Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 766

Question
How do you upload images on a page that doesn’t have any images — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flan 100,9 (talk • contribs) 01:42, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. You can choose or upload your own images from Wikimedia Commons Thegooduser   Let's Chat   01:47, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * To expand on the rather succinct reply from, have you already found an image image you want to use on Wikimedia Commons? If not, go to this main page and type a keyword in the search box (it's at the top right in desktop view). If you find an image you like, but it's not quite the right one, you could click one or more of the "Categories" listed at the very bottom of the page. This helps keep related images together and helps you find others.  You are not allowed simply to take an image from any old website and upload it for use here - that would be a breach of the photographer's copyright unless they had made it specially available under a Creative Commons licence, free for private and commercial use.


 * So, on Wikimedia Commons, let's assume it's an image like this one of a cup of tea that you want to use. Using an existing one is easier than a brand new image of your own that you would first have to upload from scratch. So, click on the link in the previous sentence, or click the photograph you see here - you're taken to the same place - and look just above the picture, and beneath the filename where you'll see a line of five small links. Look for the link with the tiny Wikipedia 'W' logo and the words "Use this file". Click that link and select the text offered to "Use this file on a Wiki as a Thumbnail". (The convention is always to add an image as a thumbnail, no matter how much you'd love to make it larger.) Copy the link to your clipboard and then go to the Wikipedia page you want to add it to (let's assume we want to add it to the page we're on now). Edit the page (ie click the tab labelled Edit Source). Scroll down to the section you'd like to add it to, and paste in the text you copied at the very top of that section. By default, this adds the thumbnail picture and its caption on the right hand side of the page, as you see here. To change the caption text, just edit the text to the right of the vertical bar - or 'pipe'. Don't change the filename.jpg text itself or the image link will be broken. There are some useful links on this help page: Images with further guidance and tweaks, or detailed layout possibilities at Picture tutorial.
 * Of course, if you are using the alternative Visual Editor (which is a bit more WYSIWYG), the process is slightly different. You once again navigate to the section where the image is needed, then, in the editing toolbar, click Insert > Media. At the search bar in the popup that then appears, type the keyword to search for certain image types, or just type in the filename of your image you've already chosen from Wikimedia Commons. Select the image and then click 'Use this image'. Before inserting it you'll be prompted to add a caption. Captions can include hyperlinks, but that's probably best left for another time. I hope this helps.
 * If you need advice on actually uploading your own image first, that requires a slightly different answer and a mention of copyright issues. Let us know if you need further help on that. Regards from the UK. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:56, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

The ridiculous article cleanup backlog.
This is crazy. There are 22k articles needing cleanup, some from ten years ago, which means that nobody is even looking at it. Is this normal, or is it just kind of abandoned? --9563rj (talk) 05:08, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello Wikipedia is a constantly evolving document, and it stands to reason that some articles are better than others. In a very similar way, the backlog of articles lacking references goes all the way back to 2007 (when we had a huge surge in new articles far beyond our ability to screen them all). There are indeed people working on the backlog from oldest to newest, but it's a long-term process. And the articles that get viewed more often, or are more clearly lacking, tend to get more people involved.
 * On the other hand, English Wikipedia's standards continue to rise, so articles that would have zipped through fine 10 years ago aren't allowed through these days, through the Articles for Creation or New Page Patrol processes which catch flawed articles earlier in the process. So the old articles are slowly (eventually) being improved and the newer articles are held to higher standards. MatthewVanitas (talk) 06:08, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Given that Wikipedia has over 29 million pages, of which nearly 10 million are in the encyclopedia, and 4.2 million are articles, that's a astonishingly low percentage of articles needing cleanup. ー「宜しく 」 クロノ  カム  06:31, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess so. Still, it's quite a lot in an absolute sense. --9563rj (talk) 16:53, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

How do I create a category on a page?
I wanted to add some information to my grandfather's Wikipedia page and I was just wondering how to add a category (for example, 'Early Life" on a celebrity's page). How do I do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebekahbird (talk • contribs) 19:00, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I think you are confusing "Category" with "Header", as "Early Life" is a header that appears at the beginning of a section of an article.  For example, the header of this section is "How do I create a category on a page?". A Category is a means of grouping similar articles together, and appears at the bottom of the article. A header is created by using equals signs on each side of the name of the header, as you can see by how the header of this section is structured(if you look at it when editing this section). The number of equals signs used determines how large the header appears. 331dot (talk) 19:05, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

George W. Bush
Hi I'm planning to add this part into the Bush article regarding his war crimes in Iraq. "Bush has also been accused of war crimes after the Iraq invasion, including being convicted in absentia and possibilities that he may be unable to visit Europe due to fears that he could end up in the International Criminal Court at the Hague in Netherlands. In 2011, he cancelled his trip to Switzerland due to risks of legal action against him for "alleged torture". In 2015, he was banned from entering Venezuela and accused of "committing terrorism and grave human rights violations" when he was in office. Desmond Tutu has also called for him and Tony Blair to be taken to the Hague over the Iraq War and accused him of lying to get rid of Saddam Hussein."

