Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 979

Adding Company logos
I am working on an article about Gibson Mfg., a company that made RR speeders and tractors from 1933-1952. How would I put the logo on the page? Tadfafty (talk) 04:56, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . You can some general information about image use in Wikipedia:Image use policy, Wikipedia:Copyrights and Wikipedia:Non-free content. Do you want to add a file to the article that someone else has already uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons or do you want to upload a file you found somewhere else (e.g another website) to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons and then add it to the article? If you can clarify this then it would make it easier for someone to help you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:18, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Just going to add something about the comment you left at Talk:Gibson Mfg.. Perhaps one of the reasons such an article hadn't yet been created is because it doesn't appear (at least from the sources you've provided so far) that the company would satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) for such an article to be written. You seem to be fairly new to editing, but generally only topics which can be shown to have received significant coverage in reliable sources are generally considered to be "Wikipedia notable enough for a stand alone article to be written. I'm not really seeing that in this particular case, so it might be best for you to move the article to the draft namespace when you can continue to work on it and try and find some better sourcing like mentioned in WP:CORPDEPTH; otherwise, I think the article is likely going to end up being WP:DELETED for a lack of notability. Once you've worked on the draft and have found better sources, you can then submit it for review to Wikipedia:Articles for creation. I also think that the title of the article should probably be changed to "Gibson Manufacturing Corporation" if that the name of the company, unless the current title is how it's most commonly referred to per WP:COMMONNAME. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:27, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * It is much easier to find articles on the company searching "Gibson Tractor" on google. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tadfafty (talk • contribs) 15:27, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * If that's the case and these articles are significant in their coverage per WP:CORPDEPTH, then they would help better establish the company's Wikipedia notability. Finding lots of trivial mentions and trying to show that combined together they make the company Wikipedia notable, on the other hand, is not generally going to be considered sufficient. Moreover, if the articles you find are more about the tractor than the company itself, then perhaps there could be an article about the tractor instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:50, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

2019 Koreas–United States DMZ meeting
Please let me know which subjects below could be the neutral point of view in Wikipedia.
 * 2019 Koreas–United States DMZ meeting
 * 2019 Koreas–United States DMZ Summit

Goodtiming8871 (talk) 23:59, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, as far as I'm cooncerned, both seem like they can be the neutral point of view in Wikipedia. That summit is a meeting. Hope this is useful. -- LPS and MLP Fan (LittlestPetShop) (MyLittlePony) 00:00, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * What matters is how independent reliable sources described the meeting. 331dot (talk) 00:02, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your prompt response. Concerning my understanding, I thought it might be okay with named as a "2019 Koreas–United States DMZ Summit" until yesterady.  However, I realized that the current subject could mislead the readers of Wikipedia because of three reasons below. 1) Offcially, it's defined as a DMZ meeting
 * 2) Dual standard between the previous summits(meetings) and the latest meeting 3) The independent reliable sources described it's a meeting in general.


 * > In details  about 1 and 2 above 1) After listening the official announcement by both U.S.A and South Korea President from the link below;
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE1Hg8DZEWQ
 * U.S.  President defined it's quck say Hello "meeting" with DPRK Kim
 * South Korea President also defined It's "a DMZ meeting" and it would be a springboard for "the third US-DPRK summit" within this year 2019.
 * Should we follow the official definition from U.S. and Korea?
 * 2) Can Wikipedia accept the Dual standard? If U.S. President meet the Chairman Kim for one hour, it should be called summit, but other country leader meet Chairman Kim for one or two days; should Wikipedia define it as a meeting;


 * The previous and the latest meeting or summit " Kim–Xi "and "Kim–Putin" was announced well in advnnce, and it's more than one or two days of the offcial event. However, a :::DMZ meeting was planned 15 minutes, but it was actually about one hour meeting in total as you noticed. * Kim–Xi meetings (First meeting to fifth meeting; 2018 ~ 2019)
 * Kim–Putin meetings (unofficial North Korea–Russia summit in 2019) Goodtiming8871 (talk 00:15, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I'm happy with either. The meeting was apparently important, as it produced a new direction for the peace process, i.e., the creation of working groups on both sides to liaise with each other. It also featured the three leaders in the DMZ talking and laughing, while their security details combined to ward off potential threats. If that's not peace breaking out, I don't know what is. So, yes, it could be called a summit: not Everest, but maybe Mt Kilimanjaro.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:24, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your feedback (User:Jack Upland). -If we call the DMZ Meeting as a summit: Should we call fifth Kim–Xi meetings as a summit? (i.e. renaming from the meeting to the summit)  Goodtiming8871 (talk) 23:52, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Announcement section
Hello Wikipedians, Please let us know your feedback for the talk page below if possible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2019_Koreas%E2%80%93United_States_DMZ_Summit#The_proper_contents_of_%22Announcement%22 Goodtiming8871 (talk) 01:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It's for discussion about the proper contents on Announcement of Trump-Kim meeting
 * Check out 3O if you are stuck in an edit dispute with only one other contributor. Flooding a talk page with 7 of 10 sections is bizarre, and the teahouse isn't designed for canvassing or dispute resolutions, it is also no VP or RfC surrogate. –84.46.52.138 (talk) 06:58, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind guide and I would reduce the subjects on Talk page, Would you please guide me the location of the case-example of 3O? I would like to understand more about it. Goodtiming8871 (talk) 07:07, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

