Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 496

Conflict of Interest - please advise
I'm the new Communications Manager for a Not for Profit company that has had some political issues in the past.

The Wikipedia page has an unfavourable focus on the negative aspects and the company has asked me to update it as the issues have been resolved, one or two of the people used as sources have had their wrists slapped and we've(mostly) all moved on.

I come from a social media and management background and have no experience of Wikipedia. I originally set this account up to bring the company's page up to date with full transparency. However, a chance conversation with an 'expert' contributor suggests that this is frowned upon. Do I, in your opinions, set up a personal account, declare my CoI and edit away? Carry on as company account and declare CoI? Or go back and tell the company I can't do this for them?

Thoughts please. NFSP comms (talk) 10:22, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


 * I believe that what you should do is abandon the account you used to post the above (it may well be blocked soon anyway), create yourself a personal account, declare your Conflict of Interest on your new user page, and post your suggestions for corrections and improvements on the article's talk page, where impartial editors will decide whether to act on them. Maproom (talk) 10:28, 17 June 2016 (UTC).


 * Hi, . Welcome to the Teahouse, and thanks for coming here and asking.
 * The answer is, the first. You should definitely create a personal account (you don't have to use your real name: many accounts are pseudonymous), as shared and role accounts are not permitted, and neither are account names which suggest that they are being used on behalf of an organisation. You must declare your COI (see WP:PAID). Then you should suggest the changes on the article's talk page: the more specific you make them, and the better you source them (to independent reliable sources), the more likely it is that somebody will apply your edits. But it is worth explaining to the company that your options are limited, and that the company does not have any control whatever over the Wikipedia article about it.
 * You say that "one or two of the people used as sources have had their wrists slapped". If that means that there are new reliable sources, independent of NFSP (news reports, for example), which present a different view, then these may be referenced, and the article altered accordingly. But if this has not resulted in any independently published items, then the article should not be altered, as it reflects what the independent reliable sources say. --ColinFine (talk) 10:38, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

IP edits
Hi, I was editing my talk page today; don't know how but I got logged out and saw my IP ! I went to check its contributions and got strange edits, which were never made by me! WHAT'S WRONG HERE?! INVISIBLEknock! 04:49, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Invisible Guy. I think there's anything wrong. It's quite common for an IP address to be "shared" by multiple people accessing the Internet from the same area, So, someone else using that IP address just made those edits. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:56, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I wish If I could block my IP from editing. INVISIBLEknock! 04:58, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * If the IP was blocked from editing, then everyone using it, including you yourself, would probably not be able to edit from it. Most people share an IP address with others in their area. Perhaps think of it as a zip code for everyone using the Internet in your area. Maybe there is a way to get an "individual IP address" for your exclusive use. Try asking at WP:RD/C. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:30, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Eh! Thanks for your help INVISIBLEknock! 06:16, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * You could color the save page button in your account so you can see you are logged in before clicking it. Place the below or another color in . PrimeHunter (talk) 11:05, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

input#wpSave { background-color: green; }
 * Done, It's an awesome idea! Thanks INVISIBLEknock! 11:11, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Does anybody know how to change the name of the title of an article ?
Does anybody know how to change the name of the title of an article ? Diegof1997 (talk) 12:29, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Diegof1997, welcome to the Teahouse. A title is changed by moving the page but your account is too new to be able to make moves. Which move do you want? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Help Me!
I don't get the thing about that Books of Malory Towers written by Pamela Cox has been reviewed. By reviewed it means that it can reviewed and has been successfully one of the articles of Wikipedia or is it proposed for deletion? Amy2563 (talk) 15:11, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey and welcome to the Teahouse! Your article being patrolled/reviewed means that another editor has check the article and has reviewed it to whether it meets any speedy deletion criteria or Wikipedia nobility criteria. In your instance, an editor had reviewed and marked your article as an Article for Deletion for others to discuss whether the book meets Wikipedia's nobility for books or other issues.  A dog 104  Talk to me 16:11, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Greetings !

I have seen the note which describes that discussion is still continuing but I want to know is that what should I do to improve the article? I'm not quite sure! Amy2563 (talk) 16:52, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Taking a look at the AFD, the main points are to seem with the Books nobility, reliable sources, and its poorly source references. So in suggestion I would check your article with WP:BK and find more reliable sources to improve the article.
 * Now, seeing as so far everyone is saying 'delete', it's not the end of the world if your article is deleted (trust me, I've had similar experiences where I didn't agree when I started editing on Wikipedia, but I learned well from them and it improved my well-being), if it so happens to be deleted then I would suggest improving Malory Towers, since that is closely related to what your article is and check out WP:YFA which is a helper to creating new article for the next time round.  A dog 104  Talk to me 17:33, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

How do I change the title of a draft?
Hello, I recently started a draft on the video game Insurgency. When trying to obtain permission for the use of their trademarked logos, the CFO of the company who developed the game requested that I insert a registered (®) mark after every reference to the term "Insurgency." Because I had already created the draft before I received this request, the title does not have the symbol. Is there any way that I can edit the title or should I just start a new draft?

