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Template:ModernpentathlonAt2012SummerOlympics

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The result of the discussion was redirect Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:39, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ModernpentathlonAt2012SummerOlympics

Unused duplicate with Template:ModernPentathlonAt2012SummerOlympics (diff in capitalization). HandsomeFella (talk) 23:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * redirect? 198.102.153.2 (talk) 01:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the correct template -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 06:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, it could be kept, but on the other hand, it's not likely to be used in any new articles. The articles that are canditates to using it already exist, and use "the real template", so there's really no reason to keep it as a redirect. HandsomeFella (talk) 07:12, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:CHEAP; there's no space savings to deletion, since the entire edit history of the deleted page is still kept in the database, access is just restricted to admins. -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 11:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * There is obviously some saving, albeit negligible, and I assume that this is what you are referring to. If there were none, why would there be nominations for deletion anyway? Also, given the fact (mentioned above) that all articles that reasonably would be potential candidates for using this template are already written, and use the other template, why keep a redirect? Any search for this template would return the other template (too) in the result list, as the spelling is identical. HandsomeFella (talk) 15:54, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * sounds like a debate for WP:RFD. Frietjes (talk) 17:05, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Tracklisting: Original 1995 Release

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:41, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Tracklisting: Original 1995 Release

unused duplicate of Love is an Illusion. Frietjes (talk) 23:06, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Good find. Delete per nom. Unused and useless as a template. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 20:00, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Toronto Eagles current squad

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:41, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Toronto Eagles current squad

out of date and replaced by roster in the article. Frietjes (talk) 22:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Tornado Chart Season

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:42, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Tornado Chart Season

old and unused. Frietjes (talk) 22:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Topics related to saffron

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:43, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Topics related to saffron

unused. Frietjes (talk) 22:46, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete how is this protected as "highly visible" when it isn't even used? -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 05:41, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Topicphil
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The result of the discussion was delete per author approval. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 05:19, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Topicphil

old and unused. Frietjes (talk) 22:45, 8 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete -- no objection from its creator.Greg Bard (talk) 23:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Topical guide
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The result of the discussion was delete, if someone wants to create the redirect, go ahead. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:43, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Topical guide

unused and deprecated hatnote. Frietjes (talk) 22:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to outline -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 05:38, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Toonquote
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:44, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Toonquote

unused fork of centered pull quote. Frietjes (talk) 22:43, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:UK-SLD
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:47, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * UK-SLD

Deprecated and superseded, ~125 uses. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Superseded. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:07, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep There are still over a hundred instances of the template in use, and the different parameter structure means a straightforward redirect wouldn't work. The existing uses should be converted before a deletion is proposed. Mauls (talk) 10:09, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Response The fact that it's in use is basically irrelevant: that's why Being deleted exists. Also, having this discussion will probably spur other editors to actually replace this template which was superseded years ago. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:42, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * delete after replacement. Frietjes (talk) 17:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Pittsburgh neighborhood
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:52, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Infobox Pittsburgh neighborhood

Deprecated, few uses. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. I've already been replacing uses with Infobox settlement. There's also . Mackensen (talk) 19:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:27, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep for now, because it's still used in numerous articles. Delete as redundant as soon as it's not used anymore.  Nyttend (talk) 18:13, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Hang on
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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:54, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hang on

Deprecated, with only uses outside of Main namespace —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep there's no other way to dispute slow-speedy-deletions. The current templates for slow-F4 deletions do not ask administrators to check the talk pages for objections and those deletion processes do not have discussion areas -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 06:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment this will necessarily be unused most of the time, since it is used on Speedy-Deletion nominations, which will either be kept, deleted, or converted to regular deletion, thus removing the template from use. -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 06:31, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Since this template has been deprecated, the contested instructions for such page falling under CSD should also be updated accordingly (especially the policy page describing such instructions) --G(x) (talk) 03:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep – Although the page says "deprecated", it does not explain what replaces it; e. g., how can a Di-no source be contested? Even when a method to contest will be presented in every deletion template, this template ought to be kept as a documentation template as it is likely to be the first port of call for many editors because of its long-standing functionality. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:42, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a useful template if you're familiar with it.  If someone's incorrectly tagged your newly-created article for speedy deletion, there's no better way to notify the admin patrolling CAT:CSD that the talk page contests the tag; it's very easy to overlook the present of content on the talk page, especially since most talk pages of speedy-tagged articles have nothing except wikiproject tags.  Nyttend (talk) 18:10, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep and un-deprecate (restore to good standing). This template is appropriate for an article creator to use to object a speedy deletion. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:43, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per comment of Nyttend and Metropolitan90. The new instructions may not be enough sufficient to notify that there has been a discussion concerning the contested CSD. --G(x) (talk) 09:04, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Incomplete table
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The result of the discussion was redirect Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:59, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Incomplete table