sign in /log in
its about the log in",ing im cosnstanly trying to syudy more about the page in wikipedia and learn alittle bit more every day about what it consist of and i always ever since day one have gotten problems with log ins or just have a normal page like regular people have in a web page.its been about ten or more times ive made page on wikipedia !and a simiularity like yesterday it whinds up dissapearing into a no show account and i have make another one mwhy is that,is soo aggravating if it was a peronal handilings use problably would have gotten a lots of trouble from many people u done the same. can use say and correct the problem! i dont like changing the user name when its log in everything else  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neoblanksq (talk • contribs) 22:28, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Can you give us more information, perhaps the usernames of your previous accounts or the names of the pages you were trying to make? Thanks. William2001(talk) 00:07, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * welcome to the Teahouse. I am sorry you have had problems logging in. I might not have fully understood your difficulties, but it is a good idea to write down your account name and password if you think you might forget it. It is also sensible to add your email address in 'Preferences' (Look for the link at the top of the page. This lets you request a password reset, should you forget it. Can you tell us any of your earlier account names that you cant now access? That might help us understand if there is some other reason you cannot find or access your earlier accounts, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:14, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Question about referencing
Hello,

I'm working on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Alston and I'm not sure how to handle the references. Refs 1 and 4, and 3 and 5, are to the same books but different page numbers. Is there a more elegant way of handling this than to repeat all the reference information in both listings? It doesn't matter for this one since the reference list is so short but I'd like to know best practice. Many thanks! Logophile59 (talk) 01:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . There are a couple of ways to do what I think you'd like to do. Try looking at WP:REFNAME and Template:Rp for a simple way, and WP:HARV and WP:SFN for a little more involved approach. Whichever method you choose, however, please try to keep WP:CITEVAR in mind because it's generally not a good idea to completely switch to a new citation style without first proposing it on the article's talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:29, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Aha! Thanks.  I'll leave the article as is for now and take some time to learn the reference styles. I've noticed that there are a number of different approaches to referencing/footnoting and I guess it's important to not go overboard on a complex reference style in a simple article. Thanks again. Logophile59 (talk) 02:35, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Translation article from Dutch into English
Dear facilitators of this teahouse, An article in Dutch ‘Pakhuizen Medan, Bindjeij en Laboean’ was translated into English for review wrt ‘User:Paul bohte/Warehouses Medan, Bindjeij and Laboean’. I would welcome your help/advice very much how to get it published AND linked to the original Dutch article so the article will be available available in 2 languages. I do not understand either why the original pictures were not tranfered from the Dutch version into the English draft. I am really sorry that I am a starter and need therefore your clear directives and support. Regard --Paul bohte (talk) 09:22, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Paul bohte, I assure you, editors haven't been ignoring your request because it wasn't polite enough. I believe everyone is waiting for a real expert, a more experienced editor to respond to your particular issue as it covers a broad topic area. And your article looks scary at first sight, to me at least, not to mention the fact that I don't understand any of the copyright issues that come with using images in here. Let's give it a day, and if no one else answers, I'll try and see how I can try to help. Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 11:01, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Usedtobecool thx for your fast response --Paul bohte (talk) 13:20, 8 July 2019 (UTC). Usedtobecool the article doesn't look scarry anymore ;) --Paul bohte (talk) 15:15, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Links:
 * nl:Pakhuizen Medan, Bindjeij en Laboean
 * User:Paul bohte/Warehouses Medan, Bindjeij and Laboean
 * → Draft:Warehouses Medan, Bindjeij and Laboean
 * → → Warehouses Medan, Bindjeij and Laboean
 * Just for convenience, :) CiaPan (talk) 12:25, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Instead of copying a HTML table from Dutch to English article, try using appropriate template Infobox building based on a corresponding nl:Sjabloon:Infobox gebouw. --CiaPan (talk) 12:31, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * , I did it for you – see Special:Diff/905344141. --CiaPan (talk) 14:47, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

CiaPan You are a magician; the article already looks great. Is there anything else I have to do to link the English version to the original Dutch version? Or will the magic continue :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul bohte (talk • contribs) 13:17, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * As the Articles for creation says, you just need to add this code:  at the top of your draft page (i.e., at the top of User:Paul bohte/Warehouses Medan, Bindjeij and Laboean) and then wait for someone to review the article. It may take much longer than you expect! Meanwhile you can expand and improve the article. After the review either the page will be moved to the main article space, or you'll get a feedback describing what needs improvement. --CiaPan (talk) 14:56, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for your help. The code is included.--Paul bohte (talk) 15:15, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

