Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 780

Harvard citation style
Good afternoon and thank you for inviting me to this forum.

I understand that additions to article content require verification by good secondary sources. I had something to add to Aristagoras and I saw that the article makes extensive use of the Harvard citation style (author preceding date and page numbers). I worked out how to present my source using the style and it looks okay. I realised that the same information would be useful at Ionian Revolt and used the same Harvard citation there, but then I saw that the style was not previously used in this article. It is instead done very simply as, for example, "Holland, p. 377." I see that many citations are done using cite web or cite book templates, etc. but others are simple statements only without a template and I have seen what I believe are called bare URLs.

Can you give me some advice, please, as to how I should proceed both with citations I am introducing and with improving existing ones?

Regards, Izzat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Izzat Kutebar (talk • contribs) 10:28, 31 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi the basic rule is that the style of referencing should be consistent within each article. So if most of the references are Harvard style then ideally all of the rest should be changed to Harvard too, or whatever style is dominant in the article. Short footnotes such as "Holland, p. 377" are really useful if various pages of a given source are cited multiple times, as it helps to reduce the "code clutter" in an article. See the Referencing for beginners guide for the basics, and follow links for more detail when you need it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:43, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Good morning, . You have been very helpful. I shall read WP:REFB and come back if I don't understand anything. Thank you, Roger. Izzat Kutebar (talk) 04:34, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. On this matter do read WP:CITEVAR. If an article already has a consistent citation style that provides all the needed bibliographic information about each cited source, you should normally follow it. If most sources are cited in a consistent style, but a few are incomplete, or are bare URLs, it is helpful to fill in the missing information and make them consistent with the other citations in the article. If an article has no citations, or a widely varying mix of citation styles, or consistently uses bare urls or just URL+title, without other bibliographic data, then you may, if you choose, convert any existing citations to a consistent style that does provide complete information, whether you choose Harvard style, shortened footnotes,  tags with citation templates, or some other style.  The goal is to have a consistent style for an article that provides all the needed information to the reader. Which style is used doesn't matter so much, and it is usually a poor idea to spend time and effort changing from one consistent style to another, and pretty much always a bad idea to fight back and forth over which style to use. In a new draft or article, you may choose any consistent style that you like, provided that the needed information is made available. I personally like ref tags with CS1 citation templates, but that is just me. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 16:47, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, and please,, remember to sign all posts to talk pages and discussion pages such as this with four tildes . The wiki software will convert this intoi a link to your user name (or your custom signature if you set one in the preferces) and a timestamp. This is very helpful for others. Thank you. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 16:52, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Good morning, . You also have been very helpful. I see now how the tildes work and it certainly is useful to format a signature that way, enabling response via a link. I will read WP:CITEVAR. I'm thinking that in principle it will comply with the date variations guide that I've already seen. That seems to be the sensible approach. I do think a citation should be informative and not just a bare link or a brief mention of a book title. This gives me what I need to move forward. I think I've worked out how to use the citation template but only by copying from existing ones, admittedly. No doubt it will become second nature with use. Thank you very much for your help. Izzat Kutebar (talk) 04:34, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Improving my Wikipedia
Hi everybody! I try to improve Wikipedia overall in the best way possible, doing various tasks. Some of the most common are creating/expanding articles related to me, participating in community discussions, reverting vandalism, and patrolling Special:NewPagesFeed. I am familiar with wiki-text, so that's something I can definitely help out with, but some Wikipedia-exclusive templates I may not be as familiar with. Oh, and I love to edit wikis! like uploading my pics, updating my bio that's what is difficult to me at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadam Hussaini Nuhu (talk • contribs) 11:02, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Please remember that messages on talk pages, or discussions such as this one, need a signature. If Draft:Sadam Hussaini Nuhu was an attempt to write about yourself, please read the guidance against autobiography. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:07, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Please some one can help me in adding mine college information in wikepedia.
Please some one can help me in adding mine college information in wikepedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sscmrmbathane (talk • contribs) 11:25, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The page you wrote,, User:Sscmrmbathane/sandbox, had several problems.


 * 1) Don't copy material from elsewhere as that's a copyright infringement
 * 2) Everything you write should be cited to reliable sources
 * 3) Write in neutral tone – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 11:34, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome . I had to delete your sandbox as copyrighted content cannot be permitted.  I would add to what Finnusertop said in that if you represent this college, you need to read about conflict of interest at WP:COI and, if you are an employee of the college, read about paid editing at WP:PAID(that is required by Wikipedia's Terms of Use if you are a paid editor).  You will need to make the appropriate declarations if either is the case.
 * Please understand that Wikipedia is not social media or other forum to merely tell about a subject(such as a college). Doing so is considered promotional on Wikipedia.  Wikipedia has no interest in what an article subject wants to say about itself.  Wikipedia is only interested in what independent reliable sources state about it.  If you indeed represent this college, to be successful in writing about it here you would need to forget everything you know about it and only write based on what independent sources state.  You should not use the college website, interviews with staff, or any other primary source to establish notability. 331dot (talk) 11:41, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

roll over pop ups
There was a link at the bottom of a page to turn off roll over pop ups. I do not see that link any more. How can I turn off roll over pop ups? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beatles777! (talk • contribs) 10:46, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . I believe that the setting for that option is available under the "Reading preferences" heading at Special:Preferences. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:55, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * "Navigation popups" in Special:Preferences. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:58, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, that looks more familiar. The setting I linked to is for a similar, but different feature. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:50, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

