If you meet someone who just isn't playing by the rules, don't push it too hard yourself, get other involved editors (or an entirely neutral 3O editor) to help out.  Bromley86 (talk) 00:30, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you, . Grateful for the link and the suggestions. Best, AD64 (talk) 00:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

What's the proper space for a KIS userbox template?
I've created a Keep It Simple label template for Typo Team which I've put on my sandbox. I copied the code from another KIS template and used the data from Template:User typo team and I'm pretty sure I have it right (though if someone wanted to check it for obvious errors, I'd appreciate it). My main question is: where should I give it a permanent home?

KIS labels no longer have their own space. KIS/label says to put it to userspace or project space. USERBOX says that WikiProject userboxes should go in the project namespace. And the existing typo team userbox Template:User typo team is in the template namespace. I don't really understand how it's all organized. Where should I put it? If I should ask at KIS or Typo Team, what's the best way to find the right person there? Reidgreg (talk) 02:54, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Guidelines for WP:ARTIST
I'm wondering, for a subject to be considered notable per WP:ARTIST, does it have to fulfill all of the criteria as there are four points outlined. If only one of the criteria is completed, does that ascertain notability or can it be subjective when deciding.        03:33, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Under Additional criteria on that page it says that "People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards" (my emphasis). So it's any one of those four. Rojomoke (talk) 03:49, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Clearcut cases tell us very little. No one is likely to contest the notability of an artist who has dozens of works in the permanent collections of the Louvre, the Tate, the Guggenheim, the Smithsonian, the LACMA, the SFMOMA, and so on. But what of the artist with a single work in the Denver Art Museum? Sometimes, meeting two of these criteria in a borderline fashion is more persuasive to some editors than meeting just one of them barely. Subjectivity enters into these debates, as does presenting the content in a fashion that simulates an acceptable Wikipedia article. Those who want to either keep or delete an article should be expected to make a broadly convincing case, instead of quibbling about trivialities. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  04:08, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Illma Gore article
Illma Gore painted the picture of Donald Trump naked and ended up making it available free on her website. Would inclusion of this image be policy compliant and appropriate for her BLP? Has this been discussed somewhere on WP? Thanks. EdChem (talk) 13:58, 8 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I can see nothing on her website which mentions the copyright status of her work, so we must assume that it is not free, and cannot be used. (The fact that she has chosen to let people download it for free does not mean that she has licensed it in a way compatible with Wikipedia). Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 19:13, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It may or may not qualify as fair use of non-free content though. If the visual art style of the particular image was discussed in the article, it could pass our non-free content criteria and be used in spite of its copyright status. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . Licensing is really important for sure when it comes to images, but there are also other considerations as well. Images are also article content, so it is possible that another editor may remove the image because they feel it does nothing to improve the article. If that happens, then you should try and resolve things in the spirit of WP:BRD or WP:DR on the article's talk page just like you should for any type of content dispute. A free license is not an automatic guarantee of use; it might be necessary to achieve a consensus on the article's talk page as well. As for adding textual content about the image to the article, it will really help your case if you are able to provide a reliable source in support, especially in the case of non-free use. If the article reflects what reliable sources say about the painting and it's style, then there's a better chance of the image remaining in the article. If the relevant text is unsourced or really just super basic (e.g., Illma Gore painted a picture of Trump naked and let people download it for free from her website.), then others may say the text and image shouldn't be there per WP:OR, WP:UNDUE, or WP:BLP. Try and remember that BLP policy applies not only to subjects of articles, but also any living persons mentioned within the articles. The more your arguments for including the image are based upon relevant policies and guidelines, the better your chance of convincing others that including it actually improves the article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:04, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

New user, deploying articles straight to WP
Hi guys. Via a list page on my watchlist, I've spotted a couple of new pages deployed by a new editor. They've not gone through the draft/review process that I'd assumed was required; seems I was wrong there.

