Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 611

first article - wikipedia reverted some points of my work
So hello to everyone! I would like to ask you some questions... Firstly, i had posted some external links on the article i Uploaded. These external links, are work of mine and papers that i have published to many national and scientific magazines! Unfortunately, site doesn't know this ,so how can i prove it? Or how can i upload without the fear of being deleted... Also, i am trying to use find link tool for any suggestions and anything is happening ...what can i do? Thanks a lot!! Ioannisgeo (talk) 13:52, 3 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Unfortunately, you have done what a lot of people do, and joined Wikipedia and immediately started trying to do one of the most difficult tasks on Wikipedia, which is to create a new article. Have you read your first article? That has a lot of useful information.
 * Looking quickly at your draft, I notice that the second paragraph uses the word "innovative". No Wikipedia article should ever use evaluative language like this about its subject, unless possible it is directly quoting a reliable published source independent of the subject. Wikipedia is not interested, at all in what you think about a subject (or what I think about it), and it is also not interested in what the subject of an article, or people associated with that subject, think about it. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with a subject have published about that subject.
 * And this leads to the larger point. Wikipedia may not be used for promotion, period. It makes no difference whether the subject is commercial or not: an article must neutrally summarise what independent published sources have said about a subject. Since you appear to be the inventor of this technique, you have a conflict of interest which will probably make it difficult for you to write neutrally about it, so you are discouraged from writing about it at all.
 * I have just moved the article into Draft space for you (it is now at Draft:IPG DET Technique), where it can be worked on with less risk of being summarily deleted. I suggest that, after studying Your first article (linked above) you decide whether the subject is notable, and if so, declare your conflict of interest and work on writing it according to what the sources unconnected with you say about it. --ColinFine (talk) 14:46, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

how do i add tags?
I also dont really know what to put on my page Unoriginalkid (talk) 15:28, 3 May 2017 (UTC)


 * What kind of tags are you looking to add?  Gtstricky Talk or C 17:08, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Where do I note that I wrote the article on behalf of someone as non-paid hired help?
I previously wrote a Wikipedia article that was deleted due to it falling under the guidelines of being written by hired help. I was told that I am required to note my affiliation to the subject matter in the article, but I have not found any reference that shows how to do this. I have rewritten the article for review and wanted to make sure that I do not run into this issue again. I was asked to write the article as a favor for a friend. The article can be found here: Draft:Martin H. Hiller

Thanks, Jameswhunt (talk) 15:20, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello . You probably have already been told that undisclosed paid editing is forbidden. Nonetheless, even if you are not compensated for your editing, you have a conflict of interest which you are encouraged to disclose, see WP:DISCLOSE for multiple ways to do so.
 * No article submission should be deleted just because the main author has a conflict of interest. However, any article needs to be written in a neutral point of view which means overly promotional content will be deleted. I have no access to the deleted content, but I can guess what happened from the logs: a reviewer reviewed your article, and (I guess) proposed it for deletion with a rationale that was IMO incorrect ("smells like paid editing") but was understood by the deleting administrator  as implying a correct rationale ("is promotional").
 * I "pinged" both involved editors to bring their attention here, but for the record, if you have issues with any editor, it is usually best to discuss it with them before coming to another forum. Tigraan Click here to contact me 15:33, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the response. Unfortunately I am still learning Wiki so my work is mostly trial and error. The concern attached to my deleted article states: "History shows all the signs of either a paid advertisement or hired help, both of which are needed to be openly noted by our policies or else it's a violation of the basic expectations of WP:What Wikipedia is not."

I was unaware that I needed to disclose my relationship with the subject matter, but I have no problem doing so. I am friends with the subject matter's Executive Assistant. She reached out to me because of my computer and writing background. I am more than happy to disclose what ever is required! :) Jameswhunt (talk) 15:51, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * James, the article, Martin H. Hiller was deleted using the WP:PROD process. That process is very easy to remove the page and very easy to get it back. If you want the content of the original article you wrote, let me know and I will restore it.    ~ GB fan 15:58, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi that would be great. Thank you very much! Jameswhunt (talk) 17:15, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * the article has been restored. There is a possibility that it might be nominated for deletion, so you should work on it to clear up any problems.  ~ GB fan 17:24, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Audio on dyk
Is it possible on a dyk nomination, instead of (pictured) within the hook, could you have (listen here) with a link to an audio? Thanks. Mramoeba (talk) 23:05, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey Mramoeba. It is. See Template:Did you know as of October 3, 2008. That's the only one I found upon searching the talk page for mentions of the word "audio", but there may have been others. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:08, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh well found Fuhghettaboutit, thanks! Mramoeba (talk) 00:18, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * @Mramoeba: Glad to help.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:25, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

