Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 739

Draft:Northeast Arc
I reviewed Draft:Northeast Arc and declined it as reading more like an advertisement for the organization than a neutral description. User:Dthomson102467 asked me to re-review it, saying that they had made the language more neutral. They have made the language more neutral, but the draft still has the same notability issues as I mentioned in the first decline, because it has no independent references. I see that the author has edited only about the organization, and I have asked about conflict of interest. Will other experienced editors please comment on the draft? Robert McClenon (talk) 22:32, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * That draft has many problems,  and . The most severe problem is the complete lack of references to coverage of the group in reliable,  independent  sources. An acceptable Wikipedia article summarizes what such sources say.  Another serious problem is that the body of the draft is filled with external links, which is not allowed.  There are formatting problems that can be resolved easily but only if the two major problems  are addressed first. Cullen328   Let's discuss it  03:34, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Another problem is that the draft is about a local chapter of Arc of the United States. We normally do not have articles about chapters or branches of larger groups. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  03:39, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Cynthia MacAdams
I reviewed Draft:Cynthia MacAdams and declined it as being non-neutral and apparently written to praise its subject rather than describing her neutrally. Its author User:Lynneuna asked me to re-review it. I see that it has been edited by two editors whose edits are focused almost entirely on her, so I have asked about conflict of interest. She does appear to be notable. I am also asking here for the comments of other experienced neutral editors.

Robert McClenon (talk) 22:12, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * In February, because I had some idle time, I trimmed the article by about 25% in an attempt to tone down the gush. Could use more trimming, especially those lists, but if not NPOV, approaching. David notMD (talk) 02:55, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Cut the list of museums (saved in Talk). Most had no supporting ref. Of the two that did, the Smithsonian was one photograph, and the Tweed was a visiting show of 26 women photographers of whom CM was one. Lynneuna has since put the entire list back, still without references. David notMD (talk) 10:10, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Pages for individuals buried in a pioneer cemetery (not notable people)
I am assisting a local library to consider options for sharing information about a pioneer cemetery.

Currently the information is in a non digital format. I have suggested that Wikipedia offers an option to get general information online, but am not sure if multiple pages (900 entries) would be 'allowed' under wikipedia guidelines for each person listed. They would be individually referenced against the burial register (so they are referenced individuals).

What would other Wikipedians suggest?

James — Preceding unsigned comment added by James Leech (talk • contribs) 04:20, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * An article for each burial? No. We only have pages for notable individuals. See WP:NBIO and WP:NOTAMEMORIAL. An article for the cemetery? Possibly, if the cemetery is notable. See WP:GNG. A list of all 900 burials in the cemetery article (assuming the cemetery is notable enough to warrant an article)? No. Individual entries would still have to be notable. A standalone list of all 900 burials in the cemetery? Not unless the topic of who is buried there is notable. See WP:LISTN. Meters (talk) 04:38, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please understand that Wikipedia is not simply a means to disseminate information, this is an encyclopedia, where article subjects must be shown with independent reliable sources to be notable.  As Meters indicates, the cemetery would need to be shown to be notable in order to merit an article here, and even if it was, that would not necessarily mean that every burial there could be listed in the article. I would wonder if teaming up with a local historical society that might have a website would be a better option for what you want to do. 331dot (talk) 10:14, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * findagrave.com and billiongraves.com are websites for listing cemeteries and people interred in those cemeteries, and photographs of headstones and historical information on the cemetery and the individuals and genealogy. David notMD (talk) 10:16, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles references approachable
Is it possible for wikipedia to approach an article for profitable purposes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGreenLantern (talk • contribs) 00:53, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you clarify what you mean by that? If you are referring to writing an article for promotional purposes, then Wikipedia is not the place for that as it is an encyclopedia. Darylgolden(talk) Ping when replying 03:30, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * If you are being paid by someone to write an article, you must disclose this information per Wikipedia's paid-contribution disclosure policy. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:06, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

George Roy has been cited in existing Wikipedia pages like City Dump HBO, Broad Street Bullies documentary and others
I am trying to create and maintain a simple wikipedia page for George Roy and having some difficulties. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avalanche2018 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Editors have cleaned up the article and made it into an acceptable stub. --Neil N  talk to me 16:08, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

