Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 736

Review needed of AWB user's recent edits
What's the right venue to request a review of an editor using AWB in a way that I think may be problematic? I'm assuming good faith on the part of this user, and going to ANI definitely seems draconian as I don't want to even hint at any misbehavior. What I really would like, is for an experienced AWB person to just have a look at their AWB use, see what they think, and maybe just give them some good Talk page advice, better than I am able to. I took a crack at adding some stuff to their Talk page about three areas I thought were problematic (see my recent contribs) but as a non-AWB user, I really can't say anything about the AWB angle (so I just stuck to basic WP principles) and have gone as far as I'm willing to on their talk page, or perhaps too far. Any advice? Mathglot (talk) 07:43, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.  The best place to ask is at Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser.  Include as many details as you can about which user, which edits, and why you are concerned about them.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:22, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Biased article
Hi. Spotted a highly biased article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_News. I don't have the time or skills to become an editor, but hoped someone would either take down the page, hide it until it can be reworked or fix it. It's written to discredit the subject of the page. I think it should be preserved as an example to teach about critical thinking and the importance of thinking about who profits/following the money. I checked Wikipedia about Natural News so I could get some useful info to evaluate the writing on the site, but the Wikipedia page slams them for being anti-GMOs and anti-big pharma. I'd be curious to know who wrote the article and who they work for. Thought you might want to put it on the to-be-fixed list and take it down until then. Thanks, Grace — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.170.145 (talk) 23:28, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not really seeing what is "biased" about the article, and unless you have actual evidence of it you shouldn't assume an editor or editors "work for" anyone.  The vast majority are volunteers like you and me. Wikipedia articles contain what is written about the subject in independent reliable sources, whether it is good or bad.  It may be that criticism of the subject is written about by third parties more than positive information, I don't know. If you are aware of independent reliable sources that have more positive information, please offer them. In any event, you may wish to express your concerns on the article talk page; when viewing the article on a computer, you should see a "Talk" tab at the top, click that to access the talk page and post your concerns. Articles are not "taken down" unless they go through an Articles for Deletion discussion, and I don't think one would succeed here.  331dot (talk) 23:35, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The article in question is not symptomatic of bias, but rather of how Wikipedia works. All statements which could be construed as controversial are referenced to an adequate standard, and are therefore permissible. Wikipedia does not slam anything - it merely records the fact that reliable sources criticised the subject in question. Hardly surprising, given that it endorses what are rather niche beliefs. Nothing to see here. We, as editors, cannot use "critical thinking" to alter an article without rhyme nor reason, unless such changes are bolstered by citations. A list of the people who compiled the article can be found here, and the variety of names on the list indicates strongly that there is no inherent agenda at play. Before critiquing Wikipedia, and demanding pretty hefty changes, I would suggest familiarising yourself with how things work here, as your initial comment shows a lack of comprehension in this regard. If you would like, I would be more than willing to assist you in learning the basics, and enabling you to understand why the article, despite surface appearances, is not biased. Hope this helps, Stormy clouds (talk) 00:09, 10 March 2018 (UTC).
 * This article is not biased because the vast majority of reliable, independent sources are harshly critical of the website, and the article properly summarizes that criticism. We do not whitewash or suppress legitimate criticism of pseudoscience websites. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  03:38, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


 * 75.164.170.145 aka Grace: you say "I'd be curious to know who wrote the article and who they work for."
 * You can easily see who has contributed to the article by selecting its 'View history' tab and exploring. If you do so you will see that, after its initial creation on 19th March 2013 by User:Everymorning, it has undergone more than 450 edits by over 50 different editors, not counting bots. This is quite typical of articles on Wikipedia, which is founded on communal effort and concensus and strives to maintain a Neutral Point of View. Note that anyone who has a conflict of interest regarding a particular article, and anyone who is directly or indirectly being paid to edit it, is required to reveal those facts, and may be blocked from further editing if they ignore those requirements.
 * You can also visit the user pages of most of those editors to find out more about them, to the extent of what they have chosen to reveal about themselves. As it happens, Everymorning has revealed an unusually large amount: conversely, we know nothing about you – for all we can tell, you might be the Founder and Owner of Natural News.
 * Please, therefore, be very sure of your grounds before you assume and assert that an article's editors have been biassed or have edited it with a financial agenda.
 * [FWIW, I myself had never heard of the magazine before today and have no personal interest in the general topic, I merely read this Teahouse page regularly and comment if moved.] {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.211.131.202 (talk) 09:25, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Question About Edit Summary Box
I apologize for asking what I'm sure is a very simple question.