Sdasponser (talk) 17:49, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Sdasponser, welcome to the Teahouse. Organizations don't control articles about them and use of ® is against Manual of Style/Trademarks. Draft:Insurgency (Video Game) should not get a trademark symbol in the title. If the draft is submitted and accepted then the symbols in the text will probably be removed. A symbol in the title would certainly be removed. See also Paid-contribution disclosure. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:30, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you PrimeHunter for your response. I will make the necessary changes. Sdasponser (talk) 18:42, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Asking for Improvements of Article
Hello, I have Written the article Mini Militia. And I gratefully request you to improve it.Thanks. Laxnesh LOKEN (talk) 17:53, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


 * If it isn't notable, there's nothing that we can do. Please see this for more. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 21:37, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Baahubali: The Conclusion
How to edit this page? Ratan Singh (talk) 07:01, 18 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, Ratan Singh.

To edit, all you do is press on the edit button which is located next to the heading or subheading, or at the top right of the page.

Thanks, and if you need help just ask on my talk page. :)

East Anglian Regional (talk) 11:07, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * S/He maybe can't edit that article, as that's semi-protected. You can make edit request. <b style="background-color:#08CEF9;color:black">IN</b><b style="background-color:black;color:#08CEF9">VISIBLE</b>knock! 11:36, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Logging in
Is there a way to see when a different user last logged in? Thanks →  The Pancake of Heaven!  14:07, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi The Pancake of Heaven!. Such information is not public. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:41, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Best you can do is check their contributions list, which tells you when they lasted edited. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:26, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, . Also worth considering is that many active editors,  myself included, stay logged in pretty much continuously. I believe that the software logs people out after 30 days.  So,  the last time a highly active editor logged in is likely of no significance at all.  <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  00:25, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks! →  The Pancake of Heaven!  13:13, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Conflict of interest
Does conflict of interest apply to organisations you once worked for, whether recently or a long time ago? For instance, I found an article on an organisation I used to work with (not directly, but it was like the parent body). I would like to edit and update the information on that page. Do I need to declare COI seeing I left their sphere of work about 6 years ago? BroVic (talk) 12:45, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I am not an expert in these matters but my interpretation is that it is safest to declare a potential conflict of interest, rather than be accused of it at a later stage. It is worth remembering that COI does not necessarily prevent you from making edits, it just means you need to be more careful.  I hope someone can confirm this for you. DrChrissy (talk) 14:47, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Just as a follow-up, there is a similar thread below with the heading "Conflict of Interest - please advise". DrChrissy (talk) 14:52, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Quick help
What's the JavaScript code to reload page? <b style="background-color:#08CEF9;color:black">IN</b><b style="background-color:black;color:#08CEF9">VISIBLE</b>knock! 07:18, 18 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Greetings and welcome once again to the Teahouse! Happy to answer your question with two options:
 * To reload a page (called Purge in Wiki-speak), see Template:Purge button for wikicode to adding this feature to a page.
 * To add this option to your toolbar menu (after you are Logged in), go to Preferences / Gadgets / Appearance section.
 * Here choose Add a "Purge" option to the top of the page, which purges the page's cache. Then Save.
 * Hope this helps. Regards, <span class="plainlinks" style="background: rgba(0,0,0,.05);">— JoeHebda • (talk) 15:18, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

In what way i need to create a official page
In what way i need to create a official pageCreativesystemglobals (talk) 06:24, 18 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse . Unfortunately if you're writing a Wikipedia article about a company you work for, mind you, it may be in best to check out what Wikipedia is not (WP:PROMO and WP:SPAM) and to see if the company is Notable (WP:CORP) as writing an article about your own company is discouraged; unless you can make it have a neutral point of view and have reliable sources, then check WP:YFA.  A dog 104  Talk to me 13:55, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The concept of an "official page" for a company is a common misconception in Wikipedia. No company has ownership of an article about it, and the conflict of interest policy applies.  Any page about a company or anything else may be edited freely subject to basic policies such as verifiability via reliable sources.  We do not have "official pages" for companies.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:54, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, vandalizing the page on a film in order to advertise a company violates multiple other Wikipedia policies. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:56, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

assumed audience when discussing locations - linking to newly named things
Should national audience always be assumed when writing an article? For instance, I am drafting an article for 82 year old arts organization in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.

Side note: I have spoken with a few editors on Teahouse about notability and their response has seems to reflect the idea that if the organization meets regional/state interest (from reputable third sources) then it should be fine.

Which leads me to my question, the truth is that most people will be locals and understand if I state "moved headquarters to 4th street in downtown (cited). However if I assume a national audience member I would need to add full address information, which seems rather formal "i.e "moved headquarters to 4th street, in Winston-Salem, NC"  Should we always assume and write for a national audience, even when a regional audience is the most likely reader?"

Is there a policy when it comes to a using internal links for something which is now called different from your citation? For instance, my source, cites the organization actively involved in the fight against infantile paralysis, but the internal Wiki link article uses it's current full medial name of Poliomyelitis. Did I use the original name in my cited source (infantile paralysis) and in my article and then link to the new name? Or should I Poliomyelitis in my original article, even though that word is not used in my cited source? Thanks in advance. I'm running into a lot of things "That used to be called something else" or are "called something new, but my source cites the old name. Some help would be apprecaited.Philip.mark.powell (talk) 00:12, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . When we write Wikipedia articles, our audience is all English language readers worldwide. So, you should write thinking about the needs of a second language reader in India or Nigeria. Please see WP:AUDIENCE for the section of an essay on that discusses this concept.


