Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 April 30



Template:Hotels and Pension House

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:47, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hotels and Pension House

navigates nothing. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:52, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, G11 - spam link, not transcluded, unlikely that there will be articles.  mabdul 11:47, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't see any purpose for it other than to list loosely associated topics. Xeltran (talk) 20:29, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Hoffman-Manning song

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:50, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hoffman-Manning song
 * Hoffman-Manning-plus song

unused boilerplate. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:50, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, useless.  mabdul 11:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Historical GDP of Romania

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:52, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Historical GDP of Romania

old and unused. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:47, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, unused.  mabdul 11:58, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Hide title part

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:52, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hide title part

unused. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:35, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, unused and I hate title changes. <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 12:02, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Hexdigit
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The result of the discussion was merged with hexadecimal Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:54, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hexdigit

unused and replaced by one of the many dec2hex templates. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:34, 30 April 2012 (UTC) *Delete, if it is worth, then merge it as it is only usable for one digit, see:. <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 12:24, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep clearly different from all of those, since it shows only one digit, and does not specify a prefix or suffix. dec2hex shows a prefix "0x" and hexadecimal shows at least two digits when specified using "no" suffix. Merge into hexadecimal, by making it display one digit. 70.49.124.225 (talk) 03:21, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment the other templates mentioned do not work for only one digit in a simple digit display (they have markup or make a two digit output), so a merge seems appropriate. 70.49.124.225 (talk) 03:52, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 12 is working, so what needs to be merged? <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 09:08, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * C C is not working like "hexdigit", if it were it would show C and neither does  0xC -- they both have an excess of characters. 70.49.124.225 (talk) 12:56, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * mmmh, correct - as the documentation correctly states, the minimum are always two digits --> Merge <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 13:22, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * comment, I have added this feature to hexadecimal so C C works without padding. Frietjes (talk) 16:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Heroteamlist
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:56, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Heroteamlist
 * HeroteamlistStart
 * HeroteamlistEnd

unused. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:30, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, unused. <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 12:28, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Heroj M
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:00, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Heroj M

unused and not clear why we need it. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:29, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, not English and no translation in the doc. <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 12:32, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Heroes Game Trophy
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:03, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Heroes Game Trophy

unused. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:28, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, it is a wrapper using another (used) template, but unused and hardly will ever used since it is Iowa-related. <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 12:37, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Helpboxrow
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Helpboxrow

unused. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:24, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, unused HTML table part, which is always better using a wikitable format. <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 12:39, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Heath aeroengines
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Heath aeroengines

all red links. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:21, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, unused. <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 12:40, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Hbf intro
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:05, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hbf intro

unused boilerplate. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:18, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, never understood the boilerplates use. (was created looong ago - so maybe it was for mass creating articles). <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 12:47, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Category tree navbox
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:05, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Category tree navbox

unused. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 19:07, 30 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete, navbox for cats? We have cats for that! <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 12:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:POTD row
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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:11, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * POTD row

doesn't appear to be in use except for a handful of old mainpage redesign proposals. we could certainly move it to project space to preserve these. the main problem with it currently is that it is creating a bunch of errors due to the category stuff at the bottom of the template. at first I thought it might be a substituted template, but that doesn't make sense given the number of parserfunctions in it. Would make more sense to have it in project space and/or remove add an option to remove the category. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 16:50, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. This template is used to create the POTD templates for the Main Page. — howcheng  {chat} 19:44, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep Anything used on or for the Main Page is not subject to deletion, except for illegal things like copyvios; please attempt to get consensus at Talk:Main Page or another relevant talk page for stopping the use of this template. Nyttend (talk) 00:14, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. As others have stated, this template is used to create the Featured Picture templates for the Main page. The lack of pages listed on Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:POTD row is due to fact that users are suppose to substitute the template using instead of  directly (like the user talk message templates). Without the template substitution, numerous meta-templates will unnecessarily go under cascading protection (for example, see this edit summary). By the way, many of the parserfunctions are used to help automatically resize the file if it a panorama image, among others. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:09, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - "at first I thought it might be a substituted template" - then read the documentation page, it is a subst template! <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 11:36, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Anchor2
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The result of the discussion was delete as redundant to either anchor or visible anchor. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:19, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Anchor2

