Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 798

Real Life Superhero
I am creating a Real Life Superhero page. The reason for it not being accepted is the generic; ''It appears that your submission is either an attempt to be humorous rather than factual or is an obvious hoax. As Wikipedia strives to contain only factual entries, we can not accept your submission at this time.''

This Article refers to several Real Life Superheroes. I've also noticed several that have pages on Wikipedia, what would make their stories any less "factual" or "humorous" than the one I am creating? — comment by ∞∞∞∞∞ (talk • contribs) 00:35, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.
 * I noticed your Draft:Dash Johnson earlier and have now reverted your attempts at adding improperly sourced material to the Real-life superhero page.
 * The problem with your contributions (unlike most of the contributions on that page) is that you have pointed to sources that cannot be accepted as reliable. Wikipedia expects references to be published by entities with a reputation for fact checking and journalistic ethics. There is even a well-accepted essay titled Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. At this point, it appears you are trying to add material about yourself or someone you have a connection with. This is conflict-of-interest editing and it is strongly discouraged, especially in cases where you engage in free-with-the-facts advocacy.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 02:07, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Anas Aremeyaw Anas is a real person and even has a documentary. IMDB has a reputation for providing accurate information on movies and documentaries. Why can't he be listed on the Real Life Superheroes page with that reference? As for Dash Johnson, I merely have been following Dash's story for some time and would like to share it in hopes that others provide their accounts of Dash's story. Why would you assume that I'm trying to add material about myself or someone I have a connection with? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NdajiyaSuberu (talk • contribs) 18:49, 4 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Nobody has answered you, so I'll answer what I can. I don't know what your point is about Anas: the issue is not whether he is a real person, but the fact that there is no citation to explain why he is mentioned in Draft:Dash Johnson. Wikipedia does not regard IMDB as a reliable source because (just like Wikipedia itself) it is largely generated by users - see Citing IMDb. This is an encyclopaedia, where we summarise what reliable sources have said about a subject - nothing more. Sharing a story "in hopes tht others provide their accounts of" it sounds like a function of social media, not an encyclopaedia. I presume the reason that thought you had a conflict of interest is that your draft states (again without any evidence) that Dash is believed to have a twitter handle with part of your name. Finally, it is hard to take a draft seriously that contains preposterous claims such as time travel, especially without even an attempt at any references to back this up. See WP:FRINGE. --ColinFine (talk) 09:22, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Help me to publish an article of reputaed construction company
Can any one review this and help me to publish this page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Recwiki/sandbox Recwiki (talk) 03:11, 6 July 2018 (UTC) Sir, actually the url of site was "Nirmal contractors.tk" but it redirects to WordPress site hence it was an normal site so sir pls help me bcz the company was an rapidly growing popular construction company in its local region.Recwiki (talk) 06:05, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Presumably if this company is rapidly growing, that growth will have grabbed the attention of independent sources such as newspapers? You'll need to cite those sources to demonstrate the notability of the company. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:32, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Sir can i use fb links as references and the articles which are published offline in the newspaper.Recwiki (talk) 07:45, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Probably not, . Sources do not have to be online, as long as they are published by a reputable organ, and enough information is given that a reader can in principle obtain them (eg through a public library). If they are available online, a URL is helpful, but it is not the important part of the citation. Please see referencing for beginners. Also bear in mind that to be useful, references must be substantial and independent: a mere mention of a company or product is of very little value for Wikipedia, and nor is an article which is evidently based on a press release. --ColinFine (talk) 09:31, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