New to Wikipedia, how can I create a table of contents?
How can I create a table of contents for my article? 15:17, 3 May 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by V lainez (talk • contribs)
 * Once there are enough (maybe 3?) section headers, the table of contents will appear automatically. Maproom (talk) 15:24, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * At least 4 sections, see WP:TOC. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:41, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

linking of user pages among different wikipedias
respected Sir, i want to try my User page across various wikipedias such as the english wikipedia, simple english wikipedia wikibooks ,wikmedia etc. i had tried linking and redirecting but none of them seems to work kindly help. Nitianabhigyan (talk) 20:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Nitianabhigyan, welcome to the Teahouse. Code like  in User:Nitianabhigyan will link to simple:User:Nitianabhigyan under "Languages" in the left pane. Code like   with a colon on front will make the link where the code is placed. You can create a global user page which will be displayed at all wikis where you don't have a local page. See Global user pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:49, 3 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you sir for your suggestions but can you suggest me a way to create a link within the man page itself (whether a hyperlink internal or external or redirect) of simple wikipedia and other to link the user pages to my main wikipedia user page on en.wikipedia.org Nitianabhigyan (talk) 18:52, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Proposed changes
Can someone please add these deals back in the "Production deals" section on Warner Bros.?


 * Active producer/distributor deals
 * *Amblin Entertainment (1984–)
 * *Atlas Entertainment (1995–)
 * *Berlanti Productions (2010–)
 * *Carousel Productions (2013–)
 * *Cruel and Unusual Films (2007–)
 * *Heyday Films (1999–)
 * *Kennedy Miller Mitchell (1982–)
 * *Life's Too Short (2000–)
 * *Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (2012–)


 * Former producer deals
 * *Cartoon Network Studios (2002-2015)
 * *J.W. Productions (2001–2016)
 * *Mirage Studios (2007)
 * *The Zanuck Company (1989–2012)
 * *Joint Effort Productions with Todd Phillips and Bradley Cooper (2014–2016)
 * **Green Hat Films (2005–2014)
 * **22nd & Indiana Pictures (2012–2014)


 * Former distributor deals
 * *Cartoon Network Studios (2002–2015)
 * *CBS Theatrical Films (1981–1985)

Media Fan 244 (talk) 23:31, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Please post this request on the talk page of the article along with the template Edit semiprotected. This will add your request to the list of edit requests.  RudolfRed (talk) 18:35, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I already posted the request there, but they kept removing it. That's why I posted it here and on my own talk page instead. How about you do it? Media Fan 244 (talk) 18:42, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi At Talk:Warner Bros. yI have re-invoked your request since the rejection basis was invalid as you were not then (and are still not now) autoconfirmed (though you will be soon). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:50, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * According to the talk page history, many previous similar requests were removed because of apparent sockpuppetry; perhaps see Sockpuppet investigations/Nate Speed? --David Biddulph (talk) 19:04, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Translation of pages
Would it be a violation of copyright if i translate a page already existing on another wiki but in any other language to english and create the page..??? Nitianabhigyan (talk) 19:31, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * .  No, it's not a copyright infringement, but you must credit the original article.  See Translation for guidance.  RudolfRed (talk) 19:34, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Are citation lists ok?
Is it frowned upon to have a long-ish list of citations after a sentence? Say 10 citations after a sentence.

I write a sentence like "many people have studied [subject A]. [citations]" or something similar. It seems that in this case, I have three choices:

(1) add ten or so citations to studies of subject A; (2) choose one or two such studies to cite; or (3) cite a survey.

Option 1 is what I would do in academic writing and seems best to me, but I haven't seen it on Wikipedia. Option 2 works if some studies stand out in some way, but often they don't. Option 3 doesn't seem so bad, but often there is no ideal survey, but instead surveys that either cover something more general than subject A; a subfield of subject A; or some slight variant of subject A.

NoahSD (talk) 22:22, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the the Teahouse. Ten citations would usually be considered Citation overkill. Per that essay, it would be better to add a couple of well-chosen ones (your Option 2). Funcrunch (talk) 22:44, 3 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Funcrunch (talk) Thanks! NoahSD (talk) 22:49, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * another alternative, depending on the details of the sources, might be something like:
 * "'many people have studied [subject A]. [2-3 citations]. Some have concentrated on [aspect B],[1-2 citations] while others have stressed aspect C.[1-2 citations] Jones discovered (or first mentioned) the important point that .[cite Jones] Smith responded to Jones's work by asserting [cite smith]'"
 * In short when you have more useful citations than seem reasonable at the end of a single sentence, provide additional detail that specific citations support. You can also use bundled notes to make multiple citations less oppressive. Using list defined references reduces the impact on the wiki-text, and so makes multiple citations less of an obstacle to editing the text, although the trade off is that editing the citations themselves needs an extr edit or an edit to the whole article. Which techniques work best depend on the nature of the article, but are partly a matter of taste and style. DES (talk) 23:10, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

How to achieve an objective description of a person
Dear Editor,

How do you best add information which is accurate and referenced, when others remove it constantly? I tried to add accurate information, which I referenced very carefully to a page, which in my mind has been vandalized multiple times by individuals who use incomplete information to create a sensation.