Going by his name, the editor is one of the winners of the competition, so a COI. Currently, there aren't any sources that establish notability, let alone support the points made. I've popped in a couple of refimprove tags, and was going to give the editor a while to find some, but thought I'd pop in here to figure out what the right thing to do is. Cheers, Bromley86 (talk) 03:24, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Although the Articles for creation process is recommended, it is entirely optional and any registered editor can create any new article they wish at any time. Of course, any such article must comply with our policies and guidelines or is in danger of being deleted. Speaking personally, I have written many dozen new articles, have never once used the AFC/draft/review process, and none of my articles has been deleted. That is probably because I am systematic rather than impulsive, and I studied the policies and guidelines for months before writing my first article in 2009. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  04:21, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Is the competition International Piano Competition “Johann Sebastian Bach” Würzburg / Germany, ? It sounds like the editor concerned needs to be warned about their potential conflict of interest. Cordless Larry (talk) 06:32, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys. Yep, that's the one .  Thanks for taking care of the COI notification.  Bromley86 (talk) 08:17, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

How can i remove USER when my page is been search?
I want to know how i can edit my page when ever i like and also how i can remove USER From my page when it's been searched. I also want to know how i can be able to set my page so it can not be edited by viewers.

Thank you.(Gen. Paul Donald (talk) 12:07, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but you've stuck your head above the parapet, so to speak.  You're not allowed to have a userpage that looks like a resume.  I'll hunt down the regs for you.  Bromley86 (talk) 12:21, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I knew I'd seen it recently - it's still on this page. Have a look at this section below.  Bromley86 (talk) 12:23, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Turns out it was a spoof page. Still, the U5 should still hold.  Bromley86 (talk) 13:26, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It has been archived. And as long as I'm editing an archived page,, all Wikipedia pages can be edited by anyone as long as they follow the rules.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  18:26, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

merging stubs and changing titles
I have merged a stub--Value-rational action--into an existing article--Instrumental action. I now wish to rename main article as Instrumental action and Value-rational action, and redirect the stub. Please show me how. Thanks.TBR-qed (talk) 17:12, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi TBR-qed. You need to fix the copyright infringement you (I'm sure unintentionally) engaged in. You must provide copyright attribution when you merge content. Please read the instructions at Merging and Copying within Wikipedia and especially that page's subsection at WP:PATT. Though easier to do in the first place, this can be fixed using dummy edits. Here's my suggestion for the whole shebang:


 * 1) If you're sure this meets WP:AND, per your talk page proposal, move the page to Instrumental action and value-rational action – note the lowercase "v", I don't think the V should be upper case as you suggested it – or should the title maybe be, more concisely Instrumental and value-rational action?
 * 2) Redirect the page at Value-rational action to the title you have moved the other to, also placing on the page and leave a copyright attribution edit summary when you do so like: "Content merged to Name ;
 * 3) Make a dummy edit to the title you moved, providing a copyright attribution edit summary like: Note: prior edits by me merged content from Value-rational action ; see that page's history for attribution.
 * Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:45, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks; very helpful; but some fog remains. I mostly understand redirect, but not "R from merge".  What does that mean, and what goes in that space, if "R from merge" is filler?  The copyright infringement and dummy edits I understand not at all.  Can you give me some more pointers.  GratefullyTBR-qed (talk) 21:40, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I have read the wp:copyright infringement policy. It appears to apply to posting someone else's work as original, which is not what I did.  I replaced existing wording with new material, and fail to see how that infringes.  Please clarify.TBR-qed (talk) 13:46, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The stub consists of 2 sentences and 1 source. Is this automatically copyrighted?TBR-qed (talk) 15:36, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

How to create a page about an educational organization?
Marwadi Education Foundation Group of Institutions is in academics since 2009. I want to create a page for them.. How can I ?Marwadimagnus (talk) 05:02, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Your first challenge is to be able to demonstrate that this topic is notable, as Wikipedia defines that term. That goes hand in hand with providing references to significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. If your topic does not have that type of coverage, save yourself a lot of frustration, and move on to something else. If it does, then please read Your first article, and follow all its advice. Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  05:47, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I would like to restate its advice to use the Articles for Creation draft review process if you develop an article, rather than just entering the article in article space. This process provides review by an experienced editor and feedback.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:51, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Notoriety
Hi,

My article was recently declined do to a lack of notoriety for the subject of Hollywood, CA based architecture studio, 5+design. The firm has been around for 11 years after it merged out of the Jerde Partnership and has gone on to be involved in high level projects around the world. I've posted several sources that can verify the studio's importance. Does anyone know what else can be done? Mila Sabreen (talk) 17:33, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

The notice also explains what you need to do - add references showing the practice has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Currently, you have cited no sources whatsoever; as the refusal notice states, these must be added so that all the information is verifiable, and demonstrate that the practice is "notable", and should be formatted as explained in Help:Referencing for beginners - Arjayay (talk) 17:44, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Mila Sabreen - I think you need to read the refusal notice at Draft:5+design more carefully - the article was not refused for lack of notoriety, but lack of proven notability.