My Lists
Hello, I have the Wikipedia app on my phone and have saved some lists to it. I am having trouble locating my lists on the desktop version. I am signed in on both. Is it possible to get them on my computer or is it only an app feature? — Preceding unsigned comment added by QkuksWiki (talk • contribs) 05:51, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Wikimedia Apps/Android FAQ explains the use of these, and says "While there are no immediate plans to add the synced reading list feature to desktop or mobile web, we encourage you to occasionally check back for further updates." It also mentions that there is a browser extension available which will let you add pages to your synced reading list from the browser, but it doesn't look as if your can view the list from the browser. --ColinFine (talk) 09:40, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi
Hello guys thanks for inviting me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Furry ninja (talk • contribs) 07:15, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome! Feel free to ask questions here, if you need help editing. /Julle (talk) 16:01, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Creation of an Article for an artist
I am asking that why is this happening to me? I am writing about an artist who is very popular at our state. So, please help me to create an article about him. Because an artist like him needs an Wikipedia Article. So, please think once about it. It will be an honor to him for having an Wikipedia Article. -Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kishore Raj Narayan Patar (talk • contribs) 17:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * If you're going to write an article about anyone or anything, here are the steps you should follow:
 * 1) Choose a topic whose notability is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources.
 * 2) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find.
 * 3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.
 * 4) Summarize those sources from step 2, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer.
 * 5) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.
 * 6) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.
 * 7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.
 * 8) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 2 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).
 * Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:55, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * What you submitted as an Article for Creation (AfC) had no content, and thus rejected. What is in your sandbox does not meet the requirements for an article yet - needs work. David notMD (talk) 19:26, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Michelotti Pura page why cant it get accepted?
Hi Can someone kindly take a look at the Michelotti Pura page and advise why I am having problems getting it accepted. Its a rare supercar based on a track car that is referenced in wiki elsewhere also its designer and engineer. I have included magazine article references and could include photos of the magazine although that might be a copyright problem if I do. What am I still doing wrong? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelotti Pura (talk • contribs) 09:42, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * If you're going to write an article about anyone or anything, here are the steps you should follow:
 * 1) Choose a topic whose notability is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources.
 * 2) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find.
 * 3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.
 * 4) Summarize those sources from step 2, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer.
 * 5) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.
 * 6) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.
 * 7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.
 * 8) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 2 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).
 * Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion.
 * Looking at Draft:Michelotti Pura, you cited:
 * Three magazines, with no indication of who publishes those magazines.
 * Posts by random unknown people on a blog, a forum, and unprofessional directories.
 * Indiscriminate entries on a toy website, an eBay entry for a trading card,
 * An affiliated site.
 * The magazines might be reliable if anyone could actually verify them or their contents. The Archivio Storico Michelotti is not independent.  The rest of the sources do not meet our reliable sourcing guidelines.  Ian.thomson (talk) 18:10, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Only one of these was made, in 1988, as a prototype. I cannot see how that qualifies as notable. David notMD (talk) 19:31, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Dark Mistress account
I no longer have control of it, as the password does not work. Also, I suspect that the email, if any, no longer exist or cannot control it. I did not use that email with yahoo for more then 4 years or longer, and I DO KNOW that yahoo has a policy of deleting email addresses and then anyone can create a new account with the same name, but I do not think so as one security question worked. Regardless, I need to know this Dark Mistress account email so I can see if it is my current one. I cannot get yahoo to help me, as the website errored out each time I tried contacting them. --70.35.188.218 (talk) 20:47, 6 July 2018 (UTC) EDIT: Moot. I GOT MY ACCOUNT BACK! -- Pretty les♀♥, Dark Mistress,   talk,  20:50, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Woohoo! This would be a good time to go to Special:Preferences and update the email address to one you are currently using. –FlyingAce✈hello 21:39, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * This email is in fact my primary yahoo account. I have an older yahoo account I want back for rededit password recovery, but I am not changing my email for Wikipedia. The old yahoo account was created sometime in 2009 or so, but I think that one was deleted outright. -- Pretty les♀♥, Dark Mistress,   talk,  21:42, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm not fully sure I understand your question, but if I did, I sent an email to you.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  22:30, 6 July 2018 (UTC)→
 * Yes I read it. I just got it. Anyhow, I got my account back. -- Pretty les♀♥, Dark Mistress,   talk,  22:33, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Insufficient wikilinks
There are lots and lots of articles with "too few wikilinks". My question is: what's a good number? Unlike many of the other editing categories, there are no detailed guidelines for this. Sometimes, the article is barren enough that the need for more links is obvious (e.g. ASL interpreting even after I added a few), but other times this tag is not intuitive. The example of this that led me to ask this question was the article for James Patterson's bibliography. Does something like that really need more wikilinks, or are bots just not good at picking up on lists like that? Even in more standard articles such as ASL interpreting, what's a good point to remove that banner? Matthew V. Milone (talk) 19:58, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * In regards to the James Patterson bibliography article, that banner was slapped on it when the books still were external links to worldcat.org instead of wikilinks to articles on those books. I'd personally consider linking each publisher once (on first occurrence), but other than that it doesn't seem like there's a lack of links there.
 * More in general, it depends on several factors. There's not really a good, numerical, value one could give, either for the article as a whole or "one link per so many words", because it depends highly on not only article size but also subject matter and the existence or lack thereof of other articles relevant to the one you're editing. A relevant page is MOS:UNDERLINK. Keeping the information there in mind, if you read the article:
 * Are there any terms not linked that you feel should be?
 * Are there any articles not linked to that you feel should be?
 * If the answer to both of those is no, and links have been added between now and when the tag was added, it's usually okay to remove the template (but if someone disagrees and adds it back on, don't re-remove but discuss instead).
 * If the answer is no, but the article hasn't changed (at least in regards to links) from when the template was added, it can't hurt to figure out from the revision history who added it and explain to that editor why you feel it doesn't need more links and ask why they feel it does need them/if they're fine with you removing the tag.
 * If the editor that added it is no longer active, or if it was added by a bot rather than a human, you could either ask on the article's talkpage before removing, or remove it and explain your reasoning on the talkpage afterwards. (Or remove with a short explanation in your edit summary, but again if reverted, discuss).
 * If the answer to either or both of those questions is yes, the solution is of course to add those links first.
 * AddWittyNameHere (talk) 21:26, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That was helpful. Thanks a lot! Matthew V. Milone (talk) 23:33, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Adding an ARG to wikipedia
So, I recently discovered an obvious ARG on reddit. r/cultoftheobsidian. I have also noticed that right now, it being only a month old, it is not very popular at all. I think it should deserve a page of it's own, but I'm not sure if wikipedia would allow that. Would anyone care to explain if this could happen or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooys1 (talk • contribs) 14:50, 5 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I have no idea what an ARG is, but whatever it is, the criterion is "Have several people who have no connection to the subject chosen to publish material of significant length about it, and been published in reliable places?" If so, then an article can be written, based almost entirely on what those independent sources have said about it. Please see WP:GNG and your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 18:12, 5 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, User:ColinFine, to elaborate on what an ARG is, an ARG stands for "Alternate reality game" whereupon puzzles and certain things are put out to be solved without any explicit statement that they were ever actually puzzles. See I Love Bees as a notable example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooys1 (talk • contribs) 00:35, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Adding your own parameters for infoboxes?
Hello. I am updating infoboxes for metro/railroad stations in Russia, usually by just taking the info from the Russian Wikipedia. Russian Wikis' infoboxes for stations includes parameter "chief engineer", while English wiki does not have it. For many stations the chief engineers were, well, prominent engineers, like Vladimir Shukhov and they naturally have English language articles, but I can't add them to the infobox. Is it at all possible to add aditional parameters for Template:Infobox station at a given page without editing the Infobox itself? Ideally, it would be grat if I could add parameter that would show up under the Template:Infobox station category. Thanks. Openlydialectic (talk) 03:10, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * , you should probably take this up on the template's talk page or at WT:RR. Even though I'm a railfan, I don't edit on RR articles, but from what I've seen, they are pretty insistent on uniformity. John from Idegon (talk) 03:23, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I am probably not invested enough to do that, but maybe I'll try later. Openlydialectic (talk) 03:26, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Taxonomy
Hi,