What are the venues to add accurate material to the page of a living person when another user keeps calling this effort "branding" and removes it w/o other explanation.

Thank you so much.... Hypaattia (talk) 22:35, 3 May 2017 (UTC)


 * . What you are doing is edit warring. Wikipedia works on consensus. Insisting that you are right and the other person is wrong is not conducive to reaching consensus. Nor is accusing another editor of vandalism because they disagree with you about how an article should look. You need to read about dispute resolution, and follow its guidance. But I recommend starting with a little humility. (Note, I am not saying that you are wrong, or that you are right: I haven't looked in detail at the edit war going on at Linda Katehi. I am addressing how you are pursuing your goal, not the content that you favour.) --ColinFine (talk) 23:20, 3 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse, Hypaattia. I see you've moved to discussing it at Talk:Linda Katehi. Good—that's the right way to go, instead of edit warring. ColinFine is correct about consensus. Without consensus, Wikipedia would be nothing. Rivertorch   FIRE WATER   23:26, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, . I have weighed in at Talk:Linda Katehi, but I want to say briefly that I quite agree with what ColinFine wrote above. I hope that a more productive discussion can start at Talk:Linda Katehi. DES (talk) 23:51, 3 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for the advice. I will try to engage in a discussion. The question is how to best do so. If I try to add text appropriately referenced, and the text is removed by another user for whatever reason, should I try to engage the other user in a discussion while my text is removed? What happens if there is no middle ground? I am sorry for the many questions but I would like to do this appropriately. Thank you so much.Hypaattia (talk) 00:02, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * In such a case, give your reasons on the talk page, possibly including links to diffs of your edits or those of other editors, or links to sources, or cites to sources. Do not simply re-revert. This is the bold, revert, discuss cycle. Remember to assume good faith. Do not imply that other editors are trying to make the page worse, or favor a particular point of view. Instead explain why you think edits you disagree with have that effect, despite the good intentions of other editors. If there are starkly opposed views that cannot be compromised, eventually a rough consensus of editors will chose one, but in the vast majority of cases there is some middle ground. DES (talk) 00:15, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

How to create an article for a person when another article with same name exists
Hello, I wish to know how to create article for a person named 'Surendra Pratap Singh', who is an Indian author when a Wikipedia page with the same name exists for an Indian journalist. Larissaddn (talk) 11:52, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome. The most common way of doing what you suggest is to add what is called a disambiguation to the title of the article, in this case, that could be "Surendra Pratap Singh (journalist)". 331dot (talk) 11:55, 4 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much @331dot Larissaddn (talk) 11:59, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Question
How Do You Put Contents Boxes? Boeing329 (talk) 15:55, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you mean a table of contents it is added automatically for any article or page that has four or more section headings. See the linked page for more detail. DES (talk) 16:13, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

pdf link
How can I add an external link for a PDF?Mollyzbell (talk) 16:25, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Mollyzbell. External links are generally added with this markup: Name to display, which results in Name to display. However, links in citations might include the same type of link, but might instead be provided through a citation template, using a parameter like |url=http://... . A few other rules of thumb: external links, placed as "external links", rather than in citations, must meet the external links policy. You must not link to a site that hosts copyright violations anywhere (including in citations—see WP:ELNEVER, and the footnote to that section). When not appearing in a citation, external links are never placed in the body of any article, but typically only in a dedicated external links section. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:55, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, . I would add to the above that if you are doing a citation using a citation template, most citation templates include a "format=" parameter, which can take a value of "PDF", to indicate to the reader that the link is to a PDF file. DES (talk) 17:32, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

problems with uploading pics
can you pls tell me how can I upload pics... Thanks Muthumukkom (talk) 12:10, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * This link, File Upload Wizard, is where you start to upload images. ~ GB fan 12:28, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The link above will load images into the English Wikipedia. Please be aware that while fair use images need to be uploaded to the English Wikipedia, in almost all cases, a free image should be uploaded to common so that it can be used anywhere. Commons Upload.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  18:33, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