BEST Wikipedia poster
In need of BEST Wikipedia poster we can find that's affordable! Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.54.159.207 (talk) 15:54, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * This is the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit, though some editors have created more articles than others. We are all volunteers here, we don't get paid, so we are all "affordable".  You can request an article at WP:Requested articles.   Beware of scams offering paid editing.   D<i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  16:33, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I took this to be asking about Wikipedia posters, and wondered what they were looking for. --ColinFine (talk) 17:56, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, well in that case, I've got you covered.  G M G  <sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk   18:52, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Or there is this rather nice category on commons, or try C:Category:Wikipedia promotion. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:09, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Question
Isn't there some page where a person can view the newest created articles?? Thanks Goveganplease (talk) 15:26, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome. Special:NewPagesFeed is what you are looking for. This page is accessible through the Recent Changes page as well. 331dot (talk) 15:29, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Since you are being so helpful 331dot, isn't there an added tool that extended confirmed users can use as well?? A tool that allows them to mark pages for deletion and review pages?? Thanks again Goveganplease (talk) 15:31, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * You may be referring to Twinkle(though you just have to be autoconfirmed to use it) or to Page Curation(where you have to request the ability to use it and meet the criteria listed at the link). 331dot (talk) 15:36, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The old school view is here: Special:NewPages. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:39, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Ismet Asllani
Hi guys,

Can anyone here contribute to the article that I have wrote about Ismet Asllani?

I believe, there are much more information out there that is relevant to add to the article and hence improve it even more?

I would also like to improve my skills further as editor in Wikipedia. Anyone here with some good advice?

BR,

Makolli86 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Makolli86 (talk • contribs) 00:23, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. Seeing that you are very motivated and competent in this subject, I think you are in the best position to improve the article right now. If you can find more information in more sources, be bold and expand the article. When you feel that you've exhausted your effort or can no longer find new sources, you could post a note on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Kosovo that has editors who are also interested in similar topics, or try The Wikipedia Library. Remember, there is no deadline, so you can keep improving the article as you find new sources. I've performed some minor copyedit. Overall, I think the article looks promising. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:55, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Why Is My Draft:Matt Ox Declined?
When I Create a draft, its not rejected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DamienDaEsketit (talk • contribs) 20:21, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The user who declined your draft gave you the reason why and some advice in their decline notice. Your draft does not indicate with independent reliable sources how Matt Ox meets the notability guidelines for musicians listed at WP:BAND.  Please review those guidelines, and if Matt meets at least one of them, you will need to show it with independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 20:24, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Another sandbox question
Hi I wrote my first article yesterday and accidentally did something to my sandbox. Someone here fixed it (thank you!), but I don't know how they did it and now I'm stuck again with the second article I wrote. I have reviewed the training materials, but clearly I am missing something in the steps to creating an article and moving it properly to the mainspace. I think today I may have accidentally renamed my sandbox as the name I was trying to move from the sandbox to the mainspace. Now I don't know how to fix that. I don't know why I'm having such trouble following the directions to creating an article in the sandbox and moving it to the main space but if you can help and also suggest any other training material I would appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Profarch (talk • contribs) 21:12, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome back to the Teahouse. Apparently, you moved your sandbox to Beer Doctors (at 11:38, 13 March 2018‎ ET). This left a redirect pointing to  the Beer Doctors  page in your sandbox. Then, a minute or two later, you moved the sandbox page, then a redirect, to Vasant Shinde. That page has since been deleted as a test, since it never had any content but a redirect to Beer Doctors.
 * I have now reset your sandbox. I did this by editing it and replacing the entire content by  in this edit. You can do the same any time you want to reset your sandbox in future.
 * By the way, I don't think that Beer Doctors is ready to be a mainspace article. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 01:20, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

moving
i need help finding a place to move into i have practically no experience in looking or finding a new place to live im really mostly a loner and would prefer something for just myself any help really i have no clue where to start our how to find a place for me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mexawap (talk • contribs) 01:31, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello there. Unfortunately The Teahouse is for discussing questions about editing Wikipedia. Sorry. But thanks for dropping by. Thegooduser  Let's Chat  01:41, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi need help for my draft
Hi,

I am a little concerned for my draft : as it has a tagline for speedy deletion i have provided necessary changes. Kindly let me know hoe can i improve my draft for getting it approved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Optrajennifer (talk • contribs) 07:26, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi and welcome to the Teahouse.  You created Abhijeet Gholap in article space.  It would probably have been better if you had created a draft in WP:Draft space where you would have been allowed time to get your draft into shape and make improvements before moving it to live space.  I'd recommend draft space for starting any future articles, then you do not risk speedy deletion. There is lots of advice, and a question that you need to answer, on your talk page.   <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  08:02, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, I assumed from your post that you meant the article to be a draft, so I moved it to draftspace for you and left you a message. That said, it had been through AFC before and I'm not clear how it got approved.