I'm writing about a modest little bivalve. There is some dispute about its name. The ITIS database (and the rest of Wikipedia, for that matter) refers to it as "Tellina simulans". The WoRMS database says that this name is no longer accepted and the correct name is "Eurytellina simulans". Eurytellina was previously a sub-genus and has apparently been promoted. It seems to me that Eurytellina is likely the more "correct" answer in that the new name presents the most current thinking on this topic, and is based on the database that specializes in marine life. On the other hand, I am aware of many instances where biologists fight amongst themselves about taxonomy. Does Wikipedia have a view on what is definitive in taxonomy?

Thanks! Jordanroderick (talk) 15:38, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.
 * Yours is a specialist question best asked at the relevant Wikiproject: WT:WikiProject Tree of Life.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 15:43, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

How does "thanks" work?
Just curious: How does the relatively new (to me, at least) Wikipedia feature of being about to "thank" as editor for a specific edit on an article's history page work? I just tried it. I thought the "thanks" would go to either the editor's Talk page or the article's Talk page, but it didn't seem to go anywhere. DrLuthersAssistant (talk) 19:45, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. When you click "thank", it shows up as a notification in the upper right corner of the screen(assuming you are using a computer), not as a talk page message. I will try to thank you in order to demonstrate. 331dot (talk) 19:47, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Got it. Nice feature. Thanks! -- DrLuthersAssistant (talk) 19:56, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