 * As for source terminology, use what the source uses. In some cases, you can add an explanatory phrase if the old usage is obscure to modern readers. In the case you mentioned,  a redirect takes readers to the relevant article. If a redirect does not exist,  you can create one if that is appropriate. Otherwise,  you can use a technique called piped links to take the reader to the article that best explains the linked term. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  02:32, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

How are words defined?
I understand Wikipedia is not a dictionary, but I'm confused as to where a word's meaning should come from. There are competing dictionaries, wiktionary will define a word but also its usage to mean something else, and different sources may use different style guides, some are unreleased, and some use none at all. If it's consensus, then what should I use to determine my position? The specific word I'm thinking of is 'selfie'. It has a wikipedia page, with a lead, but no source. Also, how should I think about words like 'mostly', 'typically', 'especially'? Fiachaire (talk) 17:02, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . The lead of an article summarizes the body of that article and there is no need to include references in the lead if that content is properly referenced in the body.  Quotes and controversial assertions must be referenced,  though. In the case of Selfie, there are plenty of references provided that discuss the term in great detail. As for vague qualifying terms like "mostly", "typically" and "especially", these should be used sparingly and with great care. Direct prose is preferred to waffling. Please see Manual of Style/Words to watch for a broader discussion of this issue.  <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  03:03, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

My signature
Hi! I am Peterye2005. I have a question about my signature. I have recently designed a signature which looks like this:

 Peter ye 2005   ——    Let's Talk!  

I tried to change my signature to that in my preferences, but it was too long to fit in that rectangular box where you put in your new signature.

Is there any other way to change my signature to this?

Peterye2005 (talk) 02:58, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . You only have 30 edits to encyclopedia articles and in contrast,  232 edits to your user page. Wikipedia is a project to build and improve an encyclopedia, and is not a social network. Your edit count hints that you do not fully understand our purpose here.  I suggest that you focus on improving encyclopedia articles for a while,  before worrying about fancy signatures. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  04:13, 19 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi! Thanks for the response. I will start to improve wikipedia articles instead of editing my Userpage. I have a question: Is there a very easy and quick method of counting the number of edits made to encyclopedia articles?

Thank you. Peterye2005 (talk) 15:39, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey ; to check your edit summary you could always use this userbox  (see Template:User contrib) which will send you here Overview 1 or you could use the more simple overview here Overview 2.  A dog 104  Talk to me 16:02, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) You can click "Contributions" at the top right and then "Edit count" at the bottom. It varies how responsive the edit counter is. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:06, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

What does a reference mean?
I still don't get what a reference is Chaunceyli (talk) 17:06, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, welcome to the Teahouse. This link may be helpful: Help:Referencing for beginners.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  17:24, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Question from Lessknownhistory
--

Hi!

It's reassuring to be in the friendly Teahouse! But, I am still not sure whether this would reach its intended destination!!.... I am also not sure whether I am still technically informed enough to ask communicative questions. Sad though!!!

1. I have an article nearly done in the Sandbox of my user account : Lessknownhistory. I wish that it becomes more visible to all users with its article title rather than my user name (as it seems to happen now)!! What should I do with the article in my Sandbox? It was moved into its current place once. How do I retain the specific title of the article rather than my username when I do it?(My reading through the instructional material was engaging but confusing! My problem though). Pl do help even if I am asking for the obvious!

2. I have been expecting more uninvited responses from experienced editors. Some visitor traffic seems to have happened. May be the article was somewhat acceptable, no specific suggestion was conveyed. However,

a) it seems that I failed to accept an "Administrator right" that was auto-offered to me several days ago. My naivety!! Could I have higher admin rights if I am worthy of it?

b) I felt the article was protected from unconsidered editing by third parties. It seems I removed that support offered as well..... While I read through and understood basics of creating an article, specifically from where to access certain information and help remains a barrier still.

3. If i do not do anything about the article (if it remains i the sandbox as it is), what will happen to it?

At the risk of being too childlike, let me be, hoping to have a paternal hand offered.

Thanks in advance and regards,

--Lessknownhistory (talk) 17:07, 18 June 2016 (UTC) --

PS: I hope I will have no difficulty seeing any response that this note meets with!!


 * welcome to the Teahouse.
 * You can use the move function to move your sandbox to the main article space. Just use the correct title for the person concerned - I was a bit confused reading it as to what his name was.
 * Pages in the User namespace aren't normally patrolled by regular users, so your sandbox isn't likely to get looked at by anyone unless the specifically go looking for it. It you want it reviewed then add   to the top of the page and this will add it to the WP:Articles for creation queue for review.  If you want to do this, do it before you move it!  Your user access rights will have automatically been upgraded to Autoconfirmed when you reached the number of edits and account age threshold.  Any further rights will have to be asked for, but at the moment I suggest you get more experience of editing before you ask for any.  Although user pages can be edited by anyone, by convention they aren't unless there is a pressing reason that requires then to be edited - for example a copyright issue or a breach of the biographies of living persons policy.
 * Nothing. As it is in your userspace, it will more than likely be ignored by everyone. Nthep (talk) 18:19, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

, you posted two copies of your question(s) and one of them was deleted by mistake along with 's reply. I have restored this in case you missed the answer. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:25, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

