Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 January 11



Template:Nasal

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The result of the discussion was No Consensus. - F ASTILY  (TALK) 06:48, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Nasal

also Template:Oral-nasal
 * Oral-nasal

This is not a template, but an article in disguise. Using the sentence makes more sense then using this template. Night of the Big Wind talk  16:07, 11 January 2012 (UTC)


 * How are they "articles"? They are transcluded across several articles. If we put them in manually, then all articles would have to be updated manually to keep them in sync, which is a pain. Also, why these two and not the dozen others used next to them? — kwami (talk) 16:17, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. We don't use templates for article prose. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:16, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. This template, along with quite a number of prose templates, such as oral, alveolar, implosive, retroflex, plosive, and a good number more, are used at articles such as bilabial nasal, close front unrounded vowel, and voiceless uvular fricative, are used to allow descriptions of the articulatory characteristics of the sounds in question to be consistent across many articles.  If, for example, an editor feels like there is a better way to describe the articulation of "retroflex" they can edit the template rather than editing a dozen or articles.
 * There really is a great benefit to having prose templates like these. If there hasn't been a centralized discussion on the matter, there ought to be.  — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]  00:00, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * You still have to add the template to all the articles. Copy and Past works just as quick. Night of the Big Wind  talk  01:58, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make any sense. Editing in one place is just as quick as copying and pasting an edit in seventeen places?  — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]  02:48, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Except that it links to a disambiguation page, which seems to frustrate it's intended purpose. Secondarywaltz (talk) 00:51, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The reason that it links to a dab page is that the dedicated page is only appropriate for some of the articles which transclude this. It could be rd'd to nasal stop, but at least two articles would then need different treatment. Perhaps you could bring this up at either nasal stop or nasal palatal approximant? — kwami (talk) 07:04, 17 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment this seems very bad use of an anatomic name like "nasal" or "oral", or the physics concept of "implosive". 76.65.128.132 (talk) 20:14, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You'll have to take that up with the linguistics community. These terms are completely entrenched. You might as well tell physicists not to use fanciful redefinitions of terms like "force" or "work", or chemists to stop using "organic" if they're not actually referring to the chemistry of an organism. — kwami (talk)
 * No, not really, all we need do is rename the templates to something else (like attaching "(linguisitics)" to them) 76.65.128.132 (talk) 06:28, 19 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. This piece of text appears in 18 or so articles and is better maintained if kept in one place. There are many other templates just like it, as Aeusoes said. It's nobody's fault that such texts are shared among many articles, but we must make the most of what the software has to offer to simplify our work. If we delete the template, not every editor who wants to improve the explanation given in this text will be aware that the same explanation appears in other articles; even among those who are aware, not every one of them will be willing to go and edit all instances. On top of that, once we break the link between the articles and this template, searching for all those instances will be very difficult at best. The down side of using this template is that inexperienced editors won't know where to edit that text. But that I think is a small price to pay given the benefits of templates like this. — Adi  Japan  03:06, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I sometimes come across tables that have been moved into a template (sometimes years ago), but are only transcluded into a single article. I merge them when I come across them, because of the difficulty of editing them (though I suppose I could just supply 'edit' links at the top). In this case, it is a matter of keeping the text in sync. — kwami (talk) 07:12, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Such a link could come in handy. Maybe worth considering how we could add one to these templates. --JorisvS (talk) 13:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. As explained above, they are useful. --JorisvS (talk) 13:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Honghe

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  08:15, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Honghe

Unused navbox Bulwersator (talk) 06:46, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Hong Kong 08 squad

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  08:15, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hong Kong 08 squad

Unused navbox (survived Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_June_2) Bulwersator (talk) 06:46, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Homenetmen Beirut Roster

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  08:15, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Homenetmen Beirut Roster

Unused navbox Bulwersator (talk) 06:44, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Homebrew

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 * Homebrew

Unused navbox Bulwersator (talk) 06:44, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've edited and applied that template. A navbox for a certain type of videogame. De728631 (talk) 22:12, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Looks like it wasn't being used, but it is now, so no reason to delete. 28bytes (talk) 22:15, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per above Bulwersator (talk) 20:37, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Hollywood Undead genres

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 03:28, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hollywood Undead genres

Unused, I added additional notification on Talk:Hollywood_Undead Bulwersator (talk) 06:43, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete inappropriate use of templatespace for boilerplate text for one article. 76.65.128.132 (talk) 07:17, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Holby City series summary

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 03:28, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Holby City series summary

Unused, purpose unclear Bulwersator (talk) 06:41, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete it was substed into List of Holby City episodes already. 76.65.128.132 (talk) 07:20, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - I honestly can't remember why I created this back in 2010. Probably based on something I'd seen done elsewhere, but as 76.65.128.132 notes, the content is now correctly in the episode list. Frickative  23:12, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:HoghizNavigation
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:27, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
 * HoghizNavigation

Unused navbox Bulwersator (talk) 06:41, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - it's unused, and will probably stay that way, since the content on component villages has been merged into the commune article (Hoghiz). - Biruitorul Talk 17:54, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Yamaha watercraft
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:26, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yamaha watercraft

provides little useful navigation. Frietjes (talk) 00:13, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:ZPL 2009/10
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:25, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ZPL 2009/10

replaced by template:Saudi League, which includes both current and former clubs. Frietjes (talk) 00:06, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Zamoskvoretskaya style
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:25, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Zamoskvoretskaya style

unused. Frietjes (talk) 00:04, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Örgryte IS matches
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:25, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Örgryte IS matches

nothing but redlinks and redirects. Frietjes (talk) 00:01, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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