When will my draft be approved?
Hi everyone, What’s the holdup with the draft I submitted for an article? It’s been sitting around for a week and I see other articles were either rejected or accepted in far less time...? Vilamich (talk) 17:32, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, . The "Review waiting" notice on Draft:Kesznick says "This may take 4 weeks or more. Please be patient. Drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 1646 pending submissions waiting for review". I believe this answers your question. While you are waiting for review, I suggest you find a source for the 2016 population (both the sources you cite are older than this); and either remove the pronunciation or, preferably, correct it to refer to this village rather than another one. --ColinFine (talk) 17:59, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I live there and I know the population so I’m not going to add another reference. Also I don’t know how to add the right pronounciation characters. Someone else should do that. Vilamich (talk) 18:05, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * What you know to be true does not count as acceptable Wikipedia sourcing. David notMD (talk) 18:31, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I understand what you’re saying, but what I’m saying is that it’s true so it doesn’t need a source. Thanks Vilamich (talk) 18:49, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I have accepted the article but removed the population figure until a reliable source is produced. Theroadislong (talk) 18:56, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * , did you check the sources to see if they verify the content? I can't see mention of the village in the second source, and can't find any other references to this village online. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:01, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * And I have corrected the pronunciation. For future reference,, this didn't require knowing any IPA (though in fact I do know some). When I opened it for editing, I found the relevant part said , and I altered it to . As you can see, the template IPAc-pl handles transliterating the Polish orthography into IPA (which works because Polish orthography is pretty well phonemic). As for the population figure, Wikipedia works on Verifiability not truth. --ColinFine (talk) 19:07, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * My apologies for not showing due diligence, it would appear that there is no place called Kesznick mentioned anywhere! Speedy delete hoax? Theroadislong (talk) 19:11, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Unless can explain what's going on, I'd say so. Here is a satellite image of the co-ordinates specified in the article infobox. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:14, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Something must be wrong with the satellites, because the village is definitely there. I am communicating from the village presently. 19:24, 7 July 2018 (UTC)Vilamich (talk)
 * You will have to do better than that. We can't just take your word for it. 331dot (talk) 19:27, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Hello, and thank you.

Unfortunately it looks like user:Cordless Larry is attempting to have an article I created according to Wikipedia standards deleted and is accusing me of hoaxing. Is there a way to prevent this kind of behavior in the future? Also please note that the draft was listed in top 25 good drafts with no problems for over a week before a user:Theroadislong who currently has approval rights accepted it. Vilamich (talk) 19:30, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Theroadislong has conceded they may have made an error. Cordless Larry is an experienced and knowledgeable user, and trying to turn this around on to him is not a good move for you. You can either admit to what is going on here, produce evidence from reliable sources to support your claims, or move on to something else. 331dot (talk) 19:33, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * This is all one discussion and does not need to be separated. User conduct is not handled here, but at WP:ANI, though if you bring this there it is likely to WP:BOOMERANG back to you. 331dot (talk) 19:35, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Article has been deleted as a hoax by User:JzG thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 19:38, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The way to avoid accusations of hoaxing is to provide evidence (in the form of citations of reliable sources) that the subject is genuine. Maproom (talk) 19:42, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * When you include latitude and longitude, and there is nothing on the map at that point, and the place scores the coveted zero Google hits, and when text searches of online versions of the "sources" also fail to find the article subject, we are entitled to conclude that it's a hoax. Guy (Help!) 20:39, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Peter Schmeichel goal score for Manchester United
Hi, I have corrected Peter Schmeichel goal score for Manchester United as the entry not correct, I have corrected by adding 1 goal he did score where total goal scored 10 but removed even though I have added citation. Please check. Kind Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anwarhs (talk • contribs)
 * Hi Anwarhs, welcome to the Teahouse. Click the "View history" tab to see the page history [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Schmeichel&action=history]. Your edit was reverted with edit summary "League only in infobox". The bottom of the infobox says "Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only". You changed 9 to 10 right next to the source comment . Your source is not about a league goal. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:19, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

I need some help fixing my setup for archiving my Talk page
I have read Archiving a talk page and Archive HowTo several times but I'm flummoxed. I think my mistake was setting up an archive page titled, User talk:Markworthen/Archive N, when it should have been User talk:Markworthen/Archives/ 1, although I'm not sure that's the error, or if I made more than one mistake. In addition to the "N" archive page, I also have User talk:Markworthen/Archives/ 1 and User talk:Markworthen/Archives/ 2, created by Lowercase sigmabot III (I didn't create those pages, so I assume it was the bot). The "N" archive page is the only one that correctly links (in the header) to my current Talk page. I appreciate any assistance y'all can provide to cure my flummoxation. ;-)

A related question: the Archive HowTo page states that one should use the following for the "archive" parameter:

| archive            = User talk:Example/Archive %(counter)d

Whereas, Archiving a talk page states that one should use this for the "archive" parameter:

| archive=/Archive %(counter)d

Is one of those better than the other?

