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Template:Lego Star Wars games

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:31, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Lego Star Wars games

Superceded by Template:Lego video games and Template:Lego Star Wars, completely. Didn't speedy tag it because it's still used. Izno (talk) 23:17, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Cmbcmb999's Navbox

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The result of the discussion was userfy Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:33, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Cmbcmb999's Navbox

userfy. 198.102.153.1 (talk) 23:11, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Ferlin Husky

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:40, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ferlin Husky

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 22:19, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:NENAN is just a essay, and not a policy.  Ebe  123  → report 23:25, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Template links five articles. Many of the articles do not link to one another without the navbox in place.  Husky has several chart topping hits.--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:18, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * By now, yes. Why do you wait till a nomination to finish off the template properly? The Banner talk 00:33, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Contrare...the template has had 5 or more links since the beginning. "Country Music is Here to Stay" makes 6.--Jax 0677 (talk) 03:45, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I count 5 albums, which is obviously still fine here, but I don't think you count the main topic. Per NENAN: There should five singles or albums for a music article (in this case the music article is the artist); five products by a common company (company would be linked as the main topic); five members of a common group such as a band (band would be linked as the main topic). That's how I read it anyway. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 21:55, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply - When the burden of proof is not met, the status quo prevails. Note also that the article says "For instance", "A good, but not set-in-stone rule to follow is the rule of five" and "Are there presently at least five articles on which your navbox will be used".  Besides, navboxes are designed to ease transition between articles, which this does, because without the navbox, the albums do not all link to one another.  Thanks.  Any other points of debate requiring discussion?--Jax 0677 (talk) 13:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Craig Campbell (singer)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:28, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Craig Campbell (singer)

Textbook WP:NENAN. Only one album and two singles. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:17, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete for now. It can be recreated easily enough if/when he releases a new album & single, at which point the navbox will be warranted.  Gongshow  Talk 03:07, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:John Sebastian
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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:37, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * John Sebastian

WP:NENAN <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 22:08, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Template links seven articles, two more than WP:NENAN requires. Many of the articles do not link to one another without the navbox in place.--Jax 0677 (talk) 23:48, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * By now, yes. Why do you wait till a nomination to finish off the template properly? <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 00:33, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Contrare...the template has had 5 or more links since the beginning. Now the navbox has 8 links.  Any other points of debate requiring discussion?--Jax 0677 (talk) 13:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. Navbox appears useful, particularly with the post-nom additions.  Gongshow  Talk 03:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Howie Day
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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:37, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Howie Day

WP:NENAN <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 22:06, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Template links eight articles, two more than WP:NENAN requires. Many of the articles do not link to one another without the navbox in place.--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:10, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * By now, yes. Why do you wait till a nomination to finish off the template properly? <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 00:33, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:NENAN is a guideline, not a policy. Two of the albums did not link to one another either.--Jax 0677 (talk) 05:18, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Then fix the internal linking instead of producing a dodgy template. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 11:41, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply - With a band like Pigface, it would be a lot of work to list and link all of the dozens of band members and albums inside the readable prose text of every article. This is why we have navboxes.  The articles did not link to each other without the navbox either.  Additionally, some articles get so long that trying to find the link within the article can prove difficult at best.  If something is wrong, WP:SOFIXIT.  Now the navbox has 8 links.  Any other points of debate requiring discussion?--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. Navbox appears useful, particularly with the post-nom additions.  Gongshow  Talk 03:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
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Aerosmith album templates
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:27, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Aerosmith (album)
 * Toys in the Attic

All but one of the linked songs in these are already satified by Aerosmith singles, and the one that does has questionable notability. Plenty of recent precedent that such navboxes are not needed when other artist navboxes already exist. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 16:18, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and precedent. These navboxes seem redundant.  Gongshow  Talk 03:09, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:SNMD
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:26, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * SNMD

Unused. Not sure where it would be used. DH85868993 (talk) 13:47, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe it was an unused fork of, so fine with deletion.  MBisanz  talk 16:24, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:North African Cup of Cup Champions Seasons
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:24, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * North African Cup of Cup Champions Seasons

Unused. Note that the template name is quite misleading: the template actually contains links to the 2007/08 seasons of the CAF member leagues, and hence it is redundant to 2007 in African football (CAF) and 2008 in African football (CAF). Note that this is not North African Cup of Champions Seasons, which actually is a list of North African Cup of Champions seasons. DH85868993 (talk) 12:39, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not needed. -Koppapa (talk) 12:53, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:IIHFbox2
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:23, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * IIHFbox2

Unused. According to Talk:2007_IIHF_World_Championship, it was intended to be used for future games. DH85868993 (talk) 10:55, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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The Supremes track list templates
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:20, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Dynamite track listing
 * Mary, Scherrie & Susaye track listing
 * The Magnificent 7 track listing
 * The Return of the Magnificent Seven track listing
 * The Supremes Produced and Arranged by Jimmy Webb track listing
 * The Supremes track listing

Track list templates were seemingly created for nearly every Supremes studio album, but these six are unused simply because either none of the songs from the respective album have articles or the ones that do have articles are cover versions that aren't notable as Supremes songs. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 07:39, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Bob Dylan album templates
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:17, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Another Side of Bob Dylan
 * Blonde on Blonde
 * Bringing It All Back Home
 * Highway 61 Revisited
 * The Times They Are a-Changin'

There are two quite similar templates for each of these albums which navigate to and are transcluded in the same exact articles. The other templates are track list templates, such as Blonde on Blonde tracks and Highway 61 Revisited tracks. Outside of location, they serve the same function so, really, only one of each needs to exist. I'm nominating the navboxes because 1) similar ones have been deleted in previous TfDs and 2) track list templates exist for other Dylan albums that don't have a complete set of articles for each song and, thus, no navbox at all. All are categorized under Category:Bob Dylan album templates. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 07:21, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Crimesincentury
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:16, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Crimesincentury

Unused. Looks as though it was designed as a header for the "Xth-century crimes" categories, but is not used for that purpose. DH85868993 (talk) 06:25, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:SK Willem II Tilburg Squad
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:16, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * SK Willem II Tilburg Squad

Unused. Presumably lists the current squad of Willem II (football club) at the time the template was created (January 2011). DH85868993 (talk) 05:42, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Dream Tdk
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:16, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Dream Tdk

Only used in User:Oddkillers35/sandbox. Subst and delete or userfy. DH85868993 (talk) 05:10, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Small templates
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:13, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Small templates
 * Small templates/start
 * Small templates/end

Small templates is only transcluded by the other two, which are both unused. These templates allow a stack of "small" templates (e.g. ) to be collapsed. But are "small" templates still used, now that we have WikiBannerShell? DH85868993 (talk) 03:39, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * delete as completely redundant to stack and friends. 198.102.153.1 (talk) 21:30, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Growth of Factory unit in Bihar and India
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:09, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Growth of Factory unit in Bihar and India

Only transcluded in one article (Economy of Bihar). Difficult to imagine where else it would be used. Subst and delete. DH85868993 (talk) 03:32, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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