Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 May 6



Template:Aeronautical Institute of Bangladesh

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 02:57, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Aeronautical Institute of Bangladesh

Parent article, Aeronautical Institute of Bangladesh, has been deleted at AfD. Only one bluelink. Jenks24 (talk) 23:10, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, nothing to navigate. mabdul 12:42, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Incomplete

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The result of the discussion was revert to the version dated 15 November 2011. There was little discussion, and therefore no consensus, regarding the template's original wording ('This article is incomplete. ...'), and so I recommend a new discussion if anyone wishes to pursue its deletion. -- Black Falcon (talk) 07:02, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Incomplete

Last TFD resulted in a Keep !vote due to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Somehow, the wording of the template has shifted from "This article is incomplete and may require expansion or cleanup." — which is somewhat vague, but at least accessible — to the vague and useless "Please expand this article." In short, it has become a clone of expand, which was deleted for the very reason of being vague and overused.

I have no idea why the verbiage was changed. No discussion on the talk page or in the TFD suggested that the template should be changed to THE EXACT SAME WORDING as the now-deleted expand. What was the point?

Having only recently been reworded, its "reason" paramter is unused in nearly every transclusion. Either delete or revert to the previous, less vague wording — the word "incomplete" at least narrows it down to "is missing information about something", which is more justifiable than just "needs expansion". Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 07:01, 28 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Agree with TPH. revert to "incomplete, please expand"
 * Template_talk:Incomplete suggests that it should have been changed "incomplete, please expand" to "incomplete" so as to reduce redundancy (I don't care about this either way). However the actual change made was to throw away "incomplete" and keep "expand". This was simply wrong (and then created duplication with expand).  Andy Dingley (talk) 16:05, 28 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Convert to redirect instead of being an intermediate transclusion, just make it a redirect. 70.49.124.225 (talk) 04:05, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to what? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:41, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The current template code says:


 * And I said you should convert to redirect instead of intermediate transclusion, so, as the template currently translcudes expand further, the implication is to redirect it to said template. 70.49.124.225 (talk) 05:14, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * This is a result of trying to put a quart into a pint pot .  Expand further was a highly specialised template, one might even say niche.  Failing to realise that Incomplete should stand on it's own, not surprisingly Expand further got moved to Expand article.  A template with this function is needed, and every attempts to remove it, simply wreaks more havok.  Lets leave well alone now. Keep unchanged. Rich Farmbrough, 01:42, 1 May 2012 (UTC).


 * Do you still agree with this even now that Expand is finally deleted? What purpose do you think "Expand this article" serves when no elaboration is ever made on what needs expansion? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:32, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:31, 6 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom Liam987  06:13, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * revert or delete, but currently it is just expand in disguise. Frietjes (talk) 16:33, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * revert or delete expand mark 2 Mt  king  (edits)  03:11, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:FWB ISIN

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:30, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * FWB ISIN

Deprecated, unused —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:51, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, no longer needed. --Svgalbertian (talk) 11:25, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, unused and deprecated. mabdul 12:43, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:PND

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:30, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * PND

Deprecated, several uses. Slap on Being deleted, place in the holding cell, replace with DNB portal, and then delete. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:48, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Replace with DNB portal or Authority control. (The id numbers haven't changed) --Kolja21 (talk) 06:08, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete or redirect per Kolja21. <span style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; font-size:smaller; color:#000000;">mabdul 12:44, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * delete, these three letter templates are often confused for country flag templates or airport codes. Frietjes (talk) 16:31, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:DM
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * DM

Deprecated, few uses. Replace with DNB portal —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:48, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Replace, but check id number first. (Some numbers have been merged.) --Kolja21 (talk) 05:32, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Examples: Johann Joseph Abert and Max Colpet . --Kolja21 (talk) 02:06, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Replaced with DNB portal. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:27, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to DNB portal. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 10:09, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * What should the redirect be good for? Do you want people to use the deprecated template so we have to clean up every few months? BTW: The abbreviation "DM" (Deutsche Mark) is quiet strange for a link to the former Music-PND, later part of the regular PND and know replaced by the Universal Authority File (GND). --Kolja21 (talk) 13:27, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * delete, these two letter templates are frequently misused, and cause confusing when translating articles from other WPs which have a template named "DM", but it does something else. Frietjes (talk) 16:30, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Sample infobox television
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The result of the discussion was speedy delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:31, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sample infobox television