 * But the larger issue is that currently you are accused of failing to state your Conflict of Interest as a presumed paid editor, and if you don't respond to those allegations, your account may be blocked, and it would not be unlikely that the Admin would "salt" the page so that it could never be re-created without Admin involvement (to make sure someone does not come back by a different name and try to create the article). So please do the needful, check your Talk page and respond to the concerns that you are simply here to promote a business. MatthewVanitas (talk) 08:17, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for explaining this to me now i understand the meaning of Paid article i did answer the question on the talk page. Please guide me again for getting the article published.Optrajennifer (talk

Why Raj Era Sources are not Accepted
Hello i have a problem regarding an article and all my edits are reverted as those Sources are belonged to British Raj Era of india. So, here my doubt is Why Raj Era Sources are not Accepted and what was the reason behind it Sathishkagitha (talk) 03:42, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. As I understand it, in short, these sources are generally not seen as WP:RELIABLE, being to a great extent to old and wrong. When it comes to sources as old as this, they should in general not be used directly, but through the works of respected more contemporary scholars. You can find links to several WP-discussions about such sources at User:Sitush/CasteSources. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:08, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The sources has been trying to use are scholarly works, published in 1896 and in 1909. I doubt that reliability is in fact the issue. Maproom (talk) 07:58, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * , the British Raj didn't end until 1947, so 1909 sources still are definitely "Raj era". the reason for mistrusting Raj-era sources is that they are interwoven with British political priorities (not to mention scientific racism) in India which is seen as contaminating their truthfulness and objectivity. So there is a strong preference for using post-Raj sources by recognized academics. MatthewVanitas (talk) 08:23, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * You may be right, but WP:AGE MATTERS. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:25, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

New here, please help
Hello, I have posted a new biograhical article presently in draft form. The initial posting was very brief, Curb Safe Charmer(talk) was nice about it he suggested a visit to this Teahouse and suggested I add more details and references. I have done it since and submitted again for a review. Not sure if the references are properly formatted. Find it quite daunting. If anyone can help it will be appreciated. The article is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Prem_Nath_Sahni Have not figured out how to enter talk properly yet and what tilde means and what is their application. But guess without trying one will never learn. Regards to any who read this and apologize for any errors.

shyamu111(talk)--Shyamu111 (talk) 09:34, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I have left you some comments at the top of your draft. MatthewVanitas (talk) 08:09, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * if you are using a keyboard which does not easily have a way to type "~" four times, please note instead above your editing window there is a line of symbols that has a B then an I and then a tiny image of a pen signing a name. You can simply click that little signing-pen and it will sign and date your posts on Talk pages, without the need to type tildes. MatthewVanitas (talk) 08:54, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello thanks MatthewVanitas (talk) 08:54, 16 March 2018 (UTC) --Shyamu111 (talk) 09:36, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

MatthewVanitas (talk)Followed up on your comments. There was one reference that was a general one on Haryana that I have removed. All others have information on the person with name including the government documents because he was part of the government. Would love to post more info from newspapers of the time if I can find it. From my understanding he did appear in the newspapers then from time to time in news related to sports or governments of Punjab and Haryana, but so far discovered the leading newspapers of his time are not keeping archives i.e before 1999. Thanks again for your suggestions. Shyamu111 (talk--Shyamu111 (talk) 09:51, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

writing submissions
thank you for your responses. i will be able to review the suggestions prior to siting an submission in a manner you find acceptable. again thank you for your suggestions,assistance, and time assistance. i look forward to a long an long relationship. sincerely, kstarr marlo,ceo,phd marlowecharities,celestialproductions,krazy4musik,krazy4politiks and other companies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbmnj (talk • contribs) 10:17, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Further to the previous conversation, I'm still puzzled about your reasons for refusing to write in standard English. I'm also concerned about possible conflicts of interest if you create articles about your companies, but perhaps that is not your intention.   <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  10:38, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Sand box review.
Hi, and yes its good to talk especially regarding procedures. I am working in my Wikipedia Sandbox. as I would like to send the edits and text for review by Wikipedia volunteers. The bar at the top of the page enquiring if I want to send the text for review is no longer visible. Question for you, how do I send the text for review, or has this changed, and we can no longer send text information for review via the sandbox?

Best regards Mike ( new to Wikipedia) MikeWilkins (talk) 12:11, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * You accidentally removed the "User sandbox" template in one of your edits. I have re-added it to your sandbox. Keep your edits below the line that says "EDIT BELOW THIS LINE" so you don't accidentally remove it again. Iffy★Chat -- 12:24, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

A thankless task?
I have been working on a number of pages involving Greek railways (updating, expanding and creating). I do this because it needs to be done and it takes my mind off other issues (not for any personal glory as such). However, a little feedback on how I am doing would not go amiss... Thank You  The Emperor of Byzantium   (talk)


