Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 November 26



Template:Parent monthly clean-up category progress

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The result of the discussion was relist at Dec 4. Primefac (talk) 05:50, 4 December 2015 (UTC) The purpose of this template seems to be to avoid a redlink on Template:Parent monthly clean-up category, but it causes a script error there instead, which is much worse. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:19, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Parent monthly clean-up category progress
 * Perhaps people shouldn't write Lua scripts that break things that were working? I'll look at this presently.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:31, 26 November 2015 (UTC).


 * It never actually worked. The only thing that Lua changed is that it puts things that don't work in an error category, whereas errors in wikitext generally don't get categorized. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:47, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry if I was snippy. Template:Parent_monthly_clean-up_category/sandbox .. yes it did work...
 * Keep fixed using an example. Template can now display what it looks like, without any unnecessary overhead.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:03, 26 November 2015 (UTC).


 * Comment - this template is only used on eight pages. Bfpage &#124;leave a message 20:25, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
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Template:University of Northern Colorado

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The result of the discussion was relist to Dec 4. Primefac (talk) 05:47, 4 December 2015 (UTC) Template with 4 links, one of which is the athletic conference the school is in. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:11, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * University of Northern Colorado
 * Comment It took me some time to sort out where your nomination ended and where your signature began. What are you proposing should be done about this template and what is the rationale for your proposed action? Thincat (talk) 21:45, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Nebraska–Kearney Lopers football coach navbox

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Primefac (talk) 05:44, 4 December 2015 (UTC) WP:EXISTING -- It is used in only one article, Josh Lamberson, making it hard to navigate. Also fails WP:NAVBOX No. 4: "There should be a Wikipedia article on the subject of the template". Although there isn't an article for the list of coaches, there is one for the Nebraska–Kearney Lopers football. 🎄 Corkythe hornetfan  🎄 13:59, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Nebraska–Kearney Lopers football coach navbox
 * Delete Just one link is insufficient....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:51, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Diedinanukewar

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  03:03, 27 November 2015 (UTC) Unused template created by a so far vandalism-only editor. Unlikely to be useful any time soon. Fram (talk) 08:04, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Diedinanukewar
 * I do agree with you. It's a test page anyways. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Great Cow (talk • contribs)
 * Creator has requested speedy deletion and I have obliged. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 01:42, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Convert/text3

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The result of the discussion was relist to Dec 4. Primefac (talk) 06:38, 4 December 2015 (UTC) This template is used on only one page (apparently to prove a point). It is cumbersome. It is badly named (hiding in the subspace of another template). It violates MOSNUM. It appears to be a part of a single users pet project which nobody else is on board with (sorry, Wikid, but that's how it really does look). It's the big sister of another template for discussion the rationale for the deletion of which applies to this to the same degree. Jimp 07:10, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Convert/text3
 * Delete - A one page template isn't doing anyone much good. What could it possible help readers find?   Bfpage &#124;leave a message 20:27, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Let me clarify: Over the years, some users have complained how the conversions after each amount in the text have been distracting in the format, "miles (km) miles (km) miles (km)", and so {convert/text3} combines all 3 conversions at the end of the 3 amounts in free-form text. For example:    &bull; {&#123;convert/text3 |12|from Hampton,|20 |from Norfolk, and|62|mi|km|from Richmond west|out=,|out2=&|out3=west}}     &rarr; 12 miles from Hampton, 20 mi from Norfolk, and 62 mi from Richmond west (19, 32 & 100 km west). In general, there are many cases where a free-form text involves the conversion of 3 amounts, which could be automatically gathered together at the end of the text. This template {convert/text3} has been ideal to simplify pages with many conversions interleaved within the text. -Wikid77 (talk) 23:48, 30 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I would really propose to withdraw this TfD request and wait for the outcome of the other one. We don't want to discuss the same thing twice in parallel, and can't easily handle possibly diverging outcomes. Regards, PanchoS (talk) 07:29, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Good point. I'd be fine with that. Jimp 13:03, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy procedural close then since nominator agrees. -DePiep (talk) 14:11, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The nominator may not unilaterally withdraw the TfD nomination once other editors have voted to delete. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * A sensible admin can act, procedural. -DePiep (talk) 14:32, 1 December 2015 (UTC)