Thank you! - Mark D Worthen PsyD  (talk)  12:41, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, fancy meeting you here in the Teahouse!
 * It does seem like you have messed up the archive template. It was doing what you instructed it to do, but the various templates that support archiving expect the talk page to be just one level up and the archive files themselves to have sequence numbers. And in your last attempt, it looks like you partially substituted the template into itself.
 * If I were trying to fix this for you, I would move all of the messages in N, 1, and 2 back to your talk page, fix the archiving template to one of its standard forms, and increase the allowed archive size to at least 350-500K. I also think leaving 3-5 threads behind looks better than having your talk page reduced to just one message. But these are all a matter of taste. You'd ask for the current N, 1, and 2 to be deleted and let the archivebot create the archives again in what is now the conventional locations. The archive search box from the talk page header template should then pick them up automatically.
 * Those two different instructions represent different approaches of achieving the same result. In the first one, you are expected to understand that you have to replace "Example" with your username. In the second, pasting exactly that text into your user talk page will substitute your user name into the proper place. Either approach is fine.  — jmcgnh (talk)  (contribs) 14:24, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much ! I will give it a go and if I can't figure it out, I shall return for nice steaming cup of Oolong. ;-)  - Mark D Worthen PsyD   (talk)  23:03, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Template:Living spaces
For those interested in housing as a topic. Template:Living spaces.-Inowen (nlfte) 18:43, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for visiting the Teahouse . I also enjoy creating templates! I think your template needs a little bit of editing to remove the bullet points. Other than that, thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Best Regards, Barbara ✐ ✉  01:00, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

I'm brand new here, so I was wondering..
Hi everyone. I'm brand new here, and a complete n00b. I've got an idea for a couple of articles I'd like to create, and I just wanted to check here if you believe they would be accepted in the encyclopedia, before I give them a shot. I understand there are lots of rules, which I'm currently reading, in particular that subjects have to be notable in some way. I want to create a couple of articles for mental health organisations in New Zealand. I'm a consumer of these organisations, but don't think that would make a conflict of interest? Not sure. I'm not associated with the organisations in any professional capacity. They're NZ wide organisations. My question is, would they qualify for having an article, or can I expect them to be marked for deletion? Thanks! Parallel-sojourner (talk) 23:20, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.
 * Thanks for checking in here first. WP does have articles about Category:Mental health organizations. You may want to look at some of them for examples of how these articles are constructed.
 * To write about an organization on Wikipedia, you need to demonstrate their notability through citations to independent, reliable sources. You should make sure your references support the criteria laid out in the notability for organizations.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 01:17, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Media
How can i add a photo to a page of a person that doesn't have a photo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by King Kamakazi Maesela (talk • contribs) 02:11, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Photo usage policy is very complex, and the answer depends on many variables. Is the person alive or dead? If the person is alive, any photo must be freely licensed for anyone to use for any purpose without permission or payment. Any photo available on Wikimedia Commons is OK to use. If the person has died, then our policy on the use of non-free images allows use of a low-resolution copyrighted photo in the biography of that person, as long as all the conditions are fulfilled. If you yourself are the photographer, you can upload that photo to Wikimedia Commons yourself, under an acceptable free license. Random photos that you find on the internet or in recently published books or magazines are almost never acceptable because of copyright restrictions. In order to give a more specific answer, I would need to know which person and which photo. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  02:49, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

kid-sized submarine
I think it can already stand as article? or too soon? I've seen loads of sources/news now that the submarine is used to rescue the team that was trapped Tham Luang cave rescue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.148.234.156 (talk) 03:55, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello IP user and welcome to the Teahouse.
 * I would advise holding off on creating such an article, but you might be able to create a redirect so that readers who have only heard about this aspect of the rescue efforts can be sent to the correct page. At this point, such an article would run afoul of WP:1EVENT if it were about a person.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 05:23, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * thx will be making draft, once the submarine was done or released. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.148.234.156 (talk) time, day month year (UTC)

Democratic Socialism
To Whom It May Concern,

The wiki page on Democratic Socialism is inaccurate. Please cite or reference other sources. The spread of misinformation is contagious enough, without the help of a trusted source. Please see the website and adjust. When we are talking about ideas, it is easy to get this stuff wrong.

