Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 June 19



Template:NOLF chronology

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:18, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * NOLF chronology

WP:NENAN: has only 3 links. Not likely to grow anytime soon, also. Izno (talk) 23:28, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:KGVlist

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:22, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * KGVlist

unused, while other KGV templates (e.g., Kgvf-row) are used. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:54, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Instead

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:22, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * instead

unused. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:50, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Inline msg

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:25, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Inline msg

unused and wonky format. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:50, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Highlightgreen

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:25, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Highlightgreen

the only difference between this template as hilite is that this one uses lightgreen by default. what's next, highlightpink and highlightorange? 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:43, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Glasgow Subway railbox
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:49, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Glasgow Subway railbox

unused after replacement with. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:37, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Wikisimpsons
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:50, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikisimpsons

Used to create links to a Simpsons wiki on articles related to The Simpsons. Doesn't comply with WP:EL, also treads into WP:SPAM and WP:NOT. Other wikis are generally not considered reliable and are therefore not appropriate to link to from Wikipedia articles. Generally speaking, we discourage external links to fan wikis such as this (ie. to Wikia). IllaZilla (talk) 22:22, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

delete Looking at how it was used: it was used to compactify precisely two existing external links then immediately spammed across dozens of articles. Mass adding of external links is spam, and all this does is make it easier and helped the person adding the links fly under most people's watchlist radar. I.e. it solves no existing problems just makes it harder to spot spam.-- JohnBlackburne words<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">deeds 18:49, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Wolverine–Hoosier Athletic Conference navbox
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The result of the discussion was keep, assuming the redlink problem will be addressed. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:52, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Wolverine–Hoosier Athletic Conference navbox

Template links to colleges, not college sports teams, with just one exception. ...William 19:11, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Still a useful navbox where there is ample precedent set of these (specifically Category:NAIA conference navigational boxes but also more broadly Category:American college athletic conference navigational boxes) Jrcla2 (talk) 19:26, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment But those templates actually connect to articles. WP:REDNOT states 'Red links are generally not included in either See also sections nor in navigational boxes, nor linked to through templates since these navigation aids are intended to help readers find existing articles.'...William 19:31, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep but modify to get red of the red links either by creating those articles with redirects or just changing the links to point to the athletics part of the main college article, i.e. Aquinas Saints rather than Aquinas Saints Mizzou415 (talk) 19:54, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. With one exception, all of the blue links are basically easter eggs, taking the reader to a place other than expected. On a sports navbox such as this, one expects to go to the articles of the school teams in question.  The ultimate result is a navbox with no useful links, and thus no value. This could be corrected by writing proper stub articles for the school teams - assuming they are notable at this level (I don't know the NAIA well) - and retargetting the links properly to make for a useful navbox. Resolute 23:15, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Jrcla2.--GrapedApe (talk) 02:46, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Jrcla2. No reason to single this navbox out for deletion.  Remove red links if need be. Jweiss11 (talk) 06:48, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Removing the redlinks removes the entire template's purpose for existing. The proper solution is to turn those red links blue by creating proper articles. Resolute 01:56, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Resolute, the existing blue links to the colleges and universities are sufficient to support the navbox. Jweiss11 (talk) 05:25, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Quite the opposite, actually. A navbox related to athletics that has no articles related to athletics makes for a useless template.  The generic links to the overall school articles are designed to create the illusion that this template actually serves a useful navigational purpose. This template was created because someone wanted to create a template, not because it adds value.  And, as I have repeated, the solution is either deletion or to create a purpose for it by writing articles on what it is intended to link. Resolute 13:44, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep and create stub articles to remove redlinks. Billcasey905 (talk) 11:48, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Bondowoso United FC
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  01:13, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Bondowoso United FC

Unused navbox. Parent article, Bondowoso United F.C., has been deleted. Jenks24 (talk) 08:32, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per G8 since the parent article is gone. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:22, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Amusement parks in Thailand
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:55, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Amusement parks in Thailand

WP:NENAN, navigates only 3 articles. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:28, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Ivi Adamou singles
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:56, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Ivi Adamou singles

I merged the contents (for those singles that actually have articles) to the Ivi Adamou. With the number of unlinked items and so few songs by the artist with articles, this is now redundant and unnecessary. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 03:41, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok ;) Eurofan2005 (talk) 02:28, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Anti-inflammatory products
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The result of the discussion was nobody cares? Go ahead and boldly merge the templates if you like and see if anyone objects. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Anti-inflammatory products
 * NSAIDs

Propose merging Template:Anti-inflammatory products with Template:NSAIDs.

These templates seem to be largely redundant. The merge could also be done in the opposite direction as a couple of entries aren't strictly NSARs. ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 16:16, 11 June 2012 (UTC) <hr style="width:55%;" />
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Template:Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine
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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:57, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine

WP:NENAN Night of the Big Wind  <sub style="color:maroon;">talk  23:22, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - NENAN is not a sufficient condition to delete a template. The Audacity of Hype does not link to Andrew Weiss.  Jello Biafra does not link to Billy Gould nor Andrew Weiss.  Billy Gould does not link to Andrew Weiss nor The Audacity of Hype.  Andrew Weiss does not link to Billy Gould nor The Audacity of Hype.  WP:NENAN requires 5 articles, which this has (with potential for a sixth).  This is why we have navigation boxes.  At a minimum, this info should be merged with the template for Jello Biafra.  Thank you for your attention.--Jax 0677 (talk) 01:11, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

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Comment - If a musical ensemble has multiple albums, singles and members (past and present), should all of the articles necessarily reference all of the members, albums and songs? If the ensemble has at least 3 albums or singles, they very often do not all reference each other. Pigface has over 100 members past and present. Listing them all in an article about a song or album is not likely to happen. If the articles are long, the navbox makes it MUCH easier to find the links in question. Using the logic that "articles not linking to one another normally means that a navbox isn't appropriate", then we would not need navboxes at all, because you could argue that all of the links are contained within the article in question. Additionally, where in each article would we put such information? My $0.02.--Jax 0677 (talk) 03:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Template:OfficialZH
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:56, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * OfficialZH

if we really need this, we should make like we have google translation. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 00:05, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Babelfish no longer exists. 70.49.127.65 (talk) 04:06, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Just link to the actual site and use zh icon to tag the link. Also unused... — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:44, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
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