Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 January 23



Template:Argentina Squad 2012 FIFA Futsal World Championship

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:18, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Argentina Squad 2012 FIFA Futsal World Championship

all red links. Frietjes (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Arkansas Confederate Artillery Batteries

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The result of the discussion was Delete, clear unintentional fork of Template:Infobox Arkansas Confederate Artillery Batteries. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:33, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Arkansas Confederate Artillery Batteries

unused. Frietjes (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Unless I am missing something, it is being used in teh following articles:
 * 1st Arkansas Light Artillery
 * 2nd Arkansas Light Artillery
 * 3rd Arkansas Light Artillery
 * 1st Arkansas Field Battery
 * 2nd Arkansas Field Battery
 * 3rd Arkansas Field Battery
 * 4th Arkansas Field Battery
 * 5th Arkansas Field Battery
 * 6th Arkansas Field Battery
 * 7th Arkansas Field Battery
 * 8th Arkansas Field Battery
 * 9th Arkansas Field Battery
 * Brown's Arkansas Battery

Aleutian06 (talk) 16:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: I think you are confusing this template with Infobox Arkansas Confederate Artillery Batteries? Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:30, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:ArmWiki Featured Picture

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:18, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ArmWiki Featured Picture

old and unused. Frietjes (talk) 23:57, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Armenia football squad player

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:19, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Armenia football squad start
 * Armenia football squad player

unused fork of football squad player. Frietjes (talk) 23:56, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete by nom, no idea why somebody thought it a good idea to create a nation-specific version of an existing and widely used template... GiantSnowman 09:19, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Armenian Footballer of the Year

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:19, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Armenian Footballer of the Year

unused where as Template:Footballer of the Year in Baltic and Commonwealth of Independent States is used, which includes some of the same awardees. Frietjes (talk) 23:53, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Army of Algeria
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:21, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Army of Algeria

unused and redundant to Template:Algeria Military, which is a better name since this covers more than the army. Frietjes (talk) 23:51, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Astourian 2007
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:23, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Astourian 2007

unused. Frietjes (talk) 23:42, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Spicks and Specks
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:25, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Spicks and Specks

redundant to (1) the previous/next links in the infobox, (2) Bee Gees singles, (3) the Spicks and Specks article. Frietjes (talk) 19:30, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Not enough links to need a separate navbox for just the album. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 22:28, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Funkadelic
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 * Result is No Consensus, default to Keep. Note from closer: the two discussions seem to point to problems in Template:P-Funk, rather than the nominated templates. Moving forward, a concerted effort to improving that template should result in greater clarity regarding the nominated template. Non-admin closure by request at WP:ANRFC by VanIsaacWS Vex<sup style="margin-left:-7.0ex">contribs 03:34, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Funkadelic

Delete as incomplete copy of Template:P-Funk — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 13:59, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Keep  - If all of Template:Funkadelic is captured in Template:P-Funk, exactly where in Template:P-Funk is DeWayne "Blackbyrd" McKnight?--Jax 0677 (talk) 15:02, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It is impractical for a template to include every band member, so Template:P-Funk includes only the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees. The remainder can be found in List of P-Funk members (linked in the template) or Category:P-Funk members. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 15:23, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - As indicated here, the purpose of a navbox is to navigate between different articles with one click. Even the singles from Parliament and Funkadelic are not listed at Template:P-Funk (if I am mistaken, show me where).  Having to go to List of P-Funk members or the discography pages involves one extra step. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:56, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The discography is linked from P-Funk. By the way, how did you choose which Funkadelic albums/singles/members to include in the template? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:00, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Merge  - I've argued this before. It is redundant. FunkMonk (talk) 17:28, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Comment  - I just viewed this page and that page. Neither one contains Template:P-Funk at this time (if I am mistaken show me where).  If this is the case, then neither Template:Funkadelic nor Template:Parliament (band) can be deleted with Template:P-Funk being in its current form.  If these templates should not have been created, then Template:P-Funk should have contained all of the member, album and song articles in the first place.  I will repeat what I stated before, without Template:Funkadelic and Template:Parliament (band), all of the songs and members will not be DIRECTLY linked by navboxes.  This is EXACTLY what a navbox is for, to eliminate the step of having to go to a separate article list to bounce between articles.  I placed in the navboxes whatever articles I had time to insert. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:53, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete' No point in even mergingCosprings (talk) 14:58, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Comment  - My point is that if ALL of the Funkadelic and Parliament songs and musicians are not in Template:P-Funk, then Template:Funkadelic and/or Template:Parliament (band) should likely remain. As indicated above, "It is impractical for a template to include every band member" (referring only to "Template:P-Funk").  I feel that Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars and Malik Shabazz went off topic with their latest comments here. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:22, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

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 * delete as redundant. Frietjes (talk) 19:56, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - I ask  again , if all of Template:Funkadelic is captured in Template:P-Funk, exactly where in Template:P-Funk is DeWayne "Blackbyrd" McKnight? If this question can not be answered with a legitimate location, the template should likely remain. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * that redirect is in List of P-Funk members, which should be put in the above section of Template:P-Funk. problem solved. Frietjes (talk) 23:34, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - No, the problem is not solved until you can get between the two articles with one easy step, which is exactly what a navbox is for. --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:26, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Neither one has all the songs. Keep the one with more relevant information to the topic. It's too wide ranging to limit it or have subtemplates. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 20:36, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Comment  - Since Template:Funkadelic is completed, should Template:P-Funk be deleted? Template:P-Funk now has sixteen "groups", and if my memory serves me correctly, the limit on the number of "groups" is twenty.  Adding the members, live albums, compilations and singles for both bands would put this number up to 24.  Many musicians have one template for the bulk of their information, and one template for their singles.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with this at all. --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:22, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep simply because P-Funk is way too big. It should be split up, and this template (while needing cleanup to remove redlinks, etc) is a start. — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:11, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - Thank you This, that, and the other! BTW, if someone wants to show me what Template:P-Funk would look like with all of the information added, I would love to see it. --Jax 0677 (talk) 04:33, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Template:Parliament (band)
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 * Result is No Consensus, default to Keep. Note from closer: the two discussions seem to point to problems in Template:P-Funk, rather than the nominated templates. Moving forward, a concerted effort to improving that template should result in greater clarity regarding the future of this template. Non-admin closure by request at WP:ANRFC by VanIsaacWS Vex<sup style="margin-left:-7.0ex">contribs 03:35, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Parliament (band)