I tried to help you fix some problems with your draft article, but have not given answers to your questions! Here they are: Best regards, CiaPan (talk) 07:48, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Why the original pictures were not tranfered from the Dutch version into the English draft? The pictures need not any transfer. They are stored at Wikimedia Commons, a multimedia repository, and can be accessed from any language Wikipedia to include in articles. The problem you met was not a transfer, but just an error in accessing the images. And the reason of the error was the prefix Bestand: which you did not translate to File:, hence a link like Bestand:DKH.jpg didn't work and the link [[File:DKH.jpg]] works as expected – compare this change.
 * How to link the original Dutch article to the English version? Interlanguage links between pages on the same topic are usually made by appropriate entries in Wikidata. For example Q2433228 is the entry for Lloyd Hotel. The #sitelinks-wikipedia section defines corresponding articles on Lloyd Hotel in English and Dutch language. If you draft is accepted, you can go to Q17291948 and add the en-wiki link there.
 * this is really great and so much more than expected. Many thx again for your contribution. Hopefully the draft will be accepted soon. --Paul bohte (talk) 07:58, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia article
Hi, I have submitted two articles in recent days about a person called Zeeshaan Shah. Both have been speedily deleted. I can understand the reason for the first article's deletion (I think) but the second article is no different in style and content to thousands of others on Wikipedia. It tells the story of a successful businessman. This article was deleted by IanDBeacon and I would greatly appreciate feedback from him or anyone else about the reasons for his actions. I need this feedback so I can make a contribution which will not be deleted in future. Thanking you in anticipation, Colin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beautiful Smokey (talk • contribs) 08:14, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * If other bad articles exist, that's an argument for deleting them, not adding more to the pile. The last deletion said the article didn't credibly establish notability of the subject. It means it wasn't sourced with substantial coverage from reliable, independent secondary sources. Please see WP:GNG and WP:RS for further information. It could be that you have been looking at the articles but not the sourcing of those similar articles that you talk about. See WP:Verifiability. For specific answers, of course, you can contact specific users on thier talk pages. For example, talk page of a user named IanDBeacon would be at User talk:IanDBeacon. Hope this helps! Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 08:41, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * , the reasons for the deletions were explained on your talk page.  Maproom (talk) 08:46, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

New contributor seeing overwhelming amounts of nonsense
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Hello. I just joined about an hour ago or so, finally deciding to contribute, and I clicked on the Recent Changes for the games wiki and this is what I see.

https://dieyoungwiki.indiegala.com/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&limit=50&days=14&enhanced=1&urlversion=2

Now my question is, what exactly am I seeing? To what would seem like common sense to someone with no experience here(me), it seems like massive amounts unrelated nonsense and talking about things that could be seen as impersonation of specific people(namely the indiegala development team, as one of the pages tries to appear as a series of introductions by the developers and is obviously erroneous just from reading it), some are arguably obscene(talking about sex toys somewhat-its incoherent sentences), but all of them almost(the recent ones) are not fit for being on the games wiki. I would guess a lot of it was auto-generated text. Theres even some plaguerism so it seems like a whole grab bag of violations.

to summarize, in ref to the link above, is this flood of erroneous entries something I can or should try to do something about, and if so, what would be the best course of action? thank you for reading/helping. --Mgsgta3 (talk) 09:41, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * If you want to see recent changes on wikipedia, the link is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges . We are not responsible for content on the other site that you have linked to. Polyamorph (talk) 10:02, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


 * (ec) The dieyoungwiki.indiegala.com is a separate website, unrelated to Wikipedia. Whatever questions you have related to its contents, you should ask them there, not here. --CiaPan (talk) 10:05, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Hi Mgsgta3, welcome to the Teahouse. This is a place to learn about Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia at https://en.wikipedia.org. We are not asssociated with the Die Young wiki at https://dieyoungwiki.indiegala.com. A wiki is just a type of website. Die Young uses the same free MediaWiki software as us so the sites may look similar but there is no other relation. I haven't heard about Die Young before and don't know anything about their content or policies. Some wikis get a lot of random spam and nonsense, often posted with bots (automated programs), and lack editors and tools to control it. We also have to battle it but keep it fairly under control. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:06, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

File deletion request
Someone who can, please delete Template:Navbox Thomas Dixon Jr. which is misnamed. Sorry. deisenbe (talk) 10:22, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 10:46, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Template creation error
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Something basic is wrong with Template:Thomas Dixon Jr. since I can't place it in a category. deisenbe (talk) 10:26, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Are you sure you want to create templates? Maybe you wanted to create an article. Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 10:40, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm creating a navbox template. deisenbe (talk) 10:46, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think you really need to put the navbox template into a category. What you possibly want to achieve is putting every article which includes the navbox into a category. This can be done by using the  tag. A code like this inside the template:
 * will expand to
 * in any page which includes the template, but not in the template page itself. See WP:INCLUDEONLY for more info. --CiaPan (talk) 10:58, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * (All other comments trump my comments, in this subject) Sorry, Had to ask. Did you try this -- ...add to the end of the template code, making sure it starts on the same line as the code's last character?  Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 11:04, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * There is nothing wrong with Template:Thomas Dixon Jr.. I guess you usually use a tool to add categories to articles. HotCat and maybe other tools are disabled in template pages because categories are by default also added to pages using the template. This can be avoided by placing the category code in  as shown above. Adding  to the bottom of the wikitext is the standard method to add categories to any page. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:04, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * That's it. Thanks. I didn't know Hotcat was disabled for templates. deisenbe (talk) 12:19, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * There is nothing wrong with Template:Thomas Dixon Jr.. I guess you usually use a tool to add categories to articles. HotCat and maybe other tools are disabled in template pages because categories are by default also added to pages using the template. This can be avoided by placing the category code in  as shown above. Adding  to the bottom of the wikitext is the standard method to add categories to any page. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:04, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * That's it. Thanks. I didn't know Hotcat was disabled for templates. deisenbe (talk) 12:19, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