How can i put organizations information in wikipedia
i'm Rajendra from creative system. I've just created a office user and want to write something about my office. I'm fully new here. Please guide me.Creativesystemglobals (talk) 05:58, 18 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello,
 * If the page appears to be notable, then all is fine. You suggested creating a page about your office. I can see a few possible problems there. First, draft out the page in your sandbox, then send the draft to administrators, using the device in the sandbox. Admins may decline the draft if they believe the page is not notable enough. Remember to always add citations for verification! Happy editing, and if you have anything to ask, do so on my talk page. :) East Anglian Regional (talk) 11:16, 18 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Basically, you can't. Wikipedia is not a blog or advertising site. What you trying to violates several Wikipedia policies. Read
 * WP:ORGNAME
 * WP:ROLE
 * WP:PROMOTION, and
 * WP:COI
 * (ADDED) I've been reading the Teahouse page bottom-to-top, so I didn't see till after writing this that the issues I mentioned have already been addressed in answers to your question just above this one.
 * --Thnidu (talk) 19:43, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * --Thnidu (talk) 19:43, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Yale-NUS: Old tags and unbalance criticism
Hi, I do not see any obvious adverts. Most of the alleged COI happened about 3-4 years ago. There is also an editor that claims to be 'looking into it' - who knows when that will be - and also reverted recent edits without considering each point.

There are some strong words, like 'condemn' that's not in the sources for HRW criticism. There is a large criticism section and 'further reading' - can you advise if these are due, and help remove those unjustified? Thanks Baxter.melb (talk)


 * Is this about Yale-NUS College?
 * The proper place for discussion of issues about the article, including its tags, is the article talk page. Ask the other editor what language she thinks is non-neutral.  There has been very little use of the talk page recently.  Use it.  Robert McClenon (talk) 12:15, 18 June 2016 (UTC)


 * The previous excuse was "I am trying to fix this. Will take a while though". One whole month later, it's still "I was working on it. Please do not remove tags until all problems are fixed". Not a single edit was done. As you say, the talk page is rarely used as people are no longer interested. If it's the same reply, where to formally complain and which WP principle should I use?. Thanks.Baxter.melb (talk) 06:05, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Unless you have a conflict of interest yourself,, you should fix any problems that you see with the article yourself. You have the interest and the motivation, so just do it,  in compliance with our policies and guidelines. We have over five million articles. Who else is better qualified to improve this article other than you? Hint: the most likely answer is no one. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  06:21, 19 June 2016 (UTC)


 * That was quick!thanks. I have no COI at all - as staff, student, nor previous edits. This is a long article and sources to check and I do not have a lot of time - more important, there is little point improving or correcting things to be reverted with a single click by a full-time editor, which is the easiest thing to do for a deletionist (I read). My main aim is to remove the tags for now if the casual reader or editor sees no overt claimed adverts, because articles are forever being improved anyway. So just scanning through, there is no obvious ads or promos to me (not sure if there are subliminal ones:) ). Do you see any difference with other college articles?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baxter.melb (talk • contribs) 07:36, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, . There is no such thing as a full-time editor. If you think that a tag is no longer appropriate (after checking any comments in the edit summary or the article's talk page when the tag was applied), then you can simply remove it - make sure you give a meaningful edit summary, so that this doesn't look like vandalism. The worst that can happen is that somebody disagrees and reinstates the tag: then you can discuss the matter on the talk page. Differences from other college articles are not of themselves of any consequence, though they might sugges ways in which one or other article could be improved. --ColinFine (talk) 20:19, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Billingham Bags
I reviewed Draft:Billingham Bags and declined it for both notability issues, with the only reference being its own web site, and tone issues. I then received the following note on my talk page from User:Nathenoo:

Hi Robert. I've added more reference links to other sites (Pedlars and DPReview). I hope this improves things. May I also get some direction on what the tone/notability issues are so I may correct? Thanks. Nathan

I would appreciate the comments of other experienced editors. One of the additional references is an interview with the founder, which isn’t independent. Do other editors think that the tone is neutral or promotional? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:13, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * , language like "a keen amateur photographer himself, discovered that his fishing bags were being used by New York photographers and within a year production had switched almost entirely to specialist camera bags. Today they’re sold all over the world" is promotional, advertising-style language suited to its company brochure or web page, but utterly inappropriate for a neutral encyclopedia article. You are obligated to provide references to independent, reliable sources that devote significant coverage to this company. Otherwise,  the company is not eligible for a Wikipedia article. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  04:03, 19 June 2016 (UTC)