I made a small edit to a section of an article and then prepared to explain the edit in the Edit Summary box. The section I edited was titled "History", and I noticed in the Edit Summary box the following: /* History */.

Should I blank that out and type in my explanation of the edit? Do I need to place /* and */ tags around the explanation?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LindaPenn04 (talk • contribs) 03:56, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi LindaPenn04 - "History" just shows which section you had edited. You can type your edit summary after that (no, you don't need to place / / around your edit summary). While you could blank it out if you wanted, it's better to leave it so people can quickly reference what specific section of the article you were working on. Chetsford (talk) 04:16, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


 * By the way,, as long as you're here, I might point out that you can sign your comments/questions on discussion pages such as this one, with four tildes (~), like this:  Bus stop (talk) 04:50, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


 * And as long as I'm here,, I might as well respond to your question. In general that preexisting language would not be deleted, but if you find the amount of space available for your explanation to be too limiting, you can gain a little space for yourself by deleting the language automatically provided. Bus stop (talk) 05:08, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The edit summary length was recently increased from 255 to 1000 bytes so the space should currently never be too limiting, but there is a proposal to decrease it again. Edit summary code like   produces an arrow  ‎ with a helpful link directly to the section so please don't change or remove the code without good reason. See e.g. the arrows at Special:Contributions/LindaPenn04. Write your own summary after the existing code and do not add   around your summary. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:22, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, for the heads up on that. Bus stop (talk) 11:59, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

use pictures
Hi .. I want to add some pictures to my article but they R protected by license(they R from a website that i wanna describe their style) how could i use them? Zara st (talk) 11:28, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. Maybe as non-free content, but that depends on the context so we couldn't say anything certain without specifics. If this is about the article Mahdi Fakhimi, that one is under deletion. Having or not having images makes no difference for deleting or keeping the page, so you should only consider that once the deletion discussion is over. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:14, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

“Oksana Tanasiv” page
I would like to ask volunteers to help with renewal and editing of page recently created and nominated for speedy deletion. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editorforart (talk • contribs) 12:57, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. The article was deleted (as unambigious advertising). You've already asked for it to be returned on the deleting admin ('s) talk page, which is the correct way to do this. If it's returned (as a draft page, I imagine), you can come back here for tips. In the meantime, just read some of our content rules. Happy editing! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 13:31, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, I deleted the article as being very promotional. This is not just a matter of references to the artist's web site, but that the whole text read like an advertisement for the artist, or a CV. I have restored it and moved it to Draft:Oksana Tanasiv, where it can be edited down to a factually based test. Remwember that all statements should be suported or be able to be supported, from reliabel sources. Please read Wikipedia's Golden Rule and Your first article before continuing. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 16:52, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

I want to edit my username for a new account I created
I want to change my username as given below

Present-Craft2art Change- Craft2Art

Please help   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Craft2art (talk • contribs) 08:02, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, welcome to our friendly Teahouse. Normally, I would point an established user to guidance at WP:RENAME, but you've only made 2 edits, so the advice to give you us simply to abandon this account and create a completely new one. This is quite acceptable, so long as you never use the old one. (For complete openness, you could even leave a note on the old userpage to explain the acount is abandoned, and pointing to your new one.) For guidance on what is and isnt OK in terms of user names, here's a special wikipedia shortcut link which will take you there: WP:UPOL. Regards from a rainy UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 08:33, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * If "Craft2Art" is the name of a business or website, it would not be acceptable as a username per the policy Nick cites. Your username must indicate you as an individual user.  A name in the format of "YourName of Craft2Art" would be acceptable(you don't need to use your real name, just something unique to you).  I would also add that if you intend to write about Craft2Art, you will need to review the conflict of interest policy at WP:COI and the paid editing policy at WP:PAID(the latter only if you are paid). 331dot (talk) 09:34, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ...on which account they are now blocked.  —SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 20:09, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

creating an article
Hi all, I work for Bupa and work within the digital comms team - I've included this in my profile information. Bupa's CEO Evelyn Bourke does not currently have a wiki page, despite her being CEO of the UK's largest health insurer. Most of her peers in other businesses have details listed on wikipedia ie Mark Wilson, CEO of Aviva https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wilson_(businessman); Justin King, ex-CEO of Sainsburys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_King_(businessman); Emma Walmsley, CEO of GlaxoSmithKline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Walmsley

I'm keen to rectify this and provide high-level, factual information. Reading the guidance she would be considered a notable person- there are also sufficient high quality external sources. I've also reviewed the conflict of interest guidance, I don't want to create something without first asking if this is something one of you kind wiki editors would be able to support and/or would like to create? I can supply factual information and sources.

