Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 January 14



Template:Houston Astros retired numbers

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The result of the discussion was keep and remove redundancy by removing the links present in these templates from the team navboxes Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 10:43, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Houston Astros retired numbers

Also propose deleting-
 * Atlanta Braves retired numbers
 * Baltimore Orioles retired numbers
 * Boston Red Sox retired numbers
 * Chicago Cubs retired numbers
 * Chicago White Sox retired numbers
 * Cleveland Indians retired numbers
 * Cincinnati Reds retired numbers
 * Detroit Tigers retired numbers
 * Kansas City Royals retired numbers
 * Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim retired numbers
 * Los Angeles Dodgers retired numbers
 * Milwaukee Brewers retired numbers
 * Minnesota Twins retired numbers
 * Montreal Expos retired numbers
 * New York Mets retired numbers
 * New York Yankees retired numbers
 * Oakland Athletics retired numbers
 * Philadelphia Phillies retired numbers
 * Pittsburgh Pirates retired numbers
 * San Diego Padres retired numbers
 * San Francisco Giants retired numbers
 * St. Louis Cardinals retired numbers
 * Texas Rangers retired numbers

Toronto Blue Jays retired numbers

It just duplicates the team templates. The same entries for retired numbers are in both and the team and retired number templates are both placed in the articles of players with retired numbers. ...William 23:29, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep and remove the retired numbers from the team templates. The team templates are very large and it's always kind of struggle to find the bold. With these all you have to do is look at the title to know why the template is on that players page. I prefer these to be separate like the managers and GM ones.--Yankees10 00:03, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per Yankees10. I do agree that its duplicative as it is, but I prefer to remove the row from the already crowded team navboxes, and keep these separate. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:28, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Conditional Keep - WikiProject Baseball has a choice: (1) keep these separate retired number navboxes, and remove the retired numbers from the more general team navboxes, or (2) delete these retired number navboxes, and keep the retired number lists within the team navboxes. In any event, there should not be two navboxes on the same player page covering the same honor or award -- that's redundant and contributes to the explosion of bottom-of-the-page clutter endemic to many of the sports WikiProjects.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:24, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Conditional keep per Dirtlawyer1 —PC-XT+ 23:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Conditional keep per Dirtlawyer1. Totally agree a clear template like one of these is better on a player article than seeing the team template and wondering why it's there. Rikster2 (talk) 18:10, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep and remove the retired numbers from the team templates, per Yankees10. Ejgreen77 (talk) 03:35, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
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Template:End&startflatlist

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The result of the discussion was delete per nom. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 00:33, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * End&startflatlist

This template can be replaced by, and in many situations it can just be removed entirely with no change in display. Plus having a template that starts with a closing div and ends with an opening div seems backwards, and is likely to result in confusing template code. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 07:29, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Two template calls rather than one..? Anyhow, delete away if you wish; it's just an effort, for the sake of the presentation of the encyclopa/edia's content, to workaround a limitation in flatlist's functionality. Sardanaphalus (talk) 10:59, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * delete, encourages violation of WP:LISTGAP. Frietjes (talk) 15:55, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * delete per nom & Frietjes --NSH002 (talk) 17:55, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. APerson (talk!) 19:17, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete this is horrid. It should be two separate template tranclusions (one to end, a second to start), not a single weird transclusion that first ends and then stars again. -- 65.94.40.137 (talk) 07:27, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Fourth ventricle

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The result of the discussion was merge, unopposed. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:09, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Fourth ventricle
 * Ventricular system of brain

Propose merging Template:Fourth ventricle with Template:Ventricular system of brain.

Both would be better represented in a single template of the entire ventricular system of the brain, rather than in piecemeal templates of structures Tom (LT) (talk) 02:25, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
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