redundant to template:vanchor. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 16:20, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment it is not equivalent, since vanchor creates an anchor at the visible text, while anchor2 does not, if a different visible text is specified from the anchor name. There should be a merger between vanchor, anchor and anchor2. 70.49.124.225 (talk) 03:34, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * While that is true, here a simplified example ( is the generated anchor ;-) ):
 * foo --> foo
 * --> foo
 * and thus only an additional anchor is created which is not harming anybody. (anchor 2 has only the possibility to create one anchor)
 * That is not true, since if you already have an anchor called "#bar" later in the text, this initial usage will break linking to the later anchor. 70.49.124.225 (talk) 03:54, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 13:48, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Report-nav
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:23, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Report-nav

broken since there is no template:nav. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 15:46, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Well report-nav was made years ago, and nav was only created and delete a day back. So perhaps this is still not finished yet. I am declining the speedy deletion. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:23, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It still falls under speedy as it creates stuff in the Report: space which does not exist. As it's unused and unlinked in its 2 years of existence, it is clearly G6 and/or G8. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:39, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete, although I see what the user wanted to achieve (and it is broken now), it is unused although it was created back in 2010 and so likely not possible to populate. <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 14:25, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Aum
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:27, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Aum

Unused, I can't really see a purpose for this. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:37, 30 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Although the function is obvious, I agree that in practice it will always be better to link to the article from a Latin title if required. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:34, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, everybody can use script as used in that template. (and it is unused) <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 11:30, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Largest cities of Hawaii
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The result of the discussion was delete. Jafeluv (talk) 11:35, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Largest cities of Hawaii
 * Largest cities of Georgia (U.S. state)
 * Largest cities of Texas
 * Largest cities of Michigan
 * Largest cities of Alabama
 * Largest cities of Alaska
 * Largest cities and towns of Connecticut

Nominator statement: Normal use is for countries, not for states. Based on an unreliable source (personal website)  Night of the Big Wind    talk  14:30, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Nominator statement: See Hawaii. There is a lack of separate cities in the entire state of Hawaii. Honolulu is the only incorporated city in the state. Everything else is either an unincorporated place or a census-designated place. Even the citation link listed on this template includes this fact, listing only Honolulu as a city while everything else is an "Uninc" (short for unincorporated place). If we must keep such a template, either Largest cities should be modified so an extra parameter can change the header, or another meta-template should be used. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:48, 30 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete, along with possibly hundreds similar created by same user; geonames.org is a Wiki, not a reliable source, see ANI.  This is going to need coordinated admin cleanup and deletion, there are too many for individual AFDs, and as far as I can tell, none of them are reliable.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 04:56, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Can't all of these templates be rolled into one TFD? There are hundreds, all based on non-reliable sources.  My declaration is to delete all of them.  See ANI:   Not only are they based on non-reliable sources, but the notion of 10 largest cities isn't appropriate for many articles where they were added, they often replaced reliably sourced data and disrupted flow of the article, and they are sometimes undue.  Lots of problems: the generic  can be adapted on individual articles if warranted.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 14:36, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as grossly inaccurate. I live in Hawaii; Honolulu comprises eight of the "cities" listed, so those other seven "cities" have got to go right there. I also agree with Sandy "Delete, along with possibly hundreds similar created by same user; geonames.org is a Wiki, not a reliable source, see ANI.  This is going to need coordinated admin cleanup and deletion, there are too many for individual AFDs, and as far as I can tell, none of them are reliable." Softlavender (talk) 10:49, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete all "Largest cities" templates for individual U.S. states. As near as I can determine there wasn't a felt need for these templates, and the terminology "cities" is wrong for several of the states. Also, as Sandy notes, these lists are for the most part based on non-RS sources that should not be cited. (However, the numbers that I've checked are actually OK.) --Orlady (talk) 19:01, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak delete though the Connecticut one has a proper reference and the numbers are accurate. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 21:48, 30 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Each US state template has a section for largest cities (and sometimes other municipalities, if applicable), so these templates are redundant.  Nyttend (talk) 00:15, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: Alabama, Alaska, Connecticut, Hawaii - unused; Subst and delete Georgia, Texas and Michigan and discuss the content problem on the related talk pages. <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 11:23, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:AAHL Arenas
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:44, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * AAHL Arenas

Redundant to Template:AAHL. Jenks24 (talk) 01:25, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, totally redundant. <small style="font:bold 12px Courier New;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap"> mabdul 11:12, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Redundant, not even useful given there are only two links actually relevant to the article title. Resolute 00:33, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
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