Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2011 August 30



Template:Hadith authenticity

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 08:12, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hadith authenticity

Orphaned, unused, overly specific. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 23:57, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete overly specificCurb Chain (talk) 06:16, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * delete has only been used in fights, never for any constructive purpose William M. Connolley (talk) 10:28, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: I see value in this sort of cleanup tag. But to deal with the issue William M. Connolley points out, I would make it hidden -- useful only to the WikiProject. If this is not acceptable, then a relectant delete.CRGreathouse (t | c) 18:36, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per Manual of Style/Islam-related articles: "Articles on hadith should make clear the reliability of the hadith – if they don't, then consider adding Template:Hadith authenticity". Al-Andalusi (talk) 19:35, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete extremely specific and an abandoned orphan. Cheers! Meishern (talk) 17:11, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete way too specific. Use a talk page comment instead, or create a work list in wikiproject space. No need to have a specific cleanup template for this. Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:44, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:County roads in Minnesota

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:40, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * County roads in Minnesota

This navbox is used to link to various lists of county roads in Minnesota, but its function has been incorporated into infobox road and infobox state highway system through the MN-specific system links. (See County roads in Minnesota, County Road 81 (Hennepin County, Minnesota), etc.) The main county road article has all of the redlinks in it. The "notable routes" in the navbox are arbitrary and WP:ORish in selection, and the "Related" items appear at the bottom of the infobox.  Imzadi 1979  →   22:31, 30 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete red link farm. --Rschen7754 07:21, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Traditional beliefs

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:41, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Traditional beliefs

As is, the articles in this template do not relate to a single, coherent topic. How is the Indianapolis 500 related to Traditional Chinese characters? Furthermore, the article closest to the subject of this template, tradition, doesn't mention any of the articles in the template. Billhpike (talk) 21:42, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support I have previously noted the lack of coherence myself. The prescence of a single word in the title of some of the articles is not enough to think the topics are related. I had contacted the sole author on their usertalk page but received no reply: . Munci (talk) 22:15, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete test pageCurb Chain (talk) 06:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is an absolutely incoherent navbox. VanIsaacWS 04:44, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
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College baseball schedule templates

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:44, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * 2008 Vanderbilt Commodores baseball game log
 * 2009 Arkansas Razorbacks baseball game log
 * 2010 Arkansas Razorbacks baseball game log

As intended single-use templates, there's no reason for these to exist. I have substituted their content onto the target articles. Jweiss11 (talk) 21:36, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support as creator of two of these templates. As long as the content is substituted, deletion makes sense.  Brandonrush   Woo pig sooie  00:27, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Every word

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:46, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Every word
 * Every word0

Created years ago and unused. It uses expensive parser functions and it's not clear why we need it other than just as a demonstration to show that it's possible. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 21:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete The page states that it's experimental. It seems that the experiment was abandoned years ago. J IM ptalk·cont 23:32, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Wikibits.js
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikibits.js

Though this probably was useful at some point in time, it has no more usages and is unlikely to ever have some because Wikibits.js has become deprecated with the introduction of the ResourceLoader. The Evil IP address (talk) 20:47, 30 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - it's unused now, and I can't remember what I created it for or where I might have used it. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 20:51, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Talk page link
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:50, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Talk page link

Redundant to Talk as well. One usage on a user page. The Evil IP address (talk) 20:27, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Tk
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The result of the discussion was redirect Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:51, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Tk

Old template that's redundant to Talk, which has a better name and functionality. Few usages. The Evil IP address (talk) 20:25, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Talk per nominator. Albacore (talk) 16:32, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Redirect to talk per above. -- Σ  talk <sub style="margin-left:-3.2ex"> contribs  07:47, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Portal links
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The result of the discussion was redirect Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:36, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Portal links

Redundant to lp. The L* templates didn't exist back in 2005, so this template was created instead, but I'm sure the few usages can be replaced with lp. The Evil IP address (talk) 20:12, 30 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Template:Lp; although the template is redundant, the name of the template is an appropriate redirect name for lp. — mc10 ( t / c ) 04:04, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Location map polarx
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:37, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Location map polarx
 * Location map many polarx