 * Hi, and welcome to the Teahouse. Thankyou for your contributions.  Please see Dash for the correct way to refer to the line from A to B. ( Lots of editors get this wrong. )  <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  20:52, 15 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi thank you for your feedback, that helps... silly little mistake maybe, but it courses all sorts of issues and knock-on effects. I'm Dyslexic so it's that much harder but coding is something I enjoy and any feedback (as long as its constructive) is welcomed Thank You   The Emperor of Byzantium   (talk) 12:55, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Templates in userspace?
Hello everyone. I would like to create a template or two for my own personal use, and I would like to have a place where to put my "unfinished" templates, so that I can work on them in chunks. Is there a way to create templates in the userspace, so that they stay "personal"? Thank you very much for reading my question. ---roroke (talk) 03:53, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi roroke. You can transclude userspace pages like templates by giving the full page name, e.g. . Parameters and template code work the same way as in the template namespace. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:13, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the tip Hunter, I'll do just that. ---roroke (talk) 04:17, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * , I frequently use userspace pages when i am developing and testing a new or revised template. However, you should be aware that pages in your userspace can be seen by anyone who chooses to look, and content in userspace pages is available for reuse by others on the same terms as all Wikipedia content. Most Wikipedia editors do not look at the userspace of other users, but some do. One can get a list of any user's userspace pages. For example here is a list of pages in my userspace. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 15:22, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Des thank you for the info, I will keep it in mind. ---roroke (talk) 15:39, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

My Article - Dr. Devasia Kurian is deleted
I have written an article Dr. Devasia Kurian on his biography but it has been deleted with a reason of advertising but the article does not have any promotion or advertising content then why it has been deleted?. How can I retrieve the page and re-edit to approve the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by F.alam (talk • contribs) 12:30, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and Welcome to the Teahouse}}. Please understand that on Wikipedia, "promotion" includes not merely commercial advertising, but any content intended to promote or favor a subject. In the article Dr. Devasia Kurian, which you largely wrote, such phrases as , , , , , and   are all quite promotional in tone. In general Wikipedia articles should be strictly and narrowly factual, with opinions and judgements present only if they are directly attributed to a named and cited source, preferably via a direct quote. Adjectives of quality, such as "distinctive" should usually be avoided.
 * I also urge that you start any new articles as drafts in WP:DRAFTSPACE where they can be reviewed before all the rules of mainspace apply. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 15:46, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Finished writing a wikipedia page, how do I publish for review?
Hi -- I need help... I finished a wikipedia page about a famous person in Orange County, California, USA. Now, I want to publish for review but when I push the prompt button to "publish for review" a yellow box appears that tells "Press the Publish changes button at the ⇓ bottom ⇓ of the edit box to request a new review. A box explaining details about this submission will appear at the bottom of the page. An automated robot will update the page later and remove the draft article box" -- but there is not a "Publish changes" button at the bottom of the edit box.

Thank you for your help and direction.

Carol Finizza, Wikipedia editor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8802:4401:6B00:98FA:AE4D:ED88:38F2 (talk) 16:09, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, Carol. Welcome to Teahouse. As much as we'd like to help you, we need to have some more information to do so. The post I'm replying to is the only edit that has ever been made from the IP address you're posting from. Did you forget to sign in? If you don't have an account, we'll need a link to the draft you are talking about in order to help. John from Idegon (talk) 16:56, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Help with Location Map being put into my Info Box
Dear teahouse, I am trying to add a Location Map into my Info Box. Could you please help to do this. The page I'm editing is Hutton_Moor_End. The page is about a place in Cumbria, England. The Latitude is- 54.634943 and the Longitude is -2.985794 The Country is England, the shire county is Cumbria and the post code is CA11 0SX. The location's OS grid reference is NY365271. When I try to do it I get close but not close enough and it is not being certified. Thank You. DavidJonesMore (talk) 17:12, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikilink for convenience: Hutton Moor End. John from Idegon (talk) 17:21, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Article deletion "NEO-Americana cooking style"
I recently submitted an article titled Neo_Americana cooking style. This is completely different than New American cooking. The NEO-Americana style is encompassing all the worlds food. The project has been in the process for ten years. New American is just trendy food from the USA, and does not encompass all 192 countries of the world or their food. The use of cooking techniques and ingredients from around the world to create fusion blends of any or all countries is the goal of the NEO-American Style. And the additional projects from this style should be included in Wikipedia.Thomasbadillo95 (talk) 17:56, 16 March 2018 (UTC)Thomasbadillo95
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you want the deletion of NEO-Americana cooking style to be reconsidered, contact the deleting admin on their talk page at: User talk:Anthony Appleyard. If you two cannot reach consensus, the next step is to post a message at Deletion review. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:12, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Have my contributions helped?
Hello. I'm unsure if I have made a little more work for contributors on some pages/articles I have contributed to. Thanks 🖍S 09:46, 16 March 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CrayonS (talk • contribs)
 * Hello, . From a quick look at your contributions in articles, in particular Sándor Pósta, they are overwhelmingly positive, so be sure we (as a community) appreciate them even if you get no feedback for it. Was there something in particular that you wanted more eyes on?
 * Also, just a note that this (and the following on that IP talk page) were not a high point of your Wikipedian career. It is certainly not a big deal but you are supposed to remain "civil" (=polite, essentially) even in front of reckless vandals, see also WP:DNFT. Tigraan <span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me 10:57, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello. Thank you. I actually get these pages from the random link. <3 just made a contribution to the Spotify article. I agree I should've not said anything about the vandal. At least I didn't WP:DNB and went with Hanlon's Razor. Thanks 🖍S 17:53, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep up the great work, ! That is what I remember from years back when I started too: as a new user it's difficult to know if my contributions were improvements, as not every edit I made received feedback. But rest assured, be bold in making edits and, if necessary, engage in constructive discussion to reach agreement with other editors. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:23, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Why did my article get deleted?
Hi, I wrote an article about a rare medical condition my brother has, but it got flagged for speedy deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.30.220.125 (talk) 18:33, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You are not logged in right now, so we are unable to see what articles you have created. Please tell us either your username or the name of the article so that we can look into it. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:37, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

