Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2011 August 31



Template:Ascena

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 05:02, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ascena

WP:NENAN. Ascena owns only three stores. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 23:59, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:WikimediaClassicalMusic

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 05:01, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * WikimediaClassicalMusic

Redundant to Wikimedia for portals which should be used for consistency and to ease maintenance. The Evil IP address (talk) 19:59, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Template:WikipediaSister-header

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 03:58, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * WikipediaSister-header

Unused, doesn't appear to be necessary. The Evil IP address (talk) 19:55, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete This would be excessively large to be used anyway.Curb Chain (talk) 10:05, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unused templates need a strong case. This one doesn't have one. Lightmouse (talk) 17:06, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Belgian Province

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 05:05, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Infobox Belgian Province

Unused wrapper for infobox settlement (orphaned by Nero the second). 198.102.153.2 (talk) 18:47, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unused templates need a strong case. This one doesn't have one. Lightmouse (talk) 17:06, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect to Infobox Settlement; to discourage creation of a new, redundant template. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 12:37, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete not really a useful wrapper - few fields are constantly filled; parameters used don't seem like a purposely selected subset. Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:47, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Prefecture Japan

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The result of the discussion was Keep Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 05:22, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Infobox Prefecture Japan

Unused wrapper for infobox settlement (orphaned by Nero the second). 198.102.153.2 (talk) 18:45, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect to Infobox Settlement; to discourage creation of a new, redundant template. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 12:37, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep This wrapper seems useful, given that fields for transliteration etc. are hardcoded. I wouldn't have orphaned this one. Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Tambon
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 05:06, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Infobox Tambon

Unused wrapper for infobox settlement (orphaned by Nero the second). 198.102.153.2 (talk) 18:43, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect to Infobox Settlement; to discourage creation of a new, redundant template. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 12:37, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete not really a useful wrapper - few fields are constantly filled; parameters used don't seem like a purposely selected subset. Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:47, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Dutch Province
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 05:07, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Infobox Dutch Province

Unused wrapper for infobox settlement (orphaned by Nero the second). 198.102.153.2 (talk) 18:43, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect to Infobox Settlement; to discourage creation of a new, redundant template. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 12:37, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete not really a useful wrapper - few fields are constantly filled; parameters used don't seem like a purposely selected subset. Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:47, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Serbian district
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 05:08, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Infobox Serbian district

Unused wrapper for infobox settlement (orphaned by Nero the second). 198.102.153.2 (talk) 18:41, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect to Infobox Settlement; to discourage creation of a new, redundant template. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 12:37, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete not really a useful wrapper - few fields are constantly filled; parameters used don't seem like a purposely selected subset. Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:49, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:FormerFP
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:07, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * FormerFP

Now redundant to ArticleHistory, only usage removed. The Evil IP address (talk) 18:06, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Lightmouse (talk) 17:07, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:ExoticProgrammingLanguagesSeeAlso
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:05, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * ExoticProgrammingLanguagesSeeAlso

Orphaned template, created by a well-meaning editor trying to make "see also" links identical among multiple articles, rather than considering each link on a case-by-case basis per WP:SEEALSO. TJRC (talk) 17:34, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Quite. Article text substitution has its uses, but boilerplate content like this isn't one of them. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 08:44, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete It's an interesting template, and could be useful, but since it currently is unused, we should leave it as if it never existed.Curb Chain (talk) 10:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unused templates need a strong case. This one doesn't have one. Lightmouse (talk) 17:03, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * add'l comment from nom. I should probably mention I had a discussion with the template creator about this at the time, which can be viewed here.  The editor only edited for a short time, a couple days, and only with respect to this template; and seems to have moved on since, unfortunately. TJRC (talk) 17:12, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:FIFA Clubs of the 20th Century
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:03, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * FIFA Clubs of the 20th Century

After a brief discussion at WP:Footy (link here), it was considered not necessary as the list/ranking likely did not meet WP:GNG and the article where the lists is mentioned features little if any info. Digirami (talk) 15:41, 31 August 2011 (UTC) – HonorTheKing (talk) 15:09, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete — Not notable. --MicroX (talk) 20:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete — Non notable. -Koppapa (talk) 11:27, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - per above.
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Template:Unsigned7
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 02:14, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Unsigned7

Missed this "Unsigned" template yesterday somehow. I really don't know why all these links, especially "page moves" (which user who moves pages doesn't sign), "block user" and "block log" (not signing may be bad, but not that bad). Also, it's extremely huge and also teaches one to sign posts, which should be done on the user talk page. The Evil IP address (talk) 14:58, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Virtually unused anyway, and we don't need lots of those redundant templates. Ucucha (talk) 15:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete ridiculous and uselessCurb Chain (talk) 09:58, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting delete.svg Delete - We have too many, and the number of links it has is almost ridiculous. -- Σ  talk <sub style="margin-left:-3.2ex"> contribs  07:43, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Cleanup-London
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:15, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Cleanup-London

Overly specific ambox. cleanup now has a reason parameter. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:43, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete absolutely useless as it was overly specificCurb Chain (talk) 09:57, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Adds little value. Lightmouse (talk) 17:04, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Motions
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:53, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Motions

An unusual one here as I've orphaned it before taking it to TfD. This is a heavily overwrought sidebar system developed several years ago to deal with parliamentary procedures which was only ever used on a walled garden of similar articles. With the amount of conditional code it contained it was essentially a handful of different sidebars wrapped up in one template, and its transclusions on pages like list of motions were insane. I've replaced it with a simple list of entries where actually required (such as on the page I just mentioned) and removed it on others where it did nothing but duplicate the text that it sat beside. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 07:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, I switched it to use sidebar, but still delete it as way overengineered. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 19:32, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Sidebar heading
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:59, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sidebar heading

Trivial text substitution. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 07:12, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. No problem. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:32, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Lightmouse (talk) 17:05, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, and delete sidebar start and sidebar end along with it. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 19:31, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Remind me to keep on that should I forget, though I think a separate nomination should be used. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 17:19, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Sidebar with dividers
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:00, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sidebar with dividers

Exactly the same situation as with Template:Sidebar with heading backgrounds (link goes to TfD). Just an instance of sidebar with some of the values hardcoded. Using a sidebar directly allows for tranclusions to be more flexible and removes a level of indirection, with no change to output on any of the current uses. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 07:07, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete As long as dividers can be added to sidebar. Which is obviously possible-- RayqayzaDialgaWeird2210 will respond much more timely If you respond on his talkpage!    19:12, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, much as per the TfD for Sidebar with heading backgrounds. (Side question: do we really need all those notices on the pages where the templates appear? Could notices be put on talk pages of the articles instead?) --Tryptofish (talk) 20:34, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * If you wrapped it in a template other, you could make it only appear in template space. Since the transclusion of the tfd is going from  to  to article space, this would still show in more than one place, but wouldn't show in articles.
 * Delete, we can easily add "headingstyle = border: #aaa 1px solid", etc. to each template calling this one. There are not that many.  Or, alternatively, add a "dividerstyle" and parameter to sidebar.  198.102.153.2 (talk) 23:22, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. bd2412  T 17:22, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
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