Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 September 4



Template:Premier league table 2007/08

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:01, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Premier league table 2007/08

Unused template Brayan Jaimes (talk) 23:13, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * delete Frietjes (talk) 23:06, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Fb c13 qr

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Fb c13 qr

Unused template Brayan Jaimes (talk) 23:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * delete Frietjes (talk) 23:06, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
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Template:LDSPluralwifeinfo

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as T3 by AnomieBOT ⚡  13:53, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * LDSPluralwifeinfo

I am not sure what the creator was trying to do when he/she created this template, but it was only used on one page, and it was very easily replaced using the Standard Infobox person template. It is now no longer used. --ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 20:03, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. It looks like an old experiment, and it's unused and not needed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:24, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Call of Duty chronology

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The result of the discussion was relisted on Templates for discussion/Log/2013 September 17. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:50, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Call of Duty chronology


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Template:LDSpresidingbishopric

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The result of the discussion was merged Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * LDSpresidingbishopric
 * LDSpresidingbishop

Propose merging Template:LDSpresidingbishopric with Template:LDSpresidingbishop.

I think that Template:LDSpresidingbishop and Template:LDSpresidingbishopric should be merged. After all the Presiding Bishop is part of the Presiding Bishopric so the page is actually incomplete. It would look like this.

--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 19:43, 4 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Support. I don't think there is any reason to keep these separate, and one template can easily accommodate both. This is how things are typically done with the templates for presidencies of other LDS Church auxiliaries and bodies. Good Ol’factory (talk) 19:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Support merging - no reason for 2 templates for this functionality -- Trödel 05:59, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I have done the coding work needed to make this merge happen. It can be found at User:ARTEST4ECHO/template2. Once this discussion is closed, I am more then willing to do the work (i.e. copy and paste) to merge the two templates. --ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 13:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I have also included the appropriate documentation needed here.--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 14:22, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Good consolidation, thanks Artest4echo for doing the legwork upfront. —Eustress talk 14:13, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, this seems to be a pretty self evident merge, but I don't want to be accused to not doing this the right way.--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 14:22, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It would seam that there is a pretty clear consensus, and it's been over 7 days, so I'm going to move forward with the merge.--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 15:44, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. This can now be closed.--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 15:48, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
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Template:List LDS Temple California Map

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as T3 by AnomieBOT ⚡  13:53, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * List LDS Temple California Map

Template has been unused for some time. All pages that used this template were moved to Template:List LDS Temple USA Southwest Map. In a nutshell it is obsolete. --ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 18:58, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Maxthon

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  20:20, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Maxthon

This navbox win the "Most Pointless Navbox" award. It is nothing but a collection of indiscriminate links, some of them are external. Besides, it is only used (and only usable) on one article, so no need for template at all. Two links in it that you might be interested in keeping are already used repeatedly in Maxthon article. Codename Lisa (talk) 16:43, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Creator here, feel free to delete. I was just imitating templates I'd seen other places, I don't know much about their criteria. Zanglazor (talk) 16:56, 4 September 2013 (UTC)


 * delete, or speedy delete per author approval. Frietjes (talk) 18:02, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Grand Theft Auto chronology
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The result of the discussion was relisted on Templates for discussion/Log/2013 September 17. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:53, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Grand Theft Auto chronology