ISBN parameters
Hello I am trying to add two new publications to a page and keep getting an error message regarding the ISBN parameters. It's on the Molly Lamb Bobak page. Any tips? Many thanks, Hilary — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hletwin (talk • contribs) 18:40, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey Hletwin. I believe I've fixed it for you. Looks like you were adding a faulty ISBN. Maybe you made a mistake in copying and pasting?  G M G  <sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk   18:58, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I've corrected one in ; ISBNs are 10 digits or 13 digits, not 11. GreenMeansGo has fixed the other, see above. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hletwin (talk • contribs) 19:21, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

How to put the translation of the title if the subject is a foreign thing?
So I've seen something like: StuffInOtherLang (lit. ''EnglishTranslationOfTheThing). What template you use for that? And the pronounciation thing that displays pronounciation in IPA. What template should be used when dealing with foreign language things? TryKid (talk) 21:55, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, . That depends on the language, but the following line usually does the trick . Use the appropriate language code, found here. I'm not that familiar with IPA but the instructions are here: IPA. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:06, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Help with- Infobox UK place with more than one value for the "coordinates" parameter. Only the last value provided will be used.
Hello, I am trying to insert a Infobox UK place into my Infobox but when I do it this message appears- Warning: Hutton Moor End is calling Template:Infobox UK place with more than one value for the "coordinates" parameter. Only the last value provided will be used. This is what I am putting into my edit source- coordinates              = 54.634°N, -2.985°W Could you help me please? The page I'm editing is Hutton_Moor_End Thank You, DavidJonesMore (talk) 18:26, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The documentation at Template:Infobox_UK_place gives an example of a value you could assign to the coordinates parameter:
 * 41.8375°N, -87.68194°W
 * Maproom (talk) 19:04, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hey DavidJonesMore. I believe I've fixed it although I'm not totally sure what the problem was.  G M G  <sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk   19:03, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, That is really great it looks brilliant, I appreciate it a lot. All I have to do now is put a red circle marker at the place's location. Do you happen to know how to do this also? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidJonesMore (talk • contribs) 19:17, 16 March 2018 (UTC) Hi, I can see the red circle at the location now! Thanks a lot for that it's brilliant! DavidJonesMore (talk) 20:07, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Writing a not-auto biography
Hi, I'm new here altho I have used wikipedia for many years. I signed up to put my own biography up but don't want to break NPOV!

Could I ask someone here to profile me? Lonnie.webb (talk) 19:49, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. Read Notability (people) and tell us which (if any) of the criteria you meet. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:56, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * If you do as Finnusertop states and truly feel that you merit an article on Wikipedia, you can make a request at Requested Articles, though it may take some time before someone gets around to writing it. 331dot (talk) 20:07, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, and ! I am not notable, only podcasting and comics. I'll stall until I get noticed!Lonnie.webb (talk) 20:14, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * since you've learnt how to edit Wikipedia and already know about its rules, we hope you'd stay here and edit other topics. Almost none of us Wikipedians are notable, but all of us love to edit articles about topics we know about. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:16, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Oh, for sure,! I just suggested an edit! Thanks for the encouragement.Lonnie.webb (talk) 20:30, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

