Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 July 29



Template:DE-BY

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 03:22, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * DE-BY

Unused. Redundant to flag. DH85868993 (talk) 08:44, 22 July 2012 (UTC) 
 * Comment. Not quite. flag does not automatically produce a Bavarian flag icon, whereas this does. However, if we could somehow redirect this to "flagicon|Bavaria" that would be better, I agree. But I don't know how to do that. BTW the point of having this is to speed up translations of German articles that come across with this template. In slower time, editors can change the template to the usual one, which is why this is currently unused. --Bermicourt (talk) 10:37, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose hasty deletion per comment above. -- Evertype·✆ 10:43, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete nonstandard flag template. -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 02:49, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 21:34, 29 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment (from nominator): In light of Bermicourt's explanation, I'm happy for the template to be kept, but I suggest the template documentation be updated to explain how it is used, to minimise the likelihood of it being nominated for deletion again in the future. DH85868993 (talk) 07:06, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * delete, I fail to see how this is any different from →  Bavaria, and there are no other DE-XYZ templates. Frietjes (talk) 18:59, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Naming flag templates after ISO codes is confusing enough for nations (e.g. is far superior to, producing identical results) but even worse for subnational entities.  Far fewer editors will know that DE-BY will produce the flag of Bavaria, compared to editors who see  in Wiki markup.  Template usage should be "self-documenting", and using codes instead of plain names is contrary to that goal. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 20:23, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:AuthorMask doc

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 03:23, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * AuthorMask doc

Replaced by. -— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 19:00, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Gamelan

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 03:29, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Gamelan
 * Gamelan instruments
 * Gendhing

Propose merging Template:Gamelan with Template:Gamelan instruments and Template:Gendhing.

As Template:Gamelan incorporates the information from both Template:Gamelan instruments and Template:Gendhing and one template could be applied to all gamelan pages. Hyacinth (talk) 08:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. It certainly is redundant as it is. My only concern would be that, as they are, the instruments and gendhing templates are based on the Central Javanese style; whereas the top of the gamelan is clearly trying to cover all the gamelan styles. I'm not sure the same typologies (instruments categorized by function, gendhing structures by relationship with wayang) would be meaningful for other styles. But I suppose a possibility is to have those sections specifically marked Central Javanese and create other sections for the instruments and structures for other regional styles? But perhaps by the time that is done, the template would end up too large. Rigadoun (talk) 05:40, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Aside from personal taste, can templates be too large? Note the alternate instrument organization at Template talk:Gamelan instruments. Hyacinth (talk) 03:24, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


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 * Oppose - yes templates can be too large! Asia project templates are not only large but  to the point of being a problem - separate gamelan templates however small are much more flexible readable and user friendly SatuSuro 02:29, 27 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Really? What makes you think templates can be too large aside from your personal opinion? Hyacinth (talk) 21:48, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

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 * Oppose - Saturosuro is making very good arguments for keeping them. And I fully agree.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:46, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Country data Micronesia
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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:33, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure that I'm in the right place for this, since this is a redirect. However, editors at WP:NCGN have directed me to propose deletion here, and I found a previous discussion at WP:RFD that seems to imply the same. This is an unacademic use of a proper name. The Federated States of Micronesia doesn't have a short-form name, and the name "Micronesia" of course primarily refers to the region. This redirect should be deleted, since it fosters colloquial usage in an encyclopaedic context. Rennell435 (talk) 16:49, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Flag Template has been notified of this discussion.  Night w   05:21, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete: Improper naming device, ambiguous, etc. As I've said before, it's like seeing 🇺🇸 United States, which doesn't look very proper. It probably has NPOV issues attached with it also.  Night w   05:21, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Replace all transclusions with "Federated States of Micronesia" and delete. Is "FS Micronesia" acceptable? If not, also delete MIC after replacing with FSM. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 07:11, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes there's still a bit of cleaning up to be done before deletion can take place. I'd offer assistance, but my time is quite limited these days. I don't know about "FS Micronesia"... It gets hits on Google books. That might be enough to save it, and I guess it helps when space is limited...  Night w   20:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been switching all the transclusions for a few days now. I think I've got them all! Rennell435 (talk) 16:51, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The only transclusions remaining are those in userspace and on talk pages. Do these need to be switched? Rennell435 (talk) 17:41, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No, they are fine to leave.  Night w   14:14, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:22, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

