Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 June 13



Template:Saudibox begin

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:18, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Saudibox begin
 * Saudibox image
 * Saudibox ancestry
 * Saudibox offspring
 * Saudibox end
 * Saudibox documentation

seems redundant to template:infobox noble, for example this version using the noble infobox. if we need to keep a special colour, we can always add that to the noble template. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:51, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * This is definitely redundant and antiquated, but is conversion straightforward? My plan when tidying these was always to turn them into wrappers for an infobox template, but I never got around to completing it. That said, there are only ~30 transclusions, so perhaps it's easier just to manually convert them all. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 07:46, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I think manual conversion is the way to go, since there less than 50. seems fairly easy since they are all princes, princesses, ... Frietjes (talk) 15:20, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Iran station

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:18, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox Iran station

Replaceable by the standard Infobox station. Secondarywaltz (talk) 22:13, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * delete Frietjes (talk) 15:56, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Munich station

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:16, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Munich station

Unused and replaceable by the standard Infobox station. Secondarywaltz (talk) 22:00, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * delete Frietjes (talk) 15:56, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox BMCL station

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:15, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox BMCL station

Unused and replaced by Infobox MTR station, because the parent article Bangkok Metro was moved to MRT (Bangkok). Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * delete Frietjes (talk) 15:57, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:NotableLDSinfoListTop

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:15, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * NotableLDSinfoListTop

unused. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 21:21, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox house
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:19, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox house

Redundant to Infobox building, which also has richer features. Has only 130 transclusions (the building infobox has 8091). Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:40, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, Infobox building is far better, and is styled virtually the same. May just need to ensure that the parameter  is added to the building template to ensure all parameters are kept. Zangar (talk) 09:13, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - I think that in that context is covered by . Usage would indicate that that is what the parameter is really used for. Secondarywaltz (talk) 10:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Lang def
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:04, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Lang def

This is a helper template to a template that was deleted earlier at Templates_for_discussion/Log/2012_June_3. The only uses of this template are broken, and unedited since 2007, and one is a copy of the previously deleted main template in userspace. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 06:18, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Polytonic
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The result of the discussion was keep for now, but mark as deprecated or historic. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 18:48, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Polytonic

The former purpose of this template was to invoke a font-family css rule that would correct the display of polytonic Greek in some browsers by specifying a font with sufficient unicode coverage. This browser deficiency is no longer a systematic an issue, and in any event for over five years now the template has simply transcluded Template:Lang + grc. In the article and template namespaces I have accordingly replaced the template as redundant and now propose that it be deleted. A remaining 865 pages in other namespaces transclude Template:Polytonic. I can replace these, or a bot can be drafted for the effort. I note, however, that the template was not always used for Greek (I've even found unaccented French with this template), so a simple mass substitution would occasionally lead to the wrong lang attribute being applied. — [dave] cardiff &#124; chestnut — 01:18, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Fine with me. The other use for the template is to apply personal CSS by selecting on the class name, but that is easily accomplished by using the  attribute in the proposed substitution. Nice to see that the browser pool has advanced enough to start getting rid of these hacks. —Michael Z. 2012-06-13 01:34 z 
 * Good observation, and we should also note that the only major browser that is still floating around that does not support the  selector is (as far as I know) IE6. — [dave] cardiff &#124; chestnut —  01:54, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep for historical reasons, please: I have no objections against phasing out its use, but since this was a frequently used inline template (at least in certain topic domains), deleting it would make very many old revisions of articles unreadable. Fut.Perf. ☼ 05:05, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You've been around a lot longer than I have: can you draft a solid template usage notice explaining that lang + grc should be used, but polytonic remains at a technical level for history purposes? I'm substituting as an uncontroversial redundancy on pages where the template itself isn't under discussion. — [dave] cardiff &#124; chestnut — 05:11, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * We could place something like the following on the /doc subpage: "This template is deprecated. It was previously used to ensure proper font rendering of accented Greek (polytonic) text, in browsers that did not handle automatic font substitution well. This is now handled by the standard language tagging syntax ... . It is recommended to use this syntax instead for marking ancient Greek text. Users who wish to set an individual font preference for Greek formatted text can do so by adding something like the following line to their personal .css file: .[lang=grc] { font-face:Gentium, "Linux Libertine"; } Fut.Perf. ☼ 05:56, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep as FP has shown that my nomination was shortsighted. A clear usage notice should keep the semantic clarity of our approach to lang's and scripts in place. In the two months since I edited this template out of content spaces there have been only a handful of new uses, most of which were reverts of vandalism from before my edit. The relevant parts of the community seem to have recognized the primacy of Template:Lang, and this will probably be even more clearly recognized now that the template has largely been edited out of other namespaces where Template:Polytonic wasn't under discussion. — [dave] cardiff &#124; chestnut — 06:13, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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