how do I become an admin
I understand that it seems like Wikipedia is understaffed in the admin section because it took them a month to respond to me to get an account I would like to stress how thankful, lucky and happy I am to be a user. and I would like to help speed up that process I don't want to use it improperly or abuse it I just want to help administrate more great and peaceful editors to Wikipedia or block and disrupt vandalism. so now that I have explained anything I might want to do I would like to ask a few Questions are there any requirements for admin privileges? e.g. seniority of a year and a certain number of edits or articles published or something else. also is restricted admin privileges a thing like for simply banning and stopping accounts that proliferate vandalism? furthermore, I would like to stress my respect for anyone who responds to this and will completely understand whatever is said I am simply curious about this process and hope that I can help administrate help to others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Government Man (talk • contribs) 14:39, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * You can read about it here: WP:ADMIN. You need a lot of experience and support from fellow Wikipedians to successfully become an administrator.  Thank you for wanting to help, but concentrate instead on learning and contributing to Wikipedia in other ways and improving articles. RudolfRed (talk) 18:49, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey Government Man. Account creation is actually separate user right that is available for non-administrators who demonstrate a need for access and an understanding of the relevant policies. The only requirement for becoming an administrator is being able to convince the community that you are a person who will use the advanced permissions responsibly and competently. However, Wikipedia is a big place with a lot of things to learn, and doing this often takes many years.
 * Requests for accounts are backlogged, and because we are a volunteer run project, many other areas are backlogged as well, most of which do not require special access of any kind to help out with (see the list available at WP:BACKLOG). Helping out in these other areas in a way that demonstrates your responsibility and growing competence is usually how most users come to have advanced permission, including ones below and above administrative access, and so is probably a good place to start.  G M G  <sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk   18:58, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * You first started making edits today, have made only a handful, and majority of those have been reversed by more experienced editors as not contributing to the articles in question. Perhaps put in more time learning how to make constructive edits? David notMD (talk) 21:35, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

U.S Sience
I was wondering if you can post a source about U.S regions because I have know idea what the Appalachian region is so if you can help me that would be great thanks.THEGREECEPEACE 00:01, 17 March 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greecemaniac2005 (talk • contribs)


 * Have you seen List of regions of the United States, which includes a link to Appalachia? Rojomoke (talk) 00:37, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Upage

 * User:Pritamseth77148 This is a Promotional Userpage. Should it be deleted? Thegooduser   Let's Chat  00:35, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I've deleted it. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:36, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Thegooduser  Let's Chat  00:37, 17 March 2018 (UTC)


 * User:Emanuel Bonakele I think I found another promotional upage. Thegooduser   Let's Chat  01:11, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I've deleted that one as well. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:53, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you but could you block this (I listed at the end) account and delete the upage if it hasn't already,because it is a promo account it's called User:Bobby Kaku motion movies Thanks! Thegooduser  Let's Chat  02:10, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It's no problem. The delays are only because I wander off to play Doom. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:15, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * In future, it would probably be better to tag the pages for speedy deletion. Promotional user pages would fall under the U5 and/or WP:G11 criteria. You can do so quickly with a tool called Twinkle, which you don't seem to be aware of (you have never used it before, as far as I can see). Thanks! <b style="color:#FA0">Darylgolden</b>(<b style="color:#F00">talk</b>) Ping when replying 03:40, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

IP Address Range Blocked for Registration?
In the course of trying to recover my Wikipedia password, I was led to an account creation page. That page states that "Account creation from IP addresses in the range 173.8.0.0/16, which includes your IP address, has been blocked by Berean Hunter . The reason given by Berean Hunter is ": too many sock accounts created rapidly".

It seems to me that blocking a class-B for this was rather arbitrary. The WHOIS database at ARIN clearly shows that the /13 is owned by Comcast Cable - a large ISP - with many smaller parcels such as the /18 I'm in reassigned to direct allocation (173.8.128.0/18). My little static IP block of 5 addresses is in that range. The /16 which was blocked doesn't even have an ARIN entry, and that /16 does not correspond to a single entity or geographic region at all. It seems to me that someone just "saw a bunch of accounts coming in " and blocked the /16 as a matter of hasty convenience.

Sadly, I tripped over that, and I imagine others have as well. How can we get this researched and corrected?

Thanks for any education! — Preceding unsigned comment added by GlenBarney (talk • contribs) 01:35, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, . I suggest that you ask this question at User talk:Berean Hunter. That editor has many years of experience on this project, and knows what they are doing. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  05:53, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

I have an older account...
I have an older account, but that account is no longer active because I forgot the password. How do I say that the account's no longer active and all messages should go to my new account, which is the account I'm using? Itsquietuptown (Talk • Contributions) 13:31, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * - (Do you spend hours in the garden?) - leave the retired template on the user page and talk page of the other account, and leave a note there redirecting to your current user page. Also leave a note somewhere on your current user page disclosing this previous account, to avoid accusations of sockpuppetry. Hope this helps. Stormy clouds (talk) 14:20, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Disappeared Page
Hello, I'm trying to figure out the simplest way to edit a page that has incorrect information.

Sources: Currently watching the show on the IDGO App, where all seasons and episodes are listed in order.

The page for the TV Show Disappeared on ID, has episodes listed incorrectly, and I don't know how to edit the page to fix it. I tried copying and pasting the info into the correct place, but it didn't work.

For example, season 3 of Disappeared has 13 episodes, not 17, like is listed on the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disappeared_episodes#Season_3_(2011)

The last episode on the IDGO App, is Episode 13: Silent Night.