Thank you for your time, Jeannine Ehrentraut — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:1F70:7120:E831:CDA8:FF80:CA9C (talk) 11:11, 8 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello Jeannine, and welcome to the Teahouse. This forum is primarily concerned with questions about basic Wikipedia-editing and assisting new editors with related issues. Please use the article's talkpage Talk:Democratic socialism for content-related discussions, if you noticed inaccuracies or errors. Please also provide independent reliable sources to verify such information (for a complex topic like this editors would ideally use sources from acknowledged academic experts). Changes and additions should generally not be based only on personal knowledge, but must be based on published sources. I hope these tips are helpful, but please feel free to ask here if you have any further questions. GermanJoe (talk) 11:26, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Language used
Do wikipedia articles need to use formal english? - LionCountry25 (talk) 12:07, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Depends. What does "formal English" mean to you? We have a manual of style whose general idea is to write in "encyclopedic" style. You might also be interested to learn about the Simple English Wikipedia. Tigraan Click here to contact me 12:37, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * For example can we use didn't or won't? Or Hon. instead of Honourable?- LionCountry25 (talk) 23:45, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Hello and thank you for your question. One way to look at how formal the writing should be is to read a lot of articles in the topic area in which you have an interest. Also, since you are a newer editor, editors with more experience will be helping you with the article and changing the words you use. It really doesn't have to be any more complicated than that. If you would like a Teahouse host take a look at a draft that you have created just come back to the Teahouse and we will be glad to take a look and check to see if you are writing in the correct format! Best Regards, Barbara ✐ ✉  00:44, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks Barbara, but unfortunately the only thing I get from my fellow editors is abuse instead of correcting them - LionCountry25 (talk) 06:07, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * How unfortunate! I considered myself abused when I first began editing and didn't understand the hostility of others. Please keep in touch and I will be glad to take a look at some of your articles. There are other Teahouse hosts who also have a 'heart' for new editors. Leave a note on my talk page and I will be very happy to help out. The Very Best of Regards, Barbara ✐ ✉  12:25, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank You very much Barbara, appreciate the support - LionCountry25 (talk) 12:28, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Orange Justice
anyone helps this draft are appreciated :). Bryan (talk) 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Greetings Bryan, and thank you for your visit to the Teahouse to get some help. I took a quick glance at your draft and believe it to be in good shape and expect it to become an article at some point. I will be able to help improve it, if that is alright with you. The biggest thing I think you need to change is the first sentence. The first sentence needs to be a definition of the title of the article. You seem to have a lot of references and I will go through those to make sure they are good references. Continue to work on the article and make it better. Contact me on my talk page to keep in touch. Best Regards, Barbara ✐ ✉  12:31, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * omg thank you so much, you can help anything g that you can because I'm not good at making up an article, I just made this draft because this dance has been blowing up and the dance was good. Bryan (talk) 8 July 2018 (UTC)

About adding photo.
How to add a picture on a wiki info page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by K Srinidhi (talk • contribs) 13:19, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello . Welcome to our Teahouse. There are two parts to answering this question. Firstly, you may only add (upload) a new picture to a Wikipedia article if you own the rights to the image, or if that image has previously been released under a licence which allows for it to be re-used for commercial purposes. (i.e. certain types of Creative Commons licences). Essentially, that means that you may not copy any image from another copyrighted website and pretend it's your own and then upload it. If you do, that image will be swiftly deleted. If, however, you have taken a picture yourself, say of an Indian actress, and wanted to upload it to Wikimedia Commons, you should visit Help:Pictures for details on how to do that and then to insert that image into an article. So, for example, I found the image above on Wikimedia Commons and have added it here with a caption of my own. Let us know if you need more detailed guidance on anything (and do please remember to sign every talk page post with four tildes, like this: ). Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:09, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

I need to edit "Lord of Vermilion: Crimson King"
If I need to have an anime expansion after The Walt Disney Company were aquired by the franchuse from Square Enix like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.Yansen (talk • contribs) 12:32, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what you want to do. Can you explain more? Calliopejen1 (talk) 12:40, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

One should note that the user's edit regarding this subject was reverted because it constituted vandalism. CoolSkittle (talk) 18:12, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Editing
How do I edit greater things EX (not saying I would edit these exact ones) Acura, McDonalds, ECT it says that it is protected. How do I make it so I can edit it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aredstone9955 (talk • contribs) 16:56, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse. Until you are autoconfirmed (which won't take long), you can propose edits on the respective article talk pages which are (usually) not protected.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  18:13, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Can't find my new page 'Habibur Rahman'.
Hello, i can't find my new page 'Habibur Rahman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imranhossain107057 (talk • contribs) 18:00, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse. It looks like you were trying to add a new article to this Portal Talk page Portal talk:Biography, which is not the place for new articles.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  18:04, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I created User:Imranhossain107057/Habibur Rahman for you.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  18:08, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

thanks a lot dear, sir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imranhossain107057 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

About an advertisement
How do I report a page that is promotional? CoolSkittle (talk) 20:52, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse.
 * If we are talking about a page in article space, the first stage is to "tag" the page with the template advert. You can include a month and year like this:  or, if you want to get fancy, use  . But if you don't put a date there, a bot will come along later and add the current month for you. That template would go at the top of the page. If it was just a section of the page that was promotional, you could use a slightly different version:   which you would place just under the section header.
 * Some pages are subject to speedy deletion through the WP:CSD qualification, but you should perhaps hold off on that step until you are more familiar with the applicable policies.
 * And one remedy is for you to edit the language used in the article to render it neutral and nopromotional. If you think the subject is notable, this is the preferred course.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 21:08, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice CoolSkittle (talk) 22:15, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