I want to rename the "To Love-Ru" page to "To Love Ru".
Relevant page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Love-Ru. The official English title of the series has always been To Love Ru. This is true for both the anime and the manga. It has NEVER used the hyphen between "Love" and "Ru", so I wanted to change its page to reflect that. I was stopped by the system, though, because apparently the page is a common victim of vandalism, which is understandable. It then sent me here to submit a request, so here I am.

Sources: — Preceding unsigned comment added by SUPER7X (talk • contribs) 06:49, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Official anime licensee, Sentai Filmworks website: https://www.sentaifilmworks.com/catalog/to-love-ru
 * Official manga licensee, Seven Seas To Love Ru website: https://sevenseasentertainment.com/series/to-love-ru/
 * Official manga licensee, Seven Seas To Love Ru Darkness website: https://sevenseasentertainment.com/series/to-love-ru-darkness/


 * I was going to move it for you, but the problem is that many of the references in the article include the hyphen. Perhaps you should continue the 12-year-old discussion on the talk page and obtain consensus before making the move.   Dbfi<i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  07:00, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response. So I had seen the talk page, but no one had used it in multiple years, so I didn't know if that would actually be helpful. I have added my position to it now, though, as instructed, in hopes that it does lead to some consensus. Additionally, to respond to your point about many references calling it "To Love-Ru" with the hyphen: yes, while the many of the references do refer to it as "To Love-Ru", they're all outdated. I counted, and of the 35 references, 23 refer to the series as "To Love-Ru". However, the source for 15 of these 23 references is Anime News Network, and if you go to ANN's current page for To Love Ru (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/manga.php?id=7949), guess what they call it?: "To Love Ru" without the hyphen. They didn't go back and retroactively change all of their headlines, but ANN has certainly accepted the official English title. The same can be said for another respectable anime site: Crunchyroll. While only 2/35 references are from there, it's one of the biggest anime sites out there, and if you go to Crunchyroll's current page for To Love Ru Darkness (https://www.crunchyroll.com/to-love-ru-darkness), it also no longer uses the hyphen in the title. Another 4 references are actually Japanese articles (which, just for reference, don't use the hyphen either) that have translated titles, so the person who entered them as references at the time simply inserted the hyphen themselves. The last 2 of 35 entries which still would support using the hyphen are 1 each from blogs THEM Anime Reviews and Siliconera, and not to knock the 2 blogs, but they can hardly be considered official sources when it comes to names. Is that a convincing enough argument? Should I add that to my talk page post?