 * One way of looking at this,, is to realise that Wikipedia has essentially no interest in what a subject (whether a company or anything else) says about itself. It is not interested in what appears on the company's website, what the company has said in a press release, or what the founder has said in an interview. It is especially not interested in the company's view of what is important about it. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with the company have chosed to say about it, and published in reliable places: a high quality article needs to be written nearly 100% based on such sources. --ColinFine (talk) 20:32, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Positioning of media
Is there a way to position a media thing so that it is on the left side of the page. For example, I want the media player on the right to be found on the left side instead of on the right area below. The position of the thing is really weird and I can't fix it.  <span style="color:;"> <span style="color:;"> <span style="color:;"> <span style="color:;">   20:21, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Nikolaiho. Code of form  calls a template, in this case Template:listen. The template page often has documentation, here to add the parameter  . PrimeHunter (talk) 21:36, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . PrimeHunter has given you the correct techical answer. My response is to ask you to think about why you want to position this to the left instead of the right.  Our Manual of style values consistency while allowing for variation. The vast majority of our articles that include a media player position the device on the right.  Is there an objective reason to position it to the left in this case,  other than your personal opinion that it is "weird "? <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  02:50, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * It's just that in the article Regal (instrument) under Regal (instrument), the only content under that heading is the media playing thing but because it is on the right, it appears that the heading is empty and the media, out of place. I thought that if it were on the left, it would be under the heading and appear more normal. What do you think?  <span style="color:;"> <span style="color:;"> <span style="color:;"> <span style="color:;">   17:11, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * You could try putting under the media files, and see how you like the result. Maproom (talk) 21:33, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Re-numbering list
When I insert or delete an item in a list (such as List of the oldest living state leaders), is there an easier way to automatically renumber the entries? Thanks. EternalNomad (talk) 16:38, 18 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi EternalNomad, to create an automatically numbered list simply replace the numbers with the # character, like this:
 * # First thing
 * # Secondly
 * # Third place
 * is automatically parsed into


 * 1) First thing
 * 2) Secondly
 * 3) Third place
 * by the wiki software.
 * Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:53, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * This doesn't work in tables like List of the oldest living state leaders. Help:Sorting mentions a method that only works if all rows are the same height. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:14, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Uploading image to Lemar (supermarket)
Hello again, I am trying to upload an image to Lemar (supermarket) and the following is all I retrieved:

‎(2,448 × 3,264 pixels, file size: 2.14 MB, MIME type: image/jpeg);

Thanks for your time, East Anglian Regional (talk) 10:11, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi East Anglian Regional. You inserted that text directly in the article.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lemar_(supermarket)&diff=725861844&oldid=725447554] It's data about an image but where is the image? Please post a link if possible. If it's only on your own computer then what is on the image, where did you get it from and do you know its license? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:22, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Where is the button "contest speedy deletion"?
The new page we created "Multilingualism in Israel" is candidate for speedy deletion and I do not understand why. I would like to contest this. It is now in the sandbox, and I actually went in to publish it but saw this message about speedy deletion. Thanks! MLclass (talk) 03:54, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse! When faced with a speedy deletion, you may contest the speedy deletion by pressing the blue button marked on the template that says "Contest this speedy deletion" which will bring you to text stating "This page should not be speedy deleted as (speedy deletion criteria), because... (your reason here) --~" -where you can state your reason in the 'your reason here'. I would also consider checking out WP:NOTE to see if the article meets nobility guidelines.  A dog 104  Talk to me 04:22, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I see no indication that your draft on "Multilingualism in Israel" was ever tagged for speedy deletion. Did you also edit using an IP address (or another user account) and create a draft in its sandbox?  Robert McClenon (talk) 04:28, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi MLclass. I am unable to find any article titled "Multilingualism in Israel", but I did find User:MLclass/sandbox and User:MLclass which seem to be about the that particular topic. Those two particular pages are are not articles; they are user pages. More specifically, "User:MLclass" is your user page while "User:MLclass/sandbox" is a user subpage. Wikipedia allows editors to customize their user pages a bit as long as they comply with WP:UPYES. My guess is that somebody tagged "User:MLclass" for speedy deletion per WP:U5 because they felt it was a fake article, so it was deleted back on April 4 by administrator with this edit. I see that you have re-created the page which is OK, but there's a good chance that the page will tagged for speedy deletion again for the same reason. So, my suggestion to you is to create another user subpage using Help:Userspace draft and then move all of the content from "User:MLclass" to the new page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:41, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . The article is User:MLclass/sandbox. It appears to be written as a student research paper, perhaps by multiple students. At this point it needs a bit of work to be turned into an encyclopedia article. Is this a student assignment? If so, get it graded while still in the sandbox. A student paper is expected to do some analysis and draw conclusions. An encyclopedia article just reports, so remove the conclusion section any other interpretation of your own. Everything needs a source. Many of the sections don't have sources. And in those that do, make sure you are rewriting the material in your own words. Don't paraphrase too closely. You use the parenthesis style of referencing (often copied from your sources). Cite the source you are using, not the source they are citing since you probably have not read that. For any source we need to be able to find the full reference at the bottom of the page. I can't find many of them. Get them in alphabetical order, with translations for the title, author, source of the ones in Hebrew. Put each one on a new line with an * in front so they form a bulleted list. StarryGrandma (talk) 04:48, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the remarks. I deleted the conclusions as advised and will start working on the citations. All citations are primary citations, and yes, we have read all of them.  Still, I can't find the "contest this deletion" button nor can I find the "userspace draft" where I am supposed to be working. I will appreciate help locating them. Thanks.

MLclass (talk) 13:38, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi again . The template you seem to be referring to on your user talk page at User talk:MLclass was added over two months ago. That speedy deletion template no longer exists because the page in question has already been deleted. For reference, the template can be seen at Template:Db-u5. If you look, you'll see a big blue button in the middle that says "Contest this speedy deletion". That's the button referred to in the notification posted on your user talk page. As for the userspace draft, you can create that yourself by going to Help:Userspace draft and following the instructions on the page. Basically, you just type in the name you want to call your draft into the "Hello! Please type the name of the article here to start a userspace draft" and then click on button to the left. The software will create a userspace draft for you and then all you need to do is copy and past the content from your user page to the new draft. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:22, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Peoples Privacy
Hello.