Company notablility?
Hi, a have been working on an article about an independent fledgling game company. I was wondering, what do i need to have in the article or for the article, to make it usable for wiki? Arcmind (talk) 18:51, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse. If you read the feedback message on Draft:Vex Robotics Design System, and on your user talk page, you will see a number of words or phrases in blue, which indicated that these are wikilinks to further information which you need to read. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Thanks! Arcmind (talk) 20:34, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

3 questions including, wife is ex-wife but no source; pdf upload grief; reliable sources denied
My questions are about this wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Alcock

1- Two things I'm initially stuck on: - I have a media article I want to add, but it's a pdf not a URL. I can't figure out how to add it to a Media list?

2 - In the editing, the media articles look like they're listed one per line. But when i go to the wikipedia webpage, they're all text wrapped, instead of numbered bullet points. How come?

Lost Lisa -Playethic (talk) 03:29, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, . I'm guessing that you are talking about the references. References are used to support information in the article, and the important bit of them is the bibliographic information (date, title, author, where published etc) - a URL is a helpful convenience, not a requirement. Having said that, if the source has been posted on the web as a PDF, a URL to it should work fine. (If what you mean is that you have a PDF that is not on the web, then that is not acceptable as a source, because there is no way of telling its provenance. If it has been published, a citation to its original publication would be acceptable. If it hasn't, it can never be used as a reference).
 * As you say, references appear in the code where they are used (i.e. immediately following the statement they are used to support): the software handles their display and numbering. Please see referencing for beginners for more information. --ColinFine (talk) 11:42, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You appear to have attempted to create a list of references manually,, whereas this is actually something done by the Wikipedia software. See the link that Colin provided for more details. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:49, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I think the second part of the question was referring to the "Media" section of the version of the article before . As well as not having read WP:REFB, the questioner had presumably not read Line-break handling. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:55, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) Hi Playethic, welcome to the Teahouse. Your edits have been reverted. The version at the time of your post is [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bruce_Alcock&oldid=719647929 here]. Where is the pdf article you want to add? If it's only on your own computer then where is the article originally from? See Help:Referencing for beginners for how to make numbered references. You can also edit a page to see how things are done there. Old references can be copied from the edit window of an old page version. Click the "View history" tab to see the page history. If you try to copy from the rendered version of a page then you lose all the important source code. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:57, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm disappointed that my Wikipedia update was deleted and reverted in full. I read the pages you asked me to look at but still have a few questions...

- The current Wikipedia entry talks about his wife in 2000. She is no longer his wife, he many years ago remarried and now runs the company with his current wife. But I have no source for this, we just know as fact But it seems a significant Wikipedia error/update. What do I do about that not having a source so not being accepted?

- I don't understand why some media references I added, like the Globe and Mail Canada's national newspaper, were deleted. (1.	"Plein Feux sur le travail de Bruce Alcock". CBC French Radio-Canada - [Bring the time line to the 16:44 minute]. May 2016.  http://ici.radio-canada.ca/emissions/boulevard_du_pacifique/2015-2016/archives.asp?date=2016-05-02. 2.    "Marketing ye olde handcrafted signs in a digital age: Experts weight in".  Globe and Mail / Report on Business].  22 January 2014.  Retrieved 10 May 2016.   [http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/small-business/sb-growth/the-challenge/marketing-ye-olde-handcrafted-charm-in-a-digital-age/article16431977/ )

- It looks from the link WP:REFB you asked me to read, that the pdf should be acceptable with the preface that [Author says], as it was an opinion column in a magazine. However the pdf no longer has a URL. I'm confused about how I can upload it and if it can be accepted.