Also, it's probably obvious by my previous lack of a signature, but I'm quite new at Wikipedia, so I don't fully understand everything. On said talk page, there are multiple threads that are just completely irrelevant now because time has passed or because the page went on to be edited (not by me) in such a way that the conservation just doesn't matter anymore. I was reading Wikipedia's talk page guide, but I still don't fully understand. Is the only way for these threads to eventually be erased to request they be closed and wait for an "uninvolved editor or admin", or is there some way I can just delete them because they are objectively no longer relevant? Thanks for your help so far. --SUPER7X (talk) 08:09, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Do not delete content on article Talk pages. It is all considered valid history, even if outdated or wrong. Talk pages to get archived if too long. David notMD (talk) 13:57, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Follow-up to Please review this draft.
Hi Teahouse! Sorry I have not been on for the past couple weeks, been busy with the fourth of july, but i am ready to dive back in. If you could please review the draft - Draft:Continental Express, Inc. I have went back through and changed any promotional wording in the article and added an additional source. Please let me know what else I can do! Thank you Scotty B 11 (talk) 07:30, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, . If you have made changes to Draft:Continental Express, Inc., and you wish it to be reviewed again, then you need to pick the "submit your draft for review" button, and wait for a reviewer to get to it (which might take some weeks). But before you do that, you need to find some independent sources for the company. Wikipedia has basically no interest in what a company says about itself, whether in its own publications, or in interviews or press releases. On a quick look through the references in your draft, I do not see a single case where somebody wholly unconnected with the company has chosen to publish about it at some depth: all the sources which are not Continental Express's own are plainly based on interviews or press releases. Unless there are such independent sources, then the company does not currenly meet the criteria for notability, and it will be a waste of everybody's time submitting a draft for review, no matter how it is written. --ColinFine (talk) 08:56, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * - A good rule of thumb - don't include anything that you can only find on the company's website. If the info isn't covered in the press, it's not notable. If little can be independently sourced, that tells you the entity isn't notable enough for an article. I would also shorten the history to include just the most important items. Without better sourcing it's going to be be seen as promotional. Beyond that, you want to use the infobox template instead of creating a table. See Template:Infobox company. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:14, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Wiki page "reads like advertisement"...
I've tried editing and re-editing my article, but it still gets denied for sounding too much like an advert. I even copied the format from a different page of essentially the same article and it just gets denied again. Can someone help me edit my article so It can get approved? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:New_Hampshire_Wolves_Hurling_Club — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allusivereaper7 (talk • contribs) 14:04, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, and welcome to the Teahouse. I think I understand what the concerns are-- the writing style is more narrative/storytelling rather than encyclopedic in nature. what Would you mind if I made some edits to the draft myself to address the concerns related to the promotional language? <b style="font-family:Garamond; color:green">I JethroBT</b> drop me a line 14:33, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I would very much appreciate it.
 * I've made some edits to the article to remove the promotional language, but there are some issues with some of the sourcing in the article-- the use of a self-published source, such as a Blogspot website, is usually not sufficient to support article content. Also, one of the sources didn't seem clearly related to the topic:
 * This appears to be an book about English-language learning, not about hurling or this club. Finally, there is one source sourced to a podcast RSS feed, but it should more specifically point to the page with the podcast episode where the claim appears. <b style="font-family:Garamond; color:green">I JethroBT</b> drop me a line 15:44, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The book cited, is an English as a second language book, there is a page and a classroom activity about the team from its origin and talking about what the team means to the hurling community. I changed the RSS feed to just one of the pages with the podcast. And if the other references can't be used because its from a self-published source I'll just remove the cites there.
 * I must confess, I am finding myself to be somewhat mildly confused by the sentence "They are N.H.’s first American-born hurling club." What exactly is it that that sentence is supposed to mean? Is it supposed to mean that they were the first hurling club born in America, or is perhaps membership limited to persons born in America? StewBrewer (talk) 16:57, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note, It is supposed to mean they are NH's first hurling club that is all American-born hurlers. Other clubs and other divisions are for Irish-born and otherwise. Allusivereaper7 (talk) 18:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * And many thanks to you for your kindness in offering thanks to me for asking the question. StewBrewer (talk) 18:52, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I made some improvements, and added another source. It could probably use 2-3 more reliable sources, including some showing match results, since those are currently sourced with a blog. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:58, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The problem I've been having is the BostonGAA.com, the governing body, redirects you to "Follow the Thar An Trasnan blog for all match reports". the blog is written by the Public Relations Board Officer for the BostonGAA.Allusivereaper7 (talk) 18:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed it is a challenge. Judged by the coverage, the notability comes more from their origin story than the actual matches. I would trim minor match results that don't get coverage. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:45, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed it is a challenge. Judged by the coverage, the notability comes more from their origin story than the actual matches. I would trim minor match results that don't get coverage. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:45, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Artist has not disclosed full name
Hi. I'm currently drafting a bibliography on a musician that has chosen only to reveal their stage name and first name. How do I correctly write the opening sentence (without a full name in this instance)? <b style="color:#FA0">HeyitsBen</b>(<b style="color:#F00">talk</b>) 18:08, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * If you write an article, be prepared that someone will likely find the artist's real name and post it in the article. Until then, you can say