I am a former pupil of Queen Anne Grammar School in York and a new member of Wikipedia. I am editing information on the Queen Anne Grammar School page from my own inside knowledge of the school.

Would I be able to write a list of the names of the last members of staff along with the subject they taught or would this be infringement of their privacy?

I've seen other websites writing about this school, mentioning staff members names - though these are mostly newspapers that probably got their permission first!

I don't want to do anything I'm not supposed to.

Thank you.

BlueRouge (talk) 16:39, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

"lists or detailed information about current or former pupils, parents of current or former pupils, administrative staff, school secretaries, teachers etc. is usually inappropriate" The guidance does allow "current and former teachers if they are notable in their own right (for example, they are published authors or they have won a teaching award)" - Arjayay (talk) 18:26, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, . Thank you for wanting to help, and for coming here and asking. The first answer is that you should put absolutely nothing in the article which is not backed up by a reliable published source: I'm afraid your own knowledge is not acceptable as a source. As far as possible these should be sources with no connection to the school, but non-independent sources (such as the school's own website) may be used for uncontroversial factual data.
 * In my view, a list of staff and their subjects, while it can probably be validly sourced from the school's website (I'm guessing), is simply not encyclopaedic, and should not be listed. The head teacher certainly should be named, and possibly previous head teachers (though I don't think a full historical list would be justified); but I don't believe other teachers belong in the article, unless they are notable in their own right, or they figure significantly in independently published material about the school.
 * Privacy is an issue, but it is just part of a more general policy on biographies of living people: if information about an individual is to be found in a reliable published source, it may be used (if appropriate) in a Wikipedia article. --ColinFine (talk) 17:08, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see WikiProject Schools/Article guidelines - specifically, the guidance on what should/should not be included is at WP:WPSCH/AG, which, in What not to include includes:-

Where is the appropriate place for alternative place names?
Hi there. I'm new to Wikipedia, and I was trying my best to see if there is any precedent for indigenous place names on Wikipedia, and I noticed that there was on the Missouri River page. Following that example, I am starting to add indigenous place names to other pages - Mississippi River, Seattle, and others. Should I include this information in the page heading (as it is with the Missouri River page) or is there a more appropriate place for it? Thanks! Jordanengel1 (talk) 05:03, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . This is an excellent question, and I am unaware of a specific policy since there is a large range of possibilities. This is really a matter of editorial judgment, and the most important primciple is that the indigenous name needs to be referenced to a reliable source. Is the indigenous name still commonly used or is it a footnote in the academic literature? Is there one known indigenous name, or several? Is the current name controversial? These are the sort of factors that will influence the decision of how much prominence to give to an alternate name. Consider Denali, North America's highest mountain. Its official renaming last year was highly controversial. The various names for Denali are discussed in the infobox, the lead of the article,  a dedicated section of the article, and in a separate article devoted to the controversy, Denali–Mount McKinley naming dispute. The bottom line is that well-referenced alternative names for any topic are worthy of due weight in any encyclopedia article. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  05:48, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * There is a guideline at Naming conventions (geographic names). Wikipedia's own terminology is also good to know in discussions. In the article Missouri River, the largest bold "Missouri River" at top left of the page is called the page name or title. We rarely say "page heading" but if we do then it often refers to this and not to the box at the top right. This box is called an infobox. Its heading is called something with infobox like infobox heading, infobox title or infobox name. The part of the article before the table of contents is called the lead. Alternative names may be mentioned in the infobox heading and the lead but not in the page name. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:18, 16 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks and  ! , I'd love to talk more about why you felt the revisions were unneeded. On the Anchorage, Alaska page, for example, I added the indigenous Dena'ina name for the city in the infobox. I feel like that adheres to Wikipedia's naming convention for "relevant foreign language names (one used by at least 10% of sources in the English language or is used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place.)" Jordanengel1 (talk) 02:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * A ping must be added in the same edit as a signature so your attempted pings in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions&diff=725661061&oldid=725660766] didn't work. You can make a new ping or post to User talk:Onel5969. The ping rules are complicated. The idea behind the rules is to avoid pinging users when old posts are archived, transcluded, copied, refactored and so on. The safest metod is to add a single new signed paragraph and change nothing else when you make a ping. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:24, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Haha. Ok, thanks for bearing with me while I figure out Wikipedia.  - I'd love to include you in the discussion. All the best. Jordanengel1 (talk) 16:26, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . is spot on in pointing to the relevant guideline, which doesn't include "or is used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place"). What it does say is "especially those used significantly often (say, 10% of the time or more) in the available English literature on a place, past or present, should be mentioned in the article, as encyclopedic information." But when you look at that, it simply says mentioned in the article, not included in the infobox, or in the lead paragraph. For example, Tucson is not called anything other than Tucson by even O'odham and Yavapai speakers. Regarding including it in the infobox, the settlement infobox template says: "Name in the local language, if different from name, and if not English." The local language in all these cases is English. In the case of the lead paragraph, if there is a significant local culture which has a specific name for the feature, and still uses it, than it should be included there (the Grand Canyon is a good example of that). While I didn't change your edit on the Mississippi River, those names you inserted into the infobox should probably be removed and inserted into the history section.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 13:16, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * that documentation applies to the  parameter. You'll note that there is also , which displays in smaller text in the infobox, and is for "places with a former or more common name like Bombay or Saigon". For natural features and settlements that predate their English names, including a local indigenous name under   is appropriate. That said, for large features that have names in a number of languages, such as rivers, including all these in the infobox would be cumbersome. Ibadibam (talk) 19:08, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

