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Template:Deezy

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G8 by AnomieBOT ⚡  23:01, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Deezy

Literally navigates nothing. Main article is about to be deleted also.  STATic  message me!  23:11, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete As per nominator. And Adoil Descended (talk) 23:15, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Bilateral relations task force Invitation

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The result of the discussion was move Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:23, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Bilateral relations task force Invitation

This template leads to a WikiProject that has been inactive for an extended period of time. It appears that no one is paying any attention to either the template or the WikiProject it serves. And Adoil Descended (talk) 23:10, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Rename to WikiProject International relations/Bilateral relations task force/invitation, where many such invitation templates reside (as subpages of the project, instead of in templatespace) -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 02:27, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Honey Cocaine

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:23, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Honey Cocaine

Literally navigates nothing, I wish we had a speedy deletion criteria for templates like this.  STATic  message me!  23:07, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete As per nominator. And Adoil Descended (talk) 23:14, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:REDNOT -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 05:42, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Sage The Gemini

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:11, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sage The Gemini

Navigation is easily handled by main article. WP:NENAN applies as there are not many links to articles outside of "related articles" section.  STATic  message me!  23:04, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * delete, not enough there, and too much overlap with other navboxes. Frietjes (talk) 23:18, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:WA SSH

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:11, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * WA SSH

No need for a navbox where most articles do not exist, also WP:NENAN.  Admr Boltz  19:31, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, its "parent" template for Primary State Highways was also deleted. --  Admr Boltz  19:32, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. –Fredddie™ 19:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Alex Campos

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:10, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Alex Campos

With only one album for this artist with an article, this navbox provides no additional aid in navigation. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:30, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * delete, not enough at the moment for a navbox, but no problem with recreating if more articles are written. Frietjes (talk) 18:42, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete with no prejudice against recreation in the future after more articles are written. --  Admr Boltz  19:28, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Andrea Echeverri
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:10, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Andrea Echeverri

This navbox only contains one directly related article to the topic. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 17:26, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * delete, not enough at the moment for a navbox, but no problem with recreating if more articles are written. Frietjes (talk) 18:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Cite pmid/preload
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The result of the discussion was Delete. After 26 days, nobody has opposed deletion. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:04, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Cite pmid/preload

Unused. And have a look what that bot did with this template:. Debresser (talk) 11:43, 15 December 2013 (UTC) <hr style="width:55%;" />
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 * question preloads don't show up in 'what links here', so how do we know it is unused? Frietjes (talk) 19:16, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Apart from the fact that nobody complained after this template was blanked by the bot, I have no real indication of that. Debresser (talk) 01:42, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * When using clicking "expand by hand" opens this page.--  Auric    talk  16:27, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

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Template:Cite hdl/preload
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The result of the discussion was delete. JamesBWatson (talk) 17:48, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Cite hdl/preload

Unused. And have a look what that bot did with this template:. Debresser (talk) 11:41, 15 December 2013 (UTC) <hr style="width:55%;" />
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 * question preloads don't show up in 'what links here', so how do we know it is unused? Frietjes (talk) 19:16, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It loads a documentation page which was used twice in 2011, and another 2 times on December 19, after this nomination. Possibly these last two edits by User:Gareth Jones were made on purpose. The edit summary "populate" might be an indication of that. And there is the fact that nobody complained yet. Debresser (talk) 01:39, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * delete The automatic completion didn't work, I manually edited the template (without investigating if this was a more common problem). In its current state it would seem most appropriate to delete. Gareth Jones (talk) 13:07, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:AR15etc
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The result of the discussion was delete. JamesBWatson (talk) 17:47, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * AR15etc

unused. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 20:37, 30 December 2013 (UTC) <hr style="width:55%;" />
 * delete Frietjes (talk) 19:15, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Hortibox
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The result of the discussion was Delete. JamesBWatson (talk) 17:39, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hortibox

This template has only one mainspace transclusion, seven years after it was created. The only instance on Anemone hupehensis should be converted to a simple table, and the template deleted. eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * As the template's creator (thanks for the notify), I don't see why it's particularly needed if it's only on one page. OTOH, I don't see it doing any harm. -- SB_Johnny &#124; talk✌ 22:00, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

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 * Delete Thank you, Johnny, for the hard work, but I think the info would be better left in the article text. Also flirts with WP:NOTHOW. --Tom Hulse (talk) 06:24, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * delete Frietjes (talk) 19:15, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Euskaltel-Euskadi riders
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:09, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Euskaltel-Euskadi riders

