Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2011 November 5



Template:NBA roster list footer

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The result of the discussion was delete. — G FOLEY   F OUR!  — 07:01, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * NBA roster list footer

This navbox footer which is added to NBA roster templates (e.g. bottom of Template:Dallas Mavericks roster) causes undue clutter when most readers would not naturally navigate from a team's article to a template (not even an article) of another team's roster. A similar navigation footer for baseball was already discussed and deleted per consensus at Templates_for_discussion/Log/2011_August_26. Lists of NBA rosters already exist at List_of_current_Western_Conference_NBA_team_rosters and List_of_current_Eastern_Conference_NBA_team_rosters for those wanting access to multiple teams' rosters. —Bagumba (talk) 17:24, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I generally create templates when I would like to be able to get somewhere in one click. In this case, I like to go from one roster to another to monitor articles I work on. I don't find list articles made of templates to be proper wikification of encyclopedic content.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:21, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * — Note to closing admin: TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. —Bagumba (talk) 21:43, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Too many links pointing to one navbox. I recently removed the Warriors current roster template from Mark Price (who is no longer on the coaching staff).  He had been removed from the template but the template had not been removed from his page.  I wanted to see if the template was anywhere else it shouldn't be so I clicked the "what links here" link.  What did I find?  Links to literally every player and coach in the NBA - thoroughly unhelpful.  The need to access any NBA player within 2 clicks of any other just isn't important or useful enough to put up with that. Rikster2 (talk) 19:33, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I have heard a lot of arguments against various templates, but I don't even understand this one ("Too many links pointing to one navbox"). I don't think the deletion of this template will improve template cleanup for obsolete linkages.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:20, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Too many links = too many transclusions = harder to edit & weighs down pages technologically. But how about this argument - be consistent with other sports who have deleted similar temlates?  You used the same argument to get assistant coaches on college champ navboxes so you must believe this is a good reason. Rikster2 (talk) 21:34, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak delete – Even though I was involved in the creation of this template and also Template:NBA current roster template footer, I don't really think these templates are useful. The links are only useful to a handful of people who knows about editing wikipedia and templates. If these footers are created for the readers, the links should be to the teams' article, Current roster section (example: East Atlantic: BOS · NY · and so on ). Casual readers would be confused if they clicked the BOS link (from any other team article) and was taken to Template:Boston Celtics roster where there is no real article or reading material in there and there is no easy way to navigate from Template:Boston Celtics roster to Boston Celtics article. If these footers are created for the editors, to help navigation when they're editing articles, then the footer should be hidden from the mainspace article (example: Template:NBA Draft template list). In my opinion, we should avoid links to templates as much as possible, unless we really have to. There is no real purpose in leading the readers to a template when we could lead them to a more relevant article where the template exists (or a relevant section in an article). — MT (talk) 08:12, 7 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - template spams irrelevant links to other templates into articles with no other useful purpose. Exists only as a convenience piece for the template creator. Resolute 20:46, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * FYI A new TfD has been started at Templates_for_discussion/Log/2011_November_10 for a similar style of NBA roster footer that was found later. You are invited to join the discussion.—Bagumba (talk) 21:15, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Lego Clutch Powers

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted under G2 by. (NAC) Armbrust Talk to me about my editsreview  01:07, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lego Clutch Powers

Blatantly not a template with any useful applications; probably meets the CSD in some way but I'm honestly not sure (T3/G2?). Acather96 (talk) 16:15, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete as test page (no functionality and useless)Curb Chain (talk) 17:21, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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Template:2011–12 Southeastern Conference Men's Basketball Standings

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The result of the discussion was delete. — G FOLEY   F OUR!  — 07:03, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * 2011–12 Southeastern Conference Men's Basketball Standings

Duplicate; used on no pages ~ Richmond 96   t  •  c   15:36, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No reason for this to exist as an exact duplicate of 2011–12 Southeastern Conference men's basketball standings Jrcla2 (talk) 20:50, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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Template:British/Celticmusic

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The result of the discussion was delete. — G FOLEY   F OUR!  — 07:03, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * British/Celticmusic

Despite its contents, this template was only employed in articles relating to celtic musical culture, in which case it is superseded by Template:Celtic music. No remaining transclusions in article space.  Claret Ash  12:15, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete unused and not a very related templateCurb Chain (talk) 17:20, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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Template:WoT-InfoBox

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The result of the discussion was delete. — G FOLEY   F OUR!  — 07:03, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * WoT-InfoBox

Declined speedy from May this year: rationale was "Moved the infobox to the main article, and it really shouldn't be separate from it anyways since it makes it harder to edit for new users". Quite true, since this is now unused. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:03, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Wisconsin Wolfpacks seasons

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The result of the discussion was delete. — G FOLEY   F OUR!  — 07:04, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wisconsin Wolfpacks seasons

WP:NENAN. Team is apparently defunct, so navbox will not be expanded. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:37, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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Template:Wollongong Hawks roster

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The result of the discussion was delete. — G FOLEY   F OUR!  — 07:04, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wollongong Hawks roster

Not used; not needed. See Wollongong Hawks. I can't see any way of removing the navbar from that roster. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:36, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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