Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 995

About editing
What Is editing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferret The Secomd (talk • contribs) 21:08, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. Editing is changing how an article looks. Editing is done by clicking the “edit” button on any page, seeing the Wiki markup, changing the text, and submitting changes. You can edit anything as long as the page you want to edit is not protected. LPS and MLP Fan (LittlestPetShop) (MyLittlePony) 21:31, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * , try The Wikipedia Adventure to quickly learn the basics of editing Wikipedia. Schazjmd   (talk)  21:39, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Redirection Page?
Hello! I'm wondering how to create a redirection page for New Chicago, Montana (I want to redirect West Chicago, Montana) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.175.177.14 (talk) 22:27, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, welcome to the Teahouse! You need to create an account (and become Autoconfirmed) to create redirects, which are just a page with special code on them. I've created the West Chicago, Montana redirect for you. If there's any more redirects you want created, you can ask at Articles for creation/Redirects and categories. Eman  235 / talk  22:46, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

HACCM Hellenic-American Cultural Center and Museum of Oregon & SW Washington
This museum is not listed in the "List of museums in Portland, Oregon" or List of museums in Oregon". How can I get the Hellenic-American Cultural Center & Msueum of Oregon & SW Washington added to these lists?

Thank you, Elizabeth Franklin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C2:5202:5640:D133:4A28:E099:A4B1 (talk) 00:02, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. List articles like that should only contain links to actual Wikipedia articles, so there would first need to be an article about the museum in order for it to be added to a list article.  The museum would merit an article if it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable organization, written at WP:ORG, as shown with independent reliable sources with in depth coverage. If you represent the museum, you will need to review conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 00:21, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Article Writing
How many days does Wikipedia take to approve a fresh article page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nnadigoodluck (talk • contribs) 00:13, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I assume that you are talking about submitting drafts using Articles for Creation. As all work on Wikipedia is done by volunteers, there is no set timeframe for a review. There are usually several thousand drafts awaiting review, and reviews are not done in any particular order. It could be done in ten minutes, or four months from now.  Typically, it takes several weeks at a minimum.  If you submit a draft, you will need to be patient. 331dot (talk) 00:17, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for the quick response. Looking forward to learn more as times goes by. Nnadigoodluck (talk) 00:37, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Pictures
Even though I've had help, I'm still having trouble to put in the missing picture of Tekamah's downtown area. Can someone help me with this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaiser Wilhelm II (Germany is awesome) (talk • contribs) 23:30, 9 August 2019 (UTC)


 * You were trying to call up an image which doesn't exist. In this edit I've put it back to the existing image. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:04, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Want to add a new public figure that isn’t on here
I’ve been watching a football player who plays for Warrington town and I am wanting to know how to add him On the website for people to search I am a football agent who is looking to represent him just wondering how I would do that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Banksy1414 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikipedia. Please remember that this is an encyclopedia and not a venue for promotions.  If you still want to proceed, check out how to create an article at WP:YFA.  You will also need to follow the rules for conflict of interest and paid editing at WP:COI and WP:PAID  RudolfRed (talk) 21:26, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, User:Banksy1414. For a football agent, you certainly have a remarkable propensity for vandalizing articles on Wikipedia. Please proceed with caution in your future Wikipedia editing.--Quisqualis (talk) 04:02, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Web Page Showing Photo Approval Backlog?
One of the help pages on either Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons has an automatically updated datapoint that shows the length in days of the backlog of approving new Wikimedia Commons photos for use. Could someone please remind me where to find it? Thank you. – Kekki1978 talk 05:03, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I believe what you are looking for is here: []. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  18:48, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * That's it! Thank you. – Kekki1978 talk 04:15, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Archiving my old, deleted pages for laughs and memories
When I was nine years old, I decided to edit Wikipedia with an account named Chiicken. With this account, I made three pages that were speedily deleted. They were:
 * 12:09 AM
 * List of Yummy Stuff
 * Valley Rescue Mission Road

I haven't seen these pages in years, and I really want to save them as subpages of my userpage, under User:Geracruzcolusa/(page name) because I want to see my work from when I was nine and because I know I could get a kick out of them, particularly List of Yummy Stuff. I can't see the articles becasue I am not an administrator, so I am requesting that an administrator get the data for me. It would make me very happy. Geracruzcolusa (talk) 04:53, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You can ask for them to be restored to your user-subpages at Request for undeletion. – Ammarpad (talk)

Who invented the first airplane
✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biziwe (talk • contribs) 18:08, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The Teahouse is here to help editors wanting to create or improve the articles here, not to answer general knowledge questions. You really ought to be able to answer that one for yourself. That is, after all, what this encyclopaedia is for. Try reading: Airplane. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:25, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You can try asking such questions at Reference desk/Science or at Quora. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:53, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

How detailed should verification and (possibly conflicting) documentation of content go?
As I'm a newbie, I'm getting my feet wet by reviewing articles, primarily biographies found in Start-Class biography articles for people I have an interest in. Considering a wikipedia principle "someone should be able to verify any fact in any article using only published reliable sources," I selected for my first try in that direction: William Vesey, because I've done research for him for other reasons. In a quick look, I noted that the birth date differed from my sources; and the mention of "MA" (Massachusetts) and "state legislature" were suspicious - at that time, Massachusetts wasn't a state, and it didn't have a "legislature." The latter issue of contemporary place-names is likely a wikipedia style thing, which I haven't reviewed yet. Just mentioning things that caught my eye.

