Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 April 16



Template:Porte class gate vessel

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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:42, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Porte class gate vessel

This fails as a navigation template since it contains only red links. Pichpich (talk) 18:01, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Template was just created on 24 March. Allow time for fills. Brad (talk) 21:03, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Links are being filled in, more to come, deletion rationale now invalid. Benea (talk) 12:06, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Hindu Monk

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The result of the discussion was merge into Infobox Hindu leader Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox Hindu Monk

Only used on ~10 articles, seems redundant to Infobox Hindu leader Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:51, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: I agree it seems redundant. I felt that Infobox Hindu leader stood for a social or political leader and it was inadequate to describe the spiritual personalities. Not everybody is a leader. There are numerous people who spent their entire lives in spiritual pursuits, never had any direct involvement with the Hindu society or people. I created Infobox Hindu Monk to cover such people. In fact, I feel, I should have named the template Infobox Hindu spiritual figure rather than Infobox Hindu Monk. BengaliHindu (talk) 18:11, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Redundant: Infobox Hindu leader has fields to cover any Hindu spiritual figure. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 18:34, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: Infobox Christian leader has more fields than Infobox Hindu leader. I think we need to add more fields to the latter in order to meet all requirements. I'll be adding them soon. In that case, Infobox Hindu Monk is redundant. BengaliHindu (talk) 18:38, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Best Coast

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:41, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Best Coast

With only two album articles and the main artist's article, navigating from one to the other remains rather simple without the need of a navigational box. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 14:53, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, textbook WP:NENAN. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:24, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. I like the group, but a navbox is not needed at this time with only two album articles beyond the band's page. I suspect enough significant coverage might exist for some of their songs ("When I'm With You", "Boyfriend", "The Only Place") to support individual articles, and if that should be the case the template can simply be recreated at that time.  Gongshow  Talk 04:44, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Pakistan Super 8 T20

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:44, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Pakistan Super 8 T20

Only 2 blue links well connected to each other. Magioladitis (talk) 10:43, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Agree with the nom, too few links to be a useful navbox. Jenks24 (talk) 08:28, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Computer death

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. There may be consensus if wikidepression and Computer death were relisted separately. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:36, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Computer death
 * Wikidepression
 * Out of town

Unused (out of town has one transclusion on a banned user's talk); redundant to wikibreak with a  parameter. We don't need individual custom templates for every possible reason a person might not currently be participating. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 14:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC) contribs) 15:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete per nom. I can see how this template can be used, and I doubt its completely redundant, but it's not very useful either. A message parameter is a good alternative. --Michaelzeng7 (talk - contribs) 15:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep out of town - I don't know about the other two, but I find out of town really useful when I'm going away for a short time and want to let people know I won't be around. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 09:40, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

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 * Keep out of town and Wikidepression - "we don't need them" - this kind of thinking is fallacious and counter-productive. We don't need to do a lot of things and some might argue we don't really need an article about cunnilingus. But, this is not a credible rationale against the existence of the elements of wikipedia. Wikipedia occasionally draws in really passionate editors who care about what they do and sometimes get depressed indeed albeit with a possibility of quick recovery from that also. So, what's the harm if a user wants to be cheered up by some of his associates. Nobody is obliged to visit any talk-page they don't want to visit. Anyway, if they delete the template it will only waste some few seconds of time of the depressed users because they can always just post what they feel like on their talk page. These template helps depressed users. It's useful and it's used by many. The number of uses of this template itself is the proof of its validity. "DrYouMe"→"Mrt3366"   (Talk?)   11:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If the goal of wikidepression is to invite editors to cheer one up, then it is definitely counterproductive as it encourages feeding the divas. Editors should not use the threat of leaving to try to attract messages of support. Additionally, it is not used at all at present, so it isn't clear what you mean by "it's used by many.... The number of uses of this template itself is the proof of its validity". Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:15, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - I created Computer death to convey a message that a user is unlikely to be able to edit/respond to discussion, but obviously may have sporadic access via other devices outside of their normal computer. The existing wikibreak and busy templates didn't accurately convey this. Sometimes specifics help editors with their interactions and expectations. Cheers, Zangar (talk) 14:21, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:25, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

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Template:Japan Sevens
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:39, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Japan Sevens

Navbox with only one item is pointless. Quest for Truth (talk) 13:14, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Was the same with Template:Gold Coast Sevens and the result was keep. The event will be held every year so a template is useful. Kante4 (talk) 15:11, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That TfD is a pretty poor precedent (including the nom, only three editors participated). Jenks24 (talk) 21:46, 15 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete until more of the events are held. There is currently no point in a template if it's only happened once… and it would take literally several years to meet the unofficial criteria of WP:NENAN. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:32, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep (^) Why delete and recreate? Intoronto1125 <b style="color:red;">Talk</b> Contributions   16:05, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Because we don't keep templates in the hope that they will be useful in a few years time. Jenks24 (talk) 21:46, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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 * Delete. The point of navboxes is to help people navigate to other related articles. With only one item there is nowhere else to go, hence making the navbox useless. Jenks24 (talk) 21:46, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:22, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

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 * Delete per WP:NENAN. -- N  Y  Kevin  @640, i.e. 14:21, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NENAN, there are not enough articles to warrant a navbox. Armbrust, B.Ed. <sup style="color:#E3A857;">Let's talk <sub style="color:#008000;">about my edits? 02:05, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
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