Delete as incomplete copy of Template:P-Funk — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 13:58, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Keep  - If all of Template:Parliament (band) is contained within Template:P-Funk, exactly where in Template:P-Funk are Tawl Ross and Tiki Fulwood?--Jax 0677 (talk) 14:59, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It is impractical for a template to include every band member, so Template:P-Funk includes only the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees. The remainder can be found in List of P-Funk members (linked in the template) or Category:P-Funk members. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 15:23, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - As indicated here, the purpose of a navbox is to navigate between different articles with one click. Even the singles from Parliament and Funkadelic are not listed at Template:P-Funk (if I am mistaken, show me where).  Having to go to List of P-Funk members or the discography pages involves one extra step. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:56, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The discography is linked from P-Funk. By the way, how did you choose which Parliament albums/singles/members to include in the template? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:01, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Merge  - I've argued this before. It is redundant. FunkMonk (talk) 17:28, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Comment  - I just viewed this page and that page. Neither one contains Template:P-Funk at this time (if I am mistaken show me where).  If this is the case, then neither Template:Funkadelic nor Template:Parliament (band) can be deleted with Template:P-Funk being in its current form.  If these templates should not have been created, then Template:P-Funk should have contained all of the member, album and song articles in the first place.  I will repeat what I stated before, without Template:Funkadelic and Template:Parliament (band), all of the songs and members will not be DIRECTLY linked by navboxes.  This is EXACTLY what a navbox is for, to eliminate the step of having to go to a separate article list to bounce between articles.  I placed in the navboxes whatever articles I had time to insert. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:53, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Wait, you're complaining about a navbox not containing all possible links, yet you regularly create incomplete navboxes and have no problem doing so. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 20:07, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Jax 0677, if you want to make a Parliament template, include all of Parliament's albums and singles, or don't bother creating the template at all. Don't put in a half-way effort just to check it off your to-do list. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:45, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete' No point in even mergingCosprings (talk) 14:58, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Comment  - My point is that if ALL of the Funkadelic and Parliament songs and musicians are not in Template:P-Funk, then Template:Funkadelic and/or Template:Parliament (band) should likely remain. As indicated above, "It is impractical for a template to include every band member" (referring only to "Template:P-Funk").  I feel that Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars and Malik Shabazz went off topic with their latest comments here. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:22, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

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 * delete as redundant. Frietjes (talk) 19:56, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - I ask  again , if all of Template:Parliament (band) is contained within Template:P-Funk, exactly where in Template:P-Funk are Tawl Ross and Tiki Fulwood? If this question can not be answered with a legitimate location, the template should likely remain. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * they are in List of P-Funk members, which should be put in the above section of Template:P-Funk. problem solved. Frietjes (talk) 23:36, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - No, the problem is not solved until you can get between the two articles with one easy step, which is exactly what a navbox is for. --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:26, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Apparently both are incomplete. Keep the one that is more complete. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 20:32, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Comment  - Since Template:Parliament (band) is completed, should Template:P-Funk be deleted then? --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:32, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No, because you delivered the sloppy work, your template should be deleted. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 22:47, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete superfluous <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 22:47, 27 January 2013 (UTC)


 *  Reply  - Banner, I ask  again , if all of Template:Funkadelic is captured in Template:P-Funk, exactly where in Template:P-Funk is DeWayne "Blackbyrd" McKnight? If all of Template:Parliament (band) is contained within Template:P-Funk, exactly where in Template:P-Funk are Tawl Ross and Tiki Fulwood?  Additionally, there are songs, musicians and albums in Template:Funkadelic and Template:Parliament (band) that are not contained within Template:P-Funk.  Template:P-Funk now has sixteen "groups", and if my memory serves me correctly, the limit on the number of "groups" is twenty.  Adding the members, live albums, compilations and singles for both bands would put this number up to 24.  Many musicians have one template for the bulk of their information, and one template for their singles.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with this at all.  Assuming my work is "sloppy", WP:POORLY covers this.


 * If this question can not be answered with a legitimate location, the template should likely remain. --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:16, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Seems like Jax has an excuse for everything. Too bad he can't put as much time in the navboxes he creates as he does trying to defend them. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 19:50, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - The preceeding comment has nothing to do with whether or not a navbox should exist. I have done my best to answer all of the questions posed in this TfD, yet many of my questions have not been answered legitimately.  If there is confidence that my template should be deleted, then people should answer my questions directly instead of avoiding them (unless of course the answers are none of my business, in which case people should explain why). --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:58, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep simply because P-Funk is way too big. It should be split up, and this template (while needing cleanup to remove redlinks, etc) is a start. — This, that, and the other (talk)  11:12, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - Thank you This, that, and the other! BTW, if someone wants to show me what Template:P-Funk would look like with all of the information added, I would love to see it. --Jax 0677 (talk) 04:33, 7 February 2013 (UTC)