Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 March 14



Template:User stub

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:57, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * User stub

Single-use template. Substitute and delete, or move to user space. Stefan2 (talk) 19:21, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Yeah, that's really weird. --BDD (talk) 21:58, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per above Mediran  ( t  •  c ) 06:53, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Mesopotamian myth (50)

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:57, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Mesopotamian myth (50)
 * Mesopotamian myth (Babylon)
 * Mesopotamian myth (demons)
 * Mesopotamian myth (heroes)
 * Mesopotamian myth (primordial)

I combined these templates into one in May 2012 but forgot to deprecate them until now. They used to provide nearly identical functionality across six different templates, which was probably a huge pain to keep consistent. The main template currently exists at Template:Mesopotamian myth and I am nominating the five other templates that I aggregated into that one since they are no longer used and their functionality is 100% duplicated by the main template. Axem Titanium (talk) 19:02, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * For the curious, this is what the six template series used to look like:     . As you can see, there was considerable stylistic drift as the templates evolved away from each other and used some needlessly complex wikisyntaxing across the board. The current implementation employs modern standards, including the new hlist functionality for cleaner bulleted lists. Axem Titanium (talk) 19:10, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Unused and redundant to the merged master. T3 by any other name. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:09, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
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Template:List fact

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:58, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * List fact

This tag is infrequently used, and—judging by current transclusions—rarely used correctly. It adds little to nothing to the mother of all templates, cn, which I suspect is how most editors tag list entries anyway. BDD (talk) 18:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete name confusable with cn usage same as disputed -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 00:13, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
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College basketball conference season navboxes

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:58, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * 2009–10 Atlantic Coast Conference women's basketball navbox
 * 2010–11 Atlantic 10 Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2011–12 Atlantic 10 Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2012–13 Atlantic 10 Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2012–13 Atlantic Coast Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2013–14 Atlantic Coast Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2006–07 Big 12 Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2007–08 Big 12 Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2008–09 Big 12 Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2008–09 Big 12 Conference women's basketball navbox
 * 2009–10 Big 12 Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2009–10 Big 12 Conference women's basketball navbox
 * 2010–11 Big 12 Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2011–12 Big 12 Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2012–13 Big 12 Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2012–13 Big 12 men's basketball navbox
 * 2010–11 Big South Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2011–12 Big South Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2006–07 Big Ten Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2007–08 Big Ten Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2008–09 Big Ten Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2009–10 Big Ten Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2009–10 Big Ten Conference women's basketball navbox
 * 2010–11 Big Ten Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2011–12 Big Ten Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2012–13 Big Ten Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2007–08 Horizon League men's basketball navbox
 * 2008–09 Horizon League men's basketball navbox
 * 2009–10 Horizon League men's basketball navbox
 * 2010–11 Horizon League men's basketball navbox
 * 2011–12 Horizon League men's basketball navbox
 * 2012–13 Horizon League men's basketball navbox
 * 2008–09 Mid-American Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2009–10 Mid-American Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2009–10 Pacific-10 Conference women's basketball navbox
 * 2011–12 Pacific-12 Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2012–13 Pacific-12 Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2007–08 Southeastern Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2008–09 Southeastern Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2009–10 Southeastern Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2010–11 Southeastern Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2011–12 Southeastern Conference men's basketball navbox
 * 2012–13 Southeastern Conference men's basketball navbox
 * Category:NCAA Division I basketball conference season navigational boxes

Delete all – These are footer navbox retreads of standings templates and conference-specific season categories. In all reality they don't serve much of a useful navigation that the standings and categories don't already provide. WikiProject College Basketball works closely with WikiProject College Football to standardize college sports' articles, categories, navboxes, etc. so that users can easily jump from one sport to the other without much difficulty; how that pertains to this mass TfD is that there was previously a mass TfD involving college football conference season navboxes (found here) and the result was delete all. I think all of the basketball navboxes should now follow suit. Jrcla2 (talk) 02:34, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete all per Jrcla2 and WikiProject College football. Jweiss11 (talk) 02:52, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete the whole lot of them' Too specific for navboxes.--GrapedApe (talk) 03:27, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete all Conference standings like 2012–13 SEC men's basketball standings transcluded in the top right of every team article already has the same links as in the templates proposed here.—Bagumba (talk) 04:11, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Added Template:2011–12 Pacific-12 Conference men's basketball navbox and Template:2012–13 Pacific-12 Conference men's basketball navbox to the nomination.—Bagumba (talk) 04:14, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Ironically, I apparently created the 2011–12 Pacific-12 one and followed the herd. So count one of the creators as now a proponent of deletion.—Bagumba (talk) 04:30, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per Jrcla's nomination. There's nothing left to say.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 05:04, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete with mild reluctance as I created the 2007–08, 2008–09, 2009–10, and 2010–11 Southeastern Conference men's basketball navboxes, not realizing that the seasons-by-team were linked in the conference standings. (It's not all that obvious unless you hover over the links.) But if consensus is that footer navigation is redundant, so be it. - Dravecky (talk) 06:45, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Addendum: I have to !vote keep for the 2007–08 Southeastern Conference men's basketball navbox as it has not yet been made redundant by a season standing navbox. That footer is currently the only template linking those seasons-by-team together. If a suitable conference standings navbox were created to replace it, I would of course withdraw this objection. - Dravecky (talk) 06:50, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * But Category:2007–08 Southeastern Conference men's basketball season exists, which is one of two possible ways to make this navbox redundant. Just because a standings template does not yet exist doesn't mean a navbox should, especially when the SEC season category already does. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:23, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Per the WP:NOTDUP guideline, "It is neither improper nor uncommon to simultaneously have a category, a list, and a navigation template which all cover the same topic. These redundant systems of organizing information are considered to be complementary, not inappropriately duplicative." - Dravecky (talk) 15:45, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * For consistency, it seems this one navbox should deleted and recreated as Template:2007–08 SEC men's basketball standings, similar to existing Template:2012–13 SEC men's basketball standings and others at Category:Southeastern Conference men's basketball standings templates.—Bagumba (talk) 16:01, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, I agree, but the deletion of this one footer navbox should be delayed until such time as the replacement is created. The deletion rationale is that these are all redundant... and this one is not yet so. - Dravecky (talk) 10:31, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * If even one of these navboxes survives, its mere existence could inspire someone to make more of them. All of these need to be eradicated; if a single survives, there is high potential for re-spawning. Jrcla2 (talk) 16:49, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to chime in that I have created the standings template in question, so all of the listed navboxes should now be redundant. If I'm wrong, feel free to leave a message for me on my page, and I'll get them made. --fuzzy510 (talk) 08:27, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * With the footer now properly redundant, I withdraw my objection and return to a pure "delete all". - Dravecky (talk) 09:04, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Fuzzy510, thanks for knocking out that standings template. Jrcla2 has an excellent point about re-spawning.
 * Delete all per nom. Axem Titanium (talk) 19:11, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
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