 * delete per the tfd for text2. Frietjes (talk) 17:01, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep by author. The Template:Convert/text3 has been used in several pages, but has been removed from many pages without consensus; {Convert/text3} was created over 2 years ago (October 2013), to solve the strong user complaint of too many conversions intermingled within article text, so it combines the 3 conversions at the end of the text to reduce the disruption within the free-form text. {Convert/text3} functions as a wp:wrapper template for {convert} and allows quick insertion of free-form text as multiple phrases, beyond the limits of {convert} as designed for ranges of numbers but not free-form text between numbers as in {convert/text3}. Over the past 2 years, the original doc-page was deleted/renamed without consensus, and so it was recreated to begin rewriting the help-text about the various parameters this month (November 2015). Removal, hacking and deletion of long-term templates and their documentation, over years, is a massive disruption causing many years of endless suffering, to thwart long-term progress of the experienced template editors. -Wikid77 (talk) 23:19, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not generally necessary to gain consensus to remove a template especially when it violates MOSNUM. Jimp 03:24, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment. I won't comment of course. Nor !vote. The issue is that no admin (m/f) has the understanding or balls to close the issue admin-ly. -DePiep (talk) 01:05, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Fdw editintro

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The result of the discussion was relist to Dec 9. Primefac (talk) 18:11, 9 December 2015 (UTC) The template is not used and has no likelihood of being used. A simple text explanation type entry that would belong on a help page or in a guideline, not in template format. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 23:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Fdw editintro
 * Comment how does one determine if it isn't used? I assume this is an WP:Editnotice, or a WP:Preload, which is called by MediaWiki software settings, and is not transcluded. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:06, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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Template:Geologic Ages Inline

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The result of the discussion was relist to Dec 9. Primefac (talk) 18:11, 9 December 2015 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Geologic Ages Inline with Template:Period start.
 * Geologic Ages Inline
 * Period start

Redundant to a better designed template. The name makes the purpose unclear, whereas Period start tells you exactly what you're going to get. It is also paired with Period end, so you can provide the time span of a geological time unit without needing to look up the next unit. RockMagnetist(talk) 17:17, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ I think merging is fine. Alhtough I think that "period start" does not return the age-measurement-error yet. --Tobias1984 (talk) 10:13, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Since this TFD notice was added, it broke a few others, so this template is in use by Template:Geological_range.  So much care is required. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:39, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * An important feature of Geologic Ages Inline is that it makes clear what its source is and you can use to insert the source. If the templates are going to be merged, this feature should not be lost. Note that the ages are revised frequently. Petr Matas 09:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Nepalese male actors

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Primefac (talk) 05:07, 7 December 2015 (UTC) better to just use the list article and the category. we don't need a navbox as well. Frietjes (talk) 15:26, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Nepalese male actors
 * Nepalese actresses
 * Delete or list per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:59, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

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Template:ProposalImplemented

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The result of the discussion was merge. Implemented already has functionality for personal messages, so really nothing's being done except creating a redirect. Primefac (talk) 05:30, 7 December 2015 (UTC) Propose merging Template:ProposalImplemented with Template:Implemented.
 * ProposalImplemented
 * Implemented

This seems to be the same case as the TFM discussion for the Thrown out and Smallrejected templates, only that both templates have a low number of transclusions rather than a high number of transclusions. Redundant to each other, what else have I got to say? <b style= "color:red">T</b><b style= "color:#FF4200">L</b><b style= "color:#FF7400">2</b><b style= "color:#FFA700">2</b> (<i style= "color:green">talk</i>) 02:09, 26 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge, per nom. I see no purpose to have these two templates separated. We can add a parameter to Template:Implemented so the other is no longer needed. Stranger195 (talk • contribs • guestbook) 12:48, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
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