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 * Relister's comment: Deletion review/Log/2012 July 12 suggested that more discussion might be helpful.  Sandstein   09:22, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have salvaged my remarks from the DR page. Redirect should be kept as it is greatly inconvenient to use templates such as flag without this. While "Micronesia" is indeed a Geographic region, much like 🇮🇪 Ireland the association is clear even though geographic region of Ireland has two political entities on it: Republic of Ireland (this is what people typically refer to when they say "Ireland") and Northern Ireland (a part of the United Kingdom). Nobody will confuse Micronesia ( Federated States of Micronesia) with a geographic region when used though the flag template or any other similar template. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 08:38, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
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 * Oppose - I oppose a move or deletion. It seems like a useful template.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:45, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep The name of the template is "country data". Seems pretty obvious that this refers to a country and not a region, right? Ego White Tray (talk) 12:35, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:4TeamRR-1Group
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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:CSD. Jenks24 (talk) 14:37, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * 4TeamRR-1Group

Unused and completely redundant to 4TeamRR. Armbrust, B.Ed. <sup style="color:#E3A857;">WrestleMania XXVIII <sub style="color:#008000;">The Undertaker 20–0  13:26, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. I'm an idiot. Terribly sorry, go ahead. Obviously I didn't check hard enough. Feel free to hit me on the head with a massive sledgehammer for stupidity, I will make sure I check MUCH harder next time. At least I know what to look out for now. Kapitan110295 (talk) 13:36, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:RHI97Bracket
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:48, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * RHI97Bracket

Unused and redundant to 8TeamBracket-RHI, which has a parameter to change "Division Finals" to "Conference Semifinals" if necessary. Armbrust, B.Ed. <sup style="color:#E3A857;">WrestleMania XXVIII <sub style="color:#008000;">The Undertaker 20–0  12:23, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:2009 PIHA Founders Cup Playoffs bracket
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:59, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * 2009 PIHA Founders Cup Playoffs bracket

Only used on 2 articles. Subst and delete. Armbrust, B.Ed. <sup style="color:#E3A857;">WrestleMania XXVIII <sub style="color:#008000;">The Undertaker 20–0  11:46, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:1998 MLRH Jason Cup Playoffs Bracket
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:59, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * 1998 MLRH Jason Cup Playoffs Bracket

Only used on one article. Subst and delete. Armbrust, B.Ed. <sup style="color:#E3A857;">WrestleMania XXVIII <sub style="color:#008000;">The Undertaker 20–0  11:04, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:2004 Elite Sports Group Cup Playoffs bracket
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:59, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * 2004 Elite Sports Group Cup Playoffs bracket

Used only on one article. Subst and delete. Armbrust, B.Ed. <sup style="color:#E3A857;">WrestleMania XXVIII <sub style="color:#008000;">The Undertaker 20–0  11:02, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Tim and Eric Nite Live episodes
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:48, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Tim and Eric Nite Live episodes

Redundant to Episode list/sublist. Only used in one article: Tim and Eric Nite Live! DH85868993 (talk) 09:46, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Template is redundant. There's already a template that accomplishes the same job.--SGCM (talk)  16:04, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
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Template:2011U.S.OpenCupBracket
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:42, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * 2011U.S.OpenCupBracket

Unused and incomplete template. Armbrust, B.Ed. <sup style="color:#E3A857;">WrestleMania XXVIII <sub style="color:#008000;">The Undertaker 20–0  09:12, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:History Peer review
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:41, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * History Peer review

Unused. I couldn't find any references to this template in the Peer Review process. DH85868993 (talk) 07:43, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:New topic
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:39, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * New topic

Unused. DH85868993 (talk) 07:36, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Multiplayer
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:39, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Multiplayer

Template is only used in two instances in main space → Aza Toth 03:35, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox District IN
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:34, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox District IN

Redundant to Infobox settlement. Unused (except for transcluding itself). Was previously deleted in 2006. This template is the only content of, so if this template is deleted, that category (which is redundant to ) should also be deleted. DH85868993 (talk) 01:28, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
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