Speedy delete per G2. As the name implies, it's a test page for the existing television infobox mirroring the destination article's info.
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Template:Shake It Up: Live 2 Dance track listing
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Shake It Up: Live 2 Dance track listing

Only a few songs in list have articles which are already transcluded in the template Shake It Up. The album article itself is a better source for the complete track listing anyway. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:38, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You can't just delete all of my articles like this because this article is a good source, so if you delete this there will be consequences!! ~ RomeAntic14 18:41, 6 May 2012 (UTC)


 * delete as redundant to template:Shake It Up. Note that the comment above appears to be directed at the associated AfD (i.e., article), and not the TfD (i.e. template). 64.134.156.20 (talk) 17:58, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:ISO 639 name
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The result of the discussion was merge Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:29, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ISO 639 name
 * iso2lang

Unnecessary duplicate of template:Language. This was brought up on the talk page last year, but for some reason the discussion did not continue. Liam987 16:06, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Template:iso2lang is also a duplicate. Liam987  16:17, 6 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Which discussion? The only TfD from last year that I recall is Templates for discussion/Log/2011 November 22 which was kept because the nom hadn't appreciated the underlying mechanism. Basically, one outer template uses its parameter to pull in any one of several thousand subtemplates, thus avoiding the need for a large and slow . A similar setup is in use here:  pulls in  thus displaying   -- Red rose64 (talk) 20:32, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * On Template talk:ISO 639 name. And why is it necessary to have three templates (Template:Language, Template:ISO 639 name, Template:Iso2lang) doing the exact same thing? It was also suggested on one of those talk pages that these templates be reconfigured using the magic word, similar to the language template on Commons.  Liam987  06:11, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Abort any such discussion before you fix e.g. wikisourcelang to not use this template. Seeing a link to this TfD from inside that template is most confusing. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 10:09, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect. It is not obvious to me which should be the name of the target page, but here is a case for "iso2lang": "Language" is a somewhat unevocative name, and has only 524 transclusions, while "ISO 639 name" is hard to remember, and the template has a paltry 104 transclusions, against 1661 for .  --Lambiam 01:00, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge as nominator Liam987  16:49, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * merge, redrose has a point about avoiding a switch statement, but that is actually an argument for merging the two templates and eliminating the switch statement. Frietjes (talk) 16:29, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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Combined Carolina Television Network Templates
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:28, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * CBS Carolina
 * NBC Carolina
 * Fox Carolina
 * CW Carolina
 * MNTV Carolina
 * PBS Carolina
 * Other Carolina Stations
 * ABC Carolina
 * ION Carolina

Unnecessary templates created by new user (and the only edits from this user) without discussion. All changes that lead to the templates creations have been reverted and the templates are now orphan. <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 10:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC) 10:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong Deletion: As nom. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 10:50, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * delete as orphaned. Frietjes (talk) 16:27, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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Madonna track listing templates
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * American Life track listing
 * Bedtime Stories track listing
 * Confessions on a Dance Floor track listing
 * Erotica track listing
 * Hard Candy track listing
 * I'm Breathless track listing
 * Like a Prayer track listing
 * Like a Virgin track listing
 * Madonna track listing
 * MDNA track listing
 * Music track listing
 * Ray of Light track listing
 * True Blue track listing

Following the lead and the reasoning behind the deletion of Template:Music of the Sun track listing, too many of the songs don't even have links/articles, and the ones that do are sufficently served by the navigational box Madonna songs. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 03:06, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete all unused and redundant. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  21:42, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete all, completely unnecessary. Bluesatellite (talk) 02:28, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Ray of Light
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ray of Light

Seems to be filled with tangentially related articles in an attempt to justify use of template. Other items are easily linkable from the album and song articles (writers, producers, etc.) and existing artist templates. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 02:15, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * delete per nom, useful navigation is redundant to Template:Madonna songs. 198.102.153.2 (talk) 22:23, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
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