I'm trying to edit a logo.
Hello, I've noticed that The Ramones logo is incorrect. As an avid fan I want to change this mistake. How can I change the logo without infringing on copyright laws? The logo is wrong! Watermelonfree (talk) 17:23, 20 June 2016 (UTC) Can you please cite a reference to explain why the existing logo is "wrong" and give an example of the "correct" logo, and a reference to show why tha is the correct one - thanks - Arjayay (talk) 18:18, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Watermelonfree


 * It's incorrect because the ending members were Johnny, Joey, Deedee, and Tommy. The logo on the wiki page does not include Tommy who joined the band in the original four years and rejoined the band until they disbanded in 1996. He was also the last band member alive until 2014. Marky was disbanded after the release of "Subterranean Jungle" due to alcoholism. Richie left in 1987 because he was made he wasn't getting his fair share of t-shirt sales. It's says in the first paragraph of the page that Tommy was the original member and that is how the band is represented today. It's just more accurate. Watermelonfree (talk) 19:21, 20 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . The article Ramones says "Over the years the names in the border would change as the band's line-up fluctuated". Given that, I can't see how any particular version is more right or wrong than any other; perhaps the caption should say when that version of the logo was current (the further information available by clicking on the image does so). Given that, I don't think you should change it without getting consensus: please start a discussion on Talk:Ramones, and see if anybody agrees (or disagrees).
 * If consensus is that it should be changed, then normally the way to include a logo is to upload it from somewhere. Editing an image is not something that can be done inside Wikipedia: you would need to edit outside Wikipedia, and then upload it. Most logos are copyright, but can be used in Wikipedia as long as that use satisfies all the criteria in the Non free content criteria. --ColinFine (talk) 21:01, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

non free image ready to upload
I believe I have met the criteria established in the "Non-free use rationale biog" that was emailed to me. How do I upload the photograph to the article side bar? Also, I emailed the legal copyright assignment agreement per Wikipedia request. I do not know if it has been reviewed or "attached" to the article in question. Thank you for all the help! Rae 3328 (talk) 18:52, 20 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Adding images is done in two stages: first the image is uploaded (most conveniently using the Upload wizard); then it can be used in an article. If the file is freely licensed, it should be uploaded to Commons; if it is non-free, then it may only be uploaded to Wikipedia itself. I'm confused as to which you are talking about, because the assignment that you said you mailed is only relevant to a free image (it is the way by which the copyright holder tells the Wikimedia Foundation that it is freely licensed), so the non free content criteria don't apply. If it is freely licensed, then upload it to Commons, giving as the rationale that the email has been sent by the copyright holder.
 * Once the image has been uploaded to either Commons or Wikipedia, it can then be used in an article: the copyright release is not relevant to this part of the process. The "sidebar" is called an infobox (see Help:Infobox), and you specify the image by giving its name as the argument for an appropriate parameter, probably called "image". (Unfortunately, infoboxes are inconsistent as to whether they want the bare name of the file, or a Wikilink to it: you need to look at the documentation for the particular infobox to know which. For example, if the article is about an artist, you would want infobox artist, and that link takes you to Template:infobox artist, which tells you that for that particular infobox, "image" wants "just the pagename, without the File:/Image: prefix or brackets ") --ColinFine (talk) 21:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Userbox
How can a user create his own new userbox? Rainbow Archer (talk) 12:11, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Greetings. Some advice and guidelines can be found at Userboxes. When I made the one on my user page, I just copied the code for an existing one (I don't remember which), replacing the text and image. Deor (talk) 12:25, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The userbox page has a generic template you can copy. Also, I keep a blank copy in my main sandbox, here. Feel free to copy-paste it and use; you can find a picture, change the text to whatever you want, and change the colors. White Arabian Filly  Neigh 22:00, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Zygmunt Aleksander Wnęk
I reviewed Draft: Zygmunt Aleksander Wnęk and declined it initially. I stated that the subject was ipso facto notable under military notability guidelines by having received Poland’s highest military award, but that the article would need a reference to that effect. Since then, the reference has been added, and the article has been accepted into article space, Zygmunt Aleksander Wnęk. However, an unregistered editor, probably its author, logged out, wrote to my talk page:

Thank you kindly for your assistance with regards to Wiki entry Zygmunt Aleksander Wnęk. However there are still a number of points with which you could help me. Furthermore I still need to finalise the Infobox for Military Person - perhaps you could advise me?