[Pseudonym] is the stage name of a [insert type/description] musician who hasn't publicly revealed his (her?) real name.
 * You might also consider that anyone whose name isn't known, short of extreme cases like Banksy or the founder of Bitcoin, it's unlikely they will be considered notable enough. It's just too hard to perform and not be exposed in today's social media era.<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. That makes sense :) Where in the sentence or paragraph would I put the first name (if necessary), birth date and pronunciation of stagename? Is what I have written at Draft:Mxmtoon correct? <b style="color:#FA0">HeyitsBen</b>(<b style="color:#F00">talk</b>) 19:14, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Moving new discussion re:notability of subject to user's talk page. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the invitation to the Teahouse
I don't have a question actually, though I'm sure I will have many in the future. I simply wanted to thank you for the most gracious and welcoming invitation to ask questions. StewBrewer (talk) 12:18, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Good luck with your editing! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:03, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I was wondering if there is perchance a location where can I find a complete and comprehensive listing of the things that need to be done on Wikipedia? Or is that information perhaps scattered about, so that in the fullness of acquiring experience here one becomes familiar with its localities, as when relocating to a new city and becoming familiar with its streets and corners, restaurants, venues, and attractions? StewBrewer (talk) 20:52, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * , it's a good question. I find it to be a continual scavenger hunt. You might find the Editor's Index helpful, when search fails you.  Schazjmd   (talk)  21:02, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * And thank you,, for your exceptional kindness in this. StewBrewer (talk) 21:44, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Make my Wikipedia profile professionally
Please tell me that how can i make my Wikipedia profile professionally? — Preceding unsigned comment added by তন্ময় সিংহ রায় (talk • contribs) 18:36, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a venue for promotion or for posting profiles. You can read WP:YFA and WP:AUTO for what is needed to create an article and guidance on writing about yourself (it is strongly suggested you do not write about yourself).  RudolfRed (talk) 18:48, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi there Tanmoy. You appear to have attempted to write an encyclopaedia entry about yourself in Bengali, and to promote your writing. Firstly, it's never a good idea to include your personal email address, and your userpage is only there for you to say a few words about yourself and your interests in editing Wikipedia. So please don't list all the things you have written or published. Google doesn't index user pages, so no-one will see it. If you aren't interested in helping to improve this encyclopaedia in English, then to promote yourself professionally, you may find that websites like LinkedIn are more appropriate. But because you are bilingual, there may be many opportunities for you to help to improve encyclopaedia articles here, based on sources you can access and understand better than many others. If that interests you, or if you need any further help, feel free to ask, and do stick to writing in English on English Wikipedia, please. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:18, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * If you want to read about what the above users are saying regarding your userpage, please take a look at WP:NOTSOCIAL. Thanks. <b style="color:#556B2F">William2001</b>(<b style="color:#008080">talk</b>) 22:25, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Add a hyphen please...
Could you please add a hyphen to this person's name Draft:Susan Aaron Taylor. It should be Susan Aaron-Taylor. I created a draft article for her but left out the hyphen. Thank you! LorriBrown (talk) 23:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅  Whispering ( t ) 23:37, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Disruptive edits
I have looked at the Administrative Page, as well as the "Disruptive Editing" page, and can't quite figure out where to go. We have an editor disregarding discussion, doing Original Research, making massive edits and undoing attempts to correct hi/her mistakes. Editors have tried to get him/her to participate on the subject Talk Page, and I have posted on the editor's personal Talk Page; but the behavior continues unabated, with no regard for other editors or Wikipedia policy regarding sources. To whom do I go now to rein this person in, either by suspension or banning (assuming persuasion continues to be of no avail). Thanks.--Daveler16 (talk) 02:45, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi! I have often bounced pages to pages not knowing the appropriate place to report things as well. For your case, since you don't mention page or user (probably the right approach), I suggest first visiting the page WP:AN3 and reading some reports that are in consideration there. If your case is sufficiently more general/broad than just those that are discussed there, you can create a report at WP:ANI instead. Give them both a look. Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 04:10, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Looks like just what I need.--Daveler16 (talk) 02:17, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Sici Hollow, South Dakota
Hello, I have visited the Sici Hollow park many times.

This is the correct spelling, "Sici" - and all of the park signs, produced by the State of South Dakota, use this spelling (not the alternative spelling of "Sieche" -- although this spelling helps with the pronunciation). Jean Nicollet, when he visited, determined, and from his map of the area, that the Minnesota River source began from this park area. He also used the spelling, "Sici." Samuel Brown, son of Joseph R. Brown and Susan Freniere Brown, was born at this significant location.

Thank you, Corinne L. Monjeau-Marz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.168.97.71 (talk) 21:44, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Their website use "Sica": . Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:03, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Google results for "Sica Hollow" number 11,600, while Google results for "Sici Hollow" number 120.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:14, 10 July 2019 (UTC)


 * All of the park signs? Really? See the road sign at the park's eastern boundary in Google Maps, street view: 'Entering Sica Hollow State Park free area.' Isn't that one produced by the State of South Dakota...? --CiaPan (talk) 08:56, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Editing Aylesford Priory's article
Hi there,

I've never changed anything on Wikipedia before and recently I tried to tidy up and bulk up the Aylesford Priory page. I do work for the company and I did quite a bit of editing. I have noticed now that lots of it has been taken back off including all of the extra pitcures and writing I did. Could you please help me understand what I have done wrong please so I can sort it for the future.

Thank you for your help.

Kelly — Preceding unsigned comment added by NewsletterTheFriars (talk • contribs) 09:14, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * This page has information on which edits were made and why. If there is no explanation, you can ask the user who made the edit on their talk page, or make a general query on the article's talk page.


 * In this particular case, it was a WP:COPYVIO issue meaning that you had copy-pasted texts and/or images from another website. Read the linked page for details on why it is not allowed. You have made one other troubling revelation on that history page that probably went unaddressed. You should not be editing pages directly if you have a conflict of interest. It's better to suggest edits on the talk page instead. See WP:COI on how to handle your conflict of interest. See WP:ER on when and how to make edit requests. Good luck! Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 09:34, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It appears you have received messages on your talk page regarding both the deletion of edits due to copyvio and your conflict of interest management. I suggest you read those messages with care and click on the blue links to go to pages that have more details on issues that might not immediately be clear from the message itself. Good luck! Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 09:39, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You're not going to like this, but I'm afraid I have to mention another issue that you no doubt weren't aware of. It relates to your username which, unfortunately, suggests that the account is open for more than one person to access. This is against our policy (we require one person-one account), but there is a very easy remedy. If I could ask you simply to cease using that account from now on and to create another free account with a better, less promotional name that is only used by yourself, that would be perfect. So, for example, User:FriaryFrancis or User:NewsletterClare would be absolutely OK. You could then add a note to the old account stating that it has been abandoned, and link to your new account name, resolving never to use the old one again. Then you can carry on editing with the new account, and we'll be delighted to assist you in understanding any of our seemingly complicated guidelines, and we hope you continue to contribute to Wikipedia. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:02, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Nick, you have the soul of a poet. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:44, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Vogon poetry, I assume? Nick Moyes (talk) 12:41, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * 42what? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:50, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

article rejected - where do i find it?
Hi,

I have had an article rejected. How do I find where it is so that I can make changes? Also, it was rejected for PROMO reasons so is there any way I can get advice on what parts to remove/tone down?