Below is some factual information and I have sources to support the statements. It would be great if someone at wikipedia would help? If not, I will explore creating a draft and take feedback to refine from the wiki community.

Suggested copy:

Evelyn Bourke (businesswoman)

[Intro]

Evelyn Bourke (born 31 January 1965) is an Irish businesswoman who has been the Group Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Bupa since 25 July 2016.

[Early life and education]

Bourke grew up in Tipperary, Ireland , on a dairy farm, and is the eldest of six. She was one of the first two women in Ireland to qualify as an actuary.

[Career]

Bourke began her career with New Ireland Assurance as a trainee actuary between 1982-1986, before working in various management roles at the Bank of Ireland during 1986-1991.

She then worked as principal at Tillinghast Towers Perrin  for over 10 years, before joining Nascent Group, (a start-up backed by St James’s Place ) as Finance Director  between July 2001-December 2002. Bourke worked as a consultant advising on strategy and improving financial performance through 2002 and 2003.

In April 2004, Bourke was appointed as Chief Executive Officer of Chase de Vere, responsible leading it through its sale process.

Between April 2005-April 2009, Bourke worked at Standard Life Aberdeen, firstly as Director of Strategy and Planning and Group Actuarial Director, before then becoming Finance Director of Standard Life UK. During this time she also served as a Standard Life Assurance board member.

Bourke became Chief Financial Officer of Friends Provident  in May 2009, and then following the company’s acquisition by Resolution Limited  in November 2009, spent a year as Executive Director  responsible for Finance and Governance.

In August 2011, she was appointed Friends Life UK’s Chief Commercial Officer and member of the board. She then joined Bupa as Chief Financial Officer in September 2012.

After almost four years as Bupa’s Chief Financial Officer, Bourke became Bupa’s Acting Group CEO on 4 April 2016, before being appointed permanent Group CEO on 25 July 2016.

On becoming Bupa’s Group CEO, Bourke established a new strategy focusing the organisation on three core strategic pillars, delivering for its customers, employees loving working at Bupa and strong and sustainable performance. As part of this strategy, the company has expanded into new markets and related business areas, and prioritised digital as a key strategic priority. This includes the acquisition of the health insurer Care Plus in Brazil in December 2016 and the significant expansion of the UK Bupa dental business with the acquisition of Oasis Dental Care announced in November 2016. Bupa also announced its partnership with HealthTap as part of its digital strategy.

In January 2018 Bourke was one of 50 senior executives to accompany British Prime Minister Theresa May on a business delegation to China to strengthen UK-China relations.

Bourke holds an MBA from London Business School and has also served as a non-executive director on a number of boards, including The Children’s Mutual, Opportunity Now  and IFG Group plc.

[Personal life]

Bourke married Seamus Creedon in December 2015, her partner of over 20 years, in Bromley, London.

Andrewbyron (talk) 11:56, 7 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I will create have created Draft:Evelyn Bourke, so that you and others can improve it until it's acceptable as an article. Maproom (talk) 13:09, 7 March 2018 (UTC)


 * you say "there are also sufficient high quality external sources" to establish that she is notable. I hope you will cite some of them in the draft. I failed to find any. I see that another editor has cited three sources in the draft; one (the FT) I can't assess as it's behind a paywall, but the other two don't help much with notability, The Independent says little, and Reuters almost nothing about her. Maproom (talk) 17:31, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks appreciate you helping out! I've gone through and added in the draft and above to support. I appreciate the FT.com is behind a paywall but still listed as it is such a high quality publication. I notice on some CEO exec profiles that they also list their company websites - is this something you'd recommend? There's lots of Bupa corporate sources I could link to like our annual report etc.... Andrewbyron (talk) 13:24, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * You still need to cite sources to reliable independent sources with significant discussion to establish that the subject is notable. If no-one does that, the draft will not be accepted as an article. I see you have added numerous references which are not independent, or which lack much discussion of the subject. This is mildly counterproductive: a cynical reviewer may take the view that you have added all those references as a smokescreen, to conceal your failure to find good references that do establish notability. Such smokescreens don't work. In assessing notability, references are judged on quality, not quantity. Incidentally – I did not intend to criticise the FT source. It's just that while I can't see what the article says, I can't tell whether it has any significant discussion of Bourke. Maproom (talk) 21:47, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Username
I came across this acccount. It is called User:Sock-of-existing-Wikipedian can someone do a Check User for this username? And should it be blocked? Thegooduser  Let's Chat  22:59, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

