Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 July 20



Template:U.S. popular vote total disclaimer

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:17, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * U.S. popular vote total disclaimer

unused. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete boilerplate text, and it could be generalized, since the same could be said for many other results other than the US -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 05:23, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Monastordercats

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:17, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Monastordercats

unused. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete categorization by template for something other than a stub -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 05:29, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:PHP link

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:16, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * PHP link

unused. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Unused; questionable usefulness. It does not seem to be specific to PHP anyway. 50.53.15.51 (talk) 15:28, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment this creates a very very limited HTTP POST URL... so not specific to PHP at all. -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 03:52, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Mmukpcloc

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:16, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Mmukpcloc

unused. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment – It should at least be tagged with  (provided a usefulness can be found to keep it). 50.53.15.51 (talk) 15:33, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Pathway

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:15, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Pathway

unused. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment – It should at least be tagged with  (provided a usefulness can be found to keep it). 50.53.15.51 (talk) 15:31, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:IRC channel
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * IRC channel

appears to be only used by one user in one user's space. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Dupe of Template:Freenode. Rjd0060 (talk) 06:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - also redundant to IRC. <small style="font: 12px Courier New; color: #000000; display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 3px 1px 4px;background-color:#fff">mabdul 10:45, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. It might be useful but is obviously redundant. 50.53.15.51 (talk) 15:27, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:U.S. judge succession 2 row
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:14, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * U.S. judge succession 2 row
 * U.S. judge succession 2 note
 * Start U.S. judge succession 2

unused after they were recently merged with template:U.S. judge succession row, ... Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete -- deprecated. -- Selket Talk 15:07, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:ONETIMEWARN
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:26, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * ONETIMEWARN

we already have plenty of specific one-time-warning templates, suggest substituting this one and deleting it. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Sport Club Internacional
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:14, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sport Club Internacional

unused. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete the club is not the official state club for the subnational division of the flag being used. -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 05:58, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Putt9567
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:13, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Putt9567

unused. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment this is supposed to be used by User:MPUploadBot, which is apparently still active. Will deleting the template break the bot? -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 06:01, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * that bot has not operated since 2011, the operator, X!, is retired. Frietjes (talk) 16:56, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There should be some sort of message on the userpage for the bot, in that case -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 03:14, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Newaid
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:12, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Newaid

unused. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment it's a substitution template, it's supposed to be unused. -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 04:12, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * you mean it's not supposed to be transcluded. I said it is unused. Frietjes (talk) 14:19, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Hardsmallcaps1
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:25, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hardsmallcaps1
 * Hardsmallcaps2
 * Hardsmallcaps3
 * Hardsmallcaps4

appears to have been only created for discussion purposes. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment What about the other three of them? hardsmallcaps3 - hardsmallcaps2 - hardsmallcaps1 -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 05:35, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * now added. Frietjes (talk) 16:33, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Sdot
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:11, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sdot

unused, and this sort of delimiter is being phased out in favor of WP:HLIST. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete -- I agree. Usefulness is questionable (and obviously no one does use it) and any such use would go against WP:ACCESS anyway. 50.53.15.51 (talk) 15:13, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:JSTOR stable URL
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:11, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * JSTOR stable URL

unused. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete – It looks like it was created for some sort of compatibility once but is no longer used/useful. 50.53.15.51 (talk) 15:40, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Trans link
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:10, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Trans link

unused. Frietjes (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't understand what this is for -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 05:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete – That is a good question. It appears to have been used for some sort of interwiki or namespace usage but I cannot think of any good reason to make all the links text be "*" (maybe as some way to categorize things but then why have a parameter for "Category" namespace?). 50.53.15.51 (talk) 15:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * it is used to create a footnote-type link to a page on another wiki, like Wikipedia, for example. hence the name "trans link" = "translation link".  however, we apparently don't need it since we have been getting along just fine with out it. Frietjes (talk) 17:00, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Brady Seals
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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn per addition of Hot Apple Pie links. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:46, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Brady Seals

Suggest merging to Little Texas. Seals only had four solo albums, which puts him one short of WP:NENAN. There is no reason his solo work can't be incorporated into Little Texas' navbox, as is done with Larry Stewart's work outside Restless Heart. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:21, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep
 * Template has 10 links
 * Brady Seals does not link to Hot Apple Pie nor Mark Matejka
 * The Truth (Brady Seals album) does not link to Thompson Street, Hot Apple Pie, Hot Apple Pie, Mark Matejka, Troy Seals nor Lisa Stewart
 * Brady Seals (album) does not link to Hot Apple Pie, Hot Apple Pie (album), Mark Matejka, Troy Seals nor Lisa Stewart
 * Thompson Street does not link to The Truth, Hot Apple Pie, Hot Apple Pie (album), Mark Matejka, Troy Seals nor Lisa Stewart
 * Hot Apple Pie does not link to The Truth, Brady Seals nor Thompson Street

I'll write more later.