Anywhere in his article I can add this, like in the lead or any sections? --166qq (talk) 19:13, 2 May 2018 (UTC)


 * , the place to discuss this is on the talk page of the article, not here. John from Idegon (talk) 19:21, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I am confident that such an addi5tion will be controversial, no matter how well sourced, and I agree that it should be discussed on Talk:George W. Bush DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 19:29, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note that the second and last citations have been corrected to avoid a listing in the "Category:Pages with citations using unnamed parameters" Martin of Sheffield (talk) 22:15, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I would also note that it would be "alleged" war crimes as Bush has not been convicted of anything. 331dot (talk) 21:20, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Ip address/logged in
If I am logged in and if someone on the same ip address is using Wikipedia. Would they remain as an ip? Thegooduser  Let's Chat   21:08, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, . It is possible for multiple computers to have the same IP address, depending on how they connect to the internet. For example it is not uncommon for several computers on the same home network to have the same IP at the same time. In such a case, each could be editing Wikipedia. If the separate individuals using each all log in, each will be editing with an account. Otherwise, any who do not log in will be editing as IP editors, and the same IP will be displayed for their edits. This is one of several reasons why it is a good idea, although not required, to have and use an account. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 21:39, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * By the way, it is a good idea to use a section header here a bit more specific and unique than "Question". It can cause confusion when someone tries to follow a link from the edit history to the section, as such a link goes to the first section whose name matches. It also give people more of a clue what you want. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 21:42, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I am logged in and someone else is on Wikipedia on the same internet network but on a different computer. Are they an ip? Thegooduser  Let's Chat   21:43, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * it depends. If that person logged in with his or her own account, then no. Otherwise yes. It doesn't make any difference that you are sharing an IP address. (Of course you both still have an IP address, even when logged in. But when someone on Wikipedia says that another editor "is an IP", what is normally meant is that the person is editing without logging in. Probably a bad habit of speech, but I do it too.) DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 21:48, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * So I am logged in as Thegooduser and my sister is viewing Wikipedia on a different computer, she's an IP Right? Thegooduser  Let's Chat   21:51, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Probably, . Unless she is logged in as User:Thegoodsister (or some such account), yes. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 22:04, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * So To say in a nutshell she is not logged in right? Thegooduser  Let's Chat   22:06, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, exactly so. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 22:14, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You can see this for yourself on one computer, either by using two different browsers or by opening a private window at the same time as you're logged in. That way, you can be logged in to your account in one window (your normal browser), but be editing as an IP user at the same time (in another browser or in a private window) – but you still have the same IP address. And if you're logged in on a mobile device or a laptop, go somewhere else and connect to another network somewhere else, you'll still be logged in even if your IP address has changed. /Julle (talk) 22:24, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

How many reliable independent sources are enough? (I have 4)
Hello Teahouse, I am attempting to create a page for a musician (Einer Bankz) and was initially rejected, as I only had two reference sources listed. I have since added 2 more, and in this case they are all reliable and reputable (Complex, Mass Appeal, Pigeons and Planes, and XXL). Would 4 sources be enough, or do I need to add more? Jrodio89 (talk) 03:49, 2 May 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrodio89 (talk • contribs) 02:52, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Courtesy link: Draft:Einer Bankz
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . The requirement is "sources", a plural number, so the absolute minimum is two. But the quality of the sources and the depth of coverage of the topic is also important. Also relevant is any possible promotional aspect. A biography of a 19th century historical figure cited to a book length biography published by a university press, and a ten page article about the person in a respected historical journal would be enough. There are no promotional concerns in this case. On the other hand, when a draft article is about a contemporary music figure, then promotional concerns are very real. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for promotionalism. Brief passing mentions in many reliable sources will not be adequate. Instead, we are looking for independent sources that devote significant coverage to the person who is the topic of the draft article, including extensive biographical discussion of the person's life and career. Reviewers are especially looking for sources that offer solid evidence that the person meets our notability guideline for musicians. The bottom line is that there is no "magic number", and you must be able to convince skeptical reviewing editors that the musician in question is notable, as Wikipedia defines that term. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  05:33, 2 May 2018 (UTC)


 * In particular,, note that interviews do relatively little to demonstrate notability, and at least 2 of your cites seem to be to interviews. When there is an introduction or other section in the reporter's words, not the subject's, that can be treated as an independent article, but the Q&A section consists of statements by the subject, and so is not independent. Some depth of coverage is desired here. One rule of thumb is that there should be at least several paragraphs about the subject in each of the sources used to establish notability, although that does not always apply. Also, press releases and news stories largely derived from press releases do not help establish notability, because hey are not independent. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 05:41, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have fixed your link. Septrillion (talk) 00:07, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Edit-a-Thon Question: Ghanaian Women ?
First, where should I inquire whether is an edit-a-thon in progress? Second, more specifically, is there an edit-a-thon to increase the coverage of women from Ghaha?