I WANA WRITE AN ARTICLE
how to write an article about a people will you please sugest me to comeup from this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaparibond123 (talk • contribs) 09:22, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Writing an article is the hardest thing to do on Wikipedia. It takes much time and practice.  I would suggest that you take some time to edit existing articles first, to learn more about how to edit Wikipedia and what is being looked for in articles.  You may also want to use this tutorial which will also help you learn.  Only after you learn more should you then go into creating articles.  Please understand that not every person merits an article here; people must be shown with independent reliable sources to meet the notability guidelines listed at WP:BIO.
 * I would observe from your post that English may not be your first language. You may feel more comfortable editing the Wikipedia of your native language. 331dot (talk) 09:29, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I am suspicious that your first/only posting was to Teahouse. Most new editors find out about Teahouse from an invitation posted to their Talk page. Furthermore, your errors in English spelling and grammar appear deliberate rather than those of a person not fully familiar with the language: misspellings, no capital letter at start of sentence, no punctuation. If I am mistaken, I apologize for my suspicion, and hope you find a path to becoming a useful contributor here or in another language. David notMD (talk) 11:00, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I wonder if it's possible that Kaparibond123 was an IP user before creating account. There may be more to this. Coryphantha   Talk  02:13, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Japan Heavy Rainfall
is there already an article? about another disaster in Japan that began on July 5, 2018 which killed 38 people — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.148.234.156 (talk) 22:03, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, welcome to the Teahouse. It's 2018 Japan floods. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:11, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yay Thx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.148.234.156 (talk) 22:14, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, 49.148.234.156, welcome. Please remember to always sign your posts on talk pages and at the Teahouse with four tildes: ~ . Best wishes. Coryphantha   Talk  02:18, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Gender equal page titles for sports teams
National sports teams are by default considered male on Wikipedia, without actually specifying this in the page title.

Example page titles:

France national football team

Vs.

France women's national football team

Let’s have Wikipedia proactively support gender equality in the page title naming conventions for those sports that have a team in each gender:

Example:

France men’s national football team

Vs.

France women’s national football team

The default search would remain with the most popular of the two, or however the algorithm currently works, but the page titles would recognize that there is no dominant gender, they are equal.

The current situation is a naming convention for many sports (and other activities) that contributes to a ‘casual sexism’ bias against women’s sports. A shift to more equitable naming conventions will help reduce the ongoing gender disparity of the visibility of women in sport.

Media reference: Andy Murray corrects journalist’s casual sexism — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisac83 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This isn't really the best forum for this sort of discussion (maybe the Village Pump), but Wikipedia isn't a platform to right great wrongs or advance social causes. We refer to things like sports teams as independent reliable sources do in most cases. 331dot (talk) 00:20, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * See also WP:COMMONNAME. I get "About 21,600 results" in a Google search on "France women's national football team" with quotation marks, only 1,370 on "France men's national football team", and 261,000 on "France national football team". There is far more writing about men's football than women's so the large majority of results on "France national football team" must be about the men's team. We do have United States men's national soccer team and Canada men's national soccer team since those terms are common. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:12, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia's Manual of style generally defers to the common usage, and since it's implied and understood to be the men's team when referring to the France national football team and is commonly referred to as such, that usage will be the acceptable neutral usage at least until the common usage becomes the "France men's national football team". As 331dot said, the talk page should be where this can be discussed to gain consensus on this. Coryphantha   Talk  02:30, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Removed/Missing URL
This citation was edited by 'CitationCleanerBot',, to remove the URL and access-date. The article is now appearing in the 'Category:Pages using web citations with no URL'. I assume that the URL was removed since the SSRN number links to the article abstract. I have done maintenance to articles to remove them from this maintenance category, often by changing the template, sometimes adding the URL. I would be irate if I added an URL to fix a maintenance issue to have a Bot remove it. Wikipedia describes SSRN as a 'website' not a 'journal' so I assume is appropriate. Does the Bot or template need to be enhanced?