How do I add a picture to my user page
I waa creating my user page and wanted to add a picture — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erfson (talk • contribs) 07:13, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. You would need to upload any such picture to Wikimedia Commons, using the upload wizard. That means the picture must be (or be placed) under a free license. This is easiest if you took the picture yourself -- then you can simply mark it as "own work" and release it. Or you can choose any of the many many pictures already available on commons.
 * Once you have uploaded or selected an image on commons, place it on your user page with markup like  Replace "image.jpg" with the exact name of the picture file. See WP:ALT and WP:CAPTION for what should go into alt text and caption, respectively. Further details can be found at Help:Visual file markup. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 12:19, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I have an image of myself on my user page, User:DESiegel. Feel free to look at the markup there as an example. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 12:19, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Name suffixes in CS1 templates
What is the recommended way to handle name suffixes such as "III" in CS1 templates? Should I add the suffix to the last name by formatting "A. D. Baker III" as  or should I avoid the problem by using  ? —Gazoth (talk) 07:04, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.
 * The documentation at Template:Cite book indicates that the suffix should be appended to the first name with a comma. If this is done consistently, the translation to Wikidata will be smooth. Using your example: . Will be rendered to look like  . It should work the same way for all of the citation templates. Hope this helps.  — jmcgnh (talk)  (contribs) 08:31, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I missed that while reading the documentation. —Gazoth (talk) 12:26, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Tom Bradby
PLEASE PLEASE can you tell me what has happened to Tom Bradby. He hasn't read the news for weeks and weeks and he is so missed. Just wondered if he had given it up, or worried he may be unwell. Thank you so much for your help.

Jean Madgwick — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.218.202 (talk) 12:55, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:27, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * According to The Sun he's dealing with insomnia.. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:57, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

news
Hello. Journalism should be able to hold power to account but there are few (if any) independent print/word-based outlets. Could there be a Wikinews? Here journalists could post their writing outwith the constraints of a paymaster. I have no idea how to start this and realise it is full of challenges. Not least of which would be the need for journalists to earn a living doing their job, editorial/moderator involvement and reply/follow-on/comments. Is this viable? Is there anyone with whom I could discuss this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.82.206.31 (talk) 16:23, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


 * You ask "Could there be a Wikinews?". Indeed there could, see Wikinews. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:27, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, Wikinews is not really a successful project. Wikipedia is the #5 most popular website in the world. Wikinews is ranked #58,359. It is not a viable news source. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  04:13, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello SineBot, Hello Biddulph, Hello Cullen328. Interesting topic. Yesterday I did some research on Blasting News and I wrote a page which is now in draft. Somehow I think Blasting News is similar to what you are imagining, a kind of WikiNews. Can you please be more specific so that I can understand more? It is a very interesting topic indeed. Thanks! --Mnfndr (talk) 16:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Odd page selected for my edit tutorial AND how/who flags articles?
I created an account today (last night). My edit tutorial page was British International School Hanoi. It appears to be an advertisement. The vast majority of citations go to the school's website itself, several other Nord Anglia Education websites, press releases and pages that let Nord Anglia promote itself.

My understanding is that those types of shenanigans are not allowed. Who does the flagging? If it's any user, how is it done? LordFishbottom (talk) 18:13, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi . Like (almost) everything on Wikipedia, anybody can add cleanup tags to articles. You can do so yourself by copy-and-pasting any of the template codes listed on that page or, to speed things up, enable Twinkle in your settings.
 * Tagging is probably the least useful thing you can do, however. All it does is flag an issue that, in all likelihood, nobody will ever address. If you can, it's far better to try and deal with the problem yourself: either by improving the article or, if it's irredeemable, nominating it for deletion.
 * (I wouldn't actually recommend nominating British International School Hanoi for deletion. Articles about schools are rarely deleted, regardless of how poor a state they're in. Feel free to remove anything that isn't cited to an independent, reliable source, though.) –&#8239;Joe (talk) 18:26, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Creating a Company Wikipedia Page without sources
Hello,

I have been tasked with creating a Wikipedia page for a company I recently began working for. The process for creating a Wikipedia page is very difficult, and even more so for this company in particular because there are no sources online or print that reference or talk about the company. What do you suggest I do in this case? The company has a website and has been around for over 25 years providing professional education services. I believe it is very credible but not sure how to get around the part of providing references. Please recommend ways the company could get published by unbiased sources as well. The company does post a lot of press releases but I don't think that would work as it's paid for by the company. Please help!