What happens after you've created an article?
Sorry, it's been literally a couple of years since I last created an article, and I don't remember the specific steps after an article has been submitted. I have already added categories and defaultsort to the article. Is there anything else that I need to add to it? Lupine453 (talk) 18:27, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse! Next, editors will look for problems in the article and its citations and tag or fix them as necessary.  Also, a New Page Reviewer may come through and review the page.  If they don't find any problems with the article, they will mark the page as reviewed and it will then be able to be indexed by search engines.  If they do find problems, they will try to tag and fix them.  If they don't get to it, it will automatically be able to be indexed within 30 days of its creation.  Note that this does not mean it will be indexed immediately when it's able to be.  Wikipedia does not control when search engines index its pages, just if they can.  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 19:33, 4 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you Gestrid Lupine453 (talk) 19:58, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech Question
Is there any bot or script that can replace redirects and deleted / updated pages on Index of Jainism-related articles? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · [//tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Capankajsmilyo&project=en.wikipedia.org count])  21:48, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Cannot find the article I created
Hello. I created an article regarding Diamond View Studios, but I can't seem to find it in my drafts, or anywhere else. I also have not received any feedback advising that my article was deleted, etc. Can you please assist? Thank you:)Jonohickson (talk) 20:45, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Jonohickson, welcome to the Teahouse. This question is the only edit your current account has saved. A draft was created at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Diamond View Studios in February 2013. Was that you? It was declined the same month and deleted in January 2014. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:54, 4 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi PrimeHunter. Thank you.  I am guessing that I failed to save the article if it is not showing up. I will try again.  The other article you reference was not me. Thank you for your assistance:)Jonohickson (talk) 20:56, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello . When I am concerned that a draft or content from a sandbox may disappear, I always save a copy of my work offline on my own computer. There have been times when an article or draft has disappeared for whatever reason and I have been able to create it over with additional content and sources to have it become a new article. Save your work. Best Regards,
 *  Bfpage  let's talk... 22:30, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Anything wrong?...
Hello! I'm a new comer in Wikipedia English, I'm already contibuting in French; I'm wondering why my first article in English posted on April 10th, entitled Grand Prix of Literary Associations, is not still appearing in Google search when typing the title. Is there anything wrong? I'd be grateful to everyone who can help me understand. --Morgoko (talk) 20:32, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Morgoko, welcome to the Teahouse. New articles in the English Wikipedia automatically get the noindex tag for 30 days or until they are patrolled by a user with the required permission. The article still has noindex, meaning external search engines are asked to not index it. It varies how long it takes search engines to index an article after noindex is removed. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:44, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you PrimeHunter, for getting me informed. --Morgoko (talk) 21:04, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your reply because I have always wondered about that connection between Google and WP. I actually sometimes see my articles appear in Google four hours after it was created - but since I am autopatrolled, this explains the reason for that. Best Regards,
 *  Bfpage  let's talk... 22:33, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It's a relatively new feature from October 2016: T147544. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:18, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Gender segregation in categories
Where can I find more information about guidelines in using gendered categories? Thx MassiveEartha (talk) 17:27, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Greetings and welcome to the Teahouse, . I am glad that you stopped by. I am not sure what you mean by 'gendered categories'. I often work with categories and I am not familiar with your term. Do you mean something like ?
 *  Bfpage  let's talk... 22:36, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Bfpage and thanks for responding. Yes, that's exactly what I mean. Thanks again, MassiveEartha (talk) 22:56, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * There is a guideline that addresses gendered categorization at Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality Mduvekot (talk) 23:00, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay! The first thing to do is to find out if the category in which you have interest already exists. This can be time-consuming, but maybe not. To see if the category you are already looking for already exists, you enter it into the search box on the top right hand corner of any WP page. You would type in Category:Women musicians. If it takes you to a category page with articles listed that are contained in that category, then obviously the category already exists and you won't have to create it. If it doesn't exist, then come back here and I will tell you how to create a gendered category. It is a funny thing, believe me I know because I have a talent for getting categories that I create deleted. There is a strategy in creating a category. and basically it involves very fast editing. If you are not able to set aside a block of time in which you add articles to your category, it will be quickly deleted. You have to populate the category to at least about 30 articles. In addition, you can use an editing tool that you install into your wikipedia preferences and hidden coding page attached to your username (is your head spinning yet) that quickly adds categories to articles. One thing that surprised me when I first started editing and explained the high edit counts of many editors is their use of editing tools. Even if you are a very new editor, the tool for adding categories is the simplest one to install and use. So come back to leave a message and we can get a gendered category up and running for you. Best Regards,
 *  Bfpage  let's talk... 23:47, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Upload
Imran088 (talk) 05:55, 5 May 2017 (UTC) Hello, I wanted to donate a few of my own works in Wikipedia. I also uploaded a few going through the upload file section. I have added a photo of Abbotts Babbler Juvenile in the following link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbott%27s_babbler

link of my image is: I went through the edit source section and uploaded the image. Kindly guide me whether it was an authentic way of uploading images. If not, please guide me the procedure through which I can upload my own works. Imran088 (talk) 05:55, 5 May 2017 (UTC)


 * , thank you for uploading your images. This will allow them to be used in English-language Wikipedia, and we appreciate it. It would be even better if you uploaded your images to Wikimedia Commons. Commons is a collection of images and other resources which are available for use not only on English Wikipedia, but on French, Russian, Chinese etc. Wikipedias, and other Wikimedia projects. Maproom (talk) 07:59, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