I found these while cleaning up Category:ParserFunction errors. These templates are (1) unused, (2) not using a true polar map, which would use trig functions, and (3) now redundant to the standard location map and location map many templates. Once upon a time, this was probably very useful, since the series did not support general mappings. But, times have changed, and now the individual location maps can provide general equations for the projection uesd in the map (see location map Antarctica for example). Therefore, these special purpose templates for skewed and quadratic maps are no longer needed. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 17:07, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: Now just clutter. They were early attempts to solve a problem.&#32;– droll  &#91;chat&#93;  20:40, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Polar map
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:37, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Polar map
 * Polar map+
 * Polar map~
 * Polar map Antarctica
 * Polar map Arctic

Once upon a time, this was probably very useful, since the series did not support general mappings. But, times have changed, and now the individual location maps can provide general equations for the projection uesd in the map (see location map Antarctica for example). Therefore, these special purpose templates for polar maps are unused and no longer needed. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 17:12, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: No longer useful. Only of historic interest.&#32;– droll  &#91;chat&#93;  20:47, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Sisterlinks-author
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 02:32, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sisterlinks-author

Only used on two pages, should be easily replaceable there with Sister project links. The Evil IP address (talk) 13:57, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:WikiProject Hong Kong football
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:47, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Hong Kong football

Assessment of Hong Kong football task force articles has been taken over by Template:WikiProject Football. This template no longer has any use and all instances of it should be replaced with. – PeeJay 12:11, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. – PeeJay 12:17, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - The author of this template has now given permission for it to be deleted (see here) provided that an admin will help us to replace it with . – PeeJay 13:06, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * A bot may be useful. --The Evil IP address (talk) 20:49, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Unsigned9
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Unsigned9

Redundant "unsigned" template that also contains educational content. We should really restrict on saying who signed their content, educating people should happen via their talk page, i.e. using uw-sign. Furthermore, custom unsigned templates become rather useless, as bots are auto-signing almost all posts. Thus, if educating people is actually desired, it should happen in Unsigned. Despite seemingly many usages, most of them are in User information templates, the rest can be substituted. The Evil IP address (talk) 10:54, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, as basically redundant with no added value. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 17:22, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete a public propaganda template to sign postsCurb Chain (talk) 17:49, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete – Messages for signing a page belong on a user's talk page, not where the user fails to sign. — mc10 ( t / c ) 03:57, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Unsigned5
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 02:12, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Unsigned5

Unnecessary "unsigned" template. There's no need to add further user logs or a "block user" link just because a user didn't sign (usually because they didn't know how). Also, seeing that most comments are nowadays autosigned by bots, the sense of custom unsigned templates is unclear. Despite seemingly many usages, most come from User information templates, the rest can easily be substituted. The Evil IP address (talk) 10:16, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as basically redundant with no added value. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 17:23, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete – This template adds no further information that is absolutely necessary; accessing the talk and contributions of a user are usually enough in the case of them not signing a page. — mc10 ( t / c ) 03:59, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:MenLC2006WAKOSkopje
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The result of the discussion was Deleted per WP:G6. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:34, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * MenLC2006WAKOSkopje

Template not used, all articles that used it were deleted at Articles for deletion/Men's Light-Contact at W.A.K.O. European Championships 2006 Skopje +94 kg Mt  king <sup style="color:gold;"> (edits)  03:47, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete under CSD#G6, depending on deleted pages. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 17:24, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Reverse
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 02:16, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Reverse

Three days ago was listed for discussion. It became clear that the real issue was with of which  is just a subroutine.

is used in exactly one article. In this case it illustrates how the use of templates sometimes involves more code than plain text. The other "use" of the template, as noted by Rich Farmbrough, is "to document the limitations of the template system so that people do not spend valuable time going down the same dead-ends".

Do we want to keep useless templates just to show how useless templates can be? There's no easy answer (that I can think of). J IM ptalk·cont 01:46, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, the load time for this page is very high due to the expensive parser functions. If we want to create such examples, a subpage of a page in the WP namespace would suffice.  We don't need to encourage the use of such expensive and limited use templates in articlespace (we should deleted Template:Rhyming dictionary line as well). 198.102.153.2 (talk) 17:22, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete or Userfy, in general, such an example isn't useless, but this shouldn't be done in the article namespace. However, if the user wishes so, there should be no problem to move it into their userspace, or, if such a page exists or will be created, to a Wikipedia page that demonstrates the disadvantages of templates. --The Evil IP address (talk) 20:53, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * As I said in the reverse6 discussion, it's great that people want to experiment with what wikicode is capable of, but templates hosted on the English Wikipedia should have some obvious utility to the English Wikipedia. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 06:44, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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