Thanks

Craig — Preceding unsigned comment added by Craig-SG-Wright (talk • contribs) 06:59, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Do you mean Draft:Paligo? Click the "Contributions" link if its at the top right corner of your wikipedia window, or the "contrib" in parenthesis in the signature generated by bot on your comment above, and you can see a history of everything you've ever worked on, however minor. Good luck! Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 07:08, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I am reasonably sure it's Draft:Paligo now. "Paligo" is blue on the header of that message that you received on yout talk page. That means you can click on it and get to the article. More important than Promo, it failed notability. You have been advised to see WP:NORG. In short, it means it wasn't referenced with independent third party sources that would establish the fact that the organisation has been noticed and substantially covered by independent secondary sources which are reliable and credible. I suggest you find a few WP:RS to support your article first. When that's been done, we can know for sure that that article deserves to be in Wikipedia. After that removing promotional language is a minor issue and anyone here will be able to help with it. Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 07:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse, . Your draft starts by saying "Paligo is a cloud-based Component Content Management System (CCMS) designed for technical communication. It allows technical writers to create and manage structured content at a modular level and produce a wide range of outputs from the same source content. These include HTML5 help centres and PDFs." I cannot possibly convey to you how vapid and devoid of useful encyclopedic content that reads to actual experienced encyclopedia editors. When I try to decode that marketing talk, I conclude that it is a text editing or word processing program like those that were common in the 1970s or 1980s. Why should we possibly have an encyclopedia article about a topic like that? Your draft as currently written does not contribute useful content to the encyclopedia and should be completely rewritten to indicate why this particular startup means something. That effort must summarize what actually reliable and actually independent sources say about the topic. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  07:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You've given some disclosures on your userpage, so you have some degree of conflict of interest. If Paligo paid you to write this draft article, please add the connected contributor (paid) template to the draft article's talk page. If you weren't paid, please use the connected contributor template instead.
 * Also, two of the sources that you cited articles that you have written, hosted on your own company's website. This is a less-than-ideal case of WP:SELFCITE. Also, the content is largely an interview with a key person involved with this company, making it a primary source. Significant coverage from independent sources are required for a company to be considered notable enough for inclusion. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:46, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Finding Edits Quickly
Hello!

I am new here and working on finding pages that I can help improve. Is there a way to find pages that need corrections quickly? Or should I just continue to browse around pages I am interested in until I find something that I can edit?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bekalarson (talk • contribs) 13:52, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Be aware that your edit to Communication studies was reverted because the reference you added was a blog - not considered a reliable source. David notMD (talk) 14:28, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * As was relayed to me in answer to much the same question earlier on the page, "You might find the Editor's Index helpful." StewBrewer (talk) 14:31, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You might also enjoy checking out WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors . <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:13, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Proper term for native americans?
Is there an official WP policy on the proper generic name for the native peoples of America? Besides "Indian", I have seen native, native american, amerindian and others. I ask because I reverted a change today where someone substituted "Native" for "Indian" because it broke a link, but it started me wondering. ubiquity (talk) 15:12, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, none of those are obviously "wrong", but I don't know of any guidance on this, apart from WP:COMMONNAME which may not help much. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethnic groups? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:23, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * We tend to be very US-centric here, but you have many other options to choose from. A quick read will show you what's more commonly done for each case.  See the Native American disambiguation page, and Native Americans in the United States. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:17, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You may find some help on List of indigenous peoples. If you find the country in question, follow the link to the various pages, and see what their titles are. That may help, as the titles of pages should reflect established consensus. Desertborn (talk) 21:03, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Non-neutral Titles of Articles
I have found an article that uses an opponent's somewhat disparaging term, rather than some neutral term. Should I tell people on the talk page, and then rename the article? PhilLiberty (talk) 20:49, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's how you do it. Propose on the talk page and build consensus. For that particular topic, especially. Please remember to back your arguments with sources though. That topic should have a fair few active editors on both sides, so it's also a good idea to check and see if the issue has been discussed in the page's talk page.
 * And as I am typing this, you have blanked the article and created a circular redirect. Not cool! You reap what you sow. Not gonna say more. Good luck! Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 21:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Going to write a page any one help..
Title "Madhan" Actor, director — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki edit leader (talk • contribs) 21:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Read WP:YFA very very carefully. Then, start by collecting a few good sources to meet the WP:NACTOR requirement. Sources should be reliable and independent. Happy editing! Usedtobecool  ✉️ ✨ 21:20, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Policy regarding listing awards and honors of individuals
Does there exist a particular policy regarding how many and where the awards or honors of an individual should be listed given that all of them are well sourced? The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 19:47, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of formal policy, but there is a failed proposal that might help, since it's the closest thing to a guideline that I could find. See Notability (awards). Context is important too.  A new article draft full of middling industry-specific awards will likely get rejected, particularly if the award giver is known as pay-for-play. My rule of thumb is that if the only Google coverage of an award is press releases by the recipients, chances are it's not notable. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  22:45, 10 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Fair enough thank you. The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 23:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Ishq Aaj Kal web series stub article added contribution
Have done 3 things:
 * 1) Redirected Page
 * 2) Added Infobox Television
 * 3) Added Episodes List

Kindly review & let me know your feedback.