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PMDahl2017 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse. The very simple answer is: you can't. We only cover topics that are "notable", and notability is attained by being covered in-depth in independent, reliable sources. There is no getting around this requirement. It's what makes us a general purpose encyclopedia instead of, say, a business directory. You are right about the press releases; they would not contribute to notability precisely because they aren't independent. I'm afraid you'll have to look for alternative outlets that specialize in publishing business pages with materials submitted from the company. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:54, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, Welcome to Teahouse! Please check out these FAQ here. In short, you'll have to prove it's notability in encyclopedic citations, disclose your professional relation/paid contributions to the article, and in such cases, it's preferred if you make a proposal rathern directly create it yourself. Shushugah (talk) 20:57, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * has already made the appropriate declaration (thanks for doing that, PMDahl2017). Cordless Larry (talk) 21:10, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

How to delete an image on WikiCommons
I uploaded this, with the incorrect licensing. I made sure the image is not used on any pages, and would be happy to have it removed ASAP. It already has a proposal to be deleted, but I'd be happy to delete it immediately. I see I can add a speedy request for deletion, but is there any way I can do it myself or is this a permission issue as a new editor? Shushugah (talk) 20:29, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. Only those who hold the "admin" right on commons (which is different from being an admin on en.wikipedia) can actually delete content there. I see that image is being discussed at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Johann kremenezky.jpg. You could post there explaining the situation, or post a speedy deletion request on the image page itself, or both. Probably it will wind up deleted fairly shortly if you do that. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 21:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

3RR application to potential vandalism?
Hi, I was wondering if the policy of 3RR applies to potential vandalism? I have noticed that 2600:100D:B029:562D:EC70:67F8:C90E:2890 has been adding some unsourced information to Joe Walsh (Illinois politician), but I have reached my 3 undos for this page and am unable to undo more changes. Is it alright for me to perform more than three reverts, or should I enlist the help of someone else to undo these changes? Thanks, Hickland (talk) 01:22, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, Welcome to Teahouse. An editor is exempted from violation of WP:3RR rule when the edit is performed to revert a vandalized edit. It could also could perform if the edit violate the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy that contain libelous, contentious material. However, do note that what deems as exempt under BLP can be controversial, for such do consider to make a report to BLP noticeboard instead of relying on this exemption. Thank you.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:09, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, CASSIOPEIA! I will report to the BLP noticeboard the next time I see some issues :) Hickland (talk) 02:24, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello again, I think I've seen you at the Teahouse before.
 * One thing to take note of: vandalism is not the same as a good faith content dispute. Adding unsourced information, repeatedly, is definitely classed as disruptive editing, and may eventually lead to a block if repeated, but it sometimes has to be handled respectfully as a content dispute and not dismissed as blatant vandalism.
 * What you have here, now that I've looked at the edits, are POV attack edits on a BLP page and should be taken to WP:BLPN. Material that must be removed because of BLP violations is exempt from 3RR, but the BLPN report should get the violator blocked.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 02:30, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Following up,, another option we should have mentioned is page protection. If a page has been repeatedly vandalized, you can request that it be temporarily protected at WP:RPP (Request page protection). The Joe Walsh page has now been protected for 1 week, and this anonymous vandal won't be able to edit the page. Our hope is that they get a clue and stop making trouble, here and elsewhere.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 21:36, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Copyright question
Hello,

I've received a notification from Wikipedia saying that an image I sourced from a public library will be deleted if I don't provide adequate copyright details, but I'm not sure how to do this.

I've put it in a so far unreviewed article on James Waltham Curtis.

These links show the image has already been put online by the public library, and the library catalogue details states that it's out of copyright...so what should I do please?

Lindsark (talk) 16:14, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * http://handle.slv.vic.gov.au/10381/40118
 * https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/falls-of-wannon/zAFI2KvHXUhT_g
 * link

✅
 * Hello, and welcome to the Teahosue. In this series of edits I added the required license tags. In future, please be sure that an appropriate tag from File copyright tags or (more likely) one of the pages linked from there is included on any uploaded image. If you aren't sure which tag to use, ask for help here or on the help desk or from any experienced editor. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 17:55, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Even after 10+ years here I wouldn't know how to copyright-tag images manually. If you want to upload more images, I would suggest going to Commons and using the upload wizard (just click "Upload a file" on the sidebar). That guides you through creating a properly formatted description step by step. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 18:30, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * That is fine, indeed the best way, when uploading a new image. But if one is already present without the proper tag, one should learn how to correct it. In this case thr was a template present whoch said:
 * "This file does not have information on its copyright and licensing status. Unless the copyright and licensing status is provided, the file will be deleted after . Please remove this template if a correct copyright license tag has been added."
 * All one had to do is follow the helpful link to File copyright tags, realize that an image that is long out of copyright is in the public domain, and so follow another link to File copyright tags/Public domain, and read down the list of licnese tags and descriptions, and note that each of the following applies to this case:
 * PD-old: for images where the author died more than 100 years ago (currently in 1917 or earlier).
 * PD-US-1923-abroad: for images first published outside of the U.S. before 1923.
 * and copy  and   into the file description page. Not really all that hard. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 21:48, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