I just reviewed three pages containing four stub drafts on Ghanaian women. One of them was married to a President of Ghana, and I decided that being a First Lady was ipso facto notability enough. It was a stub, but we accept stubs if they establish notability and otherwise are appropriate. One sandbox contained drafts on two women. This appears to be a case where the edit-a-thon organizer didn't properly instruct the participants as to one article one subject. (Also, neither of them was a clear case of notability anyway, so declining it wasn't a problem.) So, how do I find out whether there is an edit-a-thon, and who its organizers are, and is there an edit-a-thon on women from Ghana? Robert McClenon (talk) 00:12, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I've also just seen several pages on NPP about Ghanian people (written by Ghanians too). Adam9007 (talk) 00:15, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Many, but probably not all, edit-a-thons, are listed at Meetup, or on pages linked from there. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 00:32, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Authority name
Hi everyone, a little question about taxa pages. The authority name (not in the taxobox), can be set to BOLD? Example:

Species
Blabla specia Linnaeus, 1758

I found it more visual. My regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeónHormiga (talk • contribs)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse, anonymous editor. The relevant guideline is Manual of Style/Text formatting, and the shortcut is MOS:BOLD. This is not an approved use of bold type. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  03:04, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I would like to reinforce the advice that has said, if I may. It's great to see you as a new editor adding articles on taxa that are not yet represented here. But emboldening authority names and dates is not only an unacceptable international scientific convention, it is definitely not one that Wikipedia accepts either. I hope you can appreciate that it is absolutely essential that editors do not pick and choose their own favourite styles with which to create articles. If we all did that, we'd be in a real mess. So please would you remove the bold formatting for all authority names from Phylloscyrtini, Nusalala, Hemerobiidae and List of Hemerobius species. In the latter case you've also chosen to add letter codings and grey text to indicate sources. Again, I really appreciate you wanting to do this, but it's not OK to devise your own conventions. Please remove these too. Simply use the references you've already used in the lede, rather than giving coloured letter coding for them. I hope this makes sense. Feel free to look at other lists have approached this issue, and come back if you need any further advice, or ask for guidance at the relevant WikiProject. I hope you enjoy your editing journey here with us. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:20, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Done, I had the doubt because I saw that styling before. The grey source was already there. Thank you for the answers LeónHormiga (talk) 17:29, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reverting those edits - I honestly think they do look better without the emboldening, irrespective of what any style manual says. Most people only care about the binomial, so too much emphasis on the author isn't really that helpful. I've dropped the other editor a note just to query how they arrived at their approach to referencing data sources in grey letters, and I note these lists were possibly bot-created. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:33, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Dead link references
If an article's only references are bare URL dead links, then is it appropriate to remove them? Specifically, am cleaning up the article Korea Nazarene University --9563rj (talk) 02:16, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * No. The tags that you added link to WP:Link rot which tells you not to remove the refs.   --David Biddulph (talk) 02:24, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. --9563rj (talk) 02:27, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm not getting adopted by an editor.
I've been waiting for weeks to get adopted. Yet nobody has adopted me. What do I do if I can't get adopted because I've only been on for 40 days and I haven't been adopted yet. HorsesARENice'' Ride me to my talk page 19:46, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have fixed the template on your user page. You should be adopted soon. Septrillion (talk) 22:14, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Pinging as he has offered adoption. Septrillion (talk) 22:36, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes,, I left a message on your user talk page offering adoption / mentorship (I rather prefer the latter term, but it is the same thing in this context). DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 22:39, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

So what do I do now that I'm adopted? HorsesARENice'' Ride me to my talk page 04:21, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Ask him any question, I guess? Septrillion (talk) 04:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Instead of posting questions at Teahouse. David notMD (talk) 10:08, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Am new here. What's teachouse all about?
Please beloved, what is Wikipedia Teahouse about? Am new here sorry. I need clarifications thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legendenivid (talk • contribs) 09:29, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome Legendenivid! It's a place to ask questions, so you're starting out fine! More precisely, it's a place for newcomers to ask questions if they need help figuring out how to edit Wikipedia – recommendations for what to do, technical guidance, what are suitable topics for an encyclopedia and so on. /Julle (talk) 11:47, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Need Help with Book Creator
I will make a $200 donation to Wikipedia if someone can help me resolve my problems with the book creation tool.

I am preparing to become a science teacher at the high school level and would like to have several different books on different science subjects. I created 3 books, but have substantial difficulty using them. 1. It is difficult to find the page where the contents of each book are listed. 2. When I try to add a page to an existing book, the page is added to a new book that I have not created. 3. If I have the same page in more than one book and delete it in one book, it deletes it in both books.

I would like to be able to open Wikipedia, go to one of my books, see the content all listed, search for new material, add it, save the updated book, and have it work that way every time.

The book help section is not helpful in resolving my problems. If someone responds with the right help, it make a few tries and a few more questions, so please be patient with me. There is a lot of technical how-to information on using Wikipedia, but I need something really simple. Thanks.