How to make a Suggestion/Request for Feature to Wikipedia
Hi dear Teahouse, I was thinking about a maybe new feature in Wikipedia and was wondering where I can drop it? It may even be available already and I don't know about. Any suggestions (pun intended) is really appreciated. Thanks Alireza1357 (talk) 09:36, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not a mentor or official answerer here at the Teahouse, but it'll probably be a lot easier to get your question answered if you describe what the new feature is that you're interested in establishing. --Thnidu (talk) 09:48, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi the Idea lab is a good place to start. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:21, 29 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi User:Thnidu and User:Dodger67,

Thanks for your comments. I was thinking about a light weight popup mechanism in Wikipedia that users can turn on or off. The popups will show after x ms of hovering over a word in Wikipedia that is linked to another page on Wikipedia. I use Wikipedia a lot and when reading a page, I don't like to open many other pages just to find out what a word means in an article. I was thinking about how Google scrapes the introduction section of a page from Wikipedia and shows it on its search result pages, Wikipedia could give us the ability to have the short definition of a subject just by hovering over it when reading something here.

I was about to submit this to the Idea Lab, but thought it may be helpful to check it first with you guys.

Hope that makes sense. Alireza1357 (talk) 12:37, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * This actually already exists! See WP:POPUPS for instructions on how to turn it on. Seraphimblade Talk to me 12:44, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks User:Seraphimblade It actually hurts to be such a know-nothing newbie, but the Teah House is a really good place to ask questions. That was exactly what I was looking for. Cheers and good luck! Alireza1357 (talk) 06:38, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello Alireza1357! It's so natural that people aren't aware of all features provided by Wikipedia, because there's just tons of them. It takes time (a lot, actually). So, don't feel for it.

In case you find Navigation popups to be showing a lot of information than you need and if you're interested in trying out Beta features, you may find Hover cards as a good replacement. In case you're stuck somewhere trying to enable it, feel free to ask me in my talk page. Happy Reading! Kaartic correct me, if i'm wrong 07:36, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Kaartic Love to you and the nice ppl here in Tea House. Alireza1357 (talk) 09:25, 5 May 2017 (UTC)


 * , welcomes you ;) Kaartic correct me, if i'm wrong 09:39, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Page issues
Hello Teahouse,

During my first few months as an editor on Wikipedia, I've noticed that numerous pages come with a Page issues banner. However, I am unaware of how to create them for appropriate pages, or how to remove them when appropriate. Any advice on this would be helpful.

Oh, and one more thing…what are the criteria for an article to achieve Good status?

Thank you for creating such a good experience for Wikipedians!

Best, Liam Gibson (talk) 04:25, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse!
 * Those page issue banners are what we call maintenance/cleanup templates. You can see the list of all these templates at Template messages/Cleanup (and there are a lot). When you recognize a problem with an article, and you cannot tend to the matter at the time, you can find the relevant cleanup template and add its tag (e.g. ) to the top of the page. Likewise, if you see a cleanup template that seems to have been resolved, you are free to remove it; when doing so, it's not a bad idea to briefly mention the reason for removal in your edit summary.
 * The criteria for good articles is available at Good article criteria.
 * Let us know if you have any other questions. ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 06:15, 5 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Liam Gibson. Regarding removal of the maintenance templates, most of the maintenance templates you see will have a message in them "(Learn how and when to remove this template message)", which links to Help:Maintenance template removal. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:25, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Good Article protocol
Hi, I think I'm almost done with my first article, Lilias Armstrong and I think it meets the standards for a "Good Article". Before I nominate it, I was wondering if it was typical for people to ask for second opinions from outside the nomination process. E.g., maybe post in a relevant Wikiprojects' talk pages and ask "Hey this article I wrote is up for GA nomination, can I get any feedback from project members?" Most talk pages are pretty dead, but the GA review length can apparently take months as well.

Or do most people just place the template in their article's talk page without much fuss?

Thanks! Umimmak (talk) 06:38, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey Umimmak. I have asked for a second opinion before going for an FA but not for GAs. Looking at the article, you are plainly a proficient writer and have learned the ropes necessary to pen a "contender", that might result in points to address upon the GA review, but is obviously not a "quick fail", so I would go for it. As you intimate, it may take months to be looked at, so be patient. I think my last GA took about 3.5 months before being reviewed. On the other hand, if you really want to try a secondary process first (maybe thinking about the longer road to an FA) you could ask for a peer review. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:53, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I think I'm right in saying that it used to be the case that a peer review was recommended (or even required?) prior to nominating an article for GA status (or is that just FA status?). Anyway, a couple of years ago, I submitted Gateway Protection Programme for peer review prior to a planned FA nomination, but it was never reviewed. In fact, the subsequent FA review got archived through inactivity. The article got there in the end thanks to a repeat nomination, but that experience really highlighted to me how lacking we are in volunteers working to review articles. My suggestion would be the same as Fuhghettaboutit's - that you should just go ahead with the GA nomination. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:04, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Posted suggested updates/edits on Talk pages for two subjects with COI
I posted suggested edits to two Wikipedia pages that are in need of updates/editing. I posted these suggested edits on the talk pages under COI, following the rules of Wikipedia. These edits were posted on April 4, 2017. Does anyone know how long it typically takes for COI edits to be reviewed? Thank you in advance for any insight someone can provide. BluebirdHill5 (talk) 13:26, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi BluebirdHill5. Thank you for using the talk pages. Note also Paid-contribution disclosure. You refer to Talk:Hemispherx Biopharma and Talk:Rintatolimod. I see you did not advertise the requests with Request edit but used coi instead. That is the wrong template for requested edits so it could have taken years before somebody stumbled on the requests and answered them. We have five million articles. I have added Request edit instead. This adds the requests to Category:Requested edits where editors can find them. There is a backlog so it may still take months as the dated list shows. I don't know what is typical. Editors are volunteers, they don't have to start at the oldest requests, and they may skip requests which look difficult to evaluate. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:30, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

