Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 April 22



Template:Ranks and Insignia of Israel Defense Forces/OF/Israeli Air Force

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:27, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Ranks and Insignia of Israel Defense Forces/OF/Israeli Air Force

Only used in one article, information can be transcluded there. No need for the separate template. The Banner talk 21:58, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * merge/delete Frietjes (talk) 18:56, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete can go in article fine.--JacktheHarry (talk) 20:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Ranks and Insignia of Israel Defense Forces/OF/USAF equivalent

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 19:27, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Ranks and Insignia of Israel Defense Forces/OF/USAF equivalent

Only used in one article, information can be transcluded there. No need for the separate template. The Banner talk 21:57, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * merge/delete Frietjes (talk) 18:56, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete can go in article fine.--JacktheHarry (talk) 20:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
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Template:IoEgrade

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 04:37, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * IoEgrade

A superscript external link used in the body of an article, with no indication of what website you're being taken to - is this really a good idea? Only used in a handfull of articles, most uses would be better replaced with an actual citation, others don't seem necessary and should be removed altogether. PC78 (talk) 19:20, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - Not So Fast National Names 2000 (talk) 02:49, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Now converted remaining uses to inline references and removed from all mainspace articles. An early experiment as a template newbie (2006). Oosoom Talk 09:54, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Aviso borrar
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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted WP:CSD test page. Appears to be an attempt to duplicate here the Spanish speedy-deletion template es:Plantilla:Aviso borrar. JohnCD (talk) 16:06, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Aviso borrar

Non-English titled template that lacks context and purpose. Possibly vandalism or a WP:CIR issue. (See user contributions) - MrX 12:12, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Ficha de organización
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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted WP:CSD test page. Appears to be an attempt to duplicate here the Spanish Infobox company template es:Plantilla:Ficha de organización. JohnCD (talk) 16:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Ficha de organización

Empty template with a non-English title. Lacks context and purpose. - MrX 12:08, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Tekkaman
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The result of the discussion was delete. MER-C 03:03, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Tekkaman

This template now only has two entries which are linked to each other in their respective articles. Hence, it is no longer required for navigation. KirtZJ (talk) 12:07, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * delete, no navbox needed to link two articles. Frietjes (talk) 18:56, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Physical oceanography/sandbox
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The result of the discussion was delete, no objections. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:34, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Physical oceanography/sandbox

Redundant, last edit in 2012. Since then the "real" template has evolved al lot, and there is no possible use for this sandbox version anymore. Crowsnest (talk) 12:06, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Sandboxes are not really subject to discussion; you can arguably tag them with csd-t3.  12:26, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Sustainable energy/sandbox
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:29, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Sustainable energy/sandbox

This sandbox template was created a long time ago, and there seems to be no likely use for it. Crowsnest (talk) 11:59, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
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Template:WP Pakistan AaA
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:28, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * WP Pakistan AaA

Yet another one of those maintained knockoffs. This one is basically the exact same as Maintained which was deleted after a lengthy TfD. EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 03:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * See also: Templates for discussion/Log/2015 April 7 for the exact same template under discussion under a different name. EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 03:14, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per OWN, and major template has been already removed. Hajme 09:19, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * delete per prior consensus. Frietjes (talk) 18:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Transperth train station
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:26, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Infobox Transperth train station

Redundant to Infobox station, with the exception of facilities. Facilities parameters have been removed from the latter per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Alakzi (talk) 02:57, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:14, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Infobox station provides all the required fields. Total25 (talk) 23:40, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete well covered already.--JacktheHarry (talk) 20:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * If you're gonna be closing this, see my substitution wrapper here - the only thing that's not accounted for is the two categories inserted by the TP infobox (Category:Disused railway stations in Western Australia and Category:Railway stations in Perth, Western Australia). Thanks. Alakzi (talk) 15:59, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
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Template:TP Train Depot
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:26, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * TP Train Depot

Redundant to Infobox railway depot; facilities corresponds to type. Alakzi (talk) 02:53, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:14, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Infobox railway depot provides all the required fields. Total25 (talk) 23:41, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete well covered already.--JacktheHarry (talk) 20:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Transperth Line
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:22, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Transperth Line

Not used in mainspace. Alakzi (talk) 02:36, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Nor it seems eligible enough. Hajme 10:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:14, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Infobox station infobox has the necessary fields Total25 (talk) 23:44, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
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Template:TransperthTrains
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:21, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * TransperthTrains