Thanks, MactheTeach --MactheTeach (talk) 07:21, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I am not totally familiar with the nature of your issue so I will leave it for others, but I did want to say that whether you make a donation or not has no bearing or relevance to any activity here.  The Foundation does not, except in extremely rare cases, affect activities here.  I'm not trying to discourage or encourage you to give a donation, it will be appreciated, only saying that you don't have to offer a donation to motivate receiving assistance. 331dot (talk) 08:09, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, no editor or reader should have to pay the Foundation to get help. We can either help you or we can't, but that shouldn't depend on your ability to donate money – while donations are always appreciated, Wikipedia should be there for anyone who can access it. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 12:18, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Book Creator has some problems and is currently unable to download the books. A message says "for a short period of time" but it may not be so short. Without starting the book creator, click Contributions at top of any page to find the pages you have edited. Click one of the books, or first click "Subpages" at the bottom to see pages you have saved at Special:PrefixIndex/User:MactheTeach/. Your contributions to the Book namespace [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=MactheTeach&namespace=108&tagfilter=&start=&end=] show you have also saved books there. Books in your userspace and the Book namespace are completely separate even if they othwerwise have the same name like Book:Plate Tectonics and User:MactheTeach/Books/Plate Tectonics. Changes in one will not affect the other. I suggest you only work on books in your userspace. Click "Book Creator" at "Edit this book" to continue work on that book. When you want to overwrite the previously saved version of the book, enter the original name at the bottom right of Special:Book after "User:PrimeHunter/MactheTeach/". PrimeHunter (talk) 11:51, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Reading/Web/PDF Functionality has the latest status update for what's happening with the books-to-PDF function, if one's interested to follow what's happening. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 12:18, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Delete unnecessary redirect page
Can the redirect page Cool Like You (album) be deleted since the page Cool Like You exists without the (album) part? Thanks. ▲RedScrees (talk) 12:32, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. I have retargeted it so that it points to Cool Like You rather than to the band. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 12:37, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) ▲RedScrees (talk) 12:43, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Edit and update an .svg
Hi, how do I edit the file 'Fox News World Providers Map.svg' and update it to remove South Africa.

Thanks, Waddie96 (talk) 09:03, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * The file you're talking about is at Wikipedia Commons, Commons:File:Fox News World Providers Map.svg. You can download the file (using the "Original File" link just below the image), edit it with a vector graphics editor (see the Comparison of vector graphics editors to find one that suits you), and update the file (using the "Upload a new version of this file" link in the "File history" section). If you need more help, you're probably better off asking at the Help Desk of Wikimedia Commons. rchard2scout (talk) 14:43, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Adding a photo of a 3-dimensional object
This concerns the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_James_Wilson

I would like to add a recently taken photo (of a Victorian gravestone) with the title 'John James Wilson's family gravestone. Cleaned and photographed by the Friends of Old Folkestone Cemetery (FOFC).'

It gives reference to his artistic achievement with the inscription ’FOR 30 YEARS A MEMBER OF THE INCORPORATED SOCIETY OF BRITISH ARTISTS.’ and also mentions his baby son and wife.

It would be helpful to show the photo here. Would that be useful/possible/necessary?BFP1BFP1 (talk) 09:05, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . If you are the photographer and hold the copyright, then you can upload the photo to Wikimedia Commons. But the photo itself is not a reliable source. The names "John", "James" and "Wilson" are so common that we cannot be sure that the two people are the same, and gravestones do not have professional editorial control. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  09:13, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The photo was not taken by me. The people who did would be happy to give permission. How can this be arranged to satisfy Wikipedia? Regarding the name, I originally had the word 'painter' in the article title but it was removed. I suppose it could be reintroduced in the photo title.Thank you for your comments.BFP1BFP1 (talk) 11:25, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * An alternative photo title could be 'Family gravestone of John James Wilson (painter). Cleaned and photographed by the Friends of Old Folkestone Cemetery (FOFC).'. Thanks for the advice. Is there a now an acceptable way of including it in the article?BFP1BFP1 (talk) 11:55, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello,. Please see Requesting copyright permission for the steps to take to get an acceptable declaration of permission from the person who took the photo and holds the copyright, and ho to send that to the Wikimedia foundation and get the image uploaded. See also Donating copyrighted materials for some related information. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 13:41, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks DES. I will look this up.BFP1BFP1 (talk) 15:23, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Are IP edits not respected on Wikipedia?
Hello, I do occasionally make some edits (with sources) on Wikipedia from my office, home, phone, my girlfriend's phone without ever have thought on making an account, but whenever I see it after days/weeks, it's already been reverted, mostly without any summary. Are IPs considered as second-class editors here? Can an IP file a complaint against abuse by long-term editors? 110.225.245.49 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:06, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * IP edits tend to be looked at more closely because a bigger proportion of these are vandalism or otherwise unhelpful, but we get some excellent edits from IP addresses and of course these are kept. There is no prejudice against remaining anonymous and not creating an account (though actually you can be more anonymous with an account because IP addresses are partially traceable).  Normally, the reason for reverting an edit is given in the edit summary, and sometimes on the IP talk page.  You have no article edits from your current IP address so we don't know what edits you are referring to.   Dbf</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  15:54, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Help
How to upload image on Wikipedia? Kpgjhpjm (talk) 16:16, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! You can choose or upload your own images from Wikimedia Commons. Septrillion (talk) 16:27, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * To expand on this:
 * If you would like to contribute a work that you created (a photograph that you took, etc.), you may do so on the Wikimedia Commons, a Wikipedia sister project that hosts freely-licensed media.
 * If you would like to use a copyrighted image that you did not create, you may do so if it is important for the portrayal of the article subject. For example, we can add copyrighted album covers to articles on albums, movie posters to movie articles, and an image of Mario on the Mario article, as these items are important to identifying the subjects at hand. If your image fits these criteria, you may upload the image under a claim of fair use on Wikipedia through the File Upload Wizard. The Wikimedia Commons does not host copyrighted works under a claim of fair use.
 * I know this might be a lot, so if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 17:16, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Bots
What is a Bot? Kpgjhpjm (talk) 17:13, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * , a "bot" is an automatic program doing small and simple tasks on Wikipedia. You can read all about it here: Bots. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:15, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Please post any further questions here rather than on the talk page as this is the appropriate place. Thank you! Septrillion (talk) 17:18, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Color word.
How do you make the word in color on your userboge without having a new page? UserboxMaker35 (talk) 16:55, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Septrillion (talk) 17:05, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! UserboxMaker35 (talk) 17:06, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem! Septrillion (talk) 17:08, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Also, how do you get a alert page for your Userpage and talk, like the editnotice page stuff? UserboxMaker35 (talk) 17:11, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * None of your 330 edits are to articles or article talk pages. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a social networking site. Please try to work on improving the encyclopedia if you want to contribute. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:06, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft articles: Moonlighting Film Production Services, Genevieve Hofmeyr (Film producer), Philip Key (Film Producer)
Hello there