However, I've edited William Vesey to change his birth date, and provide two references in support (one is a "published" book of vital records). There are other "facts" in the article (paraphrases from the original references) for which other sources can be cited. Before I go any further with that review, I thought I better get some guidance. Maybe Start-Class biographies should be avoided by neophytes!

As I anticipate this isn't a one-off thing with that biography, and (being a newbie) I'm not sure what question(s) I should be asking:


 * As a neophyte, should I avoid Start-Class biographies?
 * To what extent should "facts" stated in articles and article references be individually researched and documented?
 * As an example, referencing a published book of vital records (there are a LOT of them)
 * doesn't address the subject specifically,
 * begins to look like original research,
 * but provides contradictory "facts,"
 * and casts doubt on the "reliability" of another source.


 * Has this question been answered elsewhere? If so, apologies for not finding it.
 * If not, is there a better forum in which to ask for this guidance?
 * If part of the answer is to discuss in on the article's talk page, is there a way to draw others into the Talk?

Thanks. Buckeye1971 (talk) 21:45, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * , thank you for your contributions to William Vesey, which seem fine to me. Start-class articles are an an ideal target for improvement, as they're about subject who have been acknowledged as worthy of an article, but the article has plenty of scope for improvement. But I do have a concern about the sources you cite – are they published works, as Wikipedia requires? Also, I've one minor comment. The sentence you changed now reads "Vesey was born[1][2] in Braintree, MA, in 1674, the son of William and Mary Vesey." References should follow the statements which they support, so it looks as if the references you added are in support of the claim that he was born. I assume that you meant them to follow the place or date of his birth, or his parentage. Maproom (talk) 06:54, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the info, . I moved the refs as recommended. I believe the references meet the "published" and "accessible" criteria. One is a book published in Randolph, Massachusetts, 1886, scanned and publicly viewable at HathiTrust. The other is a website biography of William Vesey at Trinity Wall Street.org,, the Trinity Church Official Website.

Deprecated use of "upright".
I was referring to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images and noticed the following warning:

But  alone, with no  ... is equivalent to  ; this usage is confusing and therefore deprecated.

Is this accurate? If it is, the warning should appear on more of the many pages that talk about.

--User-duck (talk) 10:57, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Reliable Sources
Is the Royal Society of Chemistry a reliable source? http://www.rsc.org/periodic-table/element/95/americium

Also, how do you add a source to the references section? Thanks! Ȝeſtikl (talk) 11:38, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Seems reliable to me. You need to read Help:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:43, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Although I and others always point to Help:Referencing for beginners, I actually think it's the worst help page we have here, as it's so long and off-putting for beginners. So here are some very basic instruction for inserting a new reference to an article that already has a section at its bottom headed "References":

Alternatively, in the Visual Editor, if you click the 'Cite' button it starts by offering to let you paste a url or ISBN number and attempts to automatically look up the reference details for you. Neither work perfectly, so manually checking and tweaking to get the best reference is always advisable. But being aware that you can add reference details from within either editing tool is something that's not really made terribly obvious in the Help page referred to above.
 * Every editor will inevitably be using one of our two editing tools ("Source Editor" or "Visual Editor") to add text. Both of these editing options have an obvious tools menu at the top of the page, albeit in slightly different positions.
 * When editing a page, just look for the button labelled "Cite".
 * Then position your cursor at the end of the factual statement in the article that you want to add a new reference to. Simply click the "Cite" button to reveal a box (or to select a simple template) into which you can enter all the author, title, date, publisher, url details, etc., etc. of your reference.
 * Each editing tool varies slightly in how they operate. In Source Editor (which you will have used for editing the Teahouse page) you do have to click "Cite" and then select a further Template button on the left hand side of the editing toolbar. This lets you choose the best template into which you paste your reference details, according to whether you're citing a journal, a book, a newspaper or a website. There's also a Preview button to let you see what your details will look like before you decide to click the "'Insert" button to add your reference into the page.

Be aware that, whilst the content of your reference is actually inserted after the factual statement you added to an article, the full reference text appears automatically at the bottom of the page in a section marked "References". All that appears "inline" within the article is a small number in square brackets at the end of the relevant sentence. This corresponds with the number that appears in the References section. So please don't try to add your references into that section .. it won't work like that!


