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Template:Akron-Kent State Result

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  04:04, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Akron-Kent State Result

we don't need it per this discussion. Frietjes (talk) 21:52, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Support' I made it mostly for a test and never used it in an article. Right now it's just in my sandbox. The article Wagon Wheel (trophy) still uses a standard results chart for the games and I have no plans to change that. --JonRidinger (talk) 22:45, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - JonRidinger immediately above is the template creator, who consents to deletion. Speedy delete per WP:G7.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:24, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
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Template:List of New York City Subway services/future

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The result of the discussion was redirect. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 12:25, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * List of New York City Subway services/future

Unused. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 14:18, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect to NYCS const; was meant for transclusion to List of New York City Subway services. Epic Genius (talk) ± 15:43, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
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Template:List of New York City Subway services/current

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The result of the discussion was redirect. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 12:25, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * List of New York City Subway services/current

Unused. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 14:18, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect to NYCS const; was meant for transclusion to List of New York City Subway services. Epic Genius (talk) ± 15:43, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
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Template:List of New York City Subway lines

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The result of the discussion was redirect. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 12:25, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * List of New York City Subway lines

Unused. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 14:18, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect to NYCS const; was meant for transclusion to List of New York City Subway lines. Epic Genius (talk) ± 15:43, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Manchester Metrolink line

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The result of the discussion was delete. North America1000 09:48, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Infobox Manchester Metrolink line

Unused. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 14:04, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete in this case, I agree. -- Red rose64 (talk) 14:31, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as unused. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:20, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Alakzi (talk) 20:02, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete no one is going to use it, so I suppose it should be deleted. Pjm0512 (talk) 08:45, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Southern Railway (UK)

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The result of the discussion was merge with article. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:05, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Infobox Southern Railway (UK)

This template only has one transclusion; should be substituted. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 14:01, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete after substitution. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:20, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Subst/redirect or histmerge/delete to keep original attribution. Alakzi (talk) 20:04, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * move to article space, then merge and redirect. Frietjes (talk) 14:19, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Ireland bus station

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:05, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Infobox Ireland bus station

Only two transclusions; redundant to Infobox station. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 13:58, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:19, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Alakzi (talk) 20:02, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * delete, redundant and now orphaned. Frietjes (talk) 14:19, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Chinese
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The result of the discussion was withdrawn by nominator per JohnBlackburne. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 11:32, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Infobox Chinese

This complicated template, a wrapper of its subpages, is problematic for several reasons.


 * Many of the articles it is used on have two infoboxes, when its subtemplates (such as Infobox Chinese/Chinese), which are preconfigured to be child infoboxes, could be used as modules inside the other infobox on the page instead.
 * It is not very useful on the rest of the articles it is used on either (where it is the only infobox), as it does not contain anything other than translations and transcriptions. These could be replaced with different infoboxes (using the subtemplates as modules), or even just replaced with zh in the article text.
 * The structure of this template is very rigid, and its subtemplates have to be shown in a specific and arbitrary order, which makes the template less than ideal for countries where Chinese (which is always first in the template) is not the primary language, and the local language is displayed at the bottom. Using just the subtemplates allows the order to be customized.
 * The template is overly complicated and has to be updated whenever something is added to any of its 20 or so subtemplates; it is quite large at 19KB for a template that does almost nothing other than transclude helper templates.

If anything, this template's subpages could just be used as described in § Alternative usage of the template's documentation, similarly to Infobox aircraft begin. There is little benefit to using this template instead of directly using the subtemplates; the documentation could be greatly simplified if the subtemplates were used instead.

Infobox Chinese/Header and Infobox Chinese/Footer should also be deleted if this template's subpages are to be used only as modules in other infoboxes. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 10:46, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * comment You do not seem to want it deleted, and that would be a very bad idea anyway for a template so widely used, in over 6000 articles. Replacing it with a,  pair would be possible and probably straightforward but I don't think it's a good idea either. First it would be a massive amount of work to update articles, as a far from simple replacement. It might even need doing manually as a bot might have a hard time doing it. Second it would not be easier to use but harder, requiring many editors to relearn how to use it, going from one to many templates.
 * A better approach would be to reimplement it in Lua. This could be done to require no changes to articles or to how it works. It could eliminate the sub-templates and introduce greater flexibility. It is obviously though a lot of work. Both this and begin/end are not really TfD matters but changes that should be discussed on the template's talk page, in which case this should probably be closed and discussion continue there.-- JohnBlackburne words<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">deeds 11:16, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
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