VKG1985 (talk) 07:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Is there?
Hi all from the Argentine, is there on here a section for upcoming news like on the Spanish Wiki? Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoryGlee (talk • contribs) 21:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you're asking for. Is it WP:In_the_news/Candidates?  RudolfRed (talk) 21:57, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and welcome to English Wikipedia. I also find it hard to answer your question because I don't know what type of 'upcoming news' is provided on Spanish Wikipedia. has already mentioned our a real-world news slot called 'In the News' on our Main Page, but there are also a number of Wikipedia-related newsletters available. You can find these listed at News, amongst the most well-known being our Adminstrators' Newsletter and The Signpost - though the latter is a retrospective summary of recent events on Wikipedia (and which, interestingly enough, had some rather controversial content deleted recently). Wikimedia produces its own Technical Newsletter of up-coming changes to the software, bug-fixes and development (see here). A small number of current topical issues are brought together at Centralized discussion, with the full range of current topical discussions available to view at our Dashboard.
 * Finally, in researching this answer for you, I even learnt we have other newsletters I wasn't aware of, including Goings-on and the related |Wikimedia Goings-on. We also used to have a schedule of forthcoming editathons at the bottom of the WP:EDITATHON page, but this appears to no longer be updated. Instead, various 'meetups' or gatherings of Wikipedians around the world can be found at Meetup/Calendar. I do hope that between us we've given you the answer to your question. Perhaps you would let us all know the kind of upcoming news that you are kept informed about on Spanish Wikipedia? Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:02, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

and thanks both yours Sirs for welcoming me you're welcome in the Spanish Wiki. I mean, Mike Pompeo will arrive in Argentina in June 19 and there will be a important joint declaration regarding Iran and Hezbollah. Is there upcoming news? Hope to be clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoryGlee (talk • contribs)
 * I'm sorry, I am afraid you are still not clear. Wikipedia does not report or speculate on future events or declarations unless those events have already been reported by Reliable Sources. What do you mean by: "Is there upcoming news?"? I do not understand what you are wanting to achieve. If you made all three of these edits (two from an IP address) then you appear to have correctly requested an edit change to the page on Hezbollah. You will now have to wait for that source to be assessed and a judgement made as to whether its contents are relevant to the article. I apologise for not being able to help you much more than that. (Please remember to sign your posts with four keyboard tildes (like this: ), or notifications do not work. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:11, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * We do have an article section 2019. If you link the Spanish page then we can see what you refer to instead of speculating. I don't know whether it's a sourced article for readers, an unsourced speculative article we wouldn't allow in the English Wikipedia, a project page for editors to prepare work on expected stories, or something else. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:08, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Can't log in and getting conflicting error messages
I haven't logged into Wikipedia in so long I'm not 100% sure what my username is any more. I tried the most likely one but it said the password didn't match. So I asked it for a password reset and when I entered the username and my email address it reported "There is no email address recorded for user...". So I figured I might as well just create a new account using that username since it clearly doesn't exist yet, but when I tried to do so it told me "Username entered already in use. Please choose a different name".

How can the username already be in use but have no email address recorded for it?

Regards, Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.247.252 (talk) 07:46, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * An account can exist and be used without attaching an email address to it, as an email address is not required to create an account(though it is necessary for a password reset, and other things). You may have to create an account with a different username. 331dot (talk) 07:51, 11 July 2019 (UTC)


 * If you can't remember your username but you remember what edits you have made in the past, check the history pages of those articles to find one of your edits which will show the username.--Shantavira|feed me 09:27, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Editing of Title
How to edit/correct the title of the page/article ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanmay Subhedar (talk • contribs) 09:33, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, . Welcome to the Teahouse. Minor corrections can be made by 'moving' an article to a new title (see Moving a page), leaving a 'redirect' behind for anyone still searching on the old name. Because some moves may be fiercely contested, it's often best to discuss the matter and your reasoning on the article talk page first in order to gain consensus. But see also Requested moves for lodging a request to re-title an article. Hope this helps. Oh, and do try to remember to sign your posts with four keyboard tildes (like this: ). Regards,  Nick Moyes (talk) 14:01, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

help for a new editor to establish notability at Draft:Vito Bongiorno
Hello, could the volunteers kindly assist the editor who has posted a request for help at Reference_desk/Humanities? Over at the Ref Desk we are better at finding sources than other kinds of help, but it seems the new editor already has sources, so I am not sure what next steps they need to take. Hopefully one of you can come over and show them what's next. Thank you kindly. 70.67.193.176 (talk) 15:27, 11 July 2019 (UTC)