Recently, an editor requested that my articles mentioned above in the subject line be speedily deleted. I have rewritten them extensively in my own words and made them much shorter. Could you please revisit them and accept? I'm sorry for the original mistake - I am new to Wikipedia and still learning. Moonlighting Film Production Services and its co-owners Genevieve Hofmeyr and Philip Key have produced major Hollywood blockbusters like "Avengers: Age of Ultron", "Judge Dredd", "Mad Max: Fury Road" and TV series - they are Africa's leading film producers, so I'm not entirely sure why one of the editors said they are not notable (there are, for example, producers from other countries that have made less notable films that have Wikipedia entries). Thank you very much. Mockby 123 (talk) 10:49, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Links:


 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. I see that two of the articles were previously speedy deleted as copyright violations. I am glad to see that the current drafts do not have this issue. Genevieve Hofmeyr is not and apparently never has been suggested for deletion in any way.
 * You were not told, at least in the comments on the drafts that I read, that the topics were not notable. You were told, correctly, that the drafts do not yet demonstrate that notability. More and better sources are needed in both. Please reread the comments provided by when the drafts were declined. Please also read our guideline on the notability of people and Your first Article. Please understand that Wikipedia only has articles about notable topics, and that notability is most often demonstrated by having citations to multiple independent professionally published reliable sources, Sources published by the subject, or by a person or company closely associated with the subject, do not count towards notability. Each such source must discuss the topic in some detail, not just a brief mention. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 13:28, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, and, when starting a discussion here at the Teahouse about an article or draft, please provide a wiki-link to it. It help us correctly answer whatever questions are asked. Thank you. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 13:31, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello DESiegel

Thank you for your helpful information and guidance. I have spent a long time now finding adequate sources to demonstrate the notability of both subjects. I have also written to Legacypac on his talk page and asked if he would mind to take another look and accept if he thinks that the sources finally demonstrate notability sufficiently. I would like to ask you one more question. Do you perhaps know why the Genevieve Hofmeyr article does not come up in a Google Search?

Below are links to the articles, in which I've updated the sources, for your convenience:

Moonligthing Film Production Services: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Moonlighting_Film_Production_Services#History Phillip Key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Phillip_Key#Biography

Once again,thank you very much. Mockby 123 (talk) 18:07, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * , new articles may be marked so that Google will not index them for up to 90 days, or until they have been reviewed by the new page patrol. After that, Google will index them on its own schedule, which Wikipedia has no control over. Orphan articles which no other article links to, may be slower to be indexed. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 23:16, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * By the way, a wiki-link is Genevieve Hofmeyr, made with the wiki-code, not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genevieve_Hofmeyr just for your future reference. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 23:16, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Help (creating an infobox)
How to make an infobox? Kpgjhpjm (talk) 17:22, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello what do you want to make an infobox for? Are you quite sure there is no existing infobox that fits your needs? If there is no such box, you can create a new one by just searching the title you want to use (like Template:Infobox actors from Foo) and then copy the coding of a similar infobox, paste it on your blank template, and then modify it to suit your needs. But again, I would only do that if you are quite sure there is no existing infobox that works. MatthewVanitas (talk) 00:25, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * infobox Septrillion (talk) 00:27, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Info Graphic when searched on Google
Hi

I am looking into creating a page on the site.