In the Folk rock article,
in the Folk revival section, in the second paragraph there is a red “Template:Svn” that should not be there, but that I don’t know how to get rid of. Perhaps someone with a better grasp of this stuff than me could fix it? Thanks, Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 18:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * ✅ There's no template called svn. I imagine it was supposed to be sfn. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 18:34, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Carptrash (talk) 22:28, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Creating a new page and getting over the hurdle
I have been working on a page for an artist named Zbigniew Blazeje. I have what I think are plenty of references which include national newspapers like the Globe and Mail and The Toronto Star, including articles on exhibits. One of his most well known works an installation with moving sculpture and sound went to 10 major art galleries as well as Expo 67. He was represented by a major Canadian dealer, Isaacs Gallery. There are also references to him in Arts Canada (aka Canadian Art) and Artforum. There are 11 references so far. Can anyone give me advice as how to improve my article and to move from sandbox to public display. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielkernohan (talk • contribs) 18:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Courtesy link: User:Danielkernohan/sandbox
 * You don't wanna put references in the headers like you did for Exhibitions. For the list in that same section, use bullet points * instead of a space before the text. A couple of the sections aren't full sentences which should be addressed, and they're unreferenced. You're gonna wanna use the footnote more often as it's easier, since you need to connect a section of text with the specific reference(s) you got it from. Also, use the template or derivations for references which'll automatically format the refs for you. Or you could just manually put all the pieces of the references in the correct order and style, whichever you prefer. To create an article, search Zbigniew Blazeje on Wikipedia, and it'll tell you that article doesn't exist and ask if you'd like to create that article (or you can just click on that redlink I made), and then you're all set   User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 01:03, 2 June 2018 (UTC)


 * , you have the article in your sandbox, User:Danielkernohan/sandbox and Draft:Zbigniew Blazeje. It looks like you've abandoned Draft:Zbigniew Blazeje and continued to work on your sandbox. You might want to work on the Draft article instead. My take is that Blazeje is notable, meets both WP:GNG and WP:ARTISTS and I'd be happy to accept the article and vigorously defend it should anyone nominate it for deletion. I don't care that it is not finished. You have sources, and whatever it lacks in compliance with our manual of style can easily be fixed. Articles for Creation should consider only a few things, and here's how I would do it: Are there any copyright violations? No. Is the article a test, blank or nonsense? No. Is it vandalism or an attack page? No. Is it in English? Yes. Do we already have an article on the subject? No. Is the topic encyclopedic? Yes. Is the subject notable? Yes. Is the article reliably sourced? Yes. Does the article have a neutral point of view? Yes. Are controversies about a living person reliably sourced in-line? Irrelevant, the subject died (not recently), and there are no controversies anyway. It should have been accepted. Vexations (talk) 01:38, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

User:2023zhanl38
What should we do with this? Page? Thegooduser  Let's Chat   02:09, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Point the user to WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK and WP:USERPAGE. Vexations (talk) 02:37, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Writing an article about my company. Trying to be neutral but it keeps getting deleted.
I have tried twice to write an article for my company BottleKeeper. I have tried to write it in a neutral way. Any suggestions on how to do this better? Pasting it below for reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mstenbakken (talk • contribs) 23:46, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

BottleKeeper® is a El Segundo, California based manufacturer and seller of beer bottle insulators and related accessories, with additional offices in Phoenix, Arizona.

BottleKeeper® was created by cousins Matt Campbell and Adam Callinan while relaxing at a beach drinking a beer from a red plastic cup on a warm summer day, which were not keeping their beer contents satisfactorily cold. Thinking that there must be a better way, Matt came up with the concept that would become the BottleKeeper®. Matt then created a prototype, filed for a provisional patent and they launched a crowdfunding campaign on Fundable.com in Aug 2013 to prove the concept. By 2018 BottleKeeper was selling 2.5 BottleKeeper® units per minute with a revenue run rate of $15 million.

BottleKeeper®'s first and primary product is the BottleKeeper®. The BottleKeeper® is a neoprene insulated, three-piece stainless steel container that allows the user to insert a beer bottle into the container via the bottom of the bottle, which unscrews and is removable. The included cap also twists on and off to allow the user to seal an inserted bottle again after opening. The stainless steel, neoprene and padded base insulate the beer to keep it colder for a longer period of time, while also providing shock protection to keep the bottle from breaking in a spill or fall. In September, 2017, BottleKeeper launched the BottleKeeper 2.0 which added a built in bottle opener, tether and powder coated paint.