✔️ Never mind. Oshwah just blocked this account Thegooduser   Let's Chat  23:00, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Templates
Why don't the teahouse invite templates work? Thegooduser  Let's Chat  18:57, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I've just left on your talk page without a  problem.  Are you referring to how the template(s) is/are applied by tools like Twinkle? I must say I thought there was one pre-loaded on Twinkle, but couldn't find it there. There are two TH talkback templates listed at Category:Templates used by Twinkle,  but no welcome messages. Perhaps some of the 'older hands' here could comment. I'm actually interested in knowing how to get welcome templates pre-approved and loaded on Twinkle as I'm developing one for WomenInRed which it would be good to make available in due course. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:45, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Update: I've now established that we don't have our Teahouse welcome template available for deployment via Twinkle, but that wonderful little tool (assuming you have it enabled via 'preferences') does let you leave a TB (Talkback) message on the talk page of a questioner. As you see I've just done for you (albeit a tad clumsily). To use it on another editor's Talk page, go to the Twinkle (TW) menu adjacent to the 'Search Wikipedia' box. Select TB (Talkback), then select the 'Noticeboard notification' radio button, and from the drop-down box, select the last one in the list 'WP:THQ - Teahouse Question Forum' and then submit query to post the Talkback message. If you just put the question heading (not the full wikilink) in the 'Linked thread' window, the recipient gets a functioning link back to their question (providing it hasn't been archived after a few days here) I've not installed any of the Teahost Host scripts, so have no experience of using these at all. (Apologies to new editors here - I'm sure we really ought to have discussed this just amongst the other hosts at Wikipedia talk:Teahouse, rather than bore everyone here with it. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:26, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

I don't mean to be rude here but could you simplify/clarify what you said in the update above? Thanks! Thegooduser  Let's Chat  23:52, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * - I'm really sorry! I was trying to second-guess what your problem was. You asked why the Teahouse invite templates didn't work, but you did not explain precisely what you meant by 'not working', or what you were trying to do with them. I asked if you could expand on what problem you were experiencing, or how you were trying to  deploy the Teahouse templates?
 * Whilst waiting for you to elaborate on the problem you were experiencing, I tested them. As you will have seen, I manually left you both a Teahouse invite and then a Talkback message on your talk page, which confirmed to us both that they were indeed functioning. If you are unsure how to substitute a template, or aren't familiar with Twinkle, then my subsequent mumblings would indeed have made little sense. My sincere apologies for that. If you need me to explain how to activate Twinkle, I can also do that - just let me know. What I can't explain is any issue you  might have experienced using any of these automated Teahouse scripts because I've never installed them. Hoping this is a little more succinct. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:14, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * If your issue was with the first template displayed at Teahouse/Host_lounge/Templates, I've fixed it. Will do a proper check in the morning. It's fine now. Nick Moyes (talk) 02:34, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Supplement to an existing article.
I am a member of the Royal Norwegian Society of Science (DKNVS). There is an existing article about this society in Wikipedia (English and Norwegian versions), but those need to be supplemented. How do I add a supplement in an easy way ?? Am I allowed to do this without asking the Secretary of the Socierty ? Please, give me an advice. Jon Lamvik email: (removed) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lamvik (talk • contribs) 10:12, 11 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, welcome to Wikipedia! Our articles are written by volunteer editors and are entirely independent from their subjects. Anyone can edit an article. You can find a short tutorial on how to do so at Help:Introduction (I'd suggest using the "Visual Editor" if you want the easiest way). One important thing to bear in mind is that anything you add must be supported by a reference to a reliable source. Also, depending on your level of involvement in the DKNVS, you may need to be mindful of our conflict of interest policy. Otherwise, I think you will find it quite straightforward.
 * This is the English Wikipedia and things might be slightly different for the Norwegian version. However, the basics should be the same. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 10:38, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Jon, I've removed your email address from your posting. It's generally recommended that you don't post it in public places as it could result in you receiving a load of spam mail.  Any responses to your question will be posted here, or, as I see you've activated the option, by clicking on the "email this user" link on your User or Talk pages.  Rojomoke (talk) 11:23, 11 March 2018 (UTC)