Can you advise how I am to great a Wiki Info Graphic for my business (replacing the Google Info graphic)?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.27.52.135 (talk) 23:57, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi and welcome to the Teahouse.
 * Symbol move vote.svg Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:05, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, IP editor. Wikipedia is a neutral online encyclopedia, not a place to promote your business. You have a clearcut conflict of interest regarding your business, and should proceed with great caution. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  00:42, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Editing a Reference
Hi. I noticed on the DXC Technology page that the second source in the References section no longer links to the article it states it links to; instead it redirects to Yahoo News. I have found what I assume to be the same press release on their own website, here. However, I couldn’t quite figure out how to fix this, or flag this for someone else. Thanks for any advice or addressing this! Sharrington88 (talk) 02:59, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ I have fixed it, . The cite was pointing to a copy on Yahoo Finance, and so when Yahoo took it down or changed the url, it became a dead-link, and display defaulted to Yahoo news. I changed the URL to point to the copy you found. Thanks for calling attention to it here. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 06:09, 7 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I see that has already fixed this.  Thanks for raising it. --Gronk Oz (talk) 06:07, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Contested Photographs
Hello, I write here to explain a situation which I am not sure how to resolve. On the article on which I am working Draft:The_Smile_Machine I posted two photographs that were contested. One was thought to be taken from a newspaper (but was actually of my own creation) and the other was a photograph. The person who denounced me wouldn't believe that I had actually made the one image (he or she wrote that it was "obviously copied form a newspaper") because, I can only imagine, it was "dot screened" like in old newspapers...but in 1992 I had had the image dot-screened because I found dot-screened images made better copies. I was told that I needed to supply proof for both so I did so by sending photos to the wiki permissions page: I then took a series of photos of myself with the original of the other contested photograph and sent it in. I wrote to the photographer of the other photo, received a scanned permission note and sent it to the wiki permissions page along with her email so it could be verified in case of further doubt. I have received no responses from wiki permissions and also have found that I can no longer upload photos to the page... I find this to be frustrating because I have played by the rules. I am working hard to make the article as good as I can and I feel as if I have no recourse when unjustly accused. I would be happy to supply all the proof again if someone would be so kind as to respond to me. Thank you,Dickturner (talk) 22:04, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

I fixed the link. John from Idegon (talk) 23:45, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The file you uploaded was an advertisement in The Village Voice November 1992. If you are the copyright holder please see WP:DCM. Septrillion (talk) 00:02, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, I feel like I can never quite explain the situation. That advertisement was made by me then sent to the Village Voice - they had nothing to do with it except they printed it. They did not create it, I did. In addition, the image I published wasn't from the Village Voice, it was the original artwork that I made. It was not a copy from the Village Voice but a copy of the ad, itself. I sent a permission note to Permissions saying all that.
 * I sincerely appreciate the fact that is it still on the page, thank you !
 * NOW...the photo of the guy wearing a Smile Machine : I got permission from the photographer and sent it to Permissions-wiki.... she is completely ok that is is on the page, she signed, scanned and sent a note to that effect... Please give me the right to post photos again, I have never posted an illegal photo on the page ! Anyway, thank you ! Dickturner (talk) 00:36, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It says on both photos, "An email containing details of the permission for this file has been sent in accordance with Commons:OTRS." OTRS has received your email. You do not appear to be blocked on commons. Even if you are, I have no authority to unblock you. Septrillion (talk) 01:01, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, Thank you very much for your response! One last question: If they received and accepted the permission note from Dona Ann McAdams (the photographer) why was the photo taken down and not restored? (The photo of the guy wearing the Smile Machine...it has dissappeared)Dickturner (talk) 09:30, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Have you contacted OTRS about that one? Septrillion (talk) 16:22, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, Yes I wrote them twice, first about a week after I received the notification that the photo was in need of permission (it took me a week to get in touch with the photographer) and then two days ago. But it seems like my page has been moved into some sort of limbo, there is a message at the top of the page saying it is not under review...I'll just wait to see what happens. I appreciate your getting back to me. Dickturner (talk) 16:30, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Have you tried re-uploading? Septrillion (talk) 23:08, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, no I haven't ! I will. I didn't want to appear pushy... I thought that the photo would be restored once the note was received. I will try. Thanks and have a nice day !Dickturner (talk) 09:52, 7 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello again, I think I discovered the source of my error. I didn't realize that I had to put it on the commons page and then upload the link. I just did this and it seems to have worked. Thank you.Dickturner (talk) 10:28, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Verification templates
How to remove that verificationtemple... Sonu Sinha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realsonuonline (talk • contribs) 08:45, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * - the verification template is placed on any article which has a lack of citations from reliable sources. The way to remove said template is to add such sources to the article to support claims made within. Hope this helps, Stormy clouds (talk) 10:36, 7 May 2018 (UTC).
 * Realsonuonline has replaced writers' names in several movie articles with "Sonu Sinha" and has been reverted each time. And cautioned about risking being blocked. David notMD (talk) 10:39, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Checks out. Thanks, . *Dear - don't bother seeking constructive help if your sole intention here is to make unconstructive edits. Stop. Regards, Stormy clouds (talk) 10:58, 7 May 2018 (UTC).

Article Wizard
A grey line is there and i cannot press next in the second page. Kpgjhpjm (talk) 02:35, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you send a screen shot? Septrillion (talk) 03:16, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No I cannot send it.(Kpgjhpjm (talk) 04:04, 7 May 2018 (UTC))
 * Why not? A screen shot would make it easier for me to upload the file. Post a screen shot to imgur then post the link here. Septrillion (talk) 04:30, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It appears your issue is with the "Next" button at Article wizard/Referencing. It links to Article wizard/CommonMistakes. The text "For further information, please visit our guide on notability" also overlapped the button for me at some zoom levels and window sizes. I have removed float from the text so the problem has disappeared for me. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:04, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

How to create an article?
Hi .. Please help on how to create an article regarding the history of a company? Explain me the rules of Wikipedia. My article gets deleted in a day or two.
 * - this issue has been explained thoroughly on your talk page, where your draft underwent speedy deletion. As I am not an administrator, I cannot view the deleted content, but there must have been clear evidence to lead to remove your draft twice, and for  to suggest that you have an undeclared conflict of interest. This issue must be resolved if you seek to create an article about the company, especially if you have a working relationship with the firm in question. Moreover, an article should center on the company as a whole, not just their history. Hope this helps, Stormy clouds (talk) 11:05, 7 May 2018 (UTC).

