Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 March 18



Template:NLLTeamSeason

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The result of the discussion was merge, looks like these have already been merged, with no objections, so closing as merge. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 20:32, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * NLLTeamSeason
 * Infobox lacrosse team season

Propose merging Template:NLLTeamSeason with Template:Infobox lacrosse team season.

I rewrote template:infobox lacrosse team season to use template:infobox, and in the process, noticed that it's basically a generalisation of template:NLLTeamSeason. to confirm this is the case, I then rewrote template:NLLTeamSeason to call template:infobox lacrosse team season. basically, the only parameters being autofilled by template:NLLTeamSeason are the league, league link, and cup. my proposal is to (1) substitute the wrapper that is currently used in template:NLLTeamSeason, then (2) merge the early history of template:NLLTeamSeason into template:infobox lacrosse team season. Frietjes (talk) 20:53, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment regarding notice - WikiProject Lacrosse was notified of this pending TfD merge discussion: . Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:20, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Internet Archive film

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep per WP:SNOWBALL and due to erroneous assumption in nomination. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:28, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Internet Archive film

WP:SPAM. instead of external linking in the ordinary way, the main object seems to be to promote the brand name Longines. Could be solved by removing language identifying the source. The source is not so much in question as the content which receives scant attention. Student7 (talk) 20:39, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep: nomination based on a mistaken assumption. Student7: I think you are confused. A link to the Internet Archive is not spam for Longines by any stretch. This nomination for deletion seems to be related to [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Herman_Talmadge&diff=prev&oldid=651976489 this edit of yours] (which you reverted [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Herman_Talmadge&diff=next&oldid=651976489 ten minutes later], apparently by mistake). The clip in question is taken from a television show called the Longines Chronoscope. Stating this fact is not spam. הסרפד  (call me Hasirpad) 22:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment regarding notice - WikiProject Film has been notified of this TfD discussion: . Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 23:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep: This is not spam and gives readers access to films in the public domain. Thanks for your reseach . MarnetteD&#124;Talk 01:03, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep: The Internet Archive is very useful as an external link.Hitcher vs. Candyman (talk) 02:55, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep I see nothing that promotes "Longines" in the coding of the template. Did you read the template? -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:55, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, obviously, this template is about keeping entries brief, using a standard format rather than cluttering articles up with long lists. The archive is not commercial and spam has nothing to do with it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:01, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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Template:2012 MLL season by team

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 20:39, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 2001 MLL season by team
 * 2002 MLL season by team
 * 2003 MLL season by team
 * 2004 MLL season by team
 * 2005 MLL season by team
 * 2006 MLL season by team
 * 2007 MLL season by team
 * 2008 MLL season by team
 * 2009 MLL season by team
 * 2010 MLL season by team
 * 2011 MLL season by team
 * 2012 MLL season by team

mostly redlinks. articles can be connected by other methods. Frietjes (talk) 20:07, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all per Frietjes' nomination rationale. No navbox should ever have a majority of links to non-existent articles.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:51, 18 March 2015 (UTC) !vote amended to "delete all" following addition of multiple templates for deletion.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:39, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Query is there a reason why you just nominated the 2012 season and not all of the MLL season navboxes in Category:Major League Lacrosse season templates from 2001-2012? It seems to me that they all have the same problem... Tavix |  Talk  16:24, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Unless Frietjes objects, I suggest we add all of them to this discussion. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:00, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * added. Frietjes (talk) 18:13, 19 March 2015 (UTC)


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"Nearby" star navboxes

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The result of the discussion was reformat as list articles. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 21:42, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Star systems within 20–25 light-years
 * Star systems within 25–30 light-years
 * Star systems within 30–35 light-years
 * Star systems within 35–40 light-years
 * Star systems within 40–45 light-years
 * Star systems within 45–50 light-years
 * Star systems within 50–55 light-years
 * Star systems within 55–60 light-years
 * Star systems within 60–65 light-years
 * Star systems within 65–70 light-years
 * Star systems within 70–75 light-years

Past 20 light-years distant from us, the distance from the sun is not an especially-noteworthy property of a star, thus these subjects are only loosely related to each other. These fail multiple criteria of navboxes as well. Per WP:NAVBOX, there should be an article on the subject of the navboxes, which there isn't in this case. The subject of the template is also not mentioned in each article. For these templates, the vast majority of articles contained within the navbox are also non-notable, which is an absolute no-no for navboxes. These also require near-constant maintenance to keep up-to-date due to the rapid-pace discoveries of new objects. StringTheory11 (t • c) 15:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment regarding notice - WikiProject Astronomy has been notified of this TfD discussion: . Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 23:33, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, there are thousands of star systems in those distance regimes, having nav templates is useless, since they are enormous, thus not helping navigation. And distance away from Earth is only defining for those very closest to us, such as less than 20ly per the nom (or 5pc or similar distance) -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:19, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, while the splits aren't arbitrary, the stars included seem to be so. Primefac (talk) 09:48, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom and reasons above.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅contribs ⋅dgaf)
 * Delete: Agree with nom. The majority of the navigation links on these templates serve no useful purpose. The criteria for such navboxes needs to be significantly narrowed down. Praemonitus (talk) 22:28, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Does it make any sense to convert these to lists? —Cryptic 23:45, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * We already have lists of stars based on Constellations that provide more information about each of the stellar members. (For example, see List of stars in Andromeda.) There are also List of nearest stars and brown dwarfs and List of nearest bright stars, which show the more notable nearby stars. So no, converting these templates to lists would not add anything of value. The list would also grow to be very long; at a density of 0.004 stars per cubic light year, that would mean ~7,000 stars within 75 light years. Praemonitus (talk) 22:18, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep (for now): Agree with Cryptic here: If these could be converted into lists (i.e. a list of stars by distance to earth), they would be much more useful, and having the majority of redlinks that exist here wouldn't be as much of an issue; with a navbox, they are seen as a major problem, whereas with lists, links to any articles are secondary to displaying ordered information. Until a list or lists can be made from these, I propose that they be maintained in some way or another so that they can be fully replaced in the (hopefully) near future. Jacob S-589 (talk) 17:54, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep (for now): They do the job and provide a list at the bottom of the page, however a list system that Cryptic has proposed is probably the best. Davidbuddy9 (talk) 02:34, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Listify, as these don't really fit the navbox model —PC-XT+ 20:53, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Listify per above. Double sharp (talk) 13:59, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * For the navboxes past a certain distance should be limited to more noteworthy celestial objects instead of all.Omega13a (talk) 05:12, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Pharmaceutical microbiology

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 20:43, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Pharmaceutical microbiology

Not used on any pages. Excessively small and not needed. Therefore I propose deletion Tom (LT) (talk) 08:02, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Unused. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:36, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Routes of administration by organ system

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The result of the discussion was merge. --BDD (talk) 18:42, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Routes of administration by organ system
 * Dosage forms

Propose merging Template:Routes of administration by organ system with Template:Dosage forms.

Duplicate scope, so I propose merging these Tom (LT) (talk) 06:57, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge. Mikael Häggström (talk) 07:54, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Mikael Haggstrom is the creator of the first template. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * What's your point? He has a right to vote. – voidxor (talk &#124; contrib) 20:50, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge, as Routes of administration by organ system is largely redundant of Dosage forms—just organized differently. Both navboxes appear on many of the same articles, so any redundancy often appears side by side. – voidxor (talk &#124; contrib) 20:50, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
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