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Template:Info/Escritor

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete, non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:52, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Info/Escritor

This template was created by a user trying to draft an article for Portuguese Wikipedia. (See the discussion at Teahouse/Questions.) In order to support the Portuguese draft they created this template with the name of the Portuguese equivalent of Infobox writer and containing only the signature of the Portuguese template. The template is used only in two copies of the Portugese draft, where it is of no use, being nonfunctional. I have advised the user to use Infobox writer if they wish to create an English version of the article. —teb728 t c 22:47, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Loop to non-English template. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 23:31, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Pittsburgh color

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 03:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Pittsburgh color

unused. Frietjes (talk) 20:43, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Useless template to subst simple code. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 23:29, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Fb rbr t pos TTProLeague12

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 03:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Fb rbr t pos TTProLeague12
 * Fb rbr t pos South Korea12

unused and redundant to fb rbr t pos with various values for p and r. Frietjes (talk) 19:51, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Alberta ministry succession headers

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:02, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ministry Alberta box 1
 * Ministry Alberta box 2
 * Ministry Alberta box 3
 * Ministry Alberta box 4
 * Ministry Alberta box 5
 * Ministry Alberta box 6
 * Ministry Alberta box 7
 * Ministry Alberta box 8
 * Ministry Alberta box 9
 * Ministry Alberta box 10
 * Ministry Alberta box 11
 * Ministry Alberta box 12
 * Ministry Alberta box 13
 * Alberta ministry navigational boxes

replaced by Canadian cabinet member navigational box header. Frietjes (talk) 17:52, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 23:29, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Ministry box office header

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:08, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ministry box office header
 * Ministry box title header

unused and relatively old (outcome of the last TfD was deprecate). Frietjes (talk) 15:56, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Useless. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 23:28, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Cquote requested move

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The result of the discussion was discussion ongoing Plastikspork ―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:50, 9 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Cquote

I have nominated for rename and partial repurposing, to address the concerns raised in the  TfDs this template has narrowly survived already. Nothing has been done to date that adequately addresses those concerns, and the template is still subject to an unbelievable (indeed, worsening) level of rampant abuse, in thousands of articles, mistaking it for the block quotation template. The discussion is at Template talk:Cquote. No forked discussion should take place here at TfD; this is just a courtesy pointer for those who may be interested, since this template has been TfD'd so many times for the same reason. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿ ¤ þ  Contrib.  15:23, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Cite-FEEF2
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:11, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Cite-FEEF2

Single use citation. Subst and delete. Previous TfD from May 2010 — Gadget850 (Ed) talk 12:51, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 23:27, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete As I said on the TFD for the related template Cite-WWT, the 2010 closure is one of the stranger ones I've seen: one keep from creator, three deletes, and the closer decided to keep because he thought it was fine. Baffling. Maralia (talk) 15:52, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
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Template:2013–14 in European football (UEFA)
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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:47, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * 2013–14 in European football (UEFA)

While this template is a part of an acceptable group of templates, I feel it is WP:TOOSOON for this template. It has a huge number of red-links, and if someone creates those articles they will be redirected to the parent article or nominated for deletion. The only articles that are blue-linked but aren't redirects, are the continental competetion plus the 2013 season league articles for the Nordic countries, but they are also a part of Template:2012–13 in European football (UEFA). I think this should be deleted until April/May, when the 2013-14 season articles gets created. Mentoz86 (talk) 07:42, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 12:03, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:35, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

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 * Delete Too soon. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 23:26, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - 2013 is only a few weeks away, and some of these things will be getting articles very soon, as some leagues start early in 2013. 188.221.79.22 (talk) 11:58, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Can someone please change the link on the template so that the "go to discussion link" comes here. Not sure how to do that. 188.221.79.22 (talk) 11:58, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've changed it. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:14, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


 * keep, has enough currently active links. if you don't like redlinks, then comment them out. Frietjes (talk) 17:42, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Samantha Jade
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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:48, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Samantha Jade

Way too early for such a template. Every entry redirects to the same source page. WWGB (talk) 10:19, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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 * Delete - too soon; may be created at a later date when/if the artist has more albums and singles under her belt.  Gongshow  Talk 21:08, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep – Articles have been created for her album and some singles. Also more links have been added. — Oz  (talk)   01:46, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Still only 3 directly related articles. There may be reason enough to create in due time, just not yet. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 04:11, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:11, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