 * From Teahouse follow-up:
 * To expand slightly on the above, in the "source editor", after you bring up one of the cite template windows, you'll see a button beside some fields (e.g. URL, ISBN), which is a good way to quickly fill out some of the fields. This means that you can put a value (like a URL copied from your browser) in the field, click the  button, and it will look up and fill in some of the fields for you (sometimes after a delay of up to 20 seconds). Most of the time, it does not correctly grab the date fields, but if it does, you may have to edit them to the correct format to agree with that used by other cites already in the article, per MOS:RETAIN. Use  to reveal the Date and other fields. Sometimes, the author fields are wrong/missing as well. Use  to see the result before it is inserted. Note (in case it's not obvious) that, before you bring up the cite template window, you have to position the cursor where you want the cite to appear, which should be immediately after the material you are citing (no space in between). This is Nick Moyes's explanation, not mine. Interstellarity (talk) 12:16, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks everyone! Ȝeſtikl (talk) 12:24, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Smithsonian website image
I know that the Smithsonian Institution allows its artworks to be photographed for Wikipedia, and it has a catalog of public domain images of artworks. What I want to do, however, is to use a biography image from the Smithsonian's website for a (deceased) person who worked for the institution within the last 50 years. Would that be public domain or would I have to make a fair use rationale? – Reidgreg (talk) 03:26, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * In relation to the webpage containing the image, the Smithsonian has this notice: This document is provided by the Smithsonian Institution Archives. We welcome you to use it for personal and educational uses. – Reidgreg (talk) 13:31, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. I searched the archives at Media copyright questions and found a satisfactory answer for my question (yes, it's PD) and an appropriate tag for the image upload. – Reidgreg (talk) 13:50, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Going from Draft to complete
Hi I've been working on a page for a good friend who's trying to share his profile with the media who are chasinghim for interviews about his latest documentary. He's keen to get the page into the public domain so how does that happen? The page is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tony_Sutorius Looking forward to your response KiwiMadMac 12:08, 10 August 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KiwiMadMac (talk • contribs)


 * You and your friend misunderstand the purpose of Wikipedia. It is an encyclopedia with articles on subjects which are already notable, rather than a social media site with profiles for promotion.  You also need to read about conflict of interest. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:17, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, all Wikipedia pages are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License so it is not possible for it to be public domain. Interstellarity (talk) 12:21, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The usual process is to submit the draft. Then, may take weeks to months for a review, and either accept or decline. However, in this instance, under unintended consequences, your posting your question here has led to a proposed Speedy deletion. You can contest that on the Talk page of the draft. If the draft stays, you should delete all that stuff about favorable reviews of his documentary films. David notMD (talk) 12:29, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * COI aside, It is at least likely the subject is notable. Usedtobecool  ✉ ✨ 12:34, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice and assistance . It's now 1 a.m. at my location so I'll work again on the article in about 10 hours or so to remove the promotional aspects and shift it to biographical.

Thanks again for your assistance KiwiMadMac 12:59, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Too late. Deleted as overly promotional. You can ask Jimfbleak, the deletor, for the content back. David notMD (talk) 14:00, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Using copyrighted pictures
I would like to use a publicity still that’s been copyrighted by a film production company. The same picture has been posted in other sites (IMDB, talent agency, etc). Would I be able to use the picture under Fair Use doctrine as long as it is properly attributable? Or do I need to go ahead and ask for permission from the copyright owner? Thank you. Jack.D.Tipper (talk) 19:16, 10 August 2019 (UTC)Jack.D.Tipper


 * only if the subject is dead. The fair use policy does not apply to a photo of a living person, because it is possible for a free one to be created. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:21, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Zoe Telford
I honestly do not know why my updates are constantly being discarded. I have attributed my sources. The page you keep reverting to has not been updated since 2014!!! That is a disservice to her and to Wikipedia's readers. Zoe Telford is one of the UK's most recognizable faces, as evidenced by her body of work. That you would claim that my updates "did not appear constructive" is subjective. They are not self-promoting. I am not being paid by anyone.

Why would you choose to publish a page that has not been updated since 2014? If there are subjective tones, then please let me know and I will be happy to change them. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack.D.Tipper (talk • contribs) 16:46, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy: Zoe Telford is the article. You are conducting an edit war (repeating additions after other editors removed the content you added), which will lead to you being temporarily blocked if you persist (see warning on your Talk page). The proper place to discuss changes is the Talk page of the article. From a quick look, much of what you added did not have references. Proper procedure is reference as you go, not add first, reference later. P.S. Before you started, there have been scores of edits to the article since 2014. David notMD (talk) 17:39, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The body of her worked stopped at 2013. Even the BLPs at the top of the page were last put there in 2014. All the other edits since then were only to update her filmography. And maybe before one is accused of engaging or engendering an “edit war”, one should be given the benefit of the doubt. Maybe one did not even know what an “edit war” was until it was mentioned. Instead of simply reverting all edits, which leaves the updating editor at a loss, it would have been better to leave CN notations. But I am thankful for those who took the time to help me instead of simply telling me off. Kindness makes a lot of difference. Thank you for your response. Jack.D.Tipper (talk) 19:37, 10 August 2019 (UTC)Jack.D.Tipper

?
What does “unambiguous advertising or promotion” for article deletion mean? It kind of makes no sense since it’s just describing a company or something else. Arthurfan828 (talk) 19:47, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello there. Please see this page for more information. More than likely it's an article that you created that was not neutral and/or a Conflict of interest. Thegooduser   Life Begins With a Smile :)  🍁 20:44, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

How do I handle likely sock vandals?
I'm gonna start with saying that I have no idea if I can post this here, or if I need to take it somewhere else. I couldn't find any topic restrictions anyway, so I'm assuming it's fine here. If it isn't though, I'd appreciate a link to somewhere I can ask this, if such a place exists.

