Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2011 December 27



Template:USAF weapons

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The result of the discussion was No Consensus - F ASTILY  (TALK) 22:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * USAF weapons

Navbox deals with current weapons of the United States Air Force which is normally dealt with by list. If every operator of "weapons" had a navbox then some articles could be completely overwhelmed with fifty or sixty navboxes. MilborneOne (talk) 22:35, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - navboxes should be by type of weapon/aircraft and their designation, not by service status - aside from Thirty Box Pileups, they're likely to drift out of date easier than lists are. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:32, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems to be a quite concise/useful list Buffs (talk) 05:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Unbulleted list

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The result of the discussion was Delete; while there is a majority of !votes in favor of keeping the file, many of them fail to adequately address the concerns raised by the nominator. - F ASTILY  (TALK) 20:48, 8 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Unbulleted list

Redundant to Plainlist, which works better. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:59, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note - There are more the 10,000 transclusions, most of them through 55 templates; those will need to be changed. There are also some pages that use this template with li_stylex= parameters, like List of Manchester United F.C. seasons. Those will need a custom solution. — Edokter  ( talk ) — 23:56, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I've converted most of those templates to use Plainlist. The rest should follow shortly. Thank you for your help. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:39, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per Edokter. If they need a custom solution, then this is it. 76.65.128.132 (talk) 04:18, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: Edokter didn't say "keep", he just pointed an issue to bear in mind as the template is replaced. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's a possible solution: . Doesn't take too long to convert. — Edokter  ( talk ) — 13:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep until transclusions are resolved; then I will support deletion (and anyone is welcome to amend my vote here accordingly). — OwenBlacker (Talk) 18:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * replacement is a standard part of the deletion procedure, for templates like this. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:52, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong keep, since plainlist does not work within image captions, but unbulleted list does (see Administrative divisions of Somalia). 174.56.57.138 (talk) 06:32, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Invalid Since that article wasn't using Unbulleted list, until the anon added it in error. The correct markup for their eventual presentation would be an (untemplated) ordered list - but that doesn't work, in a caption, anyway. I've restored the original markup. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:04, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Works in HTML though: . But yes, all wiki list markup fails in image captions. 16768. — Edokter  ( talk ) — 18:20, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note It doesn't seem to work with infobox settlement header. Is it related to 12974 or something? --Locos epraix ~ Beastepraix 01:01, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No, it was due to using flatlist rather than plainlist. [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Belgium&diff=468860042&oldid=468858736]. -- WOSlinker (talk) 01:09, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Too much drinking these days? Sorry. --Locos epraix ~ Beastepraix 01:17, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, since there are issues with plainlist not working in some situations, and we can easily just add "class=plainlist" to the unbulleted list template. Frietjes (talk) 16:27, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What issues? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:27, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * that "all wiki list markup fails in image captions" and no real reason to remove it when we can just add a class statement to unbulleted list. Frietjes (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:French Revolution

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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  (TALK) 22:39, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * French Revolution

Template is redundant to Template:French Revolution footer. Talkpage has prior discussion.SteveStrummer (talk) 19:07, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete – doesn't appear to be in great use, based on the What links here, as there are better templates, but would recommend someone takes 10 mins to amend those articles, preferably to a newer template, rather than leaving a load of redundant backlinks to this one.  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh &#91;Chat • RFF] 23:36, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll take care of it if concensus forms. The natural replacement would seem to be Template:French Revolution footer, even though it too needs some updating. SteveStrummer (talk) 00:07, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:KYIVMETRO stations

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The result of the discussion was Delete - F ASTILY  (TALK) 22:39, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * KYIVMETRO stations

Unused navi template. Substituted by template:METROKIEV stations. Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 01:51, 27 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Non-controversial housecleaning. /dima_sergiyenko/ 05:24, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
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