 * It seems like the Norwegian Wiki has a similar Teahouse at no:Wikipedia:Nybegynnerforum, if you'd like to ask additional questions specifically about their Wiki (other Teahouses are listed in the "Languages" tab in the sidebar). GermanJoe (talk) 11:49, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * At the English language Wikipedia, it is Royal Norwegian Society of Sciences and Letters. A few comments. Here, and when writing comments in the Talk pages of articles, typing four ~ at the end of what you have written will add your User name. When you make changes to articles, there is an Edit summary space at the bottom of the screen. You are expected to briefly explain what you did. When you add content, you are expected to provide citations in support of the new content. The Society does not "own" the article. With a few exceptions, anyone can change any article. David notMD (talk) 11:54, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Name from a brief marriage?
Hi - I'm new to Wikipedia, so hopefully I'm doing this talk thing correctly. I am trying to expand the stub article for Martha Chase. see that her name is given as Martha Chase nee Epstein, but as Epstein is her name from a brief marriage and not her birth name, is nee really the correct term? I think it's important to include all names for her to help people find her, but not sure what the protocol is for this sort of situation. thanks! Biochemlife (talk) 15:28, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Greetings, Biochemlife. I've restored a previous version of the opening sentence of Martha Chase, since, as you say, Epstein was not her birth name (the person who altered the sentence may not have known that  means "born"). I've also created a redirect to the article at Martha C. Epstein. When you see something wrong like this, by all means be bold and fix it. I hope you enjoy your editing experience here. Deor (talk) 15:58, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * thank you so much!Biochemlife (talk) 16:01, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

I want to create a Wiki page for my sporting club
My Hockey Club is 91 years old and i want to create a page for the club, but im not sure where to start? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megabeast84 (talk • contribs) 07:54, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure if by "my hockey club" you mean you play for it or you work for the office staff, but it would be best if you allowed someone unaffiliated with your hockey club to write about it. You probably have what Wikipedia calls a conflict of interest(please read about it at WP:COI) which would mean it is probably difficult for you to write about your hockey club with the proper neutral point of view required.  You would essentially need to forget everything you know about your club and only write based on what independent, third party reliable sources write about it with in depth coverage(not the club website, press releases, interviews, or any primary source). Since your club is 91 years old, I would guess that there is a chance it was written about in third party sources at some point, but you would need to find those.  If it wasn't written about by third parties, or only minimally so, then there can't be a Wikipedia article about it at this time.
 * However, if you think you can write in the correct manner and have the sources, you can first read Your First Article, and then submit a draft for review at Articles for Creation. You will also need to formally declare your affiliation with the club per the COI policy; if you are paid by the club in some way, you will also need to comply with the paid editing policy.
 * I would lastly note that any page you create would not be "a page for the club", but a page about the club. The club will not have exclusive control over it, cannot prevent others from editing it, cannot lock it to the text it might want to see, or prevent negative information from being on it(as long as it appears in an independent reliable source). 331dot (talk) 08:26, 11 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I'd just like to toss in that as an active editor in the Hockey WikiProject, I'm aware that editors have done a lot of hard work over a number of years to create pages for every notable team going down to ephemeral semi-pro teams at low levels and Tier II Canadian amateur junior clubs. I'd normally not think that we'd have missed any notable club that's been around for 91 years, anywhere in the world: could you give us the name of your club?   Ravenswing   16:35, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Judging from their userpage, it must be the Northern Star Hockey Club, Established 1927. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:50, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * , that'd put paid to my caveat, anyway: what the English-speaking world outside of North America means by "hockey" is field hockey, not ice hockey.   Ravenswing   20:08, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Doh! Nick Moyes (talk)

Take This To Heart Record wikipedia page submission.
Hello, I recently submitted a wikipedia page entry for Take This To Heart Records It was declined by a user and they've referred me to teahouse for more help. I'm confused as to why it's being declined still, please see this thread for a little more context:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Theroadislong#Re:_Draft:Take_This_To_Heart_Records_submission

I'd really love some help! I strongly feel this content should be on Wikipedia.