Per here and here. Just like Agritubel and Team RadioShack in those discussions, Euskaltel-Euskadi is now a defunct cycling team, and in that regards, the template is now redundant. Craig (talk)  01:23, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * delete, defunct. Frietjes (talk) 18:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete as per previous discussions; we don't use these for defunct teams. Severo (talk) 19:27, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Lleyton Hewitt
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:09, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Lleyton Hewitt

Only included on Hewitt's page, and adds nothing that is not already in the infobox. Fails WP:BIDIRECTIONAL. NSH002 (talk) 00:49, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * delete, adds nothing. Frietjes (talk) 18:45, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, info already available in infobox, body text and table.--Wolbo (talk) 14:01, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, I see no real value in keeping. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:08, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:South Carolina Interstate Highways
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:09, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * South Carolina Interstate Highways

Per precedent - duplicate of List of Interstate Highways in South Carolina. These styles of navboxes have been depreciated by WP:USRD.  Admr Boltz  00:41, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator....William 12:42, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete—per precedents.  Imzadi 1979  →   13:43, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:North Carolina Interstate Highways
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:08, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * North Carolina Interstate Highways

Per precedent - duplicate of List of Interstate Highways in North Carolina. These styles of navboxes have been depreciated by WP:USRD.  Admr Boltz  00:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator....William 12:42, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete—per precedents.  Imzadi 1979  →   13:43, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Louisiana Interstate Highways
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:08, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Louisiana Interstate Highways

Per precedent - duplicate of List of Interstate Highways in Louisiana. These styles of navboxes have been depreciated by WP:USRD.  Admr Boltz  00:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator....William 12:42, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete—per precedents.  Imzadi 1979  →   13:43, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Alabama Interstate Highways
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:07, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Alabama Interstate Highways

Per precedent - duplicate of List of Interstate and U.S. Highways in Alabama. These styles of navboxes have been depreciated by WP:USRD.  Admr Boltz  00:16, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator....William 12:42, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete—per precedents.  Imzadi 1979  →   13:43, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Mongols
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The result of the discussion was withdrawn Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 14:04, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Mongols

I need to recreate this template using Template:Ethnic group sidebar (copying last edit) because edit on January 5 completely changed view of the template. This edit improved the template but after this editing and moving page on January 6 (template:history of the Mongols→template:Mongols) new edits don't appear on related pages, for example: Kara-Khitan Khanate. Sczc (talk) 08:05, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Procedural close/Keep (1) this is a redirect, redirects are processed at WP:RFD (2) caching issues are fixed with null-edits (3) if you want to rename the "history of" template back to "mongols" use WP:RM. (4) If you want to establish a new "Mongols" template, just WP:EDIT the template. -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 07:57, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Please close discussion. Sczc (talk) 05:23, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * A few questions and comments. There are several things about the nomination which I don't understand, and I would be grateful for clarification. What do you mean by "new edits don't appear on related pages, for example: Kara-Khitan Khanate"? The template on that page looks fine to me. What is the problem? Perhaps, as 70.50.148.122 suggests, there was a caching issue. If so, it may well have been due to your browser caching the page, in which case it would not be solved by any changes on the Wikimedia servers, and you would be better off reading Bypass your cache. If, on the other hand, it was due to the Wikimedia server cache, then there are easy ways of clearing the cache, of which 70.50.148.122's suggestion of a null-edit is as good as any: if you are interested in knowing more about the issue then look at Purge. In any case, caching issues are normally short-term issues, which go awy of their own accord quite soon. Why do you need to "recreate" the template? If you think that your move has caused problems, then isn't just moving it back the obvious thing to do? Are you proposing "recreating" the template under its old title and keeping the original template under the new title that you have given it, or do you mean to have the old one deleted? Keeping both would be pointless duplication, and would be likely to create problems in the future with editors not being aware of the existence of both copies, with some changes to one copy and other changes to the other copy resulting in inconsistent versions of the template appearing in different articles. Keeping your "recreation" of the original template and deleting the existing one, on the other hand, would be completely unacceptable as it would lose the editing history, which must be kept for attribution purposes. Why was there a need for a move at all: i.e. what was wrong with just leaving the template at its original title? If, as seems likely, your concerns are due to caching problems, then it is probably a transient problem that has gone away by now, and if not then it is easy to deal with. The two best options are probably to leave things as they are or else to put the template back where it came from and then leave it. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:12, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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