translation
I´d like to help to translate articles from portuguese and Spanish Wikipedia to English wikipedia, I am a new editor, I have just finished the tutorial Earth Game Adventure. I don´t know how to do it.Miskito89 (talk) 15:41, 5 May 2017 (UTC) @help
 * Welcome, . There are fairly detailed instructions at Translate, which I suspect you have not read yet; if you still have questions, you can come back here. The two most important parts are that (1) you should not rely on machine translation for the finished product; (2) you should provide attribution saying that you translated the original page. Tigraan Click here to contact me 15:46, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Fact versus it's wrong tag
Usually when I find incorrect info on Wikipedia I fix it and add a reliable source for the correct information. However, this is not possible on the microscope article which is frequently hit with misinformation by non-technical editors, who then demand the info be kept while being discussed. I usually add a fact needed tag. However, what I really want to add is a "this is wrong" tag. This article gets over 5000 visitors a day, and misinformation should be removed quickly. Still, that won't happen. So, is there such a misinformation tag? "Fact" makes it seem like it's fine info, just needs a source. (Please post the get a user name wall of text on my talk page rather than here.) Any ideas? Thanks! -- 2601:648:8503:4467:29A3:AE8B:4BD0:8C1B (talk) 16:18, 5 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello Anonymous and welcome to the Teahouse.


 * You might like to try the disputed inline template in situations like this. The template includes a place to refer to the talk page section where the issue may be discussed and hopefully resolved.  &mdash; jmcgnh  (talk) (contribs)  17:11, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank You! Never heard of it, but it looks perfect, and I will check it out. --2601:648:8503:4467:29A3:AE8B:4BD0:8C1B (talk) 17:40, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * (ec)You aren't required to edit with a username, though doing so does provide some benefits(namely no one can track you by your IP address). That's all I will say about it. 331dot (talk) 17:14, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Please move this to my talk page. Thanks. --2601:648:8503:4467:29A3:AE8B:4BD0:8C1B (talk) 17:40, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

newbie here
Hello fellow editor I'm new to Wikipedia and I'm trying to create a page for a artist and was wondering if anyone can help me to create one. I would be very grateful and highly appreciate it. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drak1r (talk • contribs)
 * Hi . Wikipedia only has articles on notable topics – subjects that have been written about substantively (not just passing mentions) in published, reliable, secondary sources that are entirely independent of the topic. The very first step that would allow such help to be given would be for you to gather a list of those sources to both show the topic warrants an article, and provide the basis upon which an article could be written. If those sources don't exist, then no article is possible so please don't waste your own time. By the way, please remember to sign your posts on pages like this (but never in articles). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:37, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Regarding the article you are trying to create, are you referring to an article you originally posted at your sandbox? Creeper Ninja (talk) 19:05, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Project European Union
Hi,

I want to update the External Resources section of the wikiproject European Union page to remove dead links and add additional resources and archives. I edited it, but my edits didn't go through. Do I require permission for this? If so, from whom?

I would also like to amend the template of MEP's biographies to include dynamic data of their participation in roll cal votes in the European Parliament, as can be seen on votewatch.eu (example MEP). I feel this would greatly enhance these pages. However, I'm unaware of how to do this. This would require some form of scripting that is beyond my capabilities. I do, however, strongly believe that this could, if successful, be utilised to enhance the publicly information on democratic representatives within the wikiverse, and greatly improve the utility of many of their biographies.