Playethic (talk) 20:58, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Sources don't actually have to be available online to use as references,, so you can cite a published magazine column even if the PDF version is no longer online. The reason why your "media references" were removed is that you did not insert them as footnote references, but rather manually in their own section, with no indication of which parts of the article that they are supposed to support. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Okay... can you help with the wife/divorce/new wife (who is CEO) issue, and how to change this significant factual error when there is no source for it? Playethic (talk) 22:19, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Also, I have a reference/source that is French radio (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation). Am I permitted to use that (non-English but reputable source)? Playethic (talk) 22:27, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Wife fact (divorced now) but no source; French references?
My questions got sort of buried in the Teahouse, so I'm posting anew:

Can you help with the wife/divorce/new wife (who is CEO) issue, and how to change this significant factual error when there is no source for it? Playethic (talk) 22:19, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Also, I have a reference/source that is French radio (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation). Am I permitted to use that (non-English but reputable source)? Playethic (talk) 22:27, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Playethic (talk) 23:46, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Unsourced personal information should be removed from a biography of a living person. It is OK to use a reliable source in another language in a reference if an English language reference is not readily available. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  00:09, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

What are possible chance to get El Nino?
Well, it caused by the happens to get a super typhoon called Haiyan? &#60;font color&#61;&#34;sky blue&#34;&#39;&#39;&#39;Gzkefpro&#39;&#39;&#39;&#60;/font&#62; (talk) 03:48, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . The Teahouse is a place for asking and answering questions about how to edit Wikipedia. For general knowledge questions, please try the Reference desk. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  03:55, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

TOC for mobile pages?
I have two separate but related questions:
 * 1) Is there any way to add a table of contents to the mobile version of my talk page? I would like to be able to find particular items in that page without scrolling through the whole thing.
 * 2) Is there any way to view a page's table of contents in the mobile view? Obviously, unlike my own userspace pages, there should not be a way for me to force a visible table of contents onto a mainspace page, but is there any way that I can see it? When you open a mobile page, all you see of it is the introductory section and the titles of the collapsed top-level (H2) sections. If it's an article you're not familiar with and you're looking for some particular kind of detail about the subject, if that material is in a subsection, the only way to find it is to open and scroll through every top-level section that seems like it might contain it. In a long and detailed article that can be an awful waste of time.--Thnidu (talk) 19:17, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * This does not answer your question, but it may be helpful. If you are looking at any Wikipedia page on a mobile, you can scroll to the bottom and select "desktop" instead of "mobile". That gets you the desktop version of the page, complete with ToC. And the device (mine, anyway) remembers the setting, at least while I am logged in to Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 21:50, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but on my smartphone screen the print on the desktop is incredibly tiny, and very hard to read.--Thnidu (talk) 22:43, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * , on the version of the Android app that I'm using, there's a floating icon at the bottom right of the screen to get the TOC for the current page. --ColinFine (talk) 11:31, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I generally prefer to use Firefox, but this may make the app worth while -- for me personally; that's not a negative review. --Thnidu (talk) 04:25, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

How to edit or update an existing article on wiki
I want to understand how should you write about organisations as I tried updating some information on WIKI earlier and all my updations were revoked saying its promotional content. Which I personally felt it wasn't. Can anyone explain or highlight what was wrong in the article I postedNids87 (talk) 08:28, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * And which article would that be? Ian.thomson (talk) 08:31, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I tried updating content about WaterHealth International and all the changes got declined and they were reverted back. Not really sure was my style of writing incorrectNids87 (talk) 09:17, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * For your reference, Please check the link shared:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nidhi_kachru#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_sandbox_.28May_5.29

Nids87 (talk) 09:18, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The reason why your edits were reverted was explained clearly to you at User talk:Nidhi kachru. You have been blocked from editing, and to reappear with a new username is WP:sockpuppetry. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:22, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * What should be the next steps to unblock my self .. could you please explain that183.82.106.145 (talk) 09:35, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The process for appealing the block is explained in the block notice at User talk:Nidhi kachru. Until then you must not edit anywhere on Wikipedia, including here, whether using a second user name or under an IP address. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:42, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * As clearly me intentions aren't misleading or fraudulent in nature is just that I'm new to wiki and want to understand the platform better and work out things on it which I plan to edit183.82.106.145 (talk) 09:37, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Since your intentions, to present the most positive case for your client, are completely different from those of Wikipedia, which is to present a neutral point of view, it isn't clear how you can contribute to Wikipedia within its policies and guidelines. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:27, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Can I change my user name?
The title is self-explanatory.