I am not an expert in infoboxes, and maybe someone else can help. Also what are the additional points? I do see that there are several external URLs in the article linking to Wikipedia that should be changed to internal wikilinks. If the author needs help with them, maybe someone here can help. I would tag the article for cleanup due to the URLs, except that maybe someone will help with them. User: Bronka2016 – Please log in before editing. What are your questions? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:12, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know about the military infoboxes, but I think I turned all the external links into wikilinks. White Arabian Filly  Neigh
 * Thank you. I corrected typos in the wikilinks.  The references can still use improvement.  What are the questions, about the infobox or about anything else?  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:27, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The relevant infobox template, plus its documentation, can be found at Template:Infobox military person. I recommend copying the template and pasting it into a blank sandbox page. Then, begin filling in the relevant fields, saving and checking as you go. Non-applicable fields should be left blank and will not display. It is useful to study how the infoboxes are coded in similar articles. Once you have the infobox the way you want it,  copy and paste it to the top of the article. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  02:33, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Adjusting size of image files added to Wikipedia
I frequently have trouble with the size of images when I add them to Wikipedia pages. I usually look for the File which is called a thumbnail file but often it will show up as gargantuan. How can I control the size of the images I am posting? For instance, I recently added a file from Wikipedia showing an illustration of iron works to one about Morris Burke Belknap, an early iron foundry entrepreneur. I often have the same problem with image files from Wikimedia Commons, even images which I have submitted myself. Is there a cure-all for this problem?Mitzi.humphrey (talk) 18:58, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * When you upload an image, you should generally upload it with its full size and resolution. When you add an image to an article, you should add it as a thumbnail, or at some other specified size suitable for the page. Maproom (talk) 19:15, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Have you read the guidance at Picture tutorial, ? Cordless Larry (talk) 19:25, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, User:Maproom, I did not know that helpful information.
 * Thank you, User:Cordless Larry for the good advice. That is a very long picture tutorial, but I've printed it all for ease of reference. Mitzi.humphrey (talk) 04:39, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

how to cite newspaper cuttings
I am writing an article about an artist who has sent me newspaper cuttings about his important exhibitions. I could upload scans of these cuttings or put them on a separate website. What is best? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Landschaftsmaler/sandbox --Landschaftsmaler (talk) 10:24, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * To put copies of the newspaper cuttings either onto Wikipedia or onto another website would almost certainly be a copyright violation, and in any case would not satisfy Wikipedia's requirement for verifiabilty. What you need to do is to provide the information to allow other editors to look up the information, such as the name of the newspaper, the date, and the title of the article. The template cite news is a good way of formatting the information. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:32, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks David, I´ll do that. One question though: Would it be alright to link to newspaper cuttings of photographs where permission was granted by the people in those photographs? Details required for a proper citation would be added. --Landschaftsmaler (talk) 05:29, 16 June 2016 (UTC)


 * In general the copyright in a photograph does not belong to the subject of the photograph. Copyright usually belongs to the photographer, but for a newspaper photograph I would expect the copyright to belong to the newspaper. David Biddulph (talk) 07:27, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks David, I have now edited the article extensively introducing references to newspaper articles rather than links to photocopies of the article. Naturally this will make life a bit more difficult for anyone wanting to verify the story as they would have to contact the paper to ask for a copy. Fortunately some of the references have been published on the website of the corresponding newspaper. However older ones naturally would not be on the web.--Landschaftsmaler (talk) 13:43, 18 June 2016 (UTC)


 * @Landschaftsmaler That's why they invented libraries and archives. WP:Verifiability just has to be possible, it does not have to be easy. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:56, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * , this doesn't help you with photos, but you can add quotes to citations using the  parameter, which can help readers understand how the source supports the material being referenced. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:35, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you everybody for your advice. I have reworked the article accordingly. Perhaps you could take a look and tell me if I am on the right track.--Landschaftsmaler (talk) 05:40, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I've taken a quick look, . If I was reviewing your draft, I would decline it on the basis that it is poorly referenced. Please have a look at Verifiability, paying particular attention to the following paragraph: "All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists and captions, must be verifiable. All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed. Please remove contentious material about living people that is unsourced or poorly sourced immediately".
 * The wording of the draft also remains too promotional, and wording such as "it is also worth recalling the words of the late Peter Greenham RA" is more suited to an essay than an encyclopedia article. Writing better articles offers some advice on appropriate tone. Cordless Larry (talk) 06:36, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

upload
How can I upload my user page on internet to see by other people by searching related article to my page .100 lion (talk) 05:27, 21 June 2016 (UTC) I think you are asking why your userpage is not coming up when looking for it using a search engine? As explained at Controlling search engine indexing "User:, User talk:, Draft: and Draft talk: namespaces are automatically noindexed via a software setting" - i.e. such pages are not intended to appear in such a search. Wikipedia is not a social media site, or place to promote yourself, or your ideas. - Arjayay (talk) 08:52, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. Your user page is already online, at User:100 lion. Cordless Larry (talk) 06:21, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi

Using image with custom size
I want to use an image file, File:PD-icon.svg, on my talk page, but in a smaller size than the smallest version available. I tried to use HTML  but the code just appeared literally. How can I do this? Please me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 19:20, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I think you should be able to adjust the size of the image in the same way you would adjust a regular thumbnail (just without the  part); Picture tutorial explains this in greater detail. Assuming that you wanted the file to display at a width of 64px (according to the commented-out code on your talk page), you could just put   on your page (note that the   is unnecessary). CabbagePotato (talk) 09:03, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that did the trick! --Thnidu (talk) 09:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)