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Deprecated South African templates
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:25, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Infobox South African subplace
 * Infobox South African town
 * Metadata South Africa subplaces
 * Metadata South Africa/Joburg regions
 * Metadata South Africa/mainplace/area
 * Metadata South Africa/mainplace/district
 * Metadata South Africa/mainplace/langs
 * Metadata South Africa/mainplace/muni
 * Metadata South Africa/mainplace/name
 * Metadata South Africa/mainplace/population
 * Metadata South Africa/mainplace/province
 * Metadata South Africa/mainplace/race
 * Metadata ZA area mainplace-1
 * Metadata ZA area mainplace-2
 * Metadata ZA area mainplace-3
 * Metadata ZA area mainplace-4
 * Metadata ZA area mainplace-5
 * Metadata ZA area mainplace-6
 * Metadata ZA area mainplace-7
 * Metadata ZA area mainplace-8
 * Metadata ZA area mainplace-9
 * Metadata ZA lang mainplace-1
 * Metadata ZA lang mainplace-2
 * Metadata ZA lang mainplace-3
 * Metadata ZA lang mainplace-4
 * Metadata ZA lang mainplace-5
 * Metadata ZA lang mainplace-6
 * Metadata ZA lang mainplace-7
 * Metadata ZA lang mainplace-8
 * Metadata ZA lang mainplace-9
 * Metadata ZA race mainplace-1
 * Metadata ZA race mainplace-2
 * Metadata ZA race mainplace-3
 * Metadata ZA race mainplace-4
 * Metadata ZA race mainplace-5
 * Metadata ZA race mainplace-6
 * Metadata ZA race mainplace-7
 * Metadata ZA race mainplace-8
 * Metadata ZA race mainplace-9
 * Metadata population ZA-1/doc
 * Metadata ZA population mainplace-1
 * Metadata ZA population mainplace-2
 * Metadata ZA population mainplace-3
 * Metadata ZA population mainplace-4
 * Metadata ZA population mainplace-6
 * Metadata ZA population mainplace-7
 * Metadata ZA population mainplace-8
 * Metadata ZA population mainplace-9

Several hundred edits later, all articles about South African towns are using the new Template:Infobox South African town 2011 and relative metadata templates. The templates above are now orphaned and serve no further purpose. I'm also nominating Template:Infobox South African town (currently a redirect) so that we can move the new template to that name. eh bien mon prince (talk) 14:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete all, with thanks to User:Underlying lk for his work in replacing them with the new template. - htonl (talk) 15:39, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * history merge Infobox South African town with Infobox South African town 2011, and delete the rest. Frietjes (talk) 16:15, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * note, Infobox South African town has been history merged with Infobox South African town 2011, so don't delete those. Frietjes (talk) 15:14, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * That's right, the history merge was completed, the rest can be deleted now!--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:21, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Cue sports bios
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The result of the discussion was relisted on Templates for discussion/Log/2013 September 17. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:56, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Cue sports bios


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Template:American football roster/Plater
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:24, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * American football roster/Plater

Unused template with coding errors to begin with. Seems like a trial and error creation left for dead. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:28, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * speedy delete as a test. Frietjes (talk) 18:02, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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Arabic script alphabets
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:00, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Khowar alphabet
 * Pashto alphabet
 * Persian alphabet
 * Urdu alphabet

Little used sidebars, mostly redundant to one another. Can be better handled by an adapted Arabic alphabet with lists like in Infobox Cyrillic letter (if necessary); however, there's already a giant sidebar that's up for merging in Semitic letter articles (e.g. see Taw), and I don't think we should add more. — Lfdder (talk) 11:26, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose (for the present): The letters aren’t simply redundant, actually... There are additional letters, not found in Arabic in all of the languages listed above. E.g. Persian adds 4 more, Urdu adds 9, Pashto adds 11, etc. But the suggestion would be O.K., if the Arabic alphabet is tweaked first to accomodate all of these and the templates are deleted next. If the templates are deleted first and no-one bothers to add them to Arabic, these alphabets would have no templates... — Шαмıq   ☪   тαʟκ✍ @ 14:22, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I said 'mostly', not 'simply'. — Lfdder (talk) 15:51, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * My reservations here. — Шαмıq   ☪   тαʟκ✍ @ 20:28, 4 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete: Merged to Arabic alphabet. No need to keep now. — Шαмıq   ☪   тαʟκ✍ @ 14:31, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep/Merge when the merger happens, they will become redirects or intermediate transclusions. The merger should it happen, should also provide a parameter to choose the rendering type (all letters, Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Pashto) -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 04:48, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Rather dubious use case, but I've already done this at Arabic script sidebar. — Lfdder (talk) 08:39, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
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Template:User Ot-af
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The result of the discussion was wrong venue, feel free to relist it at MFD if you still want it deleted. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:24, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * User Ot-af

