Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 November 10



Template:Infobox fictional musical artist

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The result of the discussion was delete per Frietjes' demonstration that it is redundant to another template Magioladitis (talk) 01:07, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Infobox fictional musical artist

Fork of Template:Infobox musical artist created for the Gorillaz article. eh bien mon prince (talk) 22:39, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Can someone explain the issue with this to me? Previously there was no was to differentiate between real artists and fictional artists in a virtual band infobox, this allows for both to be displayed. Other virtual band pages could also use this infobox, it's not as if this would ONLY be useful for the Gorillaz page. Diesal 11 (talk) 03:14, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Just add the required parameters to the standard template if they're necessary. Forking a template is never a good idea if it can be avoided, and in this case the two templates are substantially identical.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 22:51, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * delete, can be replaced [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gorillaz&diff=582297608&oldid=581849096 like this]. I agree we should not be forking templates for one article. if this feature is going to be widely used, then bring it up at template talk:infobox musical artist. Frietjes (talk) 00:57, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Somali faction

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:42, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Infobox Somali faction

Wrapper of Template:Infobox war faction with 19 transclusions. The only difference from the standard is that the  parameter is set to "Somali Civil War", so it could be substituted and deleted. eh bien mon prince (talk) 22:27, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * delete after substitution. Frietjes (talk) 23:30, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Türkvizyon 2013

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 03:45, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Türkvizyon 2013

Crystal bol The Banner talk 22:13, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * You mean WP:CRYSTAL? Anyway, I agree that the navbox is useless in its current form, and that unless some on-topic blue links are added it should be deleted.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 22:30, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - The template does not violate WP:CRYSTAL. These navboxes have been created by WP:ESC for as long as I have been a member.  Template:Eurovision Song Contest 2014, Template:Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2013 are a few examples of navboxes created for future events.  Türkvizyon 2013 is an event that take place next month, and national pre-selections are taking place already, with the navbox regularly updated once an artist/song has been selected.  This deletion nomination seems a bit heavy-handed, especially when point 1 of WP:CRYSTAL clearly states "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place."  this this event comes under that exemption.   Wesley   Mᴥuse  23:19, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * You seem to know already who of the 20 participating countries make it to the final, as you are filling them in while the article is talking about two semi-finals and a final. Not a word about direct placing in the final there. The Banner talk 23:53, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I am not liking you bitchy tone or attitude. Who do you think you are?  The event is a future event, which as each participant is selected, then the article gets updated accordingly.  That, my friend, is known as building an encyclopaedic article gradually.  Rome was not built in a day, and if I recall there is no rush either.   Wesley   Mᴥuse  23:57, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I've just noticed what you mean. I thought I had added the semi-final sections too.  My bad, sorry.  They are suppose to be in semi-final columns, not finalists.   Wesley   Mᴥuse  00:11, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - This is a template that will be used alot in the years to come to make it easier to navigate through this subject. I say keep it. --BabbaQ (talk) 19:19, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete violates policy, event is not yet notable. The main articles are only have primary sources.--Loomspicker (talk) 20:27, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Would you care to elaborate which policy it is violating, as this could be something worth raising to the rest of Project Eurovision, seeing as these type of templates have been created every year over the last 10 years of the Project's existence.  Wesley   Mᴥuse  09:44, 15 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Note - This template is now functioning in the sole purpose it was designed for. By that I mean, it is now used on multiple articles relating to Turkvizyon 2013, to enable readers to navigate with much ease from one article to the next.   Wesley   Mᴥuse  01:16, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Fright Night

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 02:42, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Fright Night

Delete - the template will likely never have more than four entries and is not helpful for navigation between the articles, which are extensively interlinked through text. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 00:07, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep: it is helpful for navigation, period. Only the first article is interlinked with all the three others through text. This kind of templates is quite common for film series, and I don't see strong arguments for a deletion here. Cavarrone 19:43, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Nonsense. Supposed failure to create proper text links is no excuse for keeping a worthless template and a simple check of the "what links here" feature shows that the four articles are interlinked. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 08:28, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Laughable. Sure, the simple check of the "what links here" feature shows that all the four articles are currently interlinked, and in fact they are currently interlinked through this template. Your own arguments show that this template is helpful and not "worthless", thank you very much. Cavarrone 10:57, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
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