CaptainWill98 (talk) 18:14, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi CaptainWill98. You can make a request. See Changing username. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:07, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Changing a photo
Hello all, I was trying to update a photo  I would love your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cfgobabygo (talk • contribs) 16:11, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You have only uploaded one photo, here. What help do you need? Maproom (talk) 16:26, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * For updating existing photos, please see Uploading images. -- The Voidwalker  Discuss 19:14, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Can i insert a custom sized table instead of a 4x4?
Currently, Im about to convert Leonardo Nam's filmography section into a table. When i create the table, it always starts out at 4x4. Is there a function that lets me manually type in, lets say, 10x3? or I have to manually change it to that? Etimena (talk) 14:31, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse. In the editing toolbar above the edit window, click on the "Advanced" drop-down, then on the table icon at the right-hand end of the toolbar.  You can then select the table size. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:53, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Etimena. The above answer is for the source editor. I see you normally use VisualEditor. It appears tables are initially created as 4×4 there, but you can click a cell and then click the arrow in that row or column to insert or remove one row or column. It requires some clicks to get to 10 rows. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:19, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

How can I get my article approved for publishing?
Where can I find more reliable sources for my article subject? It is on an unreleased music project from a group of brand-new artists and thus doesn't have many external credible sources at this time. Kamikazela4lyf (talk) 19:36, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse You need to establish notability by adding references that show there is widespread coverage of the alibum in reliable sources, if there are no sources then sadly we cannot have an article about it on Wikipedia.Theroadislong (talk) 19:51, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Convenience link to draft article Draft:Crenshaw Boulevard (album) Theroadislong (talk) 20:18, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Please read our notability guideline for albums. In all honesty, it is highly unlikely that an unrecorded album by brand new artists would be notable, due to lack of coverage by independent, reliable sources. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  23:54, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Page365
I reviewed Draft:Page365 and declined it as providing insufficient context. I frankly didn’t understand what the lede sentence was trying to say.

The author, User: Scomma, then wrote:

Thank you for the feedback on our draft: Page365 article page. In that article you commented about "What is meant by a "sales engine built on the ground up for social commerce"? (Also, provide a reference for that claim." Instead of explaining those is it possible for us to re-write them with different wording thus it will be easier to understand for anyone who is unfamiliar with the subject? or should I use the other term that wikipedia already has?

If there is a term that Wikipedia already has, using it would be helpful. Alternatively, the lede paragraph should explain what the subject is and does. I will also note that the references are a mixture of reliable and unreliable sources. The unreliable sources include Facebook, LinkedIn, and press releases. Do other experienced editors care to comment further? Robert McClenon (talk) 00:34, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Steven Franks
I reviewed Draft:Steven Franks and declined it as not showing the subject’s notability, noting that Allmusic is not a reliable source (and Wikipedia is not a source at all but a cross-reference). The author, User: Princessanna2018, then asked:

I would like to know if this would fit under Biographies of living persons? I also had banres and noble as a source. It's difficult to find music industry credits other than the album itself our sites like allmusic. Are there suggestions?