Unused; too few links. Alakzi (talk) 02:32, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete only two links and small scope. Hajme 09:20, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NENAN. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:15, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete of no value. Total25 (talk) 23:44, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
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Template:TP Bus Station
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:26, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * TP Bus Station

Mostly redundant to Infobox station, which has got all of the key parameters. Alakzi (talk) 02:26, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:15, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Infobox station covers. Total25 (talk) 23:46, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete well covered already.--JacktheHarry (talk) 20:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Istanbul Metro M1 route diagram
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by AnomieBOT ⚡  23:01, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Istanbul Metro M1 route diagram
 * Istanbul Metro M2 route diagram

Orphaned templates, with errors. Newer M1 (Istanbul) and M2 (Istanbul) are their replacements. Useddenim (talk) 00:19, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Above route diagrams were created by me in 2013, and the ones (Template:M1 (Istanbul)) and (:Template:M1 (Istanbul)), which replaced them were of later date. Above diagrams are more comprehensive than the replacinfg ones. As I understand you are familiar with railway subjects, I would expect that you chack and reinstate the diagrams in consideration for deletion now. Or there is something, which I don't know yet. I appreciate your comments. --CeeGee 08:05, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you mean by “more comprehensive”, as the ones currently in use have station distances (which yours do not), and you used generic icons rather than Istanbul-specific ones. (There is also your non-standard use of icons. The proper use is,  and .) Useddenim (talk) 20:35, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * With "more comprehensive", I meant the transfer options at certain stations, and correct line and station layout. I'm not sure the distances are a must. Anyway, they can easily be added up if there is an obligation. Is there a regulation somewhere about the use of icons. I cannot understand what you mean with "Istanbul-specific icon"s. Is there a place, where I can look up for those "Istanbul-spesific ones"? Thanks.--CeeGee 07:32, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:Route diagram template is the introduction to creating uniform route-map layouts. A list of (almost) all the icons which are currently available is at WP:Route diagram template/Catalog of pictograms (and sub-pages). Template:Rail-interchange display symbols specific to a country or city. There are currently over 50; Turkey’s entry is at Template:Rail-interchange/doc/TK. As far as I can tell, the old and new templates are topologically identical, except that yours don’t indicate what the transfer options are (and on Istanbul Metro M2 route diagram the actual rail connection between branches isn’t shown at Sanayi Mahallesi, nor is Haliç actually over the Golden Horn). Useddenim (talk) 10:20, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment: Whichever versions are kept, the long-form names should be used (and the other names made redirects). Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:17, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * How do you figure that? Generally, RDTs follow the naming form of &#91;&#91;Template:{name of associated article}]] or &#91;&#91;Template:{name of associated article} RDT]]. 128.205.48.118 (talk) 15:58, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * M1 (Istanbul) what? What is an "RDT"? Template names, much like article titles, should balance precision and conciseness. A longtime practice can very well be a bad practice. Alakzi (talk) 16:04, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you should pursue that further at Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template, as your comment has no bearing on whether the two templates should be deleted or not. 128.205.48.116 (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Alakzi's comment was a direct answer to your question; an answer which I endorse. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:37, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Redundant now (and in a different format that the route diagrams for the other Metro lines), so delete. I offer no opinion on the "name" issue of the "new" route diagrams, though I could certainly see the argument for moving them to "M1 (Istanbul Metro)" or "M1 (Istanbul Metro) route diagram", etc. from where they are now... --IJBall (talk) 20:53, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. These two are really unorthodox and just puzzle me... The two newer ones are certainly superior. Since they do not seem to have been derived from the older ones, there's no need to merge histories, nor to move the newer templates to the older names. They may be renamed to some other names, no doubt; but that's another question. "Istanbul Metro M1 RDT" or "M1 (Istanbul Metro) RDT" seem OK to me. Note for the closing admin: please don't forget to update/merge wikidata connections. YLSS (talk) 11:07, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Istanbul Metro M1 route diagram in favour of M1 (Istanbul), and Istanbul Metro M2 route diagram in favour of M2 (Istanbul). Any percieved opacity of template names should be addressed in the context of a general renaming discussion, not of a specific deleting discussion. (I suppose that "comprehensive" above is bad English for "understandable", influenced by other labguages and based on its etymologic meaning. And which is not, by the way.) Tuvalkin (talk) 12:57, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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