CamCal Enterprises, LLC, parent company of BottleKeeper®, has been awarded multiple US utility patents for protective bottle enclosures:

US Patent 9505527 US Patent 9637370


 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.  In short, you should not write about your company here.  You seem to have a common misconception as to what Wikipedia is.  It is not social media for companies to write about themselves or merely tell the world about themselves or their products.  Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, where article subjects must be shown with independent reliable sources to meet the relevant notability guidelines, in this case WP:ORG, those for businesses. As such, Wikipedia has no interest in what a company wants to say about itself, or how it wants to be portrayed. Wikipedia is only interested in what uninvolved third parties have decided to write about companies with in depth coverage.  Primary sources like the company website, interviews with company staff, patent listings, or any materials from the company itself do not establish notability. I understand that you probably think your company is notable, and that Wikipedia ranks highly in search results, but Wikipedia has no interest in the online presence of your company, and what you consider notable is not necessarily what Wikipedia considers notable.
 * You have what Wikipedia calls a conflict of interest in editing about your company. Please review that link, and also the paid editing policy(since I assume that you derive income from your company). Again, you really should not edit about your company; if it becomes sufficiently notable, others not associated with your company will take note of it and choose to write about it. Unless independent sources have given your company in depth coverage, it will not be possible for there to be an article about it here at this time. One product review, the company website, and the crowdfunder do not establish notability. I'm sorry that this is a lot of information and it probably is not what you want to hear, but I must be honest with you. 331dot (talk) 23:58, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, . I agree 100% with . Your draft article is an advertisement, not a legitimate encyclopedia article. We do not allow advertising on Wikipedia. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  00:09, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

After a google search, I think BottleKeeper is not notable. Comfr (talk) 03:55, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Unauthorized image
Hi, I hate to be a whistleblower but this is concerning me so I need advice. I've been working on Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907 and recently an editor has uploaded an image (PR-GTD at GIG.jpg) into the infobox which, whilst being fully suitable for the requirements, does not appear to have been uploaded through Wikimedia Commons using the correct process. When asked, the editor simply replies "I emailed the owner and he gave me permission." Please refer to. I've checked the Gol 1907 category in WC and I'm pretty sure it's not there in the repository and I suspect the permission has not been logged through the correct channels. Any advice would be very welcome thanks. Rodney Baggins (talk) 05:24, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . You are 100% correct to be concerned about this issue. But you will have to pursue the matter at Wikimedia Commons. Although it is a sister project, it is a separate project with its own administrators. We can't do anything about it here. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  05:36, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * OK thanks, I will do that. Rodney Baggins (talk) 05:39, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Feedback
Hey team!!

Never saw this page until a link was recently sent to me by one of the editors.

I was wondering if you could please help give advice, one of the other editors gave guidance before and I worked on it, but clearly still need a bit more amending!! I have submitted the following page John Steven Novak. The comment was it was paid advertising [I'm not getting paid, and I know that John also doesn't get paid through online channels - I know he runs via referrals only in his line of work]. Just for context, I met John at function for the organisation I sponsor and had a following conversation that was very inspirational which can be listened to on my podcast here = http://www.betterskinbetter.life/004-uncovering-the-secret-sauce-to-achieving-your-goals-with-john-novak. As you’ll see, I’m a writer for my own blog. This is why I put up the COI even though I don’t work for John and had the one interview. Listeners have been contacting me for his profile hence the wiki. I put this in the COL not sure if it comes up though.

Ok I'd like to delve into the specific detail - as it's my first wiki I'm keen to get it right and could you point me in the right direction? Can you outline exactly where I've gone wrong and what you think I should do?

Appreciate your feedback.

Rebecca Rebecca J Mason (talk) 01:44, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Convenience link: Draft:John Steven Novak. Maproom (talk) 07:48, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * That draft needs more than "a bit more amending". If I had the task of creating a Wikipedia article on Novak, I would discard all that you have written and begin again. You have provided more than 50 references, but few of them (maybe none, I haven't checked them all) are to the reliable independent published sources that Wikipedia requires. Your first step should be to go through those references, discarding all those that are not reliable, all those that are not independent, and all those that do not have significant discussion of him. That includes books written by him, and articles based on what he has said or what his colleagues and associates have said about him. If you end up with three or more acceptable sources, rewrite the draft based only on what those sources say. Maproom (talk) 08:07, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Links to other Wikis
I am interested in Art Nouveau. I have found several articles that have a "page does not exist" flag attached to a reference.

However a page often does exist but on the French Wiki or others. Can that link be added? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexbotkin (talk • contribs) 06:44, 2 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes,, it is both technically possible, and allowed, to add Wikilinks to articles in other language Wikipedias when there isn't a suitable English article. But an article in a foreign language will not be very useful to many readers, so it is helpful to mark it as a foreign language. I recommend using the template ill, which will link to a foreign article and label the link with the language; but if an English article is then created with the same name, it will silently link to that instead. See WP:ILL for more information. --ColinFine (talk) 09:56, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

30/500 policy
It seems right on the heels of my previous question, I've also another:

Regarding the 30/500 rule of the extendedconfirmed status, is the 500-edit-requirement global or per-project? The reason for asking is that ATM my global edit count is (just) over 500, but my highest project-specific one is <500, and I still don't have the extendedconfirmed access.

And a related supplementary: if the edit count is project-specific, is the status also? In other words, once I become extendedconfirmed for one project, does that give me the access for all projects, or only that one?