Steven Franks is (based on your use of the present tense) a living person. Any article that mentions a living person is subject to the biographies of living persons policy, which is intended to protect living persons from inaccurate statements. As to reliable sources about him, have music reviews referred to his work in producing the music, or have music magazines discussed his work? Do other experienced editors care to comment further? Robert McClenon (talk) 00:35, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * My thinking is that a list of producing credits, even if properly sourced, does not make a record producer notable. Instead, we need significant coverage of this person in independent, reliable sources. I see none of that in the draft or in a quick Google search. The Billboard reference does not even mention the person. I suggest you remove that, . The subject of the draft article is not the Chris Brown album. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  01:08, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Does the list of articles needing editing still exist?
I used to have an editor account which used to be sent a suggested list of articles to edit as a learning/starting point for wikipedia editing. Having forgotten my password, I have created a new account but can't find the same list - does it still exist? Cut-price tractor (talk) 23:32, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit Robert McClenon (talk) 00:47, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You might mean User:SuggestBot. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 07:45, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, not exactly what I recall from 3-4 years back, but more or less the same effect. Can use that as a starting point, so thank you! Cut-price tractor (talk) 01:10, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * In addition to these, Community portal is updated frequently with a variety of articles that can be improved. <span class="plainlinks" style="background: rgba(0,0,0,.05);">— JoeHebda • (talk) 13:13, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, will check that out also. Cut-price tractor (talk) 01:10, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Can a Wikipedia article be translated to another language?
Can an editor translate word for word an article from the English-language Wikipedia onto the corresponding article of a different language? Do the Wikipedia rules allow that? Or does a foreign language article have to be different and cannot copy the English version? Lupine453 (talk) 18:34, 12 May 2016 (UTC) We welcome people translating our articles, provided the correct copyright attribution is given - please see Translate us for the full explanation. - Arjayay (talk) 19:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Lupine453
 * Whether the translation should be essentially word-for-word, a formal equivalence, or should be somewhat freer but still a dynamic equivalence, is a matter of judgment for the translator, and may depend on how grammatically similar the languages are. In any case, translations, as noted above, are welcome with proper attribution.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:45, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

==I would like to ask if how to change topic about Dumaguete on Hotel and Tourism since you mentioned about the opening of Mercure Hotel in Dumaguete which will no longer happen. Instead of Mercure Hotel the new hotel name is Bravo Resorts, Sibulan==

I would like to correct the article about Dumaguete specifically on Hotel & Tourism which Wikipedia mentioned on the opening of Mercure hotel in Dumaguete. Mercure Management and the hotel owner decided not to continue the management service of Mercure but instead owner of the hotel will management the hotel which is named BRAVO RESORTS Sibulan.

We will appreciate the correction about the said article soon.

Thank you,

Cha

Bravo Resorts, Sibulan

Dumags (talk) 07:39, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse In order to change the sourced reference to "Mercure Hotel" in Dumaguete to "Bravo Resorts, Sibulan" we would need a reliable source for the change. I can't find one. —teb728 t c 08:15, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

please help me upload a photo to the infobox
Last week I uploaded a picture to the 'infobox medical person' of my first article with no problems. Today, though, as I'm trying to add a photo to the 'infobox medical person' of my second article, I can't seem to do it correctly. Would someone help me please? Here's the link to the photo I uploaded to Wikpedia (with the permission of the University of Louisville Digital Library). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arthur_T_McCormack.jpeg Drvalsummers (talk) 02:11, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks like you figured the problem on your own, . A single extra or missing character in a file name will prevent an image from displaying properly. This is an area where tiny typographical errors create big problems. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  02:20, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I figured it out and all is well...But, being new to Wikipedia, I welcome editing suggestions. Drvalsummers (talk) 02:22, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * You do need to ensure either that the photo is free of copyright, or that the copyright holder has donated the copyright using the process for donating copyrighted material, or that detailed non-free content criteria are given for each use. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:36, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I was given permission (via email) by the University of Louisville Digital Library Collection to use the photograph. Will that be enough proof? Drvalsummers (talk) 02:43, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, if the permission is sufficient (giving anyone – and not just Wikipedia – the right to use the photo for any purpose – including commercially; cf. c:COM:Email templates), and the permission is forwarded to OTRS. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:49, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * No. Please read WP:donating copyrighted material. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:47, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The current permissions for this image are not acceptable, . If the image is to be freely licensed on Wikimedia Commons, then the copyright holder (whoever that is), must make that unambiguously clear in writing. If the copyright holder is not known, then the image cannot be licensed freely. There is another possibility, though. Wikipedia allows limited use of non-free images. One such exception is for portraits of people who are no longer alive. Please see our policy on use of non-free images, specifically criterion #10. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  04:38, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * However,, the photo is old enough that it may be in the public domain. You might inquire at the University of Louisville Digital Library Collection about its copyright status. —teb728 t c 08:38, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