Wikipedia Image Usage
I am new to this, so sorry if that is a stupid question: I would like to use this particular Image: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/9/9a/20100225074214%21MIP_technique_timothy.png in a modified version in my Thesis. In my understanding this image is free to use as long as i cite it correctly? What would be the correct way to do this? Thanks for you help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pommenroy (talk • contribs) 10:37, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Pommenroy, welcome to the Teahouse. The image has license information at File:MIP technique timothy.png. You can choose between two licenses. The GNU Free Documentation License requires a copy of a long license text so I suggest Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 where you only have to link the license text. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:11, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * If you go with the recommended Creative Commons license,, here is a handy page: Best practices for attribution. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 13:58, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

DRAFT
what is the draft of articles and how to do it?.Kpgjhpjm (talk) 11:40, 7 May 2018 (UTC) Kpgjhpjm (talk) 11:40, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * See Drafts. Septrillion (talk) 13:47, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello again, . A Draft is the word we give to an article that is being prepared, but is not yet ready to go into the main part of Wikipedia. It's where you should work on an article until you're happy with it. That way, you avoid a lot of disappointment which happens a lot when people try to start an article from nothing, and it looks terrible, so is likely to get deleted. (Every article needs to be on a subject that meets our Notabilty criteria, and is based on Reliable Sources). These are independent references that demonstrate that what you are writing is correct and accurate. Once you've worked on the draft and are happy with it, you can submit it to Articles for Creation, and you'll get helpful feedback if it's still not yet ready. I think you should spend some time reading one or two of our essential help pages, so do please look at Drafts to learn more. You'll see that the page includes a box where you can type the name of a new topic and create a draft. You can work on a draft for as long as you like, although if you don't touch it for six months it is very likely to get deleted. Do also have a read of Your First Article, which is also very informative. Regards from a hot and sunny UK. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:03, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hello everyone! I was wondering if anybody knew a good vandalism detector program that works on mac OSX. i already tried using Huggle, but had issues with that program. Thanks!Lightningboltz03 (talk) 14:17, 7 May 2018 (UTC)Lightningboltz03 5/7/18
 * You do not have WP:ROLLBACK rights, and therefore cannot use Huggle here. I would try WP:TWINKLE for a while, until you're experienced enough to gain rollback rights. Septrillion (talk) 14:23, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Creating an article for JumondR Rondaii
Hello I’m Chat Randy,

I need help creating an article for this Rapper JumondR Rondaii any advise or help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChatRandy (talk • contribs) 14:50, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello I need help writing this article for a famous rapper JumondR Rondaii he is known but does not have an article on Wikipedia yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChatRandy (talk • contribs) 14:52, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * As soon as your draft is finished, click the button that says "submit your draft for review". Septrillion (talk) 15:11, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

ARADA on WIKIPEDIA
Hello Editors,

I need your help, submitting a revised version of an entry that was rejected for lack of notability (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:ARADA), the page I'm trying to create is for a high profile property developer in Sharjah (UAE). Below is a revised version of the listing that was declined. Will this now pass? Any support on how to make it even better is highly appreciated... thanks

ARADA is a privately held property development company, based in the United Arab Emirates, with an initial focus on the emirate of Sharjah (https://www.reuters.com/article/emirates-realestate-loans/uae-property-developer-secures-1-bln-dirham-loan-for-mega-project-idUSL8N1OS16X). The company was founded in December 2016 by Sheikh Sultan bin Ahmed Al Qasimi, chairman of Basma Group, and Prince Khaled bin Alwaleed bin Talal Alsaud, chairman of KBW Investments (https://www.thenational.ae/business/property/new-developer-arada-targets-uae-s-mid-market-housing-sector-1.89111).

Projects

Nasma Residences

Launched in March 2017, Nasma Residences is an 800-unit villa and townhouse community in the Al Tay suburb of Sharjah (http://gulfnews.com/business/property/new-developer-gets-cracking-with-residential-community-in-sharjah-1.1993253). The project is scheduled to be completed by the end of 2019 (http://www.constructionweekonline.com/article-44167-uae-408m-nasma-residences-to-complete-in-2019/).

Aljada

Launched in September 2017 with a sales value of AED24 billion ($6.5 billion), Aljada is a mixed-use development spread over a 24 million square foot area in the Muwaileh suburb of Sharjah (https://www.thenational.ae/business/property/uae-developer-to-build-biggest-ever-real-estate-project-in-sharjah-1.626020). Aljada features residential districts, a business park, retail and hospitality segments as well as a Central Hub, designed by Zaha Hadid, which ARADA has said will be a new entertainment and leisure destination for the United Arab Emirates (https://gulfnews.com/business/property/sharjah-developer-awards-contract-to-late-zaha-hadid-s-firm-1.2183993). Work on Aljada began in the first quarter of 2018, with the entire project scheduled for completion in 2025 (https://www.reuters.com/article/emirates-realestate-sharjah/uae-property-developer-launches-6-5-bln-sharjah-project-idUSL5N1LS3R3). In December 2017, ARADA secured AED1 billion in Islamic financing from two banks in the United Arab Emirates to help fund the development of Aljada (https://www.reuters.com/article/emirates-realestate-loans/uae-property-developer-secures-1-bln-dirham-loan-for-mega-project-idUSL8N1OS16X). In April 2018, ARADA signed a deal with Emaar Hospitality Group to open three hotels in Aljada (https://www.reuters.com/article/brief-emaar-hospitality-group-and-arada/brief-emaar-hospitality-group-and-arada-join-hands-to-launch-three-hotels-in-sharjah-idUSFWN1RP0LN).