--Jax 0677 (talk) 17:39, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment The template did not include the Hot Apple Pie links when I nominated it. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:01, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment Similar to the case with the discussion about Colt Ford, even a slight bit of research would have revealed that the album Hot Apple Pie and Mark Matejka are related to the band Hot Apple Pie that Brady Seals was a part of, and that Lisa Stewart is Seals' wife.


 * I ask again, what proof is there that WP:NENAN requires five articles in addition to the title of the template as opposed to including the same?


 * Hot Apple Pie (album) does not link to The Truth, Brady Seals, Thompson Street, Little Texas nor Lisa Stewart
 * Mark Matejka does not link to Brady Seals, The Truth, Brady Seals, Thompson Street, Hot Apple Pie, Little Texas, Troy Seals nor Lisa Stewart
 * Little Texas does not link to The Truth, Thompson Street, Mark Matejka, Troy Seals nor Lisa Stewart
 * Troy Seals does not link to The Truth, Thompson Street, Mark Matejka nor Lisa Stewart
 * Lisa Stewart does not link to The Truth, Thompson Street, Mark Matejka nor Troy Seals

A great deal of time is spent by people nominating templates such as Superjoint Ritual, Saigon Kick, Thornley, 4 Non Blondes, Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine and Colt Ford just because people don't do their due diligance to research and expand the templates that SEEM deficient.--Jax 0677 (talk) 23:56, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Talkin' 'Bout Your Generation
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:08, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Talkin' 'Bout Your Generation

Navbox with only four links. An IP keeps restoring names of presenters to the template, but there is a long standing consensus that cast and crew should not be included in navboxes, so these shouldn't be there. All articles linked to in the navbox are in the same category, which includes 10 articles. The series articles contain links to and from each other so this navbox seems redundant. AussieLegend (talk) 09:51, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Question: AussieLegend, are you able to provide evidence of the long standing consensus that cast and crew should not be included in navboxes? (I'm not saying there isn't one; I'd just be interested to see some evidence of it). Also, at the risk of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, I notice that several of the other templates in (e.g. Argumental and Mock the Week) include presenters and team captains/regular panelists. DH85868993 (talk) 11:11, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There were actually several discussions, a long time ago over a period of time. I did manage to find one of them, from 2009, here. --AussieLegend (talk) 11:21, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. DH85868993 (talk) 11:31, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment: at the time I created the template, I was unaware of the consensus not to have cast in the template. Now that I am aware of this, I don't really mind whether it is deleted or not because, as AussieLegend said, it does seem redundant now. Themeparkgc   Talk  22:16, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * delete, with only the series links, it is redundant to the links in the infobox. Frietjes (talk) 14:21, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Shannara location
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:06, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox Shannara location

Redundant to infobox fictional location. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:40, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * delete after replacement. Frietjes (talk) 17:00, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Fishery Begin
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox Fishery Begin
 * Infobox Fishery Image
 * Infobox Fishery Characteristics
 * Infobox Fishery Harvest

Obsolete; replaced with infobox fishery on all transclusions. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:21, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * delete, nice work! Frietjes (talk) 15:08, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Latest stable software release/K-Lite Codec Pack 64-bit
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Latest stable software release/K-Lite Codec Pack 64-bit

This template is no longer used since its hosting infobox is merged. Codename Lisa (talk) 08:24, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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Netball squad templates
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Netball squad player
 * Netball squad start
 * Netball squad mid
 * Netball squad end

Netball squad player has no transclusions. The other three templates are only trancluded by Netball squad player. DH85868993 (talk) 08:09, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Paraguay
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Paraguay

No transclusions. The only article in which it could reasonably be transcluded is Paraguay, which already contains an embedded version. DH85868993 (talk) 05:05, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Arguably a T3 as a hardcoded unused template. Suffice to say we don't really need to have navbox groups split if they're only going to be used on one page. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 18:01, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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