Thanks, DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:54, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi DoubleGrazing. The requirement is per wiki, e.g. the English Wikipedia, and only gives the right at that wiki. extendedconfirmed only exists at a few wikis. Wikipedia with all languages together is called one project so "project" is the wrong term here. You don't get extendedconfirmed at other Wikipedia languages if you have it at the English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:42, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying that, PrimeHunter, and apologies for wrong use of the terminology, still learning the ropes after ten years... :) Cheers, DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:52, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikilinks: links with plurals?
Hi All — I can't seem to find the answer to this (probably not looking in the right place) so thought I'd ask those in the know...

When I create a wikilink where the linked word is in plural, but the article name is in singular, what's the best practice? I know that creating a link with animals gets to the right article (Animal) via a redirect, but is that optimal? Should I instead write out the link fully as (square brackets) animal | animals (square brackets)? Or is there some pipe trick etc. to be employed here?

TIA — DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:27, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The convention is to put the correct name of the linked article inside the square brackets and then append the 's' outside the brackets. Example:

animals
 * You will find that the whole word including the 's' is underlined so the link appears to apply to the plural word.
 * Rodney Baggins (talk) 08:58, 2 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.
 * Simple plurals and other suffixes can be appended to links like  to produce animals. This is the preferred method, since it does not require the redirect to exist. Of course, if the plural requires a spelling change, you can't use this method.
 * When choosing between a redirect and a piped link, it's preferred to use the redirect if that redirect already exists. While it's not hard to create a new redirect, I advise waiting to do that until you have more experience.
 * All of this is covered in MOS:PIPE and MOS:NOPIPE.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 09:13, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks both for your helpful answers, Rodney Baggins & — jmcgnh . As expected, it was of course all explained somewhere, I just should have looked more thoroughly. :) DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:57, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Information about a writer
Dear Teahouse,

How can I write about and present my information about a writer on Wikipedia ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metricon01 (talk • contribs) 11:11, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Metricon01 you can write certain information about yourself as a Wikipedia editor on your user page User:Metricon01 see User pages for more information. If you mean write a new article about a writer then see Your first article and Articles for creation and note they much be notable to have a Wikipedia article about them - see Notability (people). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:03, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Bot
how to make bot in whole wikimedia project (not all of them) because if I make bot account, it can be blocked. So how is this. Khris249talk 11:00, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Khris249 see Bots bots for everything you need to know. This includes a link to Creating a bot which says "Create an account for your bot. Click here when logged in to create the account, linking it to yours. (If you do not create the bot account while logged in, it is likely to be blocked as a possible sockpuppet or unauthorised bot until you verify ownership). See Template:User alternative account for example on how to label the accounts are valid alternative accounts. Make sure you have read Sock puppetry and WP:SOCK first. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:12, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * If you make a bot in some Wikimedia Foundation, it can not.Khris249talk 13:46, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Page view statistics
So recently I enabled page view staistics and almost reached 500 billion views but it was from a page all the way back in 2002 and I made mine in late 2016 or 2017. so now locked out of my phone with no other communication access i cant access the page view stats. Last time I went online with my phone I saw only a handfull. How do i enable it from an xbox360?DOWNTOWNJIzMBROWN26 (talk) 14:58, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi DOWNTOWNJIzMBROWN26, welcome to the Teahouse. I know what page view statistics are but apart from that I don't know what you are referring to with "enabled" or the huge number 500 billion. Maybe Pageview statistics can help. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:09, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Re: Rockin' Rebel
I need clarification on what a Reliable source is.

Okay, Deaths in 2018 lists the death of Rockin' Rebel and there are multiple sources stating the same thing, although I realize all of them may not be WP:RS, why would multiple outlets report the same thing if it weren't true? There seems to be confusion as to what is a reliable source so the page has been protected for administrator editing only, which still, according to the article, has him as alive, yet the entry in Deaths in 2018 remains. So what needs to be cited to satisfy WP:RS, despite multiple reports and if there isn't a verifiable source, then should be be removed from Deaths in 2018? Thanks! Snickers2686 (talk) 15:38, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Snickers2686, the only sources I can find are wrestling sites, the old news site I found this does not name the people. Even though reported on many wrestling sites they could have all copied from one another. If true I'm sure it will be reported in a news site soon, or some other site that is deemed a reliable source. So yes for not removing from Deaths in 2018 would be the correct thing to do. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:51, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I've removed from Deaths in 2018 until it's confirmed and added to Rockin' Rebel. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:55, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * , here's what we know at this point: CBS Philadelphia (a reliable source) reported that a couple in Chester County, PA were found dead.  Police have not released the names of these people or confirmed the cause of death but they did say they are not looking for any other suspects and the public is not in danger.  Facebook and Twitter reports that these two individuals were the former wrestler were picked up by Wrestlingnews.co, which you added to the article.  As explained previously, that site is not a RS, not least because they refuse to say how they linked the events in Chester County to the article subject.  That report was later picked up and repeated by other wrestling blogs and similar web sites but it is still all the same report.  The repetition of a non-reliable source's story does not transform it into a reliable source.  There is still no official identification of the individuals in PA nor official cause of death.  We do not need to race ahead of the sources.  Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:23, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