Anyway, I rolled back a whole bunch of edits on Richard Braine (politician). All of the edits are in the same style, from several IPs (from what I can tell, this prevents me from reporting it at WP:SPI - it looks like it only applies to registered accounts, not an abusive IP user with a proxy/VPN). It didn't strike me until one of the recent edits that these are actually socks. At least one of the accounts also went over to an article referencing this one and vandalized Richard Braine's name in a style identical to several other edits.

I could probably report it to AIV, but I'm not sure how to, given the amount of IPs it involves, or if there's enough evidence to justify it.

What can I do about it? Just revert the edits, warn, and report them individually if they keep going? -- OliviaZoe0 ❤️  (She/her) (talk ) 20:30, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Please file a report at sockpuppet investigation Thegooduser   Life Begins With a Smile :)  🍁 20:47, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Greetings. Revert and warn editors who made vandalized edits. Increase the warning level for subsequent vandalized edits and report to WP:AIV after the final warning. Vandalized edits made by multiple editors in short period of time, then request for WP:RPP (page protection) - Richard Braine (politician) is applicable. You need to have evident of sock (in regardless IP(s) or registered users) to report them for WP:SPI. Hope this help. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 20:48, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * The page was actually just protected, so I guess it's fixed for now. Are the edits themselves evidence enough in this case? -- OliviaZoe0 ❤️  (She/her) (talk ) 21:08, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi I requested the page protection - see  HERE. I could not tell if the vandalized editors are SOCK or not from the edit history. Keep eye on the their contribution log and see if any pattern form. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 21:21, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Capital letters in Titles
Hello,

Why does this page say "jake Yip" and not capitalize the first letter of the name? The name tag is capitalized correctly. Thank you in advance for any help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Widlyianna (talk • contribs) 22:38, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Someone had placed lowercase at the top of the article, which displays the title as lowercase first letter. I've boldly removed it.  RudolfRed (talk) 22:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Much thanks Rudolf!

Armory3D wiki page
i have followed the wiki wizard, and hopefully clicked my way down the garden path on enough links tangent to the linear instruction set to have a reasonable draught ready for publishing.

this is the first page i have suggested that has the potential to grow much beyond stub status, and would like suggestions for any/all legwork that needs to be done to make this page the textbook example of how-to-wikipedia. thanks!~

Longpinkytoes (talk) 12:53, 9 August 2019 (UTC)


 * One thing you need to read is Help:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:58, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * - welcome to the Teahouse. To submit your draft for review, you need to paste at the top of it. However, on a quick glance it looks fairly unlikely to be accepted. There seems to be a lack of good quality, independent reliable sources of the kind that would establish notability, and none of the content has in-line references allowing a reviewer to see where it is sourced from. You would need to work on these points, at the very least, to have it accepted. Also, just in case you have any kind of conflict of interest or work for any company connected to this article, I recommend you check out WP:COI and WP:PAID. <i style="background-color: Blue; color:#FFE">Hug</i>syrup 12:59, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * - The OP had already submitted the draft for review before asking the question here. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * following the instructions in the wizard tells you to submit, then ask for peer review, and use the feedback to keep the edits rolling so that the page does not get discarded due to neglect during the remarkably long acceptance process - unless i was really unclear what the step-by-step instructions say. also unclear how the suggested sources are either not independent, or not published. also unclear what was said in the body of the article that needs referencing. ie. there is no x person said y thing about Armory statements. other things stated are links to existing wikipedia pages. so i guess i'm asking for some assistance understanding the assistance given so far :P


 * stating that Armory came bundled with Blender, and thus didn't require a standalone Blender install up until Blender2.8 could definitely use a reference. which i will find. and then add to the article so i can have a little number next to something. FWIW, clicking through to the Blender3D page using the link that i placed in the article, did a much better job of showing what kinds of things take a little number next to them than the link about WhatKindsOfThingsTakeANumberNextToThem
 * Longpinkytoes (talk) 13:13, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

This: Draft:Armory 3D is nowhere near having "...a reasonable draught ready for publishing." If a reviewer does look at it - which could happen any time (the review queue is not chronological) - it will be declined. Lean - fast - how to convert unconnected naked URLs into properly sited citations. David notMD (talk) 13:57, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * the wizard made it sound like at least 3 references were required for the article itself, not for text within the article
 * Longpinkytoes (talk) 14:15, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Better, but the only external link should be the Amory 3D website (which should NOT be a ref). Still naked URLs instead of proper reference format. David notMD (talk) 17:33, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * i appreciate you checking back so soon. i really didn't mean to sink most of the day into this, fixing wrong links takes ages...
 * Longpinkytoes (talk) 22:06, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

what is the (hypothetically) ideal source to quote for things that currently reside only on the manual page of a game engine's own website?

would IGN, Gamespot, or Metacritic be appropriate? Elsevier Science? SIGGRAPH? IEEE? who needs to publish the Armory man page before it's considered reliable?