Deprecated, unused. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to incomplete as an intermediate transclusion. -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 06:27, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
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Officer Ranks and Insignia of the South African armed forces
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:38, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Officer Ranks and Insignia of the South African Air Force
 * Officer Ranks and Insignia of the South African Army
 * Officer Ranks and Insignia of the South African Navy

These three templates had a TfD notice added to them in August 2012 by Farawayman, but they were not added to the TfD log. The edit summaries were: "Template viability is wholly dependent on use of fair use images, which are not permitted within templates." The army and navy templates are orphaned. -- Patchy1 01:34, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep If you had checked before, you would have noticed that there are no fair use images in the template, thus rendering your rationale invalid. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:06, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If you had checked before, you would have noticed that the majority of the images in templates have been removed and deleted from commons for having the wrong copyright information, but if they were still on the commons they would be fair use images, thus rendering Farawayman's rationale perfectly valid. -- Patchy1 23:33, 14 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - Each of these templates uses a free image in some way. The Navy one uses has 2 while all the Army ranks are non free. Our workaround has been to create tables on the relevant pages. This is also against the rules but after a discussion we were allowed to keep as is Gbawden (talk) 06:15, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * delete. Frietjes (talk) 00:05, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:X-American-list-start
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:39, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * X-American-list-start
 * X-American-list-end
 * X-American-list-entry

unused. Frietjes (talk) 00:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see a use for them here as there is no information to suggest a possible use. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:07, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment if this were generalized to non-Americans it could be useful in genealogical tables for list of descendants in family articles -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 06:29, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Indoor arenas under construction in Romania
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:32, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Indoor arenas under construction in Romania

unused and low value in terms of number of links. Frietjes (talk) 00:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:28, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as interesting, but redundant and quite useless. WikiCopter (t • c • onau) 00:46, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox CPV Congresses
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:32, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Infobox CPV Congresses

unused. Frietjes (talk) 00:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:37, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Intangible Cultural Heritage
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:29, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Infobox Intangible Cultural Heritage

unused documentation for a non-existing template. Frietjes (talk) 00:38, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:42, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox National City (Ukraine)
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:29, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Infobox National City (Ukraine)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 00:36, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:41, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Philippine legislation
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Infobox Philippine legislation

unused and replaced by template:infobox legislation. Frietjes (talk) 00:35, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:33, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Pittsburgh neighborhood 2010
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:23, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Infobox Pittsburgh neighborhood 2010

fork of template:Infobox Pittsburgh neighborhood to allow for new census data. we should fix the main template rather than forking it. Frietjes (talk) 00:34, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete The parent template can be edited easily enough. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:08, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete although both nomination and first commenter miss that I and the template creator had already agreed to deprecate both in favor of Infobox settlement and have replaced two-thirds of the transclusions. This TfD isn't necessary or helpful, but whatever. Mackensen (talk) 20:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * unless the creator tags it for deletion, it is a necessary step to have it deleted, "but whatever". Frietjes (talk) 22:27, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I didn't see the point. While I'd gotten side-tracked the maintenance task was mostly done. I'm more concerned that apparently no one actually read the talk page of the template, where your actual solution was proposed, discussed, and implemented. Mackensen (talk) 23:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox TT Races report
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:25, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Infobox TT Races report

appears to have been replaced by template:Infobox Grand Prix motorcycle race report. Frietjes (talk) 00:32, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:34, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:1 typhoon season buttons
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * 1 typhoon season buttons

unused. Frietjes (talk) 00:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:"comparison of macronutrients in common foods"
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * "comparison of macronutrients in common foods"

unused. Frietjes (talk) 00:25, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Walter Becker
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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 05:02, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Walter Becker

Artist who only released two solo albums. Easy navigation from artist page and albums to and from one another; WP:NENAN. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 00:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete/Merge With Template:Steely Dan. Especially considering that Fagen worked with him on these albums--it's not really a stretch to throw those two onto that template. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:59, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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