Many thanks, EU explained (talk) 23:21, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * There are several edits from you at WikiProject_European_Union/Resources and other EU pages. If there is something missing, perhaps you chose "preview" instead of "save".  RudolfRed (talk) 23:34, 5 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I should clarify, the edits do indeed appear directly on WikiProject_European_Union/Resources, but do not appear on the root article WikiProject_European_Union when I scroll to the bottom. Here, the section remains unchanged from my edits. Also, I'd love to know more about collaborating on my idea of inserting roll call voting data into MEPs biographies.
 * Many thanks, EU explained (talk) 23:47, 5 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Changes to templates or subpages can take some time to be transcluded on to the pages from which they are called. You may wish to purge the root page. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:37, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Why was Winning Jah's article deleted?
Hello i don't see reasons why Winning Jah's page was deleted for one it was not a duplicated page, not a copyrighted material page, two article eritten recently were nominated for deletion an originator of a certain art style is worth a wikipedia notability for educational purpose, two he has millesstones, it is not all about local or grammy awards, fame and innovations needs to be applauded, if someone wrote the article before, that was not  my headache, the article was relevant, this time i saw kind of hatred in this topic, this Musician's article is becoming boring, you guys can create it when you feel is ok by you, thanks. When a new article is written, is the duty of all wikipedian to write it beter than deleting, i never copied or wrote wrong things about this personality, that means there is someone taking this as an offecnce (TajuAyinde)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TajuAyinde (talk • contribs) 07:53, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Click on blue links like this for more information. All new articles must cite multiple professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources which are not affiliated with the subject but still specifically about it.
 * If a source just happens to mention him but is really about someone else -- it's not good enough.
 * If a source is written by him or by someone he works with -- it's not good enough.
 * It is the duty of a Wikipedian to cite their sources when they add new material -- it is every other Wikipedian's duty to remove any unsourced material about living persons. Ian.thomson (talk) 08:04, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . It seems that the article was deleted as a duplicate of an article located at W.Jah, which itself has now been deleted. "Duplicate" here does not mean copyright violation, but simply that we already have an article on a topic, and don't need a second one. See also Articles for deletion/Winning Jah for the discussion that resulted in the deletion of a previous version of the article, to understand why it was deleted. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:48, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I suspect this is about this deletion by me last night, rather than Winning Jah directly. (W.Jah was a redirect to the first I linked). This has been recreated numerous times since the AfD--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:24, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Update company information
Hello,

We are trying to update our company information (U.S. Gas and Electric) because the details on Wikipedia are incorrect and we are wanting to write what we currently have in our website since what you have is fake news, but it's saying that the promotional content is inappropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by USGE33027 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi USGE33027. What you did was post a really blatant commercial in the article, touting the virtues of your company. That content has no place on Wikipedia. It was also a copyright violation, since it copied and pasted non-free copyrighted material from the website of the company (material that is not released under a free copyright license, or into the public domain, as would be required for its use here, even if it wasn't an unsalvageable advertisement). You also have a conflict of interest in editing, and have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory disclosure requirements for paid editing, as you must before making further edits attempting to promote U.S. Gas and Electric. If you have specific information about what is incorrect in the article, after you have made the mandatory disclosure, post to the article's talk page explaining what is incorrect, what is correct, and tell us what reliable, published sources verify the changes you are seeking. You might place  above your talk page post to draw editors to see it. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:33, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * BTW, your username is a violation of our policies and you are likely to be "soft" blocked soon and asked to choose a non-promotional name that represents you as an individual. (I personally rarely block for username violations for various reasons.)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:44, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * , I've gone ahead and removed some promotional language, as well as the last paragraph, which wasn't really related to the company at all. Because I removed the promotional language from the current version of the article, I removed the note at the top of the article that said there was promotional language.  However, the entire first paragraph is completely uncited, so reliable, independent sources need to be added to verify the information.  By the way, each link I've posted above leads to an English Wikipedia policy or guideline.  Wikipedia takes verifiability very seriously.  Unfortunately, some stuff makes it through the cracks without anyone noticing.  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 14:08, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Arijit Singh Songs!
How can I get to know about the latest release of a Song By Arijit Singh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nishant Saini (talk • contribs) 16:34, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello. This page is to ask questions about using Wikipedia, and is not meant for general questions.  You could try the Reference Desk, but you might want to just try using Google or another search engine of your choice to find information about the person. 331dot (talk) 16:41, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Arijit Singh does have an article; click his name to visit it, though I don't know if it will have his latest information. 331dot (talk) 16:43, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Wiki formatting and page breaks...
I am trying to use Visual Editor on my article 'Draft: Dennis Blalock', but need assistance with learning how to change my Word format to the Wiki format...and where to put the page breaks so I can know where to put footnotes....I had used Endnotes on Word but found that is not allowed here.Elisabet Stacy-Hurley 20:17, 6 May 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elisabet Stacy-Hurley (talk • contribs)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. The "footnotes" that Wikipedia uses are in many ways more like endnotes -- they normally all appear at the end of an article. Wikipedia articles do not have designated page breaks, nor are footnotes shown at the end of a page.
 * The technique of writing wikipedia citations is described in Referencing for Begginers and in pages linked from there. In brief, citations are listed within a tag. That is the wiki-source will look like:
 * I do not like nor use the visual editor, so i cannot advise on the bestway to format citations using it. I believe that there re tools to make this easier. In general the citation is inserted just after the sentence or fact to be supported, and Wikipedi will display it at the end of the article in a "Notes" or "References" section, where a reflist template is placed to indicate that the citations should be displayed. Learning to edit the wiki-code is not terribly hard, and I for one think it is more accurate and reliable. But if you wish to use the Visual editor, you can do so, and add citations with it. DES (talk) 01:06, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I do not like nor use the visual editor, so i cannot advise on the bestway to format citations using it. I believe that there re tools to make this easier. In general the citation is inserted just after the sentence or fact to be supported, and Wikipedi will display it at the end of the article in a "Notes" or "References" section, where a reflist template is placed to indicate that the citations should be displayed. Learning to edit the wiki-code is not terribly hard, and I for one think it is more accurate and reliable. But if you wish to use the Visual editor, you can do so, and add citations with it. DES (talk) 01:06, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Notifications about changes on pages in my watchlist
How can I get notifications about changes on pages in my watchlist? I only need one notification for new edits since last checking my watchlist or something like that. Gravecoins (talk) 19:14, 6 May 2017 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  01:07, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Gravecoins. This might seem a bit circular but, well, that's what a watchlist is for; visiting and reading it informs you of changes to pages on it. That being said, at the first page of your preferences, under "Email options", you can tick the box for "Email me when a page or a file on my watchlist is changed". (Note that after invoking this, you will receive notification when any page on your watchlist is changed, which is why many users do not use this feature, e.g., for me, that would be at a minimum hundreds of emails per day given the absurd size I've let me watchlist mushroom to). You can set other watchlist preference at Special:Preferences, as well as in the watchlist interface itself, e.g., setting a period next to "Period of time to display" and others. See also Help:Watchlist, where you can read about using an RSS feed. (That is some sort of dark magic to me, so if you're interested in it, someone else will have to explain its uses.) Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:42, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestions, but none of them are what I need. I do not want to manually go to the watchlist every time to check if there is something new just like I do not want to manually check every talk page I have ever participated in just to see if I get any new replies from other users. That is the very definition of the purpose of notifications. Where can I suggest this feature for implementation? Gravecoins (talk) 00:34, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps this would be useful to you. They won't be implementing changes like you are describing into notifications...it's not going to happen.