Longpinkytoes (talk) 23:22, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Publishing new articles
When would I be able to publish a new article without creating a draft — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritz1409 (talk • contribs) 16:06, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * You won't be able to do that until your account is autoconfirmed, which will be in 4 days' time. Even then, I wouldn't advise that as a newcomer you try to create an article directly, because it would be at risk of deletion if not considered appropriate.  It is safer to create a draft and let AFC reviewers consider it. Further advice is at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:17, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * FYI to all: Ritz1409 has created four draft articles. As of this moment, none have been submitted to AfC. David notMD (talk) 00:53, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Please update
Cullman is wet and has been for many years — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.241.195.180 (talk) 03:09, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If you are referring to Cullman, Alabama, the article's main text relating to this issue is "For many years the Oktoberfest did not include alcohol because Cullman was dry, but starting in 2011 the Oktoberfest was able to offer beer." which implies the town has been "wet" for at least 8 years. If you have a published reliable source that contradicts this, please supply a link at the article's Talk page so that we can modify the text. Please note that the uncorroborated assertion of personal knowledge by an anonymous person on the internet is not sufficient for this purpose.
 * If you were referring to some other Cullman, and/or to another meaning of the term "wet", please explain further. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.123.24.56 (talk) 04:59, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Help
{Help me} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Godfreychuks (talk • contribs) 03:38, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * What did you need help with? Did you mean to post that on your user talk page with a second set of {curly brackets} so that it becomes a template? Ian.thomson (talk) 05:02, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Picture Rights
Hello,

Someone has given me permission to use a picture they took (as a fan) with a famous person. Someone else took the photo of them (the fan and famous person). My question is, if they give me permission to use the photo, is that who I need permission from or would the photographer need to give me rights? Also can the famous person give me rights to a photo someone else took of them (not at a public event) if they personally did not take the photo? Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Widlyianna (talk • contribs) 23:01, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * The copyright holder is normally the photographer unless they have legally assigned the rights to another individual or organisation. It would be simplest to ask the photographer to upload the photograph to Wikipedia Commons with the appropriate licence.   <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  06:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Autobiography
Hi I tried to publish an article about myself. I believe that I am notable and that a wikipedian would probably not mind cleaning the article up and publishing it. E6slidefilm (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:58, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * WP:Autobiography recommends against it. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:07, 10 August 2019 (UTC)


 * , you were mis-using your user page by making it look like an article. Your user page may be used to tell readers a little about yourself in the context of your editing here, and should be written in the first person.  Did you not read what you were told in April?  Please read WP:User pages.   <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  07:01, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Shawn Mendes
Senarita — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biziwe (talk • contribs) 08:03, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

'Senarita' song lyrics — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biziwe (talk • contribs) 08:06, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Welcome back to the Teahouse, . The Teahouse is a friendly place to learn about editing Wikipedia. Do you have a query about editing Wikipedia? Cordless Larry (talk) 08:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

How do I get to help with "Citations Needed" -
Hi, A few years back, one of the ways to help at Wikipedia was that you could go to the "Citations needed" page (?) and it would quickly send you a random sentence to a page that needed a citation, if you found it you added it and went on to the next random citation. I thought it was a LOT of fun to do as I love to search for references and obscure facts. Is this still an option??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msaantley (talk • contribs) 06:17, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse . I think you're remembering the Citation Hunt tool, which does look quite fun. You can find further things to help out with at section 3 of Community portal, to. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 08:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

No record of (20th century masters-the millennium collection; The best of Aerosmith?
I actually have a cd with this very title, yet your site has no record of? why? in the back, A Universal Music Company,released in 2007 at Geffen Records, 2220 Colorado Ave, Santa Monica, CA 90404 - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.33.114.228 (talk) 06:50, 11 August 2019 (UTC)


 * All you need to do is to find a WP:Reliable source that mentions the CD, then we will know that your CD is not a fake.  <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  06:54, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * —107.15.157.44 (talk) 07:29, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * It's slated in that review, but it does confirm the existence. It is different from the November 2007 "final studio album of their current contract with Sony" mentioned in the Aerosmith article, but it is only a rehashing of earlier tracks, so not of major importance.  <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  10:31, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * To which page do you suggest that mention of this CD should be added? - David Biddulph (talk) 10:08, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Most probably in the "Compilations" section of Aerosmith albums discography Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:44, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Upload of picture under fair-use
Hello, I want to upload this picture to en.wikipedia.org. I think that the terms of the General rationale are met: @1: According to cdn.climatechangenews.com it was part of the original draft of the IPCC assessment for policymakers. Presumed that this is true it is thereby of scientific interest: What do the scientists at the IPCC think about the topics? @2: As the picture bears no hint of the IPCC (let alone a proof) it has to be attributed to cdn.climatechangenews.com as publisher. But in either case, it was basically intended as an information for public use. @3 and @4: It is (or would be) only a very small part of the original IPCC report and would have no effect upon the potential market for or value of the original work. --Moreevo (talk) 10:32, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You question seems more suited for Media copyright questions. – Ammarpad (talk) 15:09, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

creating a article in hindi
hey guys help me

i want to create a existing article in different language (hindi) because there isn't any. guide, where can i find that oiption to create a page