And then from there, season 4 starts with Episode 1: Running For Her Life, and ends with Episode 14: Innocence Lost

Season 5 starts with Episode 1: The Road Not Taken - Episode 17: Missing By Design

Season 6 starts with Episode 1: Lost in the Dark - Episode 15: At the Crossroads

Season 7 starts with Episode 1: Somebody's Watching - Episode 10: Girl Interrupted

Season 8 starts with Episode 1: American Gothic - Episode 13: The Long Way Home

Season 9 starts with Episode 1: A Date with Danger (Note, this is a brand new season and the only episode that's aired so far.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaSamFan2018 (talk • contribs) 23:40, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. I suggest that you post your suggested changes at Talk:List of Disappeared episodes. That is where changes to that list are normally discussed. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 17:38, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Editing Help
I'm new to Wikipedia and I'm having trouble adding section so if someone could give me step by step directions on how to do that it would be great. ₦₭ THEGREECEPEACE 02:35, 17 March 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greecemaniac2005 (talk • contribs)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . To create a new section using wikicode, you start a line by typing two equal signs, followed by the name of the section,  and ending with two equal signs.  It looks like this:

==New section name==


 * For a handy reference sheet that explains the most common wikicoding techniques, please read Help:Cheatsheet. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328   Let's discuss it  04:39, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * For a rather detailed intro to the topic, you could also see WP:SECTIONS, though just take the instruction in The Wikipedia Adventure step by step and it should become clear. I remember when I did it that some of the pop-up instructions appeared right at the very bottom of some pages, and were easy to overlook. Your best approach to understanding how Wikipedia works is to all of the Missions in order. I see you still have quite a few badges to collect.Nick Moyes (talk) 17:54, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Wasted Spark pdf
Hello, the Wasted Spark (Automotive Ignition System) has a pdf at the bottom of the page for a 2CV Ignition System Diagram. Pdf is actually takes you to a pornographic website. Visited last night 17/3/18 approx. 22:00 GMT. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.242.66 (talk) 20:21, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Wasted spark did have a url in a ref that led to a porn site. The ref had been there over 5 years and looks legitimate, so I believe the problem is with the target site. I have commented out the url for now, but the link is still there in older versions. Should this be marked as a DL or is there something more appropriate? <b style="color:#00FF00">MB</b> 21:00, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Creating a new page
How do I create a new page? How do I go to the Article Wizard? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnbeatableFlame154 (talk • contribs) 21:54, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I would caution you that successfully creating a new article is probably one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia.  It takes time, practice, and effort.  New users who are most successful at creating pages first took time to make small edits to existing articles and gradually worked their way up to more substantive edits and eventually creating an article. This allowed them to learn firsthand how Wikipedia works and what is being looked for in articles.  You may want to take the Wikipedia Adventure, a tutorial of sorts.
 * When you are ready, you should read Your First Article which summarizes the process and what is being looked for. It is important to understand that all articles must indicate with independent reliable sources how the subject is notable(as Wikipedia defines notability).  We aren't interested in what the subject states about itself, only in what independent parties state.  If that is something you are prepared to do, you should visit Articles for Creation where you can draft an article and submit it for review by another editor before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia; this way, you get feedback and advice on it beforehand, instead of afterwards when it will be treated more critically. 331dot (talk) 22:07, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I see on your user page that you indicate you had two prior accounts that you forgot the passwords to. It would be a good idea for you to indicate which accounts those were on your userpage, so you avoid accusations of sockpuppetry. 331dot (talk) 22:09, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Editing Help
Can someone help me with adding in sections because I'm new to Wikipedia and can't figure out how to do it. Please show step by step or send me a link so I can learn about Wikipedia more. ₦₭ THEGREECEPEACE 02:49, 17 March 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greecemaniac2005 (talk • contribs)