Unused and uneeded template. No encyclopedic value that would justify it being kept Kumioko (talk) 01:03, 4 September 2013 (UTC
 * Delete or Userfy to User:Danielk2/User Ot-af . Inappropriate in Template: space. Technical 13 (talk) 09:55, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * speedy close as wrong venue, userboxes are discussed at WP:MFD per "what not to discuss here instructions here". Frietjes (talk) 16:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment These are templates and they need to be treated as such. I already submitted them to CFD because I felt they fell into the Special categorization criteria like stubs. I'm not going to do the music forums game. They are templates, they belong here. Kumioko (talk) 17:47, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I said MFD, not CFD, see Templates for discussion. Frietjes (talk) 18:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Either way, I wasted enough time on these three useless templates. If you guys want to keep them, then fine and you can close this as keep and mark them as such, otherwise we need to delete them and move on. This Templates are only templates if they fall under certain criteria otherwise they might be categories, redirects, miscelaneous, etc. is ridiculous. If its a template, we should be treating it as a template. And as far as I can tell all three of these start with template. Kumioko (talk) 18:14, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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Template:User Pinhead
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The result of the discussion was wrong venue, feel free to relist it at MFD if you still want it deleted. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:22, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * User Pinhead

Unused template. No longer needed. Kumioko (talk) 01:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete or Userfy to User:Joeyramoney/User Pinhead. Inappropriate in Template: space. Technical 13 (talk) 09:55, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * speedy close as wrong venue, userboxes are discussed at WP:MFD per "what not to discuss here instructions here". Frietjes (talk) 16:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment These are templates and they need to be treated as such. I already submitted them to CFD because I felt they fell into the Special categorization criteria like stubs. I'm not going to do the music forums game. They are templates, they belong here. Kumioko (talk) 17:48, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I said MFD, not CFD, see Templates for discussion. Frietjes (talk) 18:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Either way, I wasted enough time on these three useless templates. If you guys want to keep them, then fine and you can close this as keep and mark them as such, otherwise we need to delete them and move on. This Templates are only templates if they fall under certain criteria otherwise they might be categories, redirects, miscelaneous, etc. is ridiculous. If its a template, we should be treating it as a template. And as far as I can tell all three of these start with template. Kumioko (talk) 18:14, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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Template:User NATO
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The result of the discussion was delete. See bottom for my reasoning. Nyttend (talk) 18:56, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * User NATO

Unused template. Not needed and in addition Albania isn't part of NATO Kumioko (talk) 00:51, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete this inplausible, useless template. Technical 13 (talk) 00:56, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Albania isn't in NATO, and this template has no indication it isn't for NATO, and not Albania. -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 07:35, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * speedy close as wrong venue, userboxes are discussed at WP:MFD per "what not to discuss here instructions here". Frietjes (talk) 16:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment These are templates and they need to be treated as such. I already submitted them to CFD because I felt they fell into the Special categorization criteria like stubs. I'm not going to do the music forums game. They are templates, they belong here. Kumioko (talk) 17:47, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I said MFD, not CFD, see Templates for discussion. Frietjes (talk) 18:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Either way, I wasted enough time on these three useless templates. If you guys want to keep them, then fine and you can close this as keep and mark them as such, otherwise we need to delete them and move on. This Templates are only templates if they fall under certain criteria otherwise they might be categories, redirects, miscelaneous, etc. is ridiculous. If its a template, we should be treating it as a template. And as far as I can tell all three of these start with template. Kumioko (talk) 18:14, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Frietjes, can you convert this into an MfD? -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 04:52, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment Kumioko, you may need to refresh your memory on the Member states of NATO. Albania and Croatia joined NATO in 2009. Dimadick (talk) 09:26, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete not needed. Jason from nyc (talk) 14:34, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Closing admin comment I could have closed this procedurally, but I don't see how that would have helped anything; we got decent input here, and it would be more of a problem to get rid of everyone's participation than it would be to get the participation that we would get at MFD. Consensus here is clearly in favor of deletion; it's not as if the discussion needs to be relisted.  Nyttend (talk) 18:56, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
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