my Draft:WakingApp
Hi there everyone! I created an article and it was declined... im not sure why because i followed all the guidelines. Is there someone who can help me? maybe I should place links in Hebrew since its an Israeli company? Thanks Mashsegli (talk) 14:44, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * You will need links to reliable independent sources that discuss the subject. I've only checked the first seven, but they all seem to be to articles based on press releases, and so not independent. Maproom (talk) 15:03, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Are you editing as an employee or investor or PR person for WakingApp? If so, please comply immediately with our mandatory Paid editing disclosure. Then, read and study Notability (organizations and companies). I saw that three of your references are to press release hosting site PR Newswire, which is a red flag for reviewers. Press releases contribute nothing to notability, and neither does any coverage generated by press releases, or blog posts, or any coverage by unreliable sources. Remove all of those sources from your draft, along with any content backed by such sources. Hebrew language sources are OK, but only if they are truly independent reliable sources that devote significant coverage to this company. The quality of your sources is much more important than quantity. Far better to have references to five solid reliable sources than 20 mediocre and unacceptable sources. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  17:52, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

I’m about to make a source but how?
I’m just a new editor on Wikipedia and made a new article that will be published soon. But I need help with citing sources? What do I have to type in? Please reply as soom as possible. HorsesARENice'' Ride me to my talk page 17:50, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, welcome back to Wikipedia and the Teahouse. I think you will find all the guidance you need at this page called Help:Referencing for beginners. It takes a bit of reading, but inserting references correctly is really important to support the things you say. Both of our two editing tools have a "Cite" button which offers you a range of templates to fill in - be it to a book, website, newspaper or journal. In the Visual Editor, the Cite button also gives you a pop-up screen which includes the ability to automatically generate a reference from an ISBN number or a url from certain types of website. Hope this helps.  Regards form the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:00, 2 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Hey, good to see you back in the saddle and returning to the Teahouse.
 * Looking at your contributions, I see where you started the draft as an unreferenced stub and other users have been filling in some sources. If you have sources to include, you may want to take a look at referencing for beginners to get you started.
 * And, happy birthday wishes.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 18:10, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Adding a Video to my Wikipedia Page
Hi I would like to know how to add a video to my page and how to give permission to Wikipedia. I am the creator of the video and would like to donate it to Wikipedia.

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:77B0:5180:1503:94DD:BE63:E0C8 (talk) 19:55, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello anonymous IP. Welcome to the Teahouse, and  thanks for your question. Providing that you created all the video content yourself, and that it  contains no  copyrighted images, graphics or soundtrack, you can simply upload the video from a registered account yourself to Wikimedia Commons. However, you  will first have to convert the video into a format which is acceptable for Commons. (Mpegs and AVI files are not OK as they use copyrighted/licenced technologies). To convert small videos into an acceptable format like WEBM, I use free online tools like ZAMZAR and upload the WebM file to Wikimedia Commons using this link. These free tools  often have a file  size limit. So, for large videos up to 2GB (or even up to 20Gb) we have a special conversion/upload tool here. It's not the most user-friendly tool in the box,  but it does the job! I hope this gives you the information you need. Let us know if not. Just two final things, please sign your posts with four tildes like this:, and remember that we don't  refer to 'my page' on Wikipedia as everything is in the public domain here and free for anyone to use - even content on our userpages. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:07, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Is this public domain?
I'm wondering if the map from here is pd. On one hand it's a government publication so I'd say yes, but on the other hand it credits the PaleoMap Project so I'm hesitant. Thanks, <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;background:#E6E6FA;border:solid 1px;border-radius:7px;box-shadow:darkblue 0px 3px 3px;"> User:Dunkleosteus77 &#124;push to talk 00:53, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for asking the question. I suggest asking at WP:MCQ, a question board specifically for copyright questions and so will be watched by folks knowledgeable in that area.  RudolfRed (talk) 01:42, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * This should help, although it won't answer your specific question. It does make it clear that being on the USGS site does not automatically mean it is pd.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  01:14, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Template:Uw-block
Why is it a UW? 70.21.180.130 (talk) 02:37, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * UW stands for "user warning". John from Idegon (talk) 02:44, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi In addition t 's above, Uw-block - is a message that warns user their have been temporary block from editing Wikipedia. Thank you. <b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 03:31, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

delete an image
hello i uploaded an image and got a message of it being a copywrite...not my intention to upload a copywrite image  ,, now how do i delete it???thanks in advance  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farid999111 (talk • contribs) 19:24, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Farid999111 I assume your talking about the image on commons, if so you don;t have to do anything as it's already been removed. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:38, 2 June 2018 (UTC)


 * thanks kylieTastic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farid999111 (talk • contribs) 07:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

create an article
how can i create my own article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dheerajkumar Pittala (talk • contribs) 09:29, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I would caution you that successfully creating a new article is actually the hardest thing to do on Wikipedia.  You would be better off to learn about Wikipedia first by editing existing articles, to get a feel for what is being looked for.  You should probably use the tutorial located at WP:ADVENTURE first. However, if you still want to attempt to create an article, you should read Your First Article to learn about the process and then visit Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review.  Understand that it will take time and patience, and that it may take a few tries. 331dot (talk) 09:33, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Spam / vandalization
Reading the article on truck manufacturer Kenworth in the english wikipedia I found an anomality regarding ownership of the company. Checking the edit log I found that someone had been inserting numerous incorrect text in several articles. Since I not familiar how to correct this spamming I ask any interrested to fix this.

