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Template:Egypt Squad 2011 African Youth Championship

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:17, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Egypt Squad 2011 African Youth Championship

Delete template and similar in the same tournament (5 navboxes total) per this deletion discussion and this one, which established that these types of navboxes fail WP:NAVBOX 2-4. C 679 19:24, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
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 * delete Frietjes (talk) 18:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per previous consensus. GiantSnowman 16:44, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Ghana Squad 2011 African Youth Championship

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Ghana Squad 2011 African Youth Championship

Delete template and similar in the same tournament (5 navboxes total) per this deletion discussion and this one, which established that these types of navboxes fail WP:NAVBOX 2-4. C 679 19:23, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * delete Frietjes (talk) 18:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per previous consensus. GiantSnowman 16:44, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Nigeria Squad 2011 African Youth Championship

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:14, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Nigeria Squad 2011 African Youth Championship

Delete template and similar in the same tournament (5 navboxes total) per this deletion discussion and this one, which established that these types of navboxes fail WP:NAVBOX 2-4. C 679 19:22, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * delete Frietjes (talk) 18:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per previous consensus. GiantSnowman 16:44, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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Template:South Africa Squad 2011 African Youth Championship

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * South Africa Squad 2011 African Youth Championship

Delete template and similar in the same tournament (5 navboxes total) per this deletion discussion and this one, which established that these types of navboxes fail WP:NAVBOX 2-4. C 679 19:21, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * delete Frietjes (talk) 18:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per previous consensus. GiantSnowman 16:44, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Cameroon Squad 2011 African Youth Championship

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:12, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Cameroon Squad 2011 African Youth Championship

Delete template and similar in the same tournament (5 navboxes total) per this deletion discussion and this one, which established that these types of navboxes fail WP:NAVBOX 2-4. C 679 19:21, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * delete Frietjes (talk) 18:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per previous consensus. GiantSnowman 16:44, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox lake
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The result of the discussion was merge Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:50, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Infobox lake
 * Infobox ocean
 * Infobox bay

Propose merging Template:Infobox lake with Template:Infobox ocean.

propose merging infobox lake and infobox ocean to create infobox waterbody. I just went through all the transclusions of infobox ocean and, interestingly, many of them were using the parameters for, and none of them are oceans. using a size-neutral name would avoid this issue. given the number of tranclusions and the template ages, it would involve moving infobox lake to, then adding any missing parameters to that template, then redirecting the ocean template to the new waterbody template. no information would be lost. Frietjes (talk) 16:16, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support, keeping both existing template names as redirects. Note that there are some outstanding proposals for additional parameters on the lake template's talk page, which could be added when the new template is created. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:35, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Yeah, this is exactly what I said! Technical 13 (talk) 17:47, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment if merged, start a new edit history at infobox body of water or infobox waterbody, and merge and redirect the two infoboxes ; also redirect infobox sea, infobox gulf and infobox pond to it. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 00:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * no need for a new edit history when they are all forks of infobox lake (as stated in the edit history for infobox bay, and clear in the edit history of infobox ocean). Frietjes (talk) 17:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment what about infobox bay ? -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 00:20, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * yes, that one should be merged also. Frietjes (talk) 17:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment; I generally support on the basis that infobox dam has revised text encouraging use relating to man-made reservoirs, instead of infobox lake. My observations are that infobox lake appears incorrectly and widely used relating to the body of water, where the correct subject matter should be the dam, that provides content for the impounded water. However, not all lakes are near the ocean/sea/bay. For example, Australia has a number of inland lakes that have no primary inflow or outflow (see the following endorheic lakes: Lake George, Lake Eyre, and Lake Corangamite). A redirect may also be worthwhile for infobox reservoir, and it should by shifted from infobox lake to infobox dam. Rangasyd (talk) 09:57, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd object to redirecting to infobox dam; I've used infobox lake on a number of articles about reservoirs, where they are more notable then the dam which contains them, or where there is no dam. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support, but can we call it infobox body of water rather than making up a new word please! —  Scott  •  talk  16:18, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * according to waterbody and template:coord it is an existing word. Frietjes (talk) 18:52, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support &mdash;  MJC detroit  (tell me) 02:34, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Good idea.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  21:19, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Number 1 country singels of 2012
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 03:09, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Number 1 country singels of 2012

Misspelled, redundant to succession boxes and List of number-one country singles of 2012 (U.S.). Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 07:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * delete, over templating Frietjes (talk) 18:05, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete as duplicate. Technical 13 (talk) 18:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Going completely overboard here. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Keith Urban No.1 Singles
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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:36, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keith Urban No.1 Singles

Redundant to Template:Keith Urban singles. See also Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_April_18 and Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_April_18. Eric444 (talk) 06:44, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * delete Frietjes (talk) 18:04, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Technical 13 (talk) 18:07, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per the reasoning stated in the TfDs for the templates listed in nomination. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:08, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
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Baseball team inaugural season templates
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 02:40, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * 1882 Pittsburgh Alleghenys
 * 1882 St. Louis Brown Stockings
 * 1961 Los Angeles Angels
 * 1961 Washington Senators
 * 1962 Houston Colt .45s
 * 1962 New York Mets
 * 1969 Kansas City Royals
 * 1969 Montreal Expos
 * 1969 San Diego Padres
 * 1969 Seattle Pilots
 * 1977 Seattle Mariners
 * 1977 Toronto Blue Jays
 * 1993 Colorado Rockies
 * 1993 Florida Marlins
 * 1998 Arizona Diamondbacks
 * 1998 Tampa Bay Devil Rays

Arbitrary, clutter, WP:NENAN. There is nothing about being on the roster of a franchise that played its first season in MLB that is more special than the third, eleventh or fifty-seventh season was. Basically a list in template space as this is not a useful navigational aid; in many cases, it simply reflects not-significant intersections of players at a single moment in time. Resolute 01:02, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete All - If one really wants to visit the players of the inaugural season of a franchise, they can go to the season page. Neonblak <sup style="color:darkblue;">talk  -  01:37, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete All per nom and Neonblak. -DJSasso (talk) 15:05, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete all Strong arguments. And IIRC, I created at least one or two of these templates back in the day. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:06, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
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