Ryde School With Upper Chine - all my edits seem to have been removed and I do not understand why
I am a newbie here and tried to make some edits to this page. I was informed that I had inadvertently breached guidelines about YouTube. So I then pointed out that this was not my intention and then made edits without uploading any YouTube at all. I had been warned off that I could be barred from Wikipedia and that I must stop interfering with the page of Ryde School With Upper Chine. I wrote back to state that I would like explanation of what I had done wrong. I now realise that no videos can be uploaded. I did not realise this. I now ask what can in fact be linked? If videos cannot be linked then why have all my links been removed? It took me a long time to source them and put them together. I had hoped to give a bigger picture but it has just been totally reverted and even included a typing error I spotted with "Spinnnaker" having three "n's" when it could only have two! I despair. I would be most grateful for your help please. I know that some kind person did write to say to me that if I believed that the links were not in breach I could put them up but I do not want to upset anyone and so I am very glad to come to Teahouse for your assistance please. Thank you. Spinnaker766Spinnaker766 (talk) 22:14, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Pinging .  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 22:49, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Please do not dispair, . I took a quick look at your edits to Ryde School with Upper Chine, and while several of them are not in accord with Wikipedia standards, they all seem to be well-intentioned attempts to improve the article. Several points you should be aware of:
 * External links are not normally included in the body of the article, except as part of citations. They may appear in an "External links" section toward the end of the article.
 * Links to Youtube videos are not totally forbidden, but many such videos are inappropriate, and so they are looked on with suspicion. Videos in general should only be linked if quite relevant.
 * A school magazine or annual report if distributed to the public would be considered as "published" and could be cited as a source. It might be considered as self-published by the school and so not independent, but should be fine for non-controversial facts.
 * I do not think your edits were disruptive, but I can see how another editor might have thought so.
 * If there is any question about what should, or should not, go into an article, the article talk page is the most usual page to discuss them, but it is fine to have brought the matter here,
 * I hope the above is helpful. DES (talk) 00:44, 7 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Note that the link is Ryde School with Upper Chine, not Ryde School With Upper Chine. Case is significant in Wikipedia. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:55, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, link corrected above. DES (talk) 01:14, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

how to create a page
how to create a pageJollibeedelivery (talk) 04:44, 7 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse, Jollibeedelivery! If you want to create an article, it's good to start by reading Your first article. It's pretty detailed, but it walks you through the basic things you need to know before you begin, such as our rule that article subjects must be notable. Once you've read that page, if you want to create a new article, the Article Wizard provides an easy way to do it. If you run into difficulty, feel free to come back to the Teahouse and ask another question. Rivertorch   FIRE WATER   05:45, 7 May 2017 (UTC)