You find the users "contributions" here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/121.244.147.149

Some has been corrected bu there are several that has not been corrected. This "contributor" has been warned at least once last year, but this may he got on a spree once again.

With regards / Ratatosk (maybe a future contributor after retirement) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.214.149.72 (talk) 21:02, 2 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for spotting those incidences of vandalism. I've reverted the Kenworth example.  Are there others remaining?   <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  11:28, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Editing Images in Person Infobox and Deleting or Renaming New Images on Commons
Hi There! I am a brand new editor (as of today) and I am editing a page on a volunteer basis. My first task is to replace an image in a Person Infobox. I decided to start off in my Sandbox and was able to upload the picture as a test for myself, but in the process ended up actually posting the picture to Commons when I wasn't ready, and the file name is wrong. Also, in the Infobox I really can't figure out how to replace an image. This leads me to questions: 1 - What is the easiest way to update/change an image in a Person Infobox? 2 - How can I delete, replace, or rename an image on Commons?

Please excuse any terms I might be describing incorrectly - I just started this a few hours ago!

Thanks in advance.

Angela — Preceding unsigned comment added by ADLangille (talk • contribs) 20:41, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. You have not uploaded any images to commons, or saved any sandbox edits, at least not under the user name ADLangille.
 * Often the simplest way to correct a file name at commons if the file is not yet being used anywhere is just to re-upload it under the correct name.
 * I tried to re-upload with the correct name several times but I received a message that states the file us already uploaded and I am unable to continue. Might this be related to the file being marked for deletion (which I am ok with)? Everything I have tried to do so far is in my sandbox, and not using a Person Infobox, however the photo I need to ultimately edit is on an existing page. --ADLangille (talk) 22:34, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Many infoboxes support a image parameter. Code such as  (replacing "FileName.jpg" with the correct name) will often work, but check the documentation page for the particualr infobox tempalte you are using, as they do not all work in exactly the same way.
 * Be sure that the image has been released under a free license that permits anyone to reuse it, otherwise it will be deleted from commons fairly promptly.
 * What should be my approach if the person in the image has provided me with the permission to use the photo? The photo is indeed commons:File:BF headshot.jpg as mentioned below.--ADLangille (talk) 22:34, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I see you asked the exact same question on the help desk. In future please don't do that, it can waste volunteer time and cause confusion.
 * I hope this is helpful. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 02:12, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You uploaded commons:File:BF headshot.jpg. In most infoboxes the way to use it would be . See commons:Commons:File renaming. If you are specific in questions then we can help better. If you had named the infobox you are trying to use then we wouldn't have to say   may be the way to go. If we knew who "BF" was then we could have made the rename request or a Commons editor with the required permission might already have renamed it. Now we have to give more general answers. User:PrimeHunter (talk) 02:43, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * This is helpful. What is the best way for me to be specific with indicating the page? Will a link to the page suffice or is there another method? --ADLangille (talk) 22:34, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * , the image in question is of one Bruce Friedrich, and it has been previously published on a website marked "All rights reserved". Hence, I nominated it for deletion at Commons. Google reverse image search can answer many questions. John from Idegon (talk) 04:22, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm answering several posts here. Both the page and image should be linked to be specific. You haven't saved any sandbox edits so I guess it's about File:BF headshot.jpg and the code in Bruce Friedrich. We prefer wikilinks like these but url links would also have been OK on this page. There is a system to detect whether an identical file with another name has already been uploaded. I guess you encountered that. It is not related to the file being nominated for deletion. The article infobox currently says  so a replacement would be  . The infobox code starts   so there is documentation at Template:Infobox person. There are many other person infoboxes in Category:People and person infobox templates. Don't try to rename the image while commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:BF headshot.jpg is ongoing. The photographer usually has copyright on an image. Are you sure the subject has the right to have the image published with a free license? See commons:Commons:OTRS. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:48, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

To star wrting
I want write about my place so how can I create new page on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raghavadmn (talk • contribs) 17:48, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, you can read our policies and guidelines on editing with a conflict of interest and not writing autobiographical material.
 * Beyond that, if you're going to write an article about anyone or anything, here's the steps you should follow:
 * 1) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find.
 * 2) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.
 * 3) Summarize those sources from step 2, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer.
 * 4) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.
 * 5) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.
 * 6) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.
 * 7) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 2 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).
 * Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)