You can use this. == Section name == 🖍S 09:51, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi there, and welcome to the Teahouse! Help:Section might come in handy . Hope that helps! -- The SandDoctor Talk 02:01, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Editing Help
How do I finish mission 7 in the Wikipedia adventure because I don't get things the they tell me to do. so if you can help thank you. ₦₭ THEGREECEPEACE 05:24, 17 March 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greecemaniac2005 (talk • contribs)
 * Hello there ! What part are your stuck on? -- The SandDoctor Talk 03:13, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Dodge viper class changed.
Hi, a few weeks ago the Dodge viper was labeled a super car under it's class. Now it's labeled a sports car. I was wondering if it could be changed back please. Us viper owners would really appreciate it. A Mazda Miata is a sports car lol. Thank you for your time. Have a great day and thank you for all the information you provide! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:1CB0:7500:91A5:5CD5:2A25:DBC0 (talk) 22:45, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi . The place to discuss this would be the talk page of the article, Talk:Dodge viper. I see you have already made the change; if your edit is reverted, you should open a discussion on the talk page. However do note the consensus on what to say will be based on how the car is described in reliable sources, not what makes its owners feel good. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 23:01, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Case is significant in page titles. Try Talk:Dodge Viper instead of Talk:Dodge viper. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:36, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Removal of tag
Over at the Political Correctness article, an administrator had added a tag stating "This article is missing information about examples of complaints being called politically correct. Please expand the article to include this information. Further details may exist on the talk page. (February 2018)". The tag makes sense as the article currently has zero examples of complaints being called PC. A small minority of editors continue to revert this tag without consensus. I am not interested in edit warring, but the tag should certainly stay until the situation is rectified. Is this something that would be best served by an RFC? Just curious as I don't know protocol in this type of situation. How do we make sure the tag stays up until things are straightened out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.114.214.45 (talk) 22:53, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi there and welcome to the Teahouse ! Consensus should probably be gathered on the article's talk page if possible. (or any other admin) could you lend a hand? (cc admin who added tag, ) -- The SandDoctor  Talk 01:51, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not a "small minority" when there are more people removing than adding... that makes you the "small minority continuing to add this tag without consensus". Koncorde (talk) 04:11, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The important thing is that the article be improved in a way that has relatively broad support. If that can happen soon, it matters relatively little whether or not the tag is on the article.  I'm drafting some language and will post to Talk:Political correctness. -- Beland (talk) 06:32, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Editing Tupac Shakur Personal Life On His Wiki Page
I am totally confused in how to edit info on Tupac Shakur's wiki page. Have tried repeatedly to follow directions but have no idea what to do. Is there someone who can edit on my behalf or even phone numbers to call? 2PacKidada (talk) 08:45, 18 March 2018 (UTC)


 * welcome to the Teahouse. You got a response to this question here - did you see that? New editors can't edit the Tupac Shakur article directly. You need to post to Talk:Tupac Shakur and suggest your additions or changes there. That talk page works just like this one does. --bonadea contributions talk 08:53, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

I need help.
hi everyone. i need someone to create a new infobox template for me as i tried already and it didn't happen. i really felt frustrated. Do reply me if u can... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pluseditor (talk • contribs) 09:09, 18 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello I assume you mean what is shown at User:Pluseditor/sandbox where you are trying to create "Infobox hill resort"? The problem is you are trying to copy the code provided by a template (the labeled rows, etc) rather than the code to make a template. For example, go to Template:Infobox film and you can see it shows the empty form used for the template. However if you click "Show source" at the top, it will show you the mroe complicated coding to actually create the format.


 * If you want to create such a template, I suggest you find a similar template, copy its code (not the format you fill out in the template itself) and copy it to your sandbox and modify it to have the title and fields you want it to have. Does that make sense?

Please help
hey I'm still a baby when it come to editing and publishing so can someone check out this article that I just made it would be great. It is called Krijger so if you like it tell me on my talk page at User talk:Greecemaniac2005. ₦₭ THEGREECEPEACE 00:18, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * moved to draft namespace and notified on Greecemaniac2005's talk page. I have also responded on the talk page. -- The SandDoctor Talk 01:40, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, . Could we try to work out why your signature appears to be broken? It needs to include at least one link to your user pages. Often, all that is needed is to untick the "Treat the above as wiki markup" in the signature section of Special:Preferences. Can you try that? Cordless Larry (talk) 10:02, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * About the article, which an admin moved to Draft space. No. Really, no. It has no references. You suggested that people contact you, and you described your expertise in languages. All of this is a no-no. As in, No. I suggest you set aside this draft for a while (it can stay parked for six months) and start building experience by improving existing articles. David notMD (talk) 12:04, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

How to safe a sandbox article?
Hi, instructions tell me I can write an article in my sandbox, then push 'save' but I do not see such a button appear, wherever I look over several days of checking options. One draft I wrote and edited indeed disappeared. I have created a user profile now but still see no 'save' option. What to do? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smileroad (talk • contribs) 09:57, 18 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello when you are writing in your sandbox, below your editing/writing window there are several rows of special buttons, below that a space for your "Edit summary" and below that a bright-colored button that says "Publish Changes". That is the button you want to push to save your sandbox edits, or save changes on any page (like you did here on this Talk page). Does that answer your question? MatthewVanitas (talk) 10:27, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello Matthew, I got it, I thought "publish changes" it means it would go public already. As far as I understand, this version is not searchable yet and only public to a limited extent. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smileroad (talk • contribs) 13:08, 18 March 2018 (UTC)


 * You are the latest victim of the fact that the WMF decided to change the software so that the button said "Publish" instead of "Save" without changing the instructions. The "Publish" button does not publish a draft to mainspace but merely saves the draft. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:13, 18 March 2018 (UTC)


 * You do not have a sandbox yet. The only page in your User space is your own User page, User:Smileroad.  If you want to create a sandbox, click on the "Sandbox" link near the top right of the screen.  This will tell you there is no such page yet, and give you the option to create it.--Gronk Oz (talk) 13:36, 18 March 2018 (UTC)