 * Well, this is the English Wikipedia. You can write your article on the Hindi Wikipedia. Most users on the English Wikipedia are American or European, so they may not have much knowledge of Hindi. <b style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; background-color: #420a6fff; color: #e062d8ff;">LPS and MLP Fan</b> (LittlestPetShop) (MyLittlePony) 16:29, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

timestamp on watchlist
I am struggling to find how to add timestamp back on my watchlist, seems to have disappeared on me. Govvy (talk) 10:59, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . I believe the timestamp on watchlist page is not configurable and everything looks OK to me. If you're still experiencing the issue, please upload a screenshot of the issue. – Ammarpad (talk) 16:55, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

time line new pages
Hi,

I’ve made some contributions to several wiki pages on investing. Happy to do so. I’ve also created a new page: low-volatility investing. I’m just curious how the process works of new pages. It seems edits to existing pages take seconds and new pages takes weeks. Is that right?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by InvestorQuant (talk • contribs) 19:21, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. As noted in the submission box on the draft you created, there are over 4500 drafts waiting for review.  Reviews are conducted by volunteers in no particular order.  It could be done in ten minutes, or four months from now, there is no way to know.  It is best to count on several weeks at a mimimum; you will need to be patient. 331dot (talk) 19:35, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * It may make sense for this article to become a section of the existing article Low-volatility anomaly.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Need Help !! Want To Update Nathalie Hart Page
Hi,

I have some latest information regarding nathalie hart's career, personal life and new images.I want to change the following things on her page:

Two New Images from these links for her wiki page :

https://philnews.ph/2019/02/07/nathalie-hart-photo-baby/ https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=nathalie+hart+fhm&client=safari&hl=en-ph&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFo_WPw_rjAhWjUN4KHQr7DbEQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=375&bih=635#imgrc=qkYvW83bZRks3M

Career Information :

Nathalie hart started working with star cinema with 3 films since 2017 and Started working for viva films last 2018. She has set to make 8 more movies for the company Viva films.

Personal Life :

Nathalie hart was born in the Philippines. She is based in two cities which is Sydney and Manila. She has studied business management. Jewellery designing and a beauty course. Nathalie’s family is based in Australia. She has broken the news when she posted a picture of her daughter from An Indian partner. Nathalie postpone the wedding. She’s focusing on her films for 2019.

Please guide how can i do this on her wikipedia page without breaking any rules here.

Thanks

Two New Images from these links for her wiki page :
https://philnews.ph/2019/02/07/nathalie-hart-photo-baby/ https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=nathalie+hart+fhm&client=safari&hl=en-ph&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFo_WPw_rjAhWjUN4KHQr7DbEQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=375&bih=635#imgrc=qkYvW83bZRks3M

Career Information :
Nathalie hart started working with star cinema with 3 films since 2017 and Started working for viva films last 2018. She has set to make 8 more movies for the company Viva films.

Personal Life :
Nathalie hart was born in the Philippines. She is based in two cities which is Sydney and Manila. She has studied business management. Jewellery designing and a beauty course. Nathalie’s family is based in Australia. She has broken the news when she posted a picture of her daughter from An Indian partner. Nathalie postpone the wedding. She’s focusing on her films for 2019.

Nathalie Hart Page :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathalie_Hart

Please guide how can i do this on her wikipedia page without breaking any rules here. Thanks Ma2081992 (talk) 17:26, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I collapsed all the content you entered twice. The images are protected by copyright and cannot be added. The text content can be added to the article if you can include references from reliable published sources in support. You posted the same question on the Talk page of the Nathalie Hart article, which is the right place. Currently, the article states she is pregnant and planning a wedding, so if there is more recent information with citations, that is a valid change to the article. David notMD (talk) 20:40, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

I Want to Add my article
History Of Jammu Kashmir — Preceding unsigned comment added by Successprafulla (talk • contribs) 16:38, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * English-language Wikipedia already has an article History of Kashmir. You are welcome to improve that one, so long as you provide reliable references for what you add. But another article on the same subject will not be accepted. Maproom (talk) 20:27, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Also note that your editing history consists solely of carelessly adding links to the "flashkhabbar" website, and anything you further contribute to Wikipedia will be viewed with extreme suspicion.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:45, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Reusing an image from another wiki article
Hi, I'm in the process of improving a wikiarticle and would like to reuse an image contained in the information block located in the upper right of a different wikiarticle. I can't seem to download or copy the image. I can only edit the information contained in the block. The image is not located in wiki commons. It is an image of an album cover. Any suggestions? Fr33labour (talk) 17:41, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If you look at the wikicode (by entering the editing window) for the article containing the image, it should say something like filename.png

, this can simply be copied into the article that requires an image, with the caption being changed to suit the receiving article. The various parameters of the file are detailed at Help:Files; these control such things as size, caption, and alignment within the page.