For reference, this is the original submission: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Take_This_To_Heart_Records

-thank you
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Your draft has four references. One is a routine directory listing and the other three are interviews with the record label owner. Interviews are not independent sources. None of these references establish notability. This label has only one notable band, and it seems that band is now signed to another label. We need significant coverage of this record label in independent, reliable sources. Based on the information in the draft, I sincerely doubt the notability of this label. Wikipedia is not a directory of every tiny business in the world. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  04:09, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

thank you for the response. i hate to continue comparing to other entires, but i'm having a hard time understanding how these approved stubs vary from mine! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolero_Records https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everfine_Records https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Engines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzic_Records aka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Other_stuff_exists — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytaylorpub (talk • contribs) 20:29, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Civil War
The civil war did not start over slavery, it was about the south's anger at the taxes they had to pay, they felt it was too much while they provided cotten for the north. Less then 10% of southerners owned slaves as they could afford too. The issue of slavery came later as the war progressed. It is false to say that slavery was the issue that began the war. Thousands of southerners did not go to war to protect the rich land owners. Seems like history is being rewritten falsely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kelleydye (talk • contribs) 02:40, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. All the histories I have read say that there were multiple causes of the US Civil War. Certainly many in the North wanted to abolish or modify slavery, and many in the South did not want that to be forced on them, as they saw it. Economic issues were also important.
 * Was there a particular Wikipedia article that you think should be changed in this regard?
 * This page, the "Teahouse", is primarily for helping people, particularity newer Wikipedia editors, with questions about how to edit Wikipedia. Do you have such a question? DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 04:22, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Greetings, and thanks for leaving your comments here at the Teahouse. Wikipedia needs 'fired-up' editors like you to add content and references to articles like the Civil War. Do you have some sources, citations that you can use to support the statements that you shared above? If so, you may be able to contribute this information to the Civil War article. But if you are simply leaving a message here at the Teahouse about your concerns, there isn't much I can help you with since this is a place for new editors to ask questions. Best Regards, Barbara ✐  ✉  21:37, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Help! How to use WP Refund
Help me, please. I am not a sophisticated Wikipedia writer, I'm just a loyal user. I wish to request that The Bosman Twins Wikipedia page be restored. I was told that I could make that request via "WP Refund". Can someone give me instructions? I am unable to figure it out alone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pr1775 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. WP:REFUND is a shortcut and nickname for Requests for undeletion. Full instructions are to be found on that page.
 * However, the page The Bosman Twins was deleted under WP:CSD, Pages created by a banned or blocked user in violation of their ban or block. Deletions for that reason are not restored via the "refund" process.
 * If you enable the "email this user" function, and specifically request that I do so, i will send you a copy of the wiki-text of the article by email. I will not restore the article.DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 02:58, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

OUT OF THE ORDINARY - Article Rejected
Hi,

My article Out of the Ordinary here has been rejected for two reasons.

The comments were:

'Whilst some of this article is fine,the cast section contains quotes, whilst never referencing the quote, or saying who it is by. Everything that is said, should have a reference. The pictures are also un-encyclopedic, as this is not an article on the performers. Lee Vilenski(talk) 10:17, 5 January 2018 (UTC) '

In regards to the first comment, the quotes the editor refers to are from the published play. This can be solved with a footnote or reference?

In regards to the second comment, the editor's ruling seems inconsistent with related articles: other plays do contain performance photographs correctly sourced and these add to the visual appeal of the articles - see, The Lion King (musical), We Will Rock You (musical), Play It Again, Sam (play), Heaven (play), The Zoo Story, Network (play), The Full Monty (play) and Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.

Please advise. (StephenFBanham (talk) 06:29, 12 March 2018 (UTC))


 * The first unsourced quotation in the draft reads 'two parts Daria, one part Olive Penderghast. Glasses. Gingham. Feisty attitude.' That doesn't look like it comes from the play itself. Anyway, it's a quotation, and its source needs to be specified.
 * Also, the article is about a play, not a particular performance of that play. All the pictures of the actors need to be removed. So do qutotations like the one above, assuming that it refers to a particular performance.

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 * Hello. This page is to ask questions about editing and using Wikipedia, and is not meant for general questions.  You could try the Reference Desj but you might be better off making use of a search engine like Google, or contacting Adobe directly for assistance. 331dot (talk) 08:22, 12 March 2018 (UTC)