why a brit actrees cannot be added to notable deaths 2016
hi i tried adding victoria wood as notable deaths this year,but was told she wasnt nominated fir anything,,she did a film,housewife 49,shes screen writer,comedian etc etc,,why cannot she be addesed?.....ronnie corbet was n he did no films....78.144.133.112 (talk) 20:22, 11 May 2016 (UTC)Andrew78.144.133.112 (talk) 20:22, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Andrew probably because as the person who reverted your edit said, she has no film credits, TV drama like Housewife 49 yes but that isn't a film. Ronnie Corbett does have at least one film credit - Casino Royale to his name. Nthep (talk) 20:33, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Her death is already listed in 2016 in the United Kingdom, 2016 in British television, Deaths in April 2016, Portal:Current events/April 2016, and she was in "Recent deaths" on Main Page for four days (see Main Page history/2016 April 21). You tried to add her to 2016 in film. That article is for theatrical films. She made several tv films but that is outside the scope of the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:43, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * yes but in britain housewife 49 is a film,, n not a drama piece of work,,,78.145.92.52 (talk) 15:42, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * It's a television film, because it was released on TV rather than at a theatre/cinema. The article 2016 in film is about theatrical films, and it doesn't look like she made/appeared in any theatrical films. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:47, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * ok but she does have other noteable qualities on her pf here78.145.92.52 (talk) 09:43, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Download pictures
How do I download pictures please? Pamelajefferson (talk) 19:24, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, . Are you sure you mean "download", i.e. from Wikipedia to your computer? If so, that will depend on your browser, but usually a right-click will allow you to. Most people who ask about this are actually asking about uploading - from your computer to Wikipedia. If that is what you want, be aware that Wikipedia is very picky about copyright questions, but see Help:Upload--ColinFine (talk) 20:41, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes thanks I meant upload Pamelajefferson (talk) 20:46, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I wanted to upload pictures of programmes, newsletter publications. Do I try to post them to the source reference, or do they need to be sent somewhere first for approval? Thanks Pamelajefferson (talk) 20:50, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello again . I'm not sure what you mean by "newsletter publication", or "the source reference". Normally, in order to upload a picture, it must have been explicitly released by the copyright holder under a suitable licence such as WP:CC-BY-SA (which will allow anybody to reuse it for any purpose, even commercially, as long as they attribute it properly). If the copyright holder has not already released it (eg by a copyright statement on their website), they can do so by sending a mail to Wikimedia according to WP:Donating copyright materials. Alternatively, if the image is in the public domain (generally either because it is old enough, or it has been placed in the public domain by the copyright holder, as the US government does for many images it produces). In a very limited set of circumstances it is possible to upload images which are not free, as long as they are used in a way which satisfies all the conditions in the non-free copyright criteria: book covers, posters, and programmes are some of the things which sometimes are accepted in this way, but it depends on what article they are to be used to illustrate.
 * If your images satisfy one or other of these criteria, you need to upload them (to Wikimedia Commons if they are free, or to Wikipedia if they are non-free): see the Upload wizard. --ColinFine (talk) 22:43, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello . Am I sensing correctly that you want upload pictures of documents to verify article content? If so, that's not the way it works: content on Wikipedia is not a reliable source. —teb728 t c 10:01, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

How to De-orphan an article
"Jagvinder Singh VIrk" This article is marked as orphan Please suggest me to De Orphan it59.93.215.4 (talk) 07:35, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse. WP:Orphan defines an orphan as "an article with no links from other pages in the main article namespace", so what you need to do is find articles which ought to link to Jagvinder Singh Virk and add links from those articles. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:08, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * you mean to say that one or more articles should have a reference to article "jagvinder singh virk" but how it is possible for a newly created article that some other page has links about articleSn6054884 (talk) 08:43, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Obviously a newly-created article won't have incoming links unless redlinks existed. Redlinks are one of the things which might hopefully prompt the creation of a new article.  The point is that one of the things which you should do after creating an article is to create incoming links where they don't already exist.  See Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:26, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * can you please elaborate as i am new to this platformSn6054884 (talk) 10:41, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Revert
I am currently taking a wikibreak. Just visited the page Mustafizur Rahman and found all messed up. I requested for protection of the page a few weeks ago but it was rejected. I would really appreciated if someone takes some time and revert the page to this version. Thanks! Ikhtiar H (talk) 13:06, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