Anantara Sharjah Resort In December 2017, ARADA announced that it would open Sharjah’s first Anantara hotel in conjunction with Basma Group. The Anantara Sharjah Resort, which is scheduled to open in mid-2020, will have 233 rooms (http://www.hoteliermiddleeast.com/32442-minor-hotels-to-launch-first-anantara-resort-in-sharjah).

Facts: -	Type: Privately held property development company -	Founded: 2016 -	Key people: Sheikh Sultan bin Ahmed Al Qasimi (chairman), Prince Khaled bin Alwaleed bin Talal Alsaud, (vice chairman), Ahmed AlKhoshaibi (CEO) -	Number of employees (2018): 200 -	Products: Real Estate -	Headquarters: Sharjah, United Arab Emirates -	Website: www.arada.com

External Links: www.arada.com www.aljada.com www.nasmaresidences.com

— Preceding unsigned comment added by OmarKattan (talk • contribs) 14:21, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You should edit the draft, taking into account the reason for the previous rejection, and resubmit it. You can resubmit a draft that was rejected after having corrected the problems the reviewer identified. Seraphimblade Talk to me 14:26, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Add your changes to Draft:ARADA and click the blue button that says "Resubmit". Then it will be looked at by another reviewer. Septrillion (talk) 14:28, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * If Arada is your client, you must disclose this as part of Wikipedia's paid editing disclosure rules. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:18, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Adell entry
Hello,

I received feedback that the following entry is not recommended for Wikipedia because of notability policies. Can anyone provide any further detail? This person is very successful in the metro-Detroit / Michigan area. Is it because they are not well known nationally? Please advise; thank you:

Gantman1 (talk) 14:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)Gantman1
 * Entry is at User:Gantman1/sandbox/Kevin Adell Profile now. 331dot (talk) 14:03, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The individual you are attempting to write about does not seem to meet the notability guidelines at WP:BIO. The sources you have offered are not independent reliable sources as well, and do not seem to have in depth coverage of this person.  Wikipedia is only interested in what independent reliable sources state about an article subject. Thank you for declaring as a paid editor, but Wikipedia is not for merely telling about people; they must be shown to be notable. 331dot (talk) 14:12, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I would add that your use of "profile" suggests to me that you have a common misunderstanding as to what Wikipedia is, it is an encyclopedia and not social media. 331dot (talk) 14:13, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback!

Sincerely,

Gantman1 (talk) 16:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC)Gantman1

DataMelt
(No idea whether this is an appropriate place to ask this, sorry if not)

I've just come across this page and I thought it would be good to discuss it with other people, as it could do with some outside help, but I still feel a little inexperienced on WikiPedia at the moment.

One editor put a COI tag on it a while ago, but the tag has been repeatedly deleted. It also seems to me like a lot of edits from several user accounts and IPs have been very closely affiliated to the people who developed the software, as they've all made edits pretty much exclusively about this article.

One question I have is when/whether a COI should be pointed out on a page, or if it really matters if the page (as in this case) doesn't seem to be written in an obiously biased way?

Another issue I have is that, from looking online, I'm still not sure whether this software is notable enough for a WikiPedia article: I can't find many papers published using it for instance, which is my idea of 'impact' for something like this, nor can I find any other articles etc on it, but I'm still hesitant to recommend it for deletion as data science is not my area of expertise.

I thought it was an interesting case to discuss, but again, sorry if this is an odd thing to bring up here, or if this post is a little rambling! BubbleEngineer (talk) 00:30, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * - the article certainly is promotional in tone, and the tag at present is justified. Given that the article was created by a single-purpose account, and reads to a certain degree like an advertisement for a new product, I can understand why the tag was applied. The heavy editing by IP's is also unnerving, particularly as many tags have been removed without justification. It is worth noting that the following IP addresses (104.55.212.99, 172.58.140.29, 2600:1700:8100:7F90:1017:DEED:967D:7169, 130.202.8.79) are all based in Chicago, and are all single-purpose editors, which is off-putting, and suggestive of a COI violation. In terms of notability, there are citations in the article, but not really enough to fully demonstrate that the product passes the general notability guideline, at least in my view, given the fact that there are large blocks of wholly unsourced content. The place to determine whether or not it should have an article is at Articles for Deletion, if that is an avenue which you wish to pursue. Stormy clouds (talk) 10:49, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I think this is the sort of thing where other opinions are always useful; I'm still trying to get experience with WP at the moment but I don't want to start barging into stuff I don't know much about. BubbleEngineer (talk) 16:22, 7 May 2018 (UTC)