 * There should be no need to download images, as any image on wikipedia can be used on any wikipedia article. (As they are stored on wikimedia commons, they can easily be used on any wikimedia foundation wiki)
 * Thanks,  OxonAlex    - talk  18:02, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, OxonAlex. Note that the OP has stated, "The image is not located in wiki commons."--Quisqualis (talk) 20:22, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * As an album cover the image will almost certainly be subject to fair use restrictions, thus it cannot be used on another page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If it is an album cover it has presumably been uploaded to Wikipedia under a non-free use rationale. That allows use only in the article specified in that NFUR. A separate NFUR would be needed for use on another page, but there are tight limits on the use of non-free content, see WP:NFCC. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:31, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks everyone for your sage advice! I had hoped it would be an easy solution, but it looks like there is a bit more effort required to secure the image. Fr33labour (talk) 02:32, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Writing a new biography
Minakshi ganguly

Hi, I'm wanting to write a new biographical wikiarticle. I will be writing it on an individual listed as needing a biography by the wiki project Women in Red. I'm concerned someone else has started a biography on the individual. Is there a way to see articles that are in progress so you don't end up wasting time by researching something someone else is already working on? Fr33labour (talk) 17:46, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello,
 * I'm assuming that "Women in Red" refers to women who's names are a redlink. You can tell if there is a draft article in progress for a redlink by clicking on it (e.g: Lulu Farini), and there will be a message, e.g:  "There is a draft for this article at Draft:Lulu Farini".   —2606:A000:1126:28D:8D66:6F1D:4D61:EC3D (talk) 18:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Women in Red is actually a Wikipedia project. Usedtobecool  ✉ ✨ 20:22, 11 August 2019 (UTC)


 * , here's what I do. First of all, search the subject on google with and without adding "Wikipedia" at the end. Google is the best at determining what the search is actually for and providing results by searching all variations of the subject. For example, Wikipedia search may not yield results for a person who has an article under a substantially different variation of the name than the search term, but google does. Next, when the google search is negative, go to Special:Search in Wikipedia and search there. A search there is not as smart as google but you can search drafts and sandbox spaces which google doesn't search at all. When the search result loads, you'll see an advanced options bar below the search bar. Make sure you select at least the "User" and "Draft" spaces from there. Thusly, you can make sure there isn't already an article under a substantially different title (with google), nor there is an article under progress in User and Draft spaces (from Wikipedia search).
 * That's as much certainty as you can get. Having done your research and created the article, if you find out someone else has done the same, you have the option to merge the articles so that both your contributions are made use of and counted.
 * Alternatively, if you know what you are doing, you can create a one paragraph stub on the article space itself. That way, anyone else looking to work on the topic can easily find the place to lend a hand. This is not recommended unless you know well, the notability and sourcing requirements of Wikipedia, as well as some of the most common Wikipedia formatting codes. Good luck!  Usedtobecool  ✉ ✨ 20:22, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Great advice! Thanks to both of you for your input and technical support. Fr33labour (talk) 02:37, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

to leave
Redo spell and get away — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shayermyers (talk • contribs) 07:20, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikipedia! If there is a question you would like to ask, feel free, we are happy to help. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please &#123;&#123;ping&#125;&#125; me in replies) 07:34, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Question re: understanding remarks from Wikipedia
So, on my page: there are two important messages:

Submission declined. This appears to be a duplicate of another submission, McKelvy House, which is also waiting to be reviewed. To save time we will consider the other submission and not this one. If you would like to continue working on the submission, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window. If you have not resolved the issues listed above, your draft will be declined again and potentially deleted. If you need extra help, please ask us a question at the AfC Help Desk or get live help from experienced editors. Please do not remove reviewer comments or this notice until the submission is accepted. Where to get help How to improve your article Editor resources The reviewer(s) who declined this submission will be listed in the page history. Last edited by Citation bot 6 days ago. Reviewer: Inform author. This draft has been resubmitted and is currently awaiting re-review. AFC-Logo Decline.svg AFC-Logo.svg Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 8 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 4,569 pending submissions waiting for review.