About article Deletion
I create a page about and organisation with suitable references and external links but it was deleted by wikipedia. Please help about the page Chandigarh Handball Association. It is a affiliated state organisation of Handball Federation of India. Please help to create this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiupdater1997 (talk • contribs) 14:22, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Chandigarh Handball Association was deleted three times in 2014, each time because it didn't indicate why the subject was significant. I can find no evidence of a more recent creation, so if you thought you were creating it from this account (which is only a month old), I think you must have failed to save it. If you are trying to create an article, I strongly advise you to use the articles for creation process: that will not protect you against failing to save your work, but it will make it unlikely that the draft will get deleted while you are working on it. --ColinFine (talk) 17:08, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Draft on user talk page
If my article has notability and I typed it in User talk, how do I then publish it? SocialWork101 (talk) 03:52, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . I have moved your question to its own section, because it was unlikely to get noticed hidden away under an existing question's heading. I will also move the draft to the correct place for you. For future reference, please see Help:How to move a page. Cordless Larry (talk) 06:14, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * In particular, Cordless Larry moved it to Draft:Diana Garland. It is in draft space and has not yet been submitted to AFC for review.  It will not be reviewed until it is submitted for review.  I will comment that, at present, it is not likely to be accepted without a rework of its language, because of tone issues, because it is promotional or hagiographic with respect to Garland.  The next step is either to submit it for review, and probably receive that comment in a decline, and then rework it, or rework the language and then submit it.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:12, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

changing title; infringing copyright
I have rewritten Instrumental action so that it covers Value-rational action. I want to rename the former “Instrumental and value-rational action,” and redirect those consulting Value-rational action to the new title. 1) How do I change the current title Instrumental action?  2)  Will this involve any copyright questions? Appreciatively, TBR-qed (talk) 13:42, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Rename pages by moving them.
 * 2) Because Wikipedia is licensed under CC BY-SA, copying within Wikipedia doesn't present significant copyright issues, provided that you document it properly in the edit summaries.
 * All said and done, I'd appreciate if the Teahouse hosts would chime in on the advisability of the merge of "value-rational action" to "instrumental action". I'm not familiar with political science or with undoing page moves, so another opinion would be nice. Rotideypoc41352 (talk) 22:57, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Since this page move is likely to need an admin to undo (by leaving a redirect with non-trivial history), you probably should suggest this on the talk page of both articles first. If no one objects after 1 week, you are good to go. Happy Squirrel (talk) 23:04, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments. I crave feedback on both content and markup procedures.  I expressed my intentions on the Instrumental action talk page 8 months ago, and on value-rational talk page a week ago.  Zero response.TBR-qed (talk) 18:37, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Adding an episodes template / description box to a TV show page
Under the episodes sub-head in this page -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_%26_Moxy -- I'd like to add descriptions, like the templates you would see in most TV show pages. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Better_Call_Saul_episodes

Is there a simple way to do this without having to know HTML? Thanks in advance!

69.181.128.250 (talk) 19:38, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . There is a way to do this without having to know HTML, but I don't know that it is simple. A table of the kind in List of Better Call Saul episodes is made of a combination of Template:Episode table and Template:Episode list. These aren't HTML but are Wikipedia structures. See the section Template:Episode list for an explanation of how to use both and how they go together. StarryGrandma (talk) 04:53, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Review article for ATP Electronics
Hi, I've created a page Draft:ATP Electronics in attempt to move the article public, it was rejected once for notability, and I have since then added more references I've considered notable, Can anyone at the teahouse assess / review Draft:ATP Electronics to see if more improvements can be made ? Thank you for the help T.L Cheng ( ATP Electronics ) (talk) 10:39, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . The best way to request a review is to hit the submit/resubmit button on the template at the top of the draft, rather than asking here. We can help you to understand why a draft has been rejected, and how to improve it, but the Teahouse doesn't exist to review drafts. Cordless Larry (talk) 05:32, 14 May 2016 (UTC)