I do not know what the standard is for using URLs with citations that use DOI, Bibcode, JSTOR, etc. I usually use URL to point to the actual text that supports the statement referenced. I have seen many times that URL is used to link to Google, Amazon, Worldcat, etc, descriptions of the book or journal, not the actual text. Any insights to share?User-duck (talk) 17:09, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse. You didn't identify which article you are talking about but I'm guessing you mean this article:
 * Banknote
 * While I'm not familiar with that particular bot, my guess is that your assumption is correct — given the link and the SSRN number there's no need for a redundant link as a URL. You stated that this edit remove the access date. I don't see that the access date was there before and I don't see it removed.
 * You mentioned that The article is now appearing in the 'Category:Pages using web citations with no URL. My guess is that this is triggered by some other citation not this one.
 * I don't consider it a best practice to use a URL to link to the actual text to support the statement. Many templates, including the cite web template, have a specific field called "quote" which is specifically designed to carry out that function.
 * See Template:Cite_web -- S Philbrick (Talk)  18:27, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks,, for the insight. Good guess on the article. I misremembered the bot removing the access-date (it was never there). I had added the URL to the cite to eliminate the maintenance listing (and a couple of other paramters like date. I do not know if I should add access-date, I had accessed the web page to verify it was still alive and had text of the source but did not verify that the text supported the statement. The bot did remove the url and access-date from a using a jstor parameter. But  does not require an URL and having a access-date without an url would generate an entry in a different maintenance category.
 * and documentation both state, "url: URL of an online location where the text of the publication can be found. …", text not identification or description. This would be redundant with the rest of the cite parameters. Is there some "guideline" that says when the url parameter is not to be used? User-duck (talk) 05:33, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Please help me on conventions regarding Hong Kong
Hi,

I recently added an entry for the 2018 award ceremony regarding José Vasconcelos World Award of Education. The award ceremony will be held in Hong Kong. I decided to add the Hong Kong flag 🇭🇰.

Issue is that Hong Kong is a an administrative region of China 🇨🇳.

What are the conventions to be used for Hong Kong in articles on Wiki? I have the feel that either way would be fine, but I prefer to ask this forum to get some guidelines.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Healing Mandala (talk) 16:15, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello and (belatedly) welcome to the Teahouse.
 * It seems no answer is forthcoming here. This sometimes happens on questions that require specialist knowledge to answer. You might have more success asking at WT:WikiProject Hong Kong.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 05:10, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Good luck to you....Cr@Z Kit-Kat Lovert@lk 08:05, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Proper number of citations for an uncontroversial stub
The name pretty much says it all. How many sources should an uncontroversial stub article, such as this, have? I think a good policy that one source is always too few, but would adding a second one be enough if it only applied to a specific claim in the article? Matthew V. Milone (talk) 03:58, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * My feeling is that "the proper number of sources for a stub" is not a sensible concept. A stub isn't really a proper thing at all; it's just an article on a subject which has been considered notable, but isn't yet in a good enough state to be welcomed as an article. Ideally, stubs would not exist. Maproom (talk) 13:25, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the Teahouse Matthew V. Milone. I am glad that you stopped by for a visit. I also create many stub articles and can tell you that they are a good start in adding content to Wikipedia. Before you add your stub article to Wikipedia have as many citations as possible to support the content. Your stub should be more than one sentence long-otherwise it should be a contribution to Wikitionary. Please continue to add referenced content to your stub and when it progresses to a longer article, it won't be a stub. Make certain that your references truly support your content and come from good publications. If you need any more help in working on stubs, please come back to the Teahouse. We love to help new editors. Best Regards, Barbara ✐ ✉  01:10, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * is right. I should not have said that stubs are unacceptable. The wording used at Stub is "too short to provide encyclopedic coverage". Maproom (talk) 07:17, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * There might be a misunderstanding here. I didn't create the article in question, and wasn't planning on creating an article in the near future. My approach to contributing to Wikipedia so far has been to look through the category pages for articles with basic problems, such as too few wikilinks, then pick an article in that category and fix the problem. In this case, I tried to take care of two problems at once: adding wikilinks and adding sources. The fact that it's a stub is still an issue, of course, but it's not one that I was intending to address, and a lack of sources is a distinct problem from a lack of material. Is my approach of fixing one problem in many articles reasonable, or is it recommended that I fix all the problems on a smaller set of articles? Matthew V. Milone (talk) 16:56, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * To answer the original question: it is not a question of number. For notability, WP:GNG's wording includes "sources" so it is commonly accepted that there should be at least two, but otherwise quality trumps quantity; two good sources are enough. In the example you linked to, the sources seem legit from the refs (I have not checked they exist or are actually reliable).
 * You should never feel compelled to fix "Y" when you set out to fix "X" (unless doing the fix for X breaks the article even more until the fix for Y is done).
 * Finally, I do not agree with here. We have plenty of short articles that are permastubs and fine as they are (arguably very few of existing stubs fall into that category, and most should be deleted, merged or developed, but some do). I remember a semi-famous entry of the Encyclopédie that went something like X is a plant that grows in Tierra del Fuego. A reader might wonder what good that entry does, as no further information is available; whoever does not live there cares little what grows there, and whoever does will already know it grows there upon seeing it. To which I answer that it is better than there is a silly entry, than no entry at all.  Tigraan Click here to contact me 09:17, 9 July 2018 (UTC)