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 * Delete Way way too early FurrySings (talk) 14:49, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * keep, has enough links, the "every entry redirects" situation has apparently changed. Frietjes (talk) 17:41, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Inter-District Championship (Fiji)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:10, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Inter-District Championship (Fiji)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 01:20, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Instructions for requested photographs in Ohio
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The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 17:51, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Instructions for requested photographs in Ohio

unused. Frietjes (talk) 01:19, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as template, but add to an WikiProject Ohio page. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 03:06, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Inner Los Angeles Area
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The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 17:53, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Inner Los Angeles Area

unused. Frietjes (talk) 01:18, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Navbox with non-existent topic article, plus there are also the templates in . - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 02:57, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox plaats in Nederland
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The result of the discussion was delete. Reasoning. Magioladitis (talk) 17:50, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox plaats in Nederland

unused. Frietjes (talk) 01:17, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox indoor football team
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The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 17:49, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox indoor football team

unused and redundant to other templates (e.g., infobox sports team). Frietjes (talk) 01:16, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Speedlight
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The result of the discussion was delete. I took also the previous TfD under consideration. Magioladitis (talk) 17:48, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox Speedlight

unused. Frietjes (talk) 01:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Seinfeld season 3 episode list
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The result of the discussion was Delete. Magioladitis (talk) 16:17, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox Seinfeld season 3 episode list

unused and it appears episodes in this season are using simple previous/next links. Frietjes (talk) 01:06, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Category templates would have been better for this situation to go into NavBoxes. — WylieCoyote 21:38, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Rrogozhinë
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The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 16:16, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox Rrogozhinë

unused and replaced by infobox settlement. Frietjes (talk) 01:05, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 02:55, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Kavajë Artist
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The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 16:14, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox Kavajë Artist
 * Infobox Kavajë Biostub

unused and appears to be a fork of infobox musical artist or infobox person or ... Frietjes (talk) 01:03, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 02:55, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Defunct MiLB (Alternate)
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The result of the discussion was Delete. the only issue raised is now resolved. Magioladitis (talk) 16:19, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Infobox Defunct MiLB (Alternate)

unused, and the trend seems to be toward merging these templates, rather than forking them. Frietjes (talk) 01:01, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete No difference from Infobox Defunct Minor League Baseball. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 02:54, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep : It is used now. Contrary to Presidentman's claim, there is a difference between the two templates, and it was clearly indicated in the edit summary left by the person who created this template: "Created alternate Defunct MiLB infobox for teams that do not have their logos posted on wikipedia."  That difference should be indicated somewhere other than just in that edit summary, granted, but I don't know the appropriate place for it, since I have very limited experience with templates.  It seems like a very useful template for that stated purpose.  The template Infobox Defunct Minor League Baseball currently provides no option for suppressing the logo fields.  I have no particular interest in baseball, so there may well be many pages for which this template would be useful, if given a proper listing pointing out the difference. (It was only my interest in Oregon, not baseball, that led me to discover the usefulness of this template for the two pages where I then proceeded to use it.)  The two pages where I've used the alternate template (Salem Angels and Salem Senators) are teams that have been gone for 25 years or more, pre-Internet, so there's a good chance their logos will remain unavailable on WP for the foreseeable future, and presumably there are many similar cases in other states.  SJ Morg (talk) 16:56, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * There's no major difference though. Why wouldn't Infobox Defunct Minor League Baseball work with the logo field left blank? - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 23:24, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * so we are forking a template just because someone doesn't know how to make the logo optional? seems like a bad idea.  I cleaned up Infobox Defunct Minor League Baseball to make all the parameters optional, and fixed the image alignment.  I would say this is now completely redundant. Frietjes (talk) 15:31, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: Now that Frietjes has modified the main template, I agree that this alternate should be deleted, and I am withdrawing my "keep" vote.  However, it would have been better if Frietjes had done that before nominating the template for deletion.  The difference between the two templates was indicated by the creator of this alternate (user Historyissues) on October 6, and although it is possible to debate whether the difference was "major" or not, the difference did exist, and the deletion nomination should have pointed out what the difference was.  Please don't assume everyone knows how to fix template issues like this one.  Leaving those fields blank did not work until today, after Frietjes modified the general template to make those fields optional, something I had no idea how to do (and evidently neither did the editor who created the alternate template in the first place).  SJ Morg (talk) 18:22, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per my note a few weeks ago now that the image issue is resolved, no need for the alt version. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:09, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
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