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Template:Driven Music Group

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 20:38, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Driven Music Group

No need for a template for a record label with all albums issued and all bands signed. This is more a coat rack than a useful nav box. The Banner talk 21:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * delete, never been a fan of label-centric navboxes which simply join together less notable band discographies. the one's that have sufficient content have navboxes, so nothing major is lost. Frietjes (talk) 13:53, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per Frietjes. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:14, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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Jax templates failing WP:NENAN (2nd cluster)

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The result of the discussion was keep Fiona, Kevin Gilbert, Tommy Shaw, and Sidewalk Prophets, delete the rest. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:31, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Fiona (singer)
 * The New Cities
 * Suzzy Roche
 * Kevin Gilbert
 * Tommy Shaw
 * Misery Signals
 * Sidewalk Prophets
 * The Budos Band
 * The Duskfall
 * The Red Shore
 * Sky Eats Airplane
 * The Secret Handshake
 * Morningwood

Fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 21:22, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose deletion for Suzzy Roche She has a somewhat significant career outside of The Roches. Her navbox actually has more info than the one for The Roches even though it does not contain any duplicate info. If you added her film roles, it would even have more. Eauhomme (talk) 02:28, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Feel free to improve the template to such an extent that is has five or more relevant links. (And when you need help with that, try my talkpage) The Banner talk 19:42, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Fiona, not about Fiona -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 06:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep Tommy Shaw (a sign these are being nominated too quickly); Keep Fiona (now has five albums), The New Cities, Kevin Gilbert (see Kevin Gilbert), Misery Signals (see Misery Signals), Sidewalk Prophets (see Sidewalk Prophets), The Secret Handshake; Delete Suzzy Roche (we don't have actor templates, and there is apparently not enough of a musical career), The Budos Band (albums are sequential and well connected), Sky Eats Airplane; indifferent The Duskfall, The Red Shore, Morningwood. Frietjes (talk) 13:51, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * @Tom Shaw Request speedy close as keep because I clearly made a mistake by nominating this for deletion. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 19:40, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Tommy Shaw and Fiona, which both have five core links. Delete others, because they don't have 5 core links. The fact that more albums are listed in a discography is not the same as having articles on those albums to navigate between ... and if we don't have articles, it may well be because the albums are not notable. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:18, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Animals as Leaders
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 20:38, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Animals as Leaders

not enough albums to justify a navbox. Frietjes (talk) 18:11, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete There's hardly enough related articles on the band at this point to warrant a template. Possibly we could revisit creating this template if/when the band seems to have a bigger discography and assortment of related articles.  LazyBastard Guy  21:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Only 2 albums, so no navbox needed. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:20, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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Template:2012 League of Ireland Premier Division table
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The result of the discussion was delete after substitution. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 20:38, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * 2012 League of Ireland Premier Division table
 * 2011 League of Ireland Premier Division table
 * 2010 League of Ireland First Division table
 * 2010 League of Ireland Premier Division table
 * FAI League of Ireland First Division 2009 Table
 * 2011 League of Ireland First Division table
 * FAI League of Ireland Premier Division 2008 Table
 * First Division 2008 Table

Subst and delete. Redundant since league is over. Kingjeff (talk) 17:29, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete Pointless having them as templates now. Number   5  7  17:52, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete I don't think whether information is current or not makes a difference, but these are used on a very small number of articles with little prospect for growth - seasonal articles for clubs which have average attendances of 1500 is a very narrow topic area. SFB 19:23, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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Template:The "Wives" Franchise
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 20:39, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The "Wives" Franchise

The article that this template would link to, The "Wives" Franchise, has been deleted twice now. It is now time for this template to go. – Recollected •   17:00, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment that the main article was deleted doesn't mean that the articles that we have shouldn't have a navigation template. Many nav templates have no main article. -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 06:13, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete indiscriminate navigation between objects with shared names, per the AFD, this is not a franchise. If this were a category, I'd point out WP:OC -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 06:15, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Chitchat
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:22, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Chitchat

Redundant to Template:Uw-chat1 and the like. ViperSnake151  Talk  14:24, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Soulsavers
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:20, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Soulsavers

Seems to fail WP:NENAN, unless the collaborators are important enough to be recognized as relevant links. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 13:03, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * weak keep, four albums + one band link is enough, and Soulsavers indicates there is an EP there as well. Frietjes (talk) 16:13, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. With only 4 albums, it fails WP:NENAN, which requires an absolute minimum of 4 core links (not counting the head article). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:23, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Bieler Bros. Records
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 20:39, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Bieler Bros. Records

No need for a template for a record label with all albums issued and all bands signed. This is more a coat rack than a useful nav box. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 12:27, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * delete, never been a fan of label-centric navboxes which simply join together less notable band discographies. Frietjes (talk) 16:12, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete There's be no reason to transclude these is the listed articles if their only connection is that they share the same record label. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 18:47, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per Frietjes and per Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:24, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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Jax templates failing WP:NENAN (1st cluster)
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The result of the discussion was keep Stevie and Alien Sex Fiend and delete the rest. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:20, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Luti-Kriss
 * McLean
 * Timmy T
 * Stevie B
 * Chesney Hawkes
 * Alien Sex Fiend
 * Ima Robot
 * For the Fallen Dreams
 * Jo O'Meara
 * Brutality
 * Anew Revolution
 * Grotesque
 * Discordance Axis
 * A Thorn for Every Heart
 * Matchbook Romance
 * Dead to Fall

Fails WP:NENAN <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 08:16, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * delete Luti-Kriss, McLean, Timmy T, Chesney Hawkes (weak delete), Ima Robot, Jo O'Meara, Brutality, Grotesque, Discordance Axis, Matchbook Romance, Dead to Fall (weak delete, not active); keep Stevie B, Alien Sex Fiend; weak keep For the Fallen Dreams, Anew Revolution, A Thorn for Every Heart. Frietjes (talk) 16:32, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Stevie B, Alien Sex Fiend, but Delete all the others. With only 4 albums, the templates listed by Frietjes as "weak keep" (For the Fallen Dreams, Anew Revolution, A Thorn for Every Hear) all fail WP:NENAN, which requires an absolute minimum of 4 core links (not counting the head article). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:28, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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