If the submission is accepted, then this page will be moved into the article space. If the submission is declined, then the reason will be posted here. In the meantime, you can continue to improve this submission by editing normally. Where to get help How to improve your article Editor resources Reviewer tools

I am not sure which one to pay attention to... it has been over 8 weeks since the submission was made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tabassum Alam (talk • contribs) 03:12, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Tabassum Alam, the top one is the message that the draft was declined because it is a duplicate. The bottom one is a message to indicate that the draft has been submitted again anyway. The top one came from other editors who reviewed your submission and declined it. The bottom one is to notify reviewers that you want them to check the draft again because you think that you have addressed their concerns and believe it to be ready. As such, you are responsible for the bottom one, and if you did not intend to re-submit the draft after it was declined originally, you should edit the page to remove that one. Usedtobecool  ✉ ✨ 07:17, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If you blanked one of the drafts and/or requested deletion, it would remove all confusion (It seems one of the draft was declined as a duplicate because the other one looks easier to review; while the other one, although not submitted for review at all, has been judged by an editor to be an inferior version). As to how long it's been, in my experience, when a submission takes a long time, it means the draft is good (bad apples get almost immediately caught and thrown away) but needs additional work to get accepted. Another editor seems to have cleaned it up. My guess is it's taking too long because there's too many sources to review efficiently. What you can do is list three best sources that sufficiently establish the notability of the subject on the article's talk page. Alternatively, you could also trim all the content that isn't terribly relevant to the notability of the subject, while it's under review, and reinstate it from history once it's accepted. To summarise, better make a choice about which draft you want to submit, and blank the other one. Whichever you choose, better keep it down to a manageable size (or list three best sources on the talk page). Good luck! Usedtobecool  ✉ ✨ 07:37, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi! Is there a way to show just my edits that have been reverted?
Love, Verdana ♥ Bold 15:51, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse. One way to check if an edit you made was reverted, you can go to your contributions and open a diff of a page you edited. If the diff is not the page’s latest reversion, click the button that says “next edit”. You will then see who the editor who changed the page was and if your contribution was reverted or not. Forget about what I erased. Go to and search for your username. Go check your edit count. You will see how many “deleted contributions”, which are your reverted edits, you have. <b style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; background-color: #420a6fff; color: #e062d8ff;">LPS and MLP Fan</b> (LittlestPetShop) (MyLittlePony) 16:24, 11 August 2019 (UTC)


 * . Where in https://xtools.wmflabs.org are you looking at "deleted contributions".  In https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/ I believe that "deleted edits" are not those which have been reverted but edits made to pages which have subsequently deleted.  I assume you must be looking somewhere else in https://xtools.wmflabs.org ? - David Biddulph (talk) 16:44, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * , If there is, I haven't found it yet. You can however opt in for notification of every instance of your edits getting reverted, from "Notifications" tab at Special:Preferences. Usedtobecool  ✉ ✨ 07:48, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Need more help adding to Stephanie Andujar
Hey, I'm a big Fan of Stephanie Andujar, actress, singer and dancer. I been trying to update but keeps saying needs more verification and I've added sources but I'm not sure why it still says that. Can anyone help add more finding on Stephanie Andujar? Thank you for your help. -Shump — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shump64 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the Teahouse!
 * The tag doesn't go away automatically; somebody has to delete it manually -- if and only if there are sufficient references to reliable sources that are verifiable and independent of the subject.  This is especially important for biographies of living persons.  I'll leave it to somebody more qualified to decide if that is the case for the Stephanie Andujar article. —107.15.157.44 (talk) 04:28, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ref #1 is IMBd (Wikipedia don't like), ref #4 is an interview (Wikipedia don't like) and ref #5 is an interview that is no longer a working URL (Wikipedia don't like). Try to add more refs, but then leave removing the tag to another editor. David notMD (talk) 11:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, you have been editing since June 2015, but the only topic has been Stephanie Andujar. If you have any personal connection to SA, unpaid or paid, that should be declared on your User page. David notMD (talk) 14:53, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

How do I add a section to a Wikipedia article?
Can’t see how to do this, there doesn’t seem to be much information and I can’t understand what there is! — Preceding unsigned comment added by FRAS (talk • contribs) 06:29, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, first of all, try pressing Ctrl+2 and entering the section header. If that doesn't work for you:


 * In source edit, go to new line (by pressing "Enter" key), write the section header between two equal signs like this:.
 * In visual edit, with the cursor on the line that you want to be the section header, click on "Paragraph" on the editing toolbar and choose "Heading".
 * Once you have the section header, again go to new line (by pressing enter) and begin adding the content for that section. Good luck! Usedtobecool  ✉ ✨ 07:06, 12 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I don’t have a ‘Ctrl’ or an ‘editing toolbar’? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FRAS (talk • contribs) 13:05, 12 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, the "Ctrl" is on your keyboard at the bottom right corner. Click the "pencil icon" on the top right corner on the "menu bar" and you will see "source editing" and "visual editing" modes. Cheers.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 13:31, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

“the "Ctrl" is on your keyboard at the bottom right corner.” Well it might be on yours, but it certainly isn’t on my mine. All I have is ‘numbers’, ‘shift/caps lock’ and one that makes the keyboard disappear. “Click the "pencil icon" on the top right corner” if I do that then I only get to edit the final section of the existing article and creating a new section by tailing it on to the end is something you’re not meant to do! — Preceding unsigned comment added by FRAS (talk • contribs) 15:00, 12 August 2019 (UTC)


 * ... more likely to be bottom LEFT of the keyboard. You could click on the "Edit" at the top for the whole article, then choose where to put the new section (